Re: [Tex-music] Jazz typesetting

2015-03-12 Thread Don Simons
I give up

> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Don
> Simons
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 10:21 PM
> To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive'
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Jazz typesetting
> 
> Typo alert: It should read
> 
> Add the following two lines to psfonts.map:
> 
> JazzText-Regular JazzText-Regular  Regular  
> and let's hope the line break comes in the right place this time around.
I'm
> sure TeX wouldn't be very forgiving if it didn't.
> >

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Re: [Tex-music] Jazz typesetting

2015-03-12 Thread Don Simons
Typo alert: It should read

Add the following two lines to psfonts.map:

JazzText-Regular JazzText-Regular 
> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Don
> Simons
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 8:50 PM
> To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive'
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Jazz typesetting
> 
> In light of the three positive responses I received, I do plan to write up
some
> instructions and make the necessary TeX macros available. But there are
> major copyright questions about the fonts I used. So I'll try to explain
below
> what I did to get them installed, but I won't be able to provide the font
files
> themselves...I'll just have to ask interested folks to go through the
steps I did
> to find the font definition files, generate the files that are needed by
TeX,
> and install them in a TeX setup.
> 
> There are two fonts you'll need, JazzText-Regular and Jazz-Regular. You
can
> google to find the .ttf files. If you download and install fontforge, you
can
> then use that to generate .pfb and .tfm files.  I didn't need to change
any of
> the defaults, but see the note below. Put those files into the right
places in
> your TeX setup. Add the following lines to psfonts.map:
> 
> JazzText-Regular JazzText-Regular  Regular  
> (You can find the map file by opening a command window and typing
> kpsewhich psfonts.map. There are sexier ways to modify the map file which
> are supposed to be better if you upgrade your TeX installation, but they
> didn't work for
> me.) Of course, as always, you need to update the TeX filename database.
> 
> Please let me know privately if you try this and have any problems.
> Meanwhile I'll be working on the documentation.
> 
> I think there is a limitation with making the files as I just
described...I don't
> think any postscript or pdf files containing the fonts will work on any
system
> that doesn't have the fonts installed. If that's a problem for you, again
please
> contact me privately.
> 
> --Don Simons
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Don Simons [mailto:dsim...@roadrunner.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 5:09 PM
> > To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive'
> > Subject: Jazz typesetting
> >
> > I have recently assembled macros and--with lots of help from Bob
> > Tennent-- fonts, that let me do a pretty decent job of emulating the
> > appearance of a jazz fake book. Here's an example:
> > http://www.pchpublish.com/bbbxv/newdonbook.pdf
> > which incidentally contains the six jazz tunes I've written over the
> years. I
> > used PMX for this (of course) but there are no changes to PMX, rather,
> > they're all in the form of new TeX macros mainly to define the fonts
> > and
> do
> > the chord symbols.
> >
> > I have not invested the effort of posting the new tex files,
> > documenting
> how
> > to use them, or modifying PMX to make it easier to use them. I'd
> > certainly
> be
> > willing to do the first two and get to work on the 3rd if I knew for
> > sure
> there
> > was anyone else out there who would use them. So if you are out there,
> > post something on this list to let me know.
> >
> > --Don Simons
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [Tex-music] Jazz typesetting

2015-03-12 Thread Don Simons
In light of the three positive responses I received, I do plan to write up
some instructions and make the necessary TeX macros available. But there are
major copyright questions about the fonts I used. So I'll try to explain
below what I did to get them installed, but I won't be able to provide the
font files themselves...I'll just have to ask interested folks to go through
the steps I did to find the font definition files, generate the files that
are needed by TeX, and install them in a TeX setup. 

