Re: [Techno-Chat]: Tevo Box

2016-10-25 Thread Chris Moore MBE 
In the UK our TIVO box is provided by Virgin Media. With the TV Anytime app you 
can  access most features. You can view tv guide, change channels, emulate the 
remote control, schedule recordings, start and stop layback of recordings, 
delete them, manage series links, view on demand and catch-up services etc.

The service is ok, and I love how you can jump through adverts really quickly. 
Overall it is starting to show its age a bit, loading external services like 
Netflix and BBC iPlayer is slow, you are better off using Chromecast from your 
mobile to your TV. Sky Q now have a much better offering which can be 
controlled over the internet, so no need for powerline adapters, plus you can 
stream to iPhone and iPad (your recorded shows), with my TIVO you can only live 
stream certain channels to an iPad.

Thanks 

Chris 

> On 25 Oct 2016, at 15:00, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Just hanging the subject line since you mention the Tevo Box.
> We have them in Australia and - up until your mention of the Box - I wasn’t 
> ware that these could be accessed by a person with no vision but obviously 
> they can through the iPhone App.
> So how do you find the Tevo Box and exactly what is it capable of.
> I believe that the box contains a Free-To-Air tuner for watching and 
> recording Free-To-Air channels, can this be accessed?
> 
>> On 25 Oct. 2016, at 9:36 pm, Chris Moore MBE <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk 
>> <mailto:moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> I use these so I can control my TIVO box via my iPhone app. For this to 
>> happen I have to connect my cable router to the back of my TIVO box. Router 
>> is upstairs and cable box is in the lounge downstairs, so they have been 
>> connected via Belkin powerline adapters instead of running ethernet cables 
>> throughout the house.
>> 
>> I have been using them for 4 years and they work flawlessly. The one 
>> downstairs is going through a surge protector and does not seem to affect 
>> performance. The signal being passed through my wires only goes as far as 
>> the fuse box, so no danger of next door picking up my feeds.
>> 
>> Chris 
>> 
>>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 05:59, Iaen Cordell <i...@optusnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:i...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> yes, as do I.
>>> talk to you about it early tomorrow morning.
>>> cheers
>>> IC
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Dane Trethowan <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net <mailto:techno-chat@techno-chat.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 3:52 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Using the power line for my home network
>>>> 
>>>> In my case then that would be a huge problem, I have quite a few serge 
>>>> filters in my power circuits, 
>>>> 
>>>> On 25/10/2016 3:51 PM, Iaen Cordell wrote:
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>>>>>  
>>>>> that should not be a problem as from memory they work on a sort of mac 
>>>>> address of each device.
>>>>> the main issue you may have is if you use any form of filters on your 
>>>>> lines or powerpoints.
>>>>> that also includes surge filters, I have had this problem, all filters 
>>>>> had to be removed to make them work.
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> IC
>>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>>> From: Dane Trethowan <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>>>> To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! 
>>>>>> <mailto:techno-chat@techno-chat.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:45 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Techno-Chat]: Using the power line for my home network
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi! 
>>>>>> At present I have a Wi-Fi link between my Asus RTAC3200 and an Asus 
>>>>>> RTAC68 router, the RT

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Using the power line for my home network

2016-10-25 Thread Chris Moore MBE 
I use these so I can control my TIVO box via my iPhone app. For this to happen 
I have to connect my cable router to the back of my TIVO box. Router is 
upstairs and cable box is in the lounge downstairs, so they have been connected 
via Belkin powerline adapters instead of running ethernet cables throughout the 
house.

I have been using them for 4 years and they work flawlessly. The one downstairs 
is going through a surge protector and does not seem to affect performance. The 
signal being passed through my wires only goes as far as the fuse box, so no 
danger of next door picking up my feeds.

Chris 

> On 25 Oct 2016, at 05:59, Iaen Cordell  wrote:
> 
> yes, as do I.
> talk to you about it early tomorrow morning.
> cheers
> IC
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Dane Trethowan 
>> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 3:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Using the power line for my home network
>> 
>> In my case then that would be a huge problem, I have quite a few serge 
>> filters in my power circuits, 
>> 
>> On 25/10/2016 3:51 PM, Iaen Cordell wrote:
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>>> 
>>>  
>>> that should not be a problem as from memory they work on a sort of mac 
>>> address of each device.
>>> the main issue you may have is if you use any form of filters on your lines 
>>> or powerpoints.
>>> that also includes surge filters, I have had this problem, all filters had 
>>> to be removed to make them work.
>>> cheers
>>> IC
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan 
 To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:45 AM
 Subject: [Techno-Chat]: Using the power line for my home network
 
 Hi! 
 At present I have a Wi-Fi link between my Asus RTAC3200 and an Asus RTAC68 
 router, the RTAC3200 being the main router and the RTAC68 as aan Access 
 point.
 This arrangement seems to work very well though speed it limited to 
 600MBPS.
 I’m thinking of using some power line LAN adapters in place of the Wi-Fi 
 arrangement as described above, TP-Link are offering a Starter Pack of 2 
 Adapters which are supposed to have a maximum transmission speed over the 
 power line of 1.2GBPS.
 So that’s all simple enough but I am a little concerned as to the 
 venerability of these things.
 For example, suppose the owner of the property next door just so happened 
 to have some of these TP-Link adapters, could he easily gain access to my 
 Home Network or could the adapters on his property possibly conflict with 
 those on mine?
 
