retrieving headers

2000-07-27 Thread Fred van Veen

Hello 

I just noticed that when I collect mail from the server, the Bat! is
first retrieving the headers. Is this an option I can turn  off
or is it nomal behaviour?
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Re: retrieving headers

2000-07-27 Thread Tom Plunket


FvV I just noticed that when I collect mail from the server, the Bat! is
FvV first retrieving the headers. Is this an option I can turn  off
FvV or is it nomal behaviour?

Likely you have kill filters (oof there's a new name for them now and
I can't remember what it is), so you have to get rid of all of those
to avoid that check.  I found them especially irritating because TB
wouldn't delete the downloaded messages until the next time I
connected so I always had a huge pile of read messages on the server.

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Re: retrieving headers

2000-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Fred,

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:01:07 +0200 GMT (28/07/00, 01:01 +0800 GMT),
Fred van Veen wrote:

FvV I just noticed that when I collect mail from the server, the Bat! is
FvV first retrieving the headers. Is this an option I can turn  off
FvV or is it nomal behaviour?

If you have any "Selective Download filters" it is normal
(Account/Sorting office). Mine showed one such filter, "New rule" with
no settings at all, when I downloaded this version of TB. Delete the
"New rule" and the mails will be downloaded straight away.

If you do need to use selective downaload filters, then yes, all
headers must be downloaded first.

HTH.

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Re: retrieving headers

2000-07-27 Thread Curtis

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:01:07 +0200, Fred van Veen wrote:

FvV I know how to set up the basic template to send and reply to mail.
FvV But how do I set it up to easily select a template to use that would
FvV use a different account?  (I need basic info or else need to know
FvV where to find the basic info).

My understanding from your posts so far is that you wish to be
able to send messages to the same address or reply to messages from the
same folder using different accounts without having to change the
account transport settings each time or moving to another account. Also
you seem to use different accounts depending on the time of day and
where you are. Therefore, it isn't a situation where you wish to always
send messages to this list using a particular account only, at all
times.

In a situation like that it would be best to just use the
'Options | Active Account' menu option in the editor. If there are
recipients to whom you wish to send messages using a single account, at
all times, but their messages reside in a folder for another account,
then an address book level template will do the job automatically. For
each recipient in the address book, the entry properties has templates
that will only work for that particular address entry. Just use the
'%Account=' macro in templates, placing it at the end of the new
message, reply and forward templates.

Quick templates are another solution as well. The help on quick
templates is pretty adequate for starters.

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Re[2]: retrieving headers

2000-07-27 Thread Fred van Veen

Hello All,
On 27-7-2000 20:01:45, Curtis wrote:

C On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:01:07 +0200, Fred van Veen wrote:

FvV I know how to set up the basic template to send and reply to mail.
FvV But how do I set it up to easily select a template to use that would
FvV use a different account?  (I need basic info or else need to know
FvV where to find the basic info).

Did I really sent this message???
I don't think so!

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Re[2]: retrieving headers

2000-07-27 Thread Fred van Veen

Hello All,
On 27-7-2000 19:35:50, Thomas wrote:

T Hallo Fred,

T On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:01:07 +0200 GMT (28/07/00, 01:01 +0800 GMT),
T Fred van Veen wrote:

FvV I just noticed that when I collect mail from the server, the Bat! is
FvV first retrieving the headers. Is this an option I can turn  off
FvV or is it nomal behaviour?

T If you have any "Selective Download filters" it is normal
T (Account/Sorting office). Mine showed one such filter, "New rule" with
T no settings at all, when I downloaded this version of TB. Delete the
T "New rule" and the mails will be downloaded straight away.

T If you do need to use selective downaload filters, then yes, all
T headers must be downloaded first.

T HTH.

That was the problem! Thank you for you help.
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Re: retrieving headers

2000-07-27 Thread Curtis

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:42:11 +0200, Fred van Veen wrote:

FvV I know how to set up the basic template to send and reply to
FvV mail. But how do I set it up to easily select a template to use
FvV that would use a different account?  (I need basic info or else
FvV need to know where to find the basic info).

FvV Did I really sent this message???
FvV I don't think so!

Ooops. That message was meant for Katsmeow. How TB! ended up
doing that reply, I don't know. Notice how the quote has your initials
Fred? shrug :-(


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Re: retrieving headers

2000-07-27 Thread Tom Plunket


FvV I know how to set up the basic template to send and reply to
FvV mail. But how do I set it up to easily select a template to use
FvV that would use a different account?  (I need basic info or else
FvV need to know where to find the basic info).

FvV Did I really sent this message???
FvV I don't think so!

C Ooops. That message was meant for Katsmeow. How TB! ended up
C doing that reply, I don't know. Notice how the quote has your initials
C Fred? shrug :-(

...and the references are "screwed up."  hmm...


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Re: retrieving headers

2000-07-27 Thread Curtis

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:45:31 -0700, Tom Plunket wrote:

C Ooops. That message was meant for Katsmeow. How TB! ended up
C doing that reply, I don't know. Notice how the quote has your initials
C Fred? shrug :-(

TP ...and the references are "screwed up."  hmm...

I think this is happening when two messages in the list are
inadvertently selected and I hit the reply button with the shift
operator, quoting only the selected text. Normally what should happen is
that the each message should have it's own text quotes from the senders
text but things get screwy when it's only selected text that's being
quoted. Seems like a bug to me. What should happen is that the selected
text should be quoted for the sender who's text has been selected. For
the other message, all text should be quoted since none was selected.

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Re: retrieving headers

2000-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi David,

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:15:39 +0100GMT (28/07/2000, 04:15 +0800GMT),
David Powell wrote:

DP I don't use selective download filters much, but presumably The Bat
DP uses the LIST command to get the sizes of messages, wouldn't it be
DP better if The Bat only downloaded the headers first if the message was
DP fairly large, otherwise downloading the entire message for small
DP messages.

It does not matter whether you use them much or little; once you have
set up one, the headers will be downloaded first.

In order to check whether a message is small or big, TB needs to
download the headers.

DP Otherwise the overhead involved of downloading the headers, then
DP downloading the message again complete with headers defeats the point
DP of selective download in the first place.  Or am I missing something.

You are. How can TB select if it doesn't download the headers first?

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