There are two fonts you'll need, JazzText-Regular and Jazz-Regular. You can
google to find the .ttf files. If you download and install fontforge, you
can then use that to generate .pfb and .tfm files.  I didn't need to change
any of the defaults, but see the note below. Put those files into the right
places in your TeX setup. Add the following lines to psfonts.map:

JazzText-Regular JazzText-Regular  -Original Message-
> From: Don Simons [mailto:dsim...@roadrunner.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 5:09 PM
> To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive'
> Subject: Jazz typesetting
> 
> I have recently assembled macros and--with lots of help from Bob Tennent--
> fonts, that let me do a pretty decent job of emulating the appearance of a
> jazz fake book. Here's an example:
> http://www.pchpublish.com/bbbxv/newdonbook.pdf
> which incidentally contains the six jazz tunes I've written over the
years. I
> used PMX for this (of course) but there are no changes to PMX, rather,
> they're all in the form of new TeX macros mainly to define the fonts and
do
> the chord symbols.
> 
> I have not invested the effort of posting the new tex files, documenting
how
> to use them, or modifying PMX to make it easier to use them. I'd certainly
be
> willing to do the first two and get to work on the 3rd if I knew for sure
there
> was anyone else out there who would use them. So if you are out there,
> post something on this list to let me know.
> 
> --Don Simons
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Tex-music] [TeX-music] using MusiXTeX with TeXnicCenter

2015-03-12 Thread David Allsopp
On 12 Mar 2015, at 15:49, Julian M mailto:morei...@msn.com>> 
wrote:

Thank you for your response Dieter. As Bob said, my problem wasn't connected to 
the using of MusiXTeX itself, but rather its installation. And Bob patiently 
helped me solve them :) However, I'll take a look at PMX!
Bob: The using of a 32bits program on a 64bits windows system is usually not a 
problem, is it? (unless Miktex is a well known exception?)

There is always potential for trouble running 32 bit software under 64 bit 
Windows - when you run a 32 bit program, you are, to a reasonable 
simplification, running it in a separate copy of Windows (see 
C:\Windows\SYSWOW64 vs C:\WINDOWS\system32 - though confusingly the former is 
your 32 bit software and the latter your 64 bit software!)

In general, if a 64 bit version of a product is available, you should use it - 
if you should be breaking that rule, you'll already know why (if you see what I 
mean!)

HTH,


David


Julian

> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:07:55 -0400
> From: r...@cs.queensu.ca
> To: tex-music@tug.org
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] [TeX-music] using MusiXTeX with TeXnicCenter
>
> >|when you are new to using MusiXTeX, why don't you have a
> >|look at PMX?
>
> Dieter: Julian wasn't having problems with MusiXTeX
> commands. His problems (resolved off-list) were:
>
> + using 32bit MiKTeX on a 64bit Windows system
>
> + using etex rather than latex for a latex score
>
> + using blank lines in the middle of a score
>
>
> >|PMX is a very comprehensive and readable input language for a program
> >|called PMXAB.EXE, which then generates MusixTeX input.
> >|
> >|You will find an excellent introduction to PMX by C.C. Noack under
> >|icking-music-archive.org/software/*pmx*/*pmx*ccn.pdf
> > .
> >|
> >|The creator of PMX is Don Simons and can be reached via this mailing list.
> >|
> >| For access to the Software please look under/
> >|/
> >|/http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmxab.html/ .
>
> That's an html version of the man page.
> Installation instructions for MiKTeX users are at
>
> http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/Getting_Started_Four_Scenar.html
>
> i.e.,
>
> Find the relevant MiKTeX package manager in the Start
> menu; click on it. A window listing thousands of MiKTeX
> package opens. Enter "musixtex" into the Name field and
> click on Filter. Click on Select All in the Edit menu so
> that both packages are highlighted and click on the + sign
> (for "add"). Then repeat this process for "pmx" and "m-tx"
> (selecting only packages not yet installed).
>
> Bob T.
>
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Re: [Tex-music] [TeX-music] using MusiXTeX with TeXnicCenter

2015-03-12 Thread Bob Tennent
 >|Bob: The using of a 32bits program on a 64bits windows
 >|system is usually not a problem, is it? (unless Miktex is a well known
 >|exception?)

Julian: I've heard that there can be problems but don't know
whether MiKTeX (or specific commands in MiKTeX or specific
versions of Windows) are problematic. I only have 32bit
Windows 7 systems available to me. Perhaps someone with
experience could comment.