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Amazon Echo

2016-10-17 Thread Chris Moore 
How do you know it will be limited to the Apple tv? It could be a seperate 
unit, it is all speculation  

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Oct 2016, at 7:25 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Hmm. will be interesting to see whether the new version is compatible with 
> other countries outside the U.S.
> Perhaps I’ve miss-read something but the options described in what you’ve 
> posted sound remarkably similar to what is available already.
> I myself have been meaning to order one - having set one up already I’m 
> impressed by the performance and functionality - however there’s the Google 
> Home coming and of course Apple TV will offer similar functionality however 
> that will be limited to the Apple TV box itself and not a separate unit.
> 
>> On 17 Oct. 2016, at 4:49 am, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Remember though, these options will apply to the old version. The new one 
>> does not hit the market until 28 October.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My compliments and kindest regards
>> Gordon Smith:
>> <gor...@mac-access.net>
>> 
>> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist.
>> Mobile/SMS:
>> +44 (0)7907 823971
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Oct 2016, at 18:27, Chris Moore <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love mine, and with the help of wemo switches and ITaTT I have my lights 
>>> automatically coming on at sunset  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 16 Oct 2016, at 4:25 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> I know someone who bought one and he's extremely happy with it though he 
>>>> had to do a little fiddling to have it work properly in Australia.
>>>> Even now the Echo still doesn't read phone numbers correctly - we have 8 
>>>> digit phone numbers whereas the U.S. have 7 digit phone numbers. -
>>>> Part of getting the Echo working correctly was to set it to a location 
>>>> with the same time zone as Australia, Guam was the obvious choice here.
>>>> Then the problem arose of getting the App from the IOS App store, the Echo 
>>>> App isn't available in Australia so a workaround had to be put into place.
>>>> I don't recall all of what had to be done now as it was some time ago - I 
>>>> actually posted all the steps required to techno-chat at the time - but 
>>>> now my friend can sign into his account on the web and control the echo 
>>>> from there - well most of it -.
>>>> As was written in the original mail, there are 3 different echos available 
>>>> right now and a review of each model was in Access World a couple of 
>>>> months ago, turns out the original echo is by far the best one to buy and 
>>>> - from the demos I've heard - I'd be pretty happy with that too.
>>>> Amazon does have competition from the Google Home device, the Google Home 
>>>> was demonstrated on the BBC Radio 4 Today show a month or so back, I 
>>>> actually heard the demo live, Google is to launch the Home soon.
>>>> If you'd rather get ahead of the Home and the Echo - and you have an 
>>>> Android phone - then you can either try the Google Allo App or - if you'd 
>>>> rather your Android device be shiny and new with all the features of 
>>>> Amazon Echo and Google Home Built-in - buy a Google Pixel smartphone.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 15/10/2016 6:22 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>>>>> Hello everybody
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve been silently watching this one for about 5 months now, and tonight 
>>>>> I placed an order for one. It isn’t just a speaker that you can listen 
>>>>> from, it’s a “Listener” that you can talk too. You add all your commands 
>>>>> verbally, and you can now have it do quite a wide range of tasks for you. 
>>>>> It’s the first step along the way towards a “Smart” home; read on:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amazon's voice-activated smart home speaker is undeniably futuristic, but 
>>>>> it's also practical and accessible. With a rapidly growing slate of 
>>>>> features and integrations, it's easy to get excited about the Echo's 
>>>>> potential.
>>>>> 
>>>>> THE BAD The Echo's sound quality is uneven at times, with weak bass at 
>>>>> high volumes. The growing

Re: Roxio Makes A Dramatic Return To The Accessible World Of Windows Software

2012-08-15 Thread Chris Moore 
Gordon,

Did you ever come back to us with the findings for Toast? Is it accessible?  
Apologies if you did.

Also, how does Roxio compare on Windows and Mac in terms of accessibility and 
usability?
On 15 Aug 2012, at 19:30, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hello everybody
 
 I'm delighted to be able to report to the group that Roxio, with its recent 
 release of Creator 2012 Professional has re-defined the world of media 
 creation under Windows.  This is especially true of BD/CD/DVD creation.  
 Their innovative new interface is a joy to use.  Although there are a couple 
 of ways in which it could be improved, it's possible that I haven't fully 
 explored all of the view preferences as yet, so I'm not going to say the jury 
 has reached a unanimous verdict as yet. ;-)
 
 Although the entire package is still a little bit on the pricy side, you gets 
 what you pays for, as they say.  Roxio has very cleverly combined the new 
 style of Windows software where every function relies on dragging and 
 clicking items with a very nice and easy to use keyboard interface which 
 utilises mSAA to the full.
 
 As somebody who now owns a copy of this software, I totally applaud what 
 Roxio has done here, and am very much looking forward to playing with it some 
 more in the coming days.  If anybody is remotely interested in my findings, 
 views and opinions, I would be glad to share them with the group.
 
 Of course, if nobody is remotely interested, I shall not clutter up your 
 inboxes with my ramblings and comments.
 
 Gordon
 
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Re: Integration

2012-08-14 Thread Chris Moore 
You are not actually disabling the voice over cursor, just visually hiding it. 
To do this, you press control + option + command + F11 (you might have to press 
FN too depending on how your function keys are set up).

I wonder why VO reads out the key as option key, as on the keyboard it is 
actually Alt.  The keyboard on on my iMac, Macbook Pro and bluetooth keyboard 
all have Alt printed where VO reads out as Option.
On 14 Aug 2012, at 17:03, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, so how do you disable the VoiceOver cursor? I am thinking of the totally 
 blind, no vision whatsoever, mac user.
 
 On 14/08/2012 16:11, Gordon Smith wrote:
 You're correct, Chris.  And actually the VoiceOver cursor is disabled here 
 so that Lynne sees what we hear.  She finds there's no need for the 
 VoiceOver cursor at all.  If you configure the mouse pointer to follow the 
 VoiceOver cursor, it really makes little difference, if any, whether it's 
 visible or not.  VoiceOver does have its faults, it would be totally untrue 
 and misleading to claim otherwise.  But its seamless integration with the 
 operating system is one of its strengths.
 
