Downloading Jaws 13 Demo
Hi all Is anybody else able to check the Freedom Scientific website for me please? The Jaws demo links just don't seem to work. I need the 64-bit demo yesterday because the countdown is on, I only have this dongle for 3 weeks and in that time I need to become fully proficient with Jaws. Gordon === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml ---
Re: Jaws for Windows
I imagine that they have been trying to find somebody with your area of expertise and have been failing to do so. Of course attitude and initiative are like gold, but they also have a need to fill and you may, to use an American saying, be the man. Sorry I don't have anything else brilliant to impart, but this is kind of a test message as well as being a comment. Martin Chris Moore writes: Gordon, I just wanted to say good luck with today. You have a great deal of knowledge and expertise to offer. Let me know how you get on. === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml ---
Re: Downloading Jaws 13 Demo
Gordon, Are you downloading via Mac or Windows? I just tried this link: http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/http/http-downloads.asp You have to remember if you are using Safari on your Mac, it does not alert you when a file starts downloading. Also check you have got Gate Keeper set to allow you to download external files and to check the status of a download, press command + option + l in safari to open your download window. If you are doing it via Windows, are you using NVDA or SA to Go? Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 11:20, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all Is anybody else able to check the Freedom Scientific website for me please? The Jaws demo links just don't seem to work. I need the 64-bit demo yesterday because the countdown is on, I only have this dongle for 3 weeks and in that time I need to become fully proficient with Jaws. Gordon === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml ---
Re: Jaws for Windows
Hi Martin Krystal Nothing is yet confirmed, the admin people are taking advantage of the summer holidays. :) I have the Jaws dongle but I'm having problems getting hold of the demo file. Thanks for the positive comments from both. I'll update you as things change. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 11:39, Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net wrote: I imagine that they have been trying to find somebody with your area of expertise and have been failing to do so. Of course attitude and initiative are like gold, but they also have a need to fill and you may, to use an American saying, be the man. Sorry I don't have anything else brilliant to impart, but this is kind of a test message as well as being a comment. Martin Chris Moore writes: Gordon, I just wanted to say good luck with today. You have a great deal of knowledge and expertise to offer. Let me know how you get on. === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml ---
Re: Downloading Jaws 13 Demo
Gordon, The full version is the demo. When you fire up JAWS and it does not find a dongle or CD key, it asks you to activate JAWS. If you do not do that, then JAWS automatically runs in 40 minute demo mode. Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 12:37, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 11:49, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: • Are you downloading via Mac or Windows? Mac OS X and Safari 6. • I just tried this link: So did I. I can download the full version fine, the problem is the demo version. I'm aware of the download alerts or lack of them. But I'm not able to download the demo. Gordon http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/http/http-downloads.asp You have to remember if you are using Safari on your Mac, it does not alert you when a file starts downloading. Also check you have got Gate Keeper set to allow you to download external files and to check the status of a download, press command + option + l in safari to open your download window. If you are doing it via Windows, are you using NVDA or SA to Go? Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 11:20, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all Is anybody else able to check the Freedom Scientific website for me please? The Jaws demo links just don't seem to work. I need the 64-bit demo yesterday because the countdown is on, I only have this dongle for 3 weeks and in that time I need to become fully proficient with Jaws. Gordon === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml ---
Re: Downloading Jaws 13 Demo
Hi Chris Right! That changes things greatly. I thought the demo was a separate download because they have links on their website to Trial Software. Sorry about that, dum of me! OK, I've downloaded the 64-bit version so I'll go and try it. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 12:40, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Gordon, The full version is the demo. When you fire up JAWS and it does not find a dongle or CD key, it asks you to activate JAWS. If you do not do that, then JAWS automatically runs in 40 minute demo mode. Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 12:37, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 11:49, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: • Are you downloading via Mac or Windows? Mac OS X and Safari 6. • I just tried this link: So did I. I can download the full version fine, the problem is the demo version. I'm aware of the download alerts or lack of them. But I'm not able to download the demo. Gordon http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/http/http-downloads.asp You have to remember if you are using Safari on your Mac, it does not alert you when a file starts downloading. Also check you have got Gate Keeper set to allow you to download external files and to check the status of a download, press command + option + l in safari to open your download window. If you are doing it via Windows, are you using NVDA or SA to Go? Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 11:20, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all Is anybody else able to check the Freedom Scientific website for me please? The Jaws demo links just don't seem to work. I need the 64-bit demo yesterday because the countdown is on, I only have this dongle for 3 weeks and in that time I need to become fully proficient with Jaws. Gordon === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at
One more Jaws website query
Hi all Just one more question, for now. What's this OCR Engine For Convenient OCR on the Jaws website? Gordon === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml ---
Re: One more Jaws website query
Gordon, JAWS (and NVDA too for that matter) have the ability to scrape a page and look for content that is not usually accessible to the screen reader and then makes it become accessible. For example you have a application which has labelled buttons, and I mean a sighted person can see the text on those buttons, but the screen reader reads the button as button. JAWS is able to perform an OCR and make those buttons readable. This feature is particularly useful when watching a DVD. Currently menus on DVDs are not accessible, JAWS fixes that problem. These are just a couple of examples. I would love to see this feature added to voiceover, but as Apple like to jump onto the spring years of technology, I can't see them adopting DVD OCR as DVDs are in the autumn years of their life and will eventually be fully replaced with streaming / downloads. JAWS 13 has some very interesting features, especially when using the text analyser with MS Word. I have still not found a way for JAWS to tell me if I have incorrectly spelt a word after hitting the spacebar which I have taken for granted on the Mac. Mind you, I am still on XP at work and using office 2003, so that might have a baring. Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 12:58, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all Just one more question, for now. What's this OCR Engine For Convenient OCR on the Jaws website? Gordon === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml ---