Bob T.
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Re: [Tex-music] [TeX-music] using MusiXTeX with TeXnicCenter

2015-03-12 Thread Julian M
Thank you for your response Dieter. As Bob said, my problem wasn't connected to 
the using of MusiXTeX itself, but rather its installation. And Bob patiently 
helped me solve them :) However, I'll take a look at PMX!Bob: The using of a 
32bits program on a 64bits windows system is usually not a problem, is it? 
(unless Miktex is a well known exception?)
Julian

> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:07:55 -0400
> From: r...@cs.queensu.ca
> To: tex-music@tug.org
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] [TeX-music] using MusiXTeX with TeXnicCenter
> 
>  >|when you are new to using MusiXTeX, why don't you have a
>  >|look at PMX?
> 
> Dieter: Julian wasn't having problems with MusiXTeX
> commands. His problems (resolved off-list) were:
> 
>   + using 32bit MiKTeX on a 64bit Windows system
> 
>   + using etex rather than latex for a latex score
>   
>   + using blank lines in the middle of a score
> 
> 
>  >|PMX is a very comprehensive and readable input language for a program
>  >|called PMXAB.EXE, which then generates MusixTeX input.
>  >|
>  >|You will find an excellent introduction to PMX by C.C. Noack under
>  >|icking-music-archive.org/software/*pmx*/*pmx*ccn.pdf .
>  >|
>  >|The creator of PMX is Don Simons and can be reached via this mailing list.
>  >|
>  >|  For access to the Software please look under/
>  >|/
>  >|/http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmxab.html/ .
> 
> That's an html version of the man page. 
> Installation instructions for MiKTeX users are at
> 
> http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/Getting_Started_Four_Scenar.html
> 
> i.e., 
> 
>   Find the relevant MiKTeX package manager in the Start
>   menu; click on it. A window listing thousands of MiKTeX
>   package opens. Enter "musixtex" into the Name field and
>   click on Filter. Click on Select All in the Edit menu so
>   that both packages are highlighted and click on the + sign
>   (for "add"). Then repeat this process for "pmx" and "m-tx"
>   (selecting only packages not yet installed).
> 
> Bob T.
> 
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Re: [Tex-music] [TeX-music] using MusiXTeX with TeXnicCenter

2015-03-12 Thread Bob Tennent
 >|when you are new to using MusiXTeX, why don't you have a
 >|look at PMX?

Dieter: Julian wasn't having problems with MusiXTeX
commands. His problems (resolved off-list) were:

  + using 32bit MiKTeX on a 64bit Windows system

  + using etex rather than latex for a latex score
  
  + using blank lines in the middle of a score


 >|PMX is a very comprehensive and readable input language for a program
 >|called PMXAB.EXE, which then generates MusixTeX input.
 >|
 >|You will find an excellent introduction to PMX by C.C. Noack under
 >|icking-music-archive.org/software/*pmx*/*pmx*ccn.pdf .
 >|
 >|The creator of PMX is Don Simons and can be reached via this mailing list.
 >|
 >|  For access to the Software please look under/
 >|/
 >|/http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmxab.html/ .

That's an html version of the man page. 

Installation instructions for MiKTeX users are at

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/Getting_Started_Four_Scenar.html

i.e., 

  Find the relevant MiKTeX package manager in the Start
  menu; click on it. A window listing thousands of MiKTeX
  package opens. Enter "musixtex" into the Name field and
  click on Filter. Click on Select All in the Edit menu so
  that both packages are highlighted and click on the + sign
  (for "add"). Then repeat this process for "pmx" and "m-tx"
  (selecting only packages not yet installed).

Bob T.

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Re: [Tex-music] [TeX-music] using MusiXTeX with TeXnicCenter

2015-03-12 Thread Dieter

Dear Julian,

when you are new to using MusiXTeX, why don't you have a look at PMX? 
PMX is a very comprehensive and readable input language for a program 
called PMXAB.EXE, which then generates MusixTeX input.



You will find an excellent introduction to PMX by C.C. Noack under
icking-music-archive.org/software/*pmx*/*pmx*ccn.pdf .

The creator of PMX is Don Simons and can be reached via this mailing list.