 Gordon
 
 On 14 Aug 2012, at 16:06, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well the beauty with VoiceOver is no virtual cursors exist! Simply a 
 VoiceOver cursor that a sighted person can see via a black rectangle! I know 
 this is not VoiceOver but just saying!
 
 
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Re: Jaws Progress

2012-08-13 Thread Chris Moore 
Gordon,

You don't need to hold down insert to move around the screen, you only need to 
use the arrow keys.  If you click on the help menu within JAWS, you will see a 
link for Real Speak Voices.  You can download any of the voices for free which 
are designed to work specifically with JAWS.

Chris 
On 13 Aug 2012, at 11:49, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Well, I never thought I'd see the day when I would say this, but I have to 
 admit that I quite like some aspects of Jaws 13.  What I cannot quite get to 
 work is moving around the screen area with Jaws.  It doesn't seem to be that 
 if I press Insert+cursor keys, it reads.  I would have expected it to do that.
 
 I do have one question though.  I have some SAPI5 voices installed on my 
 system, but when I try and change voices Jaws simply isn't seeing them.  They 
 are not tied to any screen-reader.  So, the question is why isn't Jaws seeing 
 the voices?  I hate that Eloquance trash!
 
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Re: Downloading Jaws 13 Demo

2012-08-03 Thread Chris Moore 
Gordon,

Are you downloading via Mac or Windows?

I just tried this link:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/http/http-downloads.asp

You have to remember if you are using Safari on your Mac, it does not alert you 
when a file starts downloading.  Also check you have got Gate Keeper set to 
allow you to download external files and to check the status of a download, 
press command + option + l in safari to open your download window.

If you are doing it via Windows, are you using NVDA or SA to Go?

Chris 

On 3 Aug 2012, at 11:20, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Is anybody else able to check the Freedom Scientific website for me please?  
 The Jaws demo links just don't seem to work.
 
 I need the 64-bit demo yesterday because the countdown is on, I only have 
 this dongle for 3 weeks and in that time I need to become fully proficient 
 with Jaws.
 
 Gordon
 
 
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Re: Downloading Jaws 13 Demo

2012-08-03 Thread Chris Moore 
Gordon,

The full version is the demo.  When you fire up JAWS and it does not find a 
dongle or CD key, it asks you to activate JAWS.  If you do not do that, then 
JAWS automatically runs in 40 minute demo mode.

Chris 
On 3 Aug 2012, at 12:37, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Chris
 
 On 3 Aug 2012, at 11:49, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 • Are you downloading via Mac or Windows?
 
 Mac OS X and Safari 6.
 
 • I just tried this link:
 
 So did I.  I can download the full version fine, the problem is the demo 
 version.  I'm aware of the download alerts or lack of them.  But I'm not able 
 to download the demo.
 Gordon
 
 
 http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/http/http-downloads.asp
 
 You have to remember if you are using Safari on your Mac, it does not alert 
 you when a file starts downloading.  Also check you have got Gate Keeper set 
 to allow you to download external files and to check the status of a 
 download, press command + option + l in safari to open your download window.
 
 If you are doing it via Windows, are you using NVDA or SA to Go?
 
 Chris 
 
 On 3 Aug 2012, at 11:20, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 Is anybody else able to check the Freedom Scientific website for me please?  
 The Jaws demo links just don't seem to work.
 
 I need the 64-bit demo yesterday because the countdown is on, I only have 
 this dongle for 3 weeks and in that time I need to become fully proficient 
 with Jaws.
 
 Gordon
 
 
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Re: One more Jaws website query

2012-08-03 Thread Chris Moore 
Gordon,

JAWS (and NVDA too for that matter) have the ability to scrape a page and look 
for content that is not usually accessible to the screen reader and then makes 
it become accessible.

For example you have a application which has labelled buttons, and I mean a 
sighted person can see the text on those buttons, but the screen reader reads 
the button as button.  JAWS is able to perform an OCR and make those buttons 
readable.

This feature is particularly useful when watching a DVD.  Currently menus on 
DVDs are not accessible, JAWS fixes that problem.

These are just a couple of examples.

I would love to see this feature added to voiceover, but as Apple like to jump 
onto the spring years of technology, I can't see them adopting DVD OCR as DVDs 
are in the autumn years of their life and will eventually be fully replaced 
with streaming / downloads.

JAWS 13 has some very interesting features, especially when using the text  
analyser with MS Word.

I have still not found a way for JAWS to tell me if I have incorrectly spelt a 
word after hitting the spacebar which I have   taken for granted on the Mac.  
Mind you, I am still on XP at work and using office 2003, so that might have a 
baring.

Chris 
On 3 Aug 2012, at 12:58, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Just one more question, for now.  What's this OCR Engine For Convenient OCR 
 on the Jaws website?
 
 Gordon
 
 
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Re: Windows, Jaws And Dongle!

2012-08-02 Thread Chris Moore 
Gordon,

If the dongle is authorised to work with version 13 of JAWS, then yes.  Just 
plug it in, fire up JAWS and you are good to go.

Chris 
On 2 Aug 2012, at 20:25, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hello everybody
 
 OK, I am now in temporary possession of a dongle which will, I hope, allow me 
 to use Jaws indefinitely throughout the period of three weeks for which I 
 have the dongle.
 
 But here's my question, and I want to get it right first time.  I've been 
 told that, if I download the demo of Jaws, install it and then plug in the 
 dongle, the demo will turn into a licensed copy of Jaws 13.  Is that correct? 
  This is just the first of I'm sure many questions asked by somebody who 
 hasn't seriously touched Jaws in over 10 years.
 
 Thanks for your patience and tolerance.
 