Re: One more Jaws website query
Hi Chris OK, I've discovered that if I use the FTP download link for Jaws using a PC, it reads very differently for one thing to how it does with VoiceOver. For a start, the downloads are labelled Demo which VoiceOver doesn't see. For seconds, the FTP downloads work, which they do not in Safari 6. That, if it holds true for all FTP downloads, is a huge hole in Safari, just like the removal of RSS is in Safari 6. I'll shortly be installing Jaws, but one thing I do not like from what I saw of the installer last time. It automatically, and without giving the user the option to change it, evokes System Restore to create a restore point. That is really ugly as far a as I'm concerned. We don't use System Restore at all, in preference to RollBack which is far more powerful. But the text access features sound interesting. I'll get Jaws 64-bit install on our Windows 7 Notebook shortly and see how it goes. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 13:35, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Gordon, JAWS (and NVDA too for that matter) have the ability to scrape a page and look for content that is not usually accessible to the screen reader and then makes it become accessible. For example you have a application which has labelled buttons, and I mean a sighted person can see the text on those buttons, but the screen reader reads the button as button. JAWS is able to perform an OCR and make those buttons readable. This feature is particularly useful when watching a DVD. Currently menus on DVDs are not accessible, JAWS fixes that problem. These are just a couple of examples. I would love to see this feature added to voiceover, but as Apple like to jump onto the spring years of technology, I can't see them adopting DVD OCR as DVDs are in the autumn years of their life and will eventually be fully replaced with streaming / downloads. JAWS 13 has some very interesting features, especially when using the text analyser with MS Word. I have still not found a way for JAWS to tell me if I have incorrectly spelt a word after hitting the spacebar which I have taken for granted on the Mac. Mind you, I am still on XP at work and using office 2003, so that might have a baring. Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 12:58, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi all Just one more question, for now. What's this OCR Engine For Convenient OCR on the Jaws website? Gordon === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml ---
Re: One more Jaws website query
Hi Chris The FTP downloads screen, and Window-Eyes 7.5.4. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 14:33, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: OUt of interest, which web page are you referring to which has the FTP links and the additional demo description? What screen reader are you using to download the ftp file? Sorry I am a bit of a html / screen reader geek. === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml ---
Re: One more Jaws website query
Hi Chris No matter what I tried under Safari 6 Mac OS X 10.8 the links wouldn't resolve. But no matter, I have the installer now. Interestingly though, when I plugged my dongle into the NoteBook running Windows 7, it couldn't install the device drivers. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:41, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: They worked fine for me how strange === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml ---
Re: One more Jaws website query
Josh. No, this is Windows. As I told you I'm going to need it for work. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:46, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey wait, am I understanding there's a jaws for mac? On 8/3/12, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: They worked fine for me how strange Sent from my iPhone On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:36, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Chris I'd already tried that page before you gave me it actually and it wouldn't work. But it seems that Safari 6 doesn't like the FTP download links on that page. I have the installer now and will be installing in a few moments. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 15:38, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Gordon, Why did you not just download it from the page I gave you? I had no problems downloading JAWS with Safari. As you have not provided the actual web page you eventually downloaded JAWS from, I am unable to say for sure why Window Eyes saw demo. This could because Window Eyes has been set to see link title attributes text? Safari 6 and VO under ML no longer see title attributes and JAWS does not read them by default. They are a waste of time and of more use to sighted users. Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 15:17, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Chris The FTP downloads screen, and Window-Eyes 7.5.4. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 14:33, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: OUt of interest, which web page are you referring to which has the FTP links and the additional demo description? What screen reader are you using to download the ftp file? Sorry I am a bit of a html / screen reader geek. === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the
Re: One more Jaws website query
No JAWS for Mac. It can be run on a Windows partition or simply downloaded to a flash drive for installation on a Windows computer. - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! techno-chat@techno-chat.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: One more Jaws website query Hey wait, am I understanding there's a jaws for mac? On 8/3/12, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: They worked fine for me how strange Sent from my iPhone On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:36, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Chris I'd already tried that page before you gave me it actually and it wouldn't work. But it seems that Safari 6 doesn't like the FTP download links on that page. I have the installer now and will be installing in a few moments. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 15:38, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Gordon, Why did you not just download it from the page I gave you? I had no problems downloading JAWS with Safari. As you have not provided the actual web page you eventually downloaded JAWS from, I am unable to say for sure why Window Eyes saw demo. This could because Window Eyes has been set to see link title attributes text? Safari 6 and VO under ML no longer see title attributes and JAWS does not read them by default. They are a waste of time and of more use to sighted users. Chris On 3 Aug 2012, at 15:17, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Chris The FTP downloads screen, and Window-Eyes 7.5.4. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 14:33, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: OUt of interest, which web page are you referring to which has the FTP links and the additional demo description? What screen reader are you using to download the ftp file? Sorry I am a bit of a html / screen reader geek. === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: http://www.mail-archive.com/techno-chat@techno-chat.net/maillist.xml --- -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com === The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at