 For access to the Software please look under/
/
/http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmxab.html/ .
Regards,
D. Glötzel


Am 11.03.2015 um 13:46 schrieb Julian M:

Dear all,
I'm a new user of MusiXTeX. For few days, I've been writing very small scores, 
using the musixtex package and my usual compiler pdflatex, with no major 
problem.But then I realized that I couldn't have a proper layout for bigger 
scores,  and I learned about the existence of themusixtexcompiler (which 
embeds, if I understand well, a three steps process, etex, musixflx and etex 
again) . However, using the IDE TeXnicCenter for a long time, I don't know how 
to configure it with this compiler.I know can define output profiles, i.e., 
specifying a compiler, pre and post-processors.
Here I attached "latex.png", a copy of the output profiles window, configured 
for my normal use of latex.
"latex2.png" is the same window but configured for musixtex. The changes are minors, 
mainly, the path to the latex compiler is different, and I don't know what to write in the box 
"command line arguments to pass to the compiler". If I let the same than for pdflatex, 
here is what I get from the console when I try to build my file :
musixtex> This is musixtex.lua version 0.9
musixtex> Non-existent file: -max-print-line=120.tex
musixtex> Non-existent file: -interaction=non-stopmode.tex
musixtex> Processing myscore.tex
musixtex> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6- (MiXTeX 2.9)
musixtex> entering extended mode
musixtex> (myscore.tex
musixtex> ! Undefined control sequence.
musixtex> l.1 \documentclass
musixtex>   [10pt, a4paper]{article}
musixtex> ? etex: Bad file descriptor
musixtex> Musixtex processing of myscore.tex fails.

What I understand from this is that arguments used with pdflatex are useless with 
musixtex, and that etex in unable to read my file because some "file 
descriptors" are bad...I guess I simply have to change the compiler arguments, but I 
really don't know what to give him!
Does anyone can help me about this?
Thanks a lot,
Julian Moreira
musixtex> Non-existent file: -max-print-line=120.tex


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Re: [Tex-music] [TeX-music] using MusiXTeX with TeXnicCenter

2015-03-12 Thread Bob Tennent
 >|However, I have this error, building my file:musixtex>
 >|Processing C:\Users\...\myScore.texmusixtex> etex:
 >|Invalid command-line optionmusixtex> etex: Data:
 >|unknown optionmusixtex> Musixtex processing of
 >|C:\Users\...\myScore.tex fails It makes me think it's
 >|worse than before, as now etex doesn't even enter the
 >|file...As before, I attach you an image of my output
 >|profile window, just in case.Sorry about this noob
 >|problem...should we do this in private messages?

Julian: I don't understand the error messages but you should
tick "Do not use BibTeX" and "Do not use MakeIndex" in the
profile.  Does that help?

Bob T.

P.S. I notice that the path for musixtex.exe starts at
"Program Files (x86)". I hope you didn't install MiKTeX for
32bit systems on a 64bit system.


 >|> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 10:29:42 -0400
 >|> From: r...@cs.queensu.ca
 >|> To: tex-music@tug.org
 >|> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] [TeX-music] using MusiXTeX with TeXnicCenter
 >|>
 >|>  >|Dear all,I'm a new user of MusiXTeX. For few days, I've
 >|>  >|been writing very small scores, using the musixtex
 >|>  >|package and my usual compiler pdflatex, with no major
 >|>  >|problem. But then I realized that I couldn't have a
 >|>  >|proper layout for bigger scores, and I learned about the
 >|>  >|existence of the musixtex compiler (which embeds, if I
 >|>  >|understand well, a three steps process, etex, musixflx
 >|>  >|and etex again) . However, using the IDE TeXnicCenter
 >|>  >|for a long time, I don't know how to configure it with
 >|>  >|this compiler. I know can define output profiles, i.e.,
 >|>  >|specifying a compiler, pre and post-processors.
 >|>
 >|> Julian: Just use "musixtex" as the TeX processor and "Main
 >|> file's full path without extension" as the command line
 >|> argument in a "MusiXTeX => PDF" output profile.
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