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Re: Jaws for Windows

2012-07-31 Thread Chris Moore 
Gordon,

You will be fine, it is fairly easy to pick up.  you are fine to download the 
latest version to play with in demo mode.  The dongle is only used for 
validation purposes and does not include a copy of the software on the drive 
(at least mine does not).

It might be useful to check which version of JAWS your potential employer is 
currently using.  For example I use JAWS 12 which is not the latest and my 
dongle only allows me to use JAWS 12.  so when I installed JAWS on my mac, I 
downloaded the exact same version so the dongle would work on that too.  The 
other reason why it is useful to know is because features and the way the 
settings are different in older versions.  

Chris 
 
On 31 Jul 2012, at 09:19, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Chris
 
 My understanding is that I'm going to be given a dongle so that I can use 
 Jaws and learn how it all works.  I'm just starting to do a bit of reading.  
 I don't really want to install any version I download just yet because I'm 
 not sure whether it's necessary.  I.e., whether Jaws is supplied on the thumb 
 drive or whether that's just used to validate the license when it loads.
 
 Yes, I know that Jaws and Office do work well.  To be absolutely fair, so 
 does Window-Eyes work well with Office.  I haven't tried PowerPoint or Excel 
 because I've never had need of them.  But that might change if I get this job 
 and that is my primary motivation for going the Jaws route.
 
 As for not being as productive on the Mac, I'll reserve judgement on that.  
 It's definitely true that there are some areas of Pages which are lacking as 
 far as the VoiceOver user is concerned.  Again though, I do acknowledge fully 
 that Freedom Scientific has done a very good job of its Office accessibility 
 implementation.  I've never actually used it as I've said, but I have heard 
 demos of it and there are aspects of Office which I never managed to use 
 fully with Window-Eyes, but they work fine with Jaws.
 
 After they resold my serial number and SMA to a customer and refused to 
 acknowledge my loss even though my details were tied to the serial number 
 they resold, I kind of went away from Jaws and never bothered to keep up to 
 date with it.  But now, well, my needs are different.  I am hoping that I can 
 get a job in a local school, and I've also put in for one at a college, as 
 they are shortly going to be advertising exactly the same job.  Also, the 
 school where I went a couple of weeks ago are keen to employ me because of my 
 technical skills and knowledge.  That isn't me being big-headed or anything, 
 it's what they said to me.  But to get back to the point, they currently use 
 Jaws on all of their Windows machines so I need to learn how to use it so 
 that I can hit the ground running.
 
 Gordon
 
 On 31 Jul 2012, at 08:57, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 Gordon,
 
 It all depends where you intend to use JAWS. If you are a simple end user and 
 only require the CD to install on one machine, then you can go down that 
 route and activate your CD key via the Internet.
 
 Enterprise environments prefer to go down the dongle route which means you 
 can then use the dongle on any machine and not worry about installing 
 certificates etc.  I think it is very old hat too, but there you go.
 
 I live in fear of losing my JAWS dongle.
 
 Love it or hate it, you can't argue how well JAWS and Office work together.  
 I really wish I could be as productive in an Office way on my Mac.
 
 Chris 
 On 31 Jul 2012, at 05:29, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Mike
 
 Sorry I'm a bit confused here.  Yes, naturally I plan to review the basic 
 documentation.  I take it that's what you're suggesting?  To tell you the 
 honest truth it goes against the grain for me to start reading manuals, but 
 on this occasion I may have no option.  Jaws is a strange beast to me, but 
 it's one I have to master, like it or not.  Actually though I do have 
 another question.  I thought that Freedom had moved away fro the use of 
 dongles.  But my assistant is telling me that they are going to arrange to 
 get me a dongle to license Jaws.  Is that still used as a method of copy 
 protection?  I thought it was now all Internet activation?
 
 Gordon
 
 On 30 Jul 2012, at 19:07, mike mmstopk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Ben a jfw user sense I was 3 the uses guide is a good place to start and any
 questions you have I should be ablt to help you with.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: techno-chat-boun...@techno-chat.net
 [mailto:techno-chat-boun...@techno-chat.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith
 Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:30 PM
 To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!
 Subject: Jaws for Windows
 
 Hi all
 
 OK, so now my possible future career in the educational IT field requires me
 to have a working knowledge of Jaws.  Arrangements ares being made for me to
 have a working copy of Jaws.  Anybody got any tips as to where to start

Re: GB; [Was: Computer Sound]

2012-06-01 Thread Chris Moore 
GarageBand :)
On 1 Jun 2012, at 13:09, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

 Hello Chris
 
 At the risk of appearing woefully ignorant, what is GB?
 
 Lynne
 
 On 31 May 2012, at 13:56, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 Ah yes the good old digitizers with their waveform editing.  The C64 was 
 fantastic for MIDI and drums too actually.  I think Steinburg 12 first 
 appeared on the C64 which is now known as Cubase on Windows and the Mac.   As 
 far as digitizers go or as audio samplers as they became known, for me the 
 best was Audio Engineer by Aegis on the Amiga.
 
 It is quite easy to record tracks on GB and trigger the various sounds with 
 your keyboard.  I think the sounds on GB are quite good, but I also have all 
 the Jam Packs plus the Logic sound libraries.  Sadly you can't edit any MIDI 
 events (well you can but they are not accessible via voice over).  Riccardo 
 Walker has done some pretty good podcasts on how to use GB with VO.  He 
 mainly covers using loops though and editing.  It is not a bad little 
 application, but I wish they would add an event list and beefed up VO support 
 a bit more.  Let's hope GB gets an update this year.
 
 
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Re: C64 and Other Neat Stuff Was the good old days of TV

2012-05-31 Thread Chris Moore 
Hi Gordon,

The currah was a speech synth and spoke everything you typed and of course 
could be included within applications that supported it.  From memory I think 
some text based adventures supported it.
At the time I was sighted and had never heard of a screen reader.  I was only 
12 and quite immature I guess as myself and my friends would roll around 
laughing at hearing it swear.

Chris 
On 30 May 2012, at 19:34, Gordon Smith wrote:

 Hi Chris
 
 Yes, but this wasn't a screen-reader, or was it?  My own little sub-routine 
 utilised a little adapter and the Braid Systems speech synthesiser. It was a 
 lot more expensive than your own solution which, I confess, I've never heard 
 of until now.  I am curious as to how this thing worked actually so maybe, 
 just maybe, there was a way of accessing the screen on the C64 which I wasn't 
 aware of.  My own solution was very primitive, and there was no way to review 
 the screen's content in any other way than live.  So you had to be on your 
 metal and listening intently to what was happening.  There were also gaps 
 because the high graphic content of a lot of C64 software simply couldn't be 
 spoken properly.  Those who used ASCII and ANSI to draw their graphics gave 
 me a huge problem because the synth would just speek nonsense when it 
 encountered those.
 
 Gordon
 
 On 30 May 2012, at 17:19, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 I used to have Currah speech for the c64.  It was a cartridge that had a din 
 cable coming out the back of it which you plugged into the audio 5 pin audio 
 in socket next to the cartridge slot of the C64.  I think it cost £29 at the 
 time (1984) and you used the say command within your C64 basic to get it to 
 speak.
 
 You can hear a sample 
 at:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBx1nTcVPEUfeature=related
 
 
 Chris 
 
 
 On 29 May 2012, at 16:55, Martin McCormick wrote:
 
  I figured at the time that a person could write an
 interrupt service routine or an extra patch of code just as you
 described.
 
  The Apple II had an interrupt but nothing on board used
 it, not even the keyboard. I had a Mountain Hardware
 clock/calendar board plugged in to the mother board which
 actually did supply an interrupt once per second and I did play
 with it a bit, but you had to butcher up the clock board to get
 any more frequent interrupts than once per second and I just
 didn't see the value in that at the time.
 
  As for the access interface, I started out with a
 routine that fit in to low RAM which hooked the address for the
 screen buffer and converted all the data that could be converted
 in to Morse Code. That was sure a start since I already knew
 Morse, but the TSI speech board and the Votrax were each a big
 step up from the other.
 
  While we are on the topic, the sound generator in the
 C64 was spectacular compared with anything else at the time. The
 Apple II had a D-type flip-flop for both the loud speaker and
 for the cassette tape interface. To make sounds, you addressed
 which ever one of those devices you wanted and that would cause
 the strobe to pulse which stepped the flip-flop from the state
 it was in to the next state so, for example, to make a 1000 HZ
 tone, you wrote a counter routine to hit that address 2000 times
 a second which cycled it on then off, then on again for as many
 times as your counter was set to loop.
 
  The IBM P.C. systems had a slightly more versatile noise
 maker in that there was a programmable counter on a dedicated
 chip which you could set to a 16-bit number which determined the
 pitch of your tone.  The counter/timer chip received a roughly
 1-MHZ clock signal and your tones were whatever frequency you
 got by setting the counter to any number from 1 to 65535 with
 that value giving you a buzz around 25 or 30 HZ.
 
  The C64, on the other hand could have generated speech
 as it had a 3-voice chip as you mention below.
 
  Had my life gone a little differently, I probably would
 have been really proficient in the C64 as it was quite the
 machine in its day.
 
 You say,
 
 As for the C64, I wrote a very rudimentary screen-reader which sat in RAM 
 at location 679 and dumped everything textually sent to the video port to 
 the C64's user port.  In those days I had a little adapter which allowed 
 me to interface a Braid System speech synthesizer to the C64 using its 
 parallel input.  The voice was dreadful, but not as bad as some of the 
 more modern software speech implementation, such as that horrible DecTalk 
 32 that ships with Window-Eyes, and the DecTalk Express and DecTalk PC 
 which used to be quite popular for some reason.
 
  DecTalk always reminded me of somebody who had had a few
 too many or who had suffered some trauma that one might be
 curious about but prudence would keep one from asking any
 probing questions.
 
 You said,
 
 The sound on the C64 was innovative for its day and could probably still 
 hold a
 candle to some

Re: Computer Sound

2012-05-31 Thread Chris Moore 
Oh and yes drum and guitar sounds are present in GB, you don't actually need 
the real instruments.  You can either use preset loops, or use one of the 
virtual instruments to play your own.


On 31 May 2012, at 11:10, Gordon Smith wrote:

 Hi Chris
 
 I seem to remember buying something called a Digitiser for the Commodore 
 but, unfortunately, it was one of those things which were extremely graphical 
 and there was only their own dedicated software which would work with their 
 hardware.  Later, I bought a hardware synthesiser for the BBC model B, but 
 never really got much out of that because it required MIDI to use it properly 
 and although there was an onscreen music template you could use, again it was 
 very graphical.
 
 After that I kind of dropped the idea of using the computer for music 
 creation.  The interest didn't die though and I bought a keyboard from Apple 
 last year but again I am very disappointed in what I got.  Granted it only 
 cost me 80 quid, but I'd hoped I could get more out of it.  Maybe it's me … 
 but GarageBand doesn't seem to offer me what I was looking for.  I haven't as 
 yet figured out how, or even whether you can produce a guitar sound and drum 
 sound without the actual instruments, if you see what I mean.  I also haven't 
 found any way to record, edit and mix multiple tracks.  I'm pretty sure you 
 can do it, it's just that I haven't been able too so far due to illness for 
 much of the last 3-and-a-half years.  But maybe I should look for another 
 keyboard, only this time, one with its own synthesiser in hardware.  I also 
 need a sustain peddle if I'm going to go that route as a piano or other 
 electric keyboard is a bit ugly unless you can control the sustain and decay 
 when you're playing.
 
 Gordon
 
 On 31 May 2012, at 09:06, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 The currah was a speech synth and spoke everything you typed and of course 
 could be included within applications that supported it.  From memory I think 
 some text based adventures supported it.
 At the time I was sighted and had never heard of a screen reader.  I was only 
 12 and quite immature I guess as myself and my friends would roll around 
 laughing at hearing it swear.
 
 
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Re: C64 and Other Neat Stuff Was the good old days of TV

2012-05-30 Thread Chris Moore 
I used to have Currah speech for the c64.  It was a cartridge that had a din 
cable coming out the back of it which you plugged into the audio 5 pin audio in 
socket next to the cartridge slot of the C64.  I think it cost £29 at the time 
(1984) and you used the say command within your C64 basic to get it to speak.

You can hear a sample 
at:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBx1nTcVPEUfeature=related


Chris 


On 29 May 2012, at 16:55, Martin McCormick wrote:

   I figured at the time that a person could write an
 interrupt service routine or an extra patch of code just as you
 described.
 
   The Apple II had an interrupt but nothing on board used
 it, not even the keyboard. I had a Mountain Hardware
 clock/calendar board plugged in to the mother board which
 actually did supply an interrupt once per second and I did play
 with it a bit, but you had to butcher up the clock board to get
 any more frequent interrupts than once per second and I just
 didn't see the value in that at the time.
 
   As for the access interface, I started out with a
 routine that fit in to low RAM which hooked the address for the
 screen buffer and converted all the data that could be converted
 in to Morse Code. That was sure a start since I already knew
 Morse, but the TSI speech board and the Votrax were each a big
 step up from the other.
 
   While we are on the topic, the sound generator in the
 C64 was spectacular compared with anything else at the time. The
 Apple II had a D-type flip-flop for both the loud speaker and
 for the cassette tape interface. To make sounds, you addressed
 which ever one of those devices you wanted and that would cause
 the strobe to pulse which stepped the flip-flop from the state
 it was in to the next state so, for example, to make a 1000 HZ
 tone, you wrote a counter routine to hit that address 2000 times
 a second which cycled it on then off, then on again for as many
 times as your counter was set to loop.
 
   The IBM P.C. systems had a slightly more versatile noise
 maker in that there was a programmable counter on a dedicated
 chip which you could set to a 16-bit number which determined the
 pitch of your tone.  The counter/timer chip received a roughly
 1-MHZ clock signal and your tones were whatever frequency you
 got by setting the counter to any number from 1 to 65535 with
 that value giving you a buzz around 25 or 30 HZ.
 
   The C64, on the other hand could have generated speech
 as it had a 3-voice chip as you mention below.
 
   Had my life gone a little differently, I probably would
 have been really proficient in the C64 as it was quite the
 machine in its day.
 
 You say,
 
 As for the C64, I wrote a very rudimentary screen-reader which sat in RAM 
 at location 679 and dumped everything textually sent to the video port to 
 the C64's user port.  In those days I had a little adapter which allowed 
 me to interface a Braid System speech synthesizer to the C64 using its 
 parallel input.  The voice was dreadful, but not as bad as some of the 
 more modern software speech implementation, such as that horrible DecTalk 
 32 that ships with Window-Eyes, and the DecTalk Express and DecTalk PC 
 which used to be quite popular for some reason.
 
   DecTalk always reminded me of somebody who had had a few
 too many or who had suffered some trauma that one might be
 curious about but prudence would keep one from asking any
 probing questions.
 
 You said,
 
 The sound on the C64 was innovative for its day and could probably still 
 hold a
 candle to some more modern hardware of its type.
 
   It definitely could. What we have here is evolution. DSP
 chips of which the C64's sound generator is one are an example
 of dedicated hardware doing one thing extremely well and it
 probably wouldn't be worth a darn doing anything else.
 
   It sounds like we were playing with similar toys in the
 eighties. I ended up learning the Motorola 68HC11 which is a
 digital controller chip. It is a 6800 processor with some
 timers, interrupts and an A/D converter.
 
   It had a monitor ROM one could use to develop
 assembly-level programs so you could use it to control whatever
 your imagination desired. The 68HC11 was originally designed to
 be the engine control unit in 1980's-era cars.
 
   I had a lot of fun playing with the 68HC11 as it was a
 lot like the 6502 except you could sure do a lot more addressing
 modes and therefore more powerful programming.
 
 So long for now.
 
 Martin
 
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Re: Closed Captions Was the good old days of TV

2012-05-26 Thread Chris Moore 
Can you believe Ceefax actually came out in 1974? and then Oracle ITV adopted 
the same standard in 1976?  

It is a shame our digital services which are available via the red button on 
our TVs are not accessible.

I used to own a Commodore 64, man I loved that beast.  The SID sound chip was 
purely awesome and I also remember MARI in Wallsend on Davy Bank.  I used to 
know a few local programmers who were training there.

I wonder if those Raspberry Pie  computers are accessible?

Chris 
On 26 May 2012, at 15:48, Gordon Smith wrote:

 Hi Martin
 
 On 26 May 2012, at 13:17, Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.edu wrote:
 
 That is quite okay. I tend to ramble on too long, anyway.
 
 Isn't that a problem inherent to most radio amateurs?  Perhaps that's why I 
 dislike rubber-stamp QSOs. :)
 
 Martin Said:
 
 I don't honestly think that the low-speed data transmission capability 
 feature in the video was ever used,
 here, to it full capabilities. Your version of this particular toy was a lot 
 better than ours.
 
 I know that I for one definitely benefitted from it back in the 80s.  When I 
 had my second Acorn BBC model B computer, I bought myself a teletext adapter 
 which allowed me to download and decode teletext on to the machine.  I wrote 
 a couple of programmes to make the reception of teletext easier.  One of 
 which was actually adopted by the manufacturer of the specific type of 
 adapter I was using, as it filled a gap that their programmers hadn't 
 considered.  It allowed the user to not only download and display the pages 
 in real time, but also to download and chronologically save the page and all 
 sub-pages on to disk.  For instance, the news pages were always indexed at 
 page 100.  One item of news would be transmitted as page 100/1, another was 
 100/2, etc..  Now, if you happened to open the page when 100/120 was being 
 transmitted, it was possible to download the bottom part of a story before 
 you received the first part, as the transmissions were rotated in sequence.  
 So, I wrote 
 a 
 small utility which would look at the page numbers and then the sub-page 
 numbers.  It would then look for the first page in the sequence, which always 
 started with /1.  Then it would save that first sub-page to disk and 
 proceed to the second, third and so on until it received the first page over 
 again.  Once all pages were saved the programme would assemble the entire 
 sequence for you, remove all unwanted graphics until only the text remained.  
 Then it would offer you the option to either permanently save the page and 
 all of its sub-pages to either individual files or sequentially into one 
 file, or to display the page for you so that you could scroll sequentially 
 through all of the pages in the right order.
 
 There were two rival teletext adapters on the market at that time which 
 worked with the BBC model B and the BBC Master.  Acorn themselves 
 manufactured one such adapter and the second one, (the one I personally chose 
 to buy) was produced by a company called Morley Electronics based in Wallsend 
 in Northumberland, here in North-East England.  Morley asked me if I would 
 object to them distributing my programme, and did so for about a year until 
 the BBC changed the format of their teletext transmissions internally which 
 broke my software.  By that time I'd moved on to using a Commodore C64 and so 
 I sent them the raw source for the application which was written in 6502 
 assembler which you could actually incorporate and run as part of BBC BASIC.  
 Unfortunately, Morley went out of business not long after that time owing to 
 the fact that Acorn bought the rights to their teletext adapter when their 
 chief designer jumped ship.  But anyway now it's me who is waffling.
 
 Radio Netherlands used to have a weekly short wave program called Media 
 Network which dealt with broadcast and
 media technology around the world and they sometimes mentioned teletext 
 systems in Europe. I remember thinking along the lines
 of How Neat! as one could send any sort of digital data on this channel if 
 it was configured correctly.
 
 The BBC World Service had a similar programme actually which was transmitted 
 every Wednesday evening at 23:15 hours, UTC.  It was called World Radio 
 Club, and it was highly useful for those interested in the propagation 
 conditions around the world and the impact they had on radio listening and 
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Re: TVonics DTR HD Recorder

2012-05-20 Thread Chris Moore 
Lynne,

You should be able to receive it by Sep/Oct when the Tyne Tees analogue 
transmitter is switched off.

Chris 
On 20 May 2012, at 10:33, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

 Hello Chris
 
 On 19 May 2012, at 19:30, chris hallsworth chris.hallswo...@techno-chat.net 
 wrote:
 
 • Hello all just to correct you channel 51 is ITV1 HD, 52 is Channel 4 HD, 53 
 is BBC HD.
 
 Fair comment. I am not sure that HD is the same country-wide. Actually for 
 some reason, although we do have an HD-compatible Freeview-compatible digital 
 antenna, orientating correctly and polarised correctly, of course, we're not 
 currently receiving any of the HD channels on any of our HD equipment. Nor 
 are the channels listed as being present under the regional channel guide for 
 our transmitter. We've checked them; and there's nothing between 48 and 60 
 listed anywhere. So as often seems to happen, I think we're still on the 
 waiting list. :)
 
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Re: Phonak ComPilot, Initial Impressions

2012-05-18 Thread Chris Moore 
Gordon,

Glad you are enjoying your new purchase.  Have you got voice prompts enables?  
That might have to be set by your audiologist too, its quite useful actually.

You are right, the sound quality is better than the iCom and basically includes 
almost everything I kept pestering Phonak about.

Sorry to hear your still in pain fella, I always thought where there was no 
sense there was no feeling? ;) 

Chris 
On 17 May 2012, at 23:14, Gordon Smith wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Today I received my new Phonak ComPilot from the supplier.  My initial 
 impressions are that this device is a treasure!  The only thing I don't have 
 working as yet is the remote hearing instrument control, because the 
 audiologist hasn't enabled that functionality as yet it would seem.  But in 
 terms of audio streaming, it's excellent.  The old iCom isn't a bad device.  
 But the ComPilot has a lot of advantages.  The additional volume control is 
 one of them, and although it could be my imagination, I think that the audio 
 quality is also superior.  The BlueTooth streaming is definitely better as 
 Chris reported yesterday on list.
 
 I need to try it out as a speaker phone to see how it performs with the 
 iPhone 4S.  I'll report to the group when I find out.  But so far it is 
 definitely very positive.  I'm fighting pain at the moment, so will stop 
 there for tonight.
 
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Re: Phonak ComPilot

2012-05-15 Thread Chris Moore 
The compilot is a bluetooth/audio jack streaming device and remote control all 
in one for hearing aids.
On 15 May 2012, at 04:00, Hank Smith wrote:

 Hello what is the compilot?
 On 5/14/2012 7:59 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
 Hello
 
 OK, I see that the ComPilot is much more than just a remote control; it has 
 spoken messages on its interface as well. So I have just ordered one for 
 Gordon which he should receive tomorrow, (Wednesday) morning.
 
 It's a bit pricey, £150.00 but if he gets the best out of it then that makes 
 it money well spent. I'm sure that, circumstances permitting, he'll be able 
 to pass comment on it when it arrives.
 
 He's also hopeful of receiving the talking HD recorder this week so when 
 that comes he is planning to do his first Podcast in a very long time. 
 Things are still a little difficult here just now, so it's all subjective at 
 the moment. But we are hopeful.
 
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Re: OnYix-TV DTR-HD500 Talking Freeview Recorder

2012-05-14 Thread Chris Moore 
Gordon,

Yes please, did you ever treat yourself to a Phonak Compilot to replace your 
iCom?

Chris 
On 14 May 2012, at 15:35, Gordon Smith wrote:

 Hi all
 
 I'm going to buy one of these and if anybody is interested I'll do a podcast. 
  I'm going to buy it main stream I think because the RNIB doesn't give us VAT 
 exemption on this product.  So, I'll buy it on the high street and then just 
 update the firmware myself.  Is there any interest in a walk-through podcast 
 of my initial update and setup of the unit?
 
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Phonak Compilot

2012-01-10 Thread Chris Moore 
Lynne,

i must admit I have never heard of these either.  You can get white canes with 
the roller ball which you use as described earlier without tapping, but they 
don't talk.

Something Gordon might be interested in for his hearing aids though is the new 
Compilot from Phonak.  It basically combines a remote control and improved iCom 
all into one, and even has voice prompt support and voice dialling and caller 
ID etc and also has improved battery life.

This would replace his iCom, oh and you can plug a FM receiver into it too. 
Chris 
On 10 Jan 2012, at 16:43, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

 Hello everybody
 
 Gordon, my other half, is shortly going to be starting a refresher course in 
 casework with a mobility instructor. We were talking with our social worker 
 yesterday, she's arranging this. But the point I'm making is that she was 
 speaking about a talking ball-cane.
 
 I've seen people walking around town with these things, and instead of 
 tapping the cane on the ground as you used to have to do, from what I've seen 
 you just role the ball across the ground in front of you as you walk and the 
 cane seems to tell you whether an obstacle or a curb is imminent in your 
 walk-path.
 
 Does anybody know anything about these things please? I'm curious as to how 
 the cane gets its spoken information to the user; surely not through the cane 
 itself or els how would you hear it in heavy traffic, etc.?
 
 Gordon is apparently going to be given one of these things so I would be 
 grateful for any information.
 
 Lynne
 
 
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Re: NVDA Query

2011-10-13 Thread Chris Moore 
Gordon,

Just thought I would chime in here.  I am trying to catch up on everything 
after getting back from 2 weeks away overseas.

I think you will find these podcasts informative and exactly what you are 
looking for:
http://www.blindtechsupport.net/podcasts/sr/nvda/

Chris 
On 13 Oct 2011, at 13:53, Gordon Smith wrote:

 Hi all
 
 OK, it's crunch time I think. So I wonder if anybody can answer me a couple 
 of questions regarding NVDA.
 
 I am trying not to draw comparisons between NVDA and Window-Eyes in term of 
 how they work because I don't think that would be helpful. The thing I need 
 to know is how, for instance, does one go about accessing the NVDA control 
 panel where you set up all of NVDA's options?  What is the default NVDA 
 modifier key used to move the equivalent of the We cursor?
 
 I neither expect nor want anybody to go in to detail.  But to be utterly 
 honest I'm becoming more and more disillusioned with Window-Eues each time I 
 use it.  It seems to me that GW Micro has gone too far down what I will call 
 the FS road.  Som, if anybody who is an experienced NVDA user feels like 
 giving me a hand off list with NVDA that would be appreciated.
 
 I am hoping there might come a time soon when I can ditch WE totally.  I have 
 absolutely no interested whatsoever in JFW, and as I said, WE is very much 
 like JFW now in some respects.
 
 Gordon
 
 
 
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Re: The Price of specialist equipment

2011-09-22 Thread Chris Moore 
I am talking about the SmartLink and not the ZoomLink.  The SmartLink is worn 
around the neck or can be placed on the table.  It has 3 different microphone 
settings for the internal mic and also allows external microphones to be 
plugged in.  I am not sure if it would need to be set to work with your FM 
receiver by an audiologist though.

You would need to purchase the receiver part, but I think this is cheaper than 
the SmartLink transmitter which I have and you are welcome to if Gordon's 
hearing aid supports it.  Check with your audiologist, if they know you are 
supplying the transmitter they will probably supply the FM  receiver shoe to 
fit Gordon's aid.

Chris 
On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:04, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

 Hello Chris\
 On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:31, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 I don't know whether multiple microphones can be part of my system but I'll 
 investigate that though I really don't need them for my situation I can 
 certainly appreciate as to why Gordon would find them helpful.
 
 Yes, the zoom link allows you use use 3 microphones at the same time and 2 
 aids each with different configurations.
 
 Here's another tip, try connecting the Zoom H1 to the line in of your system 
 when next at a meeting, you may find that this simple measure and the H!'S 
 very good microphones may make all the difference.
 
 That's something we've tried actually, and yes; it work to a point. But as 
 Dane has already pointed out there is a delay in the audio.
 
 Lynne
 
 
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Re: HP Officejet Pro 8500+

2011-09-17 Thread Chris Moore 
Sadly it is not very accessible on the Mac 
On 17 Sep 2011, at 09:09, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Been playing with the device a little more and discovered that a basic 
 version of the Read Iris Pro OCR software is included with the HP 8500 
 software you get quite a big discount with the upgrade to Read Iris Pro offer 
 so I've taken advantage of that.
 
 On my simple tests of OCR documents here the basic version of Read Iris 
 seemed to perform quite well which wasn't surprising as I've used the Read 
 Iris software before though not for quite some time.
 
 I would imagine that a version for Mac is also installed if you take the 
 route of installing the HP 8500 Mac software and I would therefor assume that 
 a version of Read Iris Pro upgrade is also available for the mac though ow 
 accessible that is? Well that's another question to be answered perhaps on 
 another day smile.
 
 
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