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[Tex-music] Success! (was RE: Uploading to IMSLP?????)

2021-12-28 Thread dsimons

The IMSLP cabal has accepted my 3 Telemann editions exactly as I uploaded them, 
with 3 files on one page called “Scores (3)”

https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann,_Georg_Philipp) 

I did manage to add the WIMA attribution to the Misc. notes for that page.

If my editions, containing score+parts, are appropriately located on the 
“Scores” page, it sure seems to me that the 6 editions now on the “Arrangements 
and Transcriptions” page should also be on the “Scores” page. Exactly like my 
editions, each of them is simply a typeset with appropriate editing of one of 
GPT’s pieces using one of his 4 recommended combinations of instruments, in 
that case using just the flute, violin, and B.C. parts (while mine used the 
flute and harpsichord parts). Like mine, each file has a score and parts. 
Unlike mine, the score does include a written out continuo part, but aside from 
that, they’re just typeset directly from GPT’s facsimiles of 3 of the 4 parts. 
They are NOT arrangements or transcriptions, because they haven’t changed the 
original. My 2 cents.

--Don Simons

From: TeX-Music  On Behalf Of 
Bob Tennent
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 9:17 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?

Don:  Do it now and you'll only need to edit one page.  If they create three 
new work pages you'll have to edit three pages :+)

Bob

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:47 AM mailto:dsim...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

Thanks, Christian. I find the IMSLP upload process incredibly complicated and 
not at all intuitive. I'm crossing my fingers that the site editors will create 
extra pages and move things around like they want. If and when that happens, or 
if they send me explicit instructions about what to do and how to do it, I'll 
go back and mark them as part of the WIMA collection.

--Don

> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music   >
> On Behalf Of Christian Mondrup
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 7:20 AM
> To: tex-music@tug.org  
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> 
> Den 28.12.2021 kl. 13.37 skrev Bob Tennent:
> > IMSLP may decide that the score+parts for the individual concerts
> > should be located in separate pages as they are not really organized
> > as a "collection".  But then there should be links to those concert
> > pages in the General Information section. An arrangement of Concert 1
> > (TWV 42:D6) is already linked that way.
> 
> An example on distributing single pieces from a collection to separate IMSLP
> work pages could be 'Newe Weinacht Liedlein mit 4 und 8 Stimmen'
> by Leonard Schröter
> 
> https://imslp.org/wiki/Newe_Weinacht_Liedlein_mit_4_und_8_Stimmen_(
> Schr%C3%B6ter%2C_Leonhard)
> 
> If you select the menu item 'Page->Edit' you can see how to create
> references from the collection work page to the work pages of the single
> pieces.
> 
> I encourage marking PMX/MusiXTeX editions like this as members of IMSLP's
> Werner Icking Collection. You do that by adding the IMSLP template
> 
> {{WIMAProject}}
> 
> to the 'Misc. Notes' field
> 
> Best wishes
> --
> Christian Mondrup
> WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
> http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files
> 
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

2021-12-28 Thread Bob Tennent

Don:  Do it now and you'll only need to edit one page.  If they create
three new work pages you'll have to edit three pages :+)

Bob

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:47 AM  wrote:

> Thanks, Christian. I find the IMSLP upload process incredibly complicated
> and not at all intuitive. I'm crossing my fingers that the site editors
> will create extra pages and move things around like they want. If and when
> that happens, or if they send me explicit instructions about what to do and
> how to do it, I'll go back and mark them as part of the WIMA collection.
>
> --Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music 
> > On Behalf Of Christian Mondrup
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 7:20 AM
> > To: tex-music@tug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> >
> > Den 28.12.2021 kl. 13.37 skrev Bob Tennent:
> > > IMSLP may decide that the score+parts for the individual concerts
> > > should be located in separate pages as they are not really organized
> > > as a "collection".  But then there should be links to those concert
> > > pages in the General Information section. An arrangement of Concert 1
> > > (TWV 42:D6) is already linked that way.
> >
> > An example on distributing single pieces from a collection to separate
> IMSLP
> > work pages could be 'Newe Weinacht Liedlein mit 4 und 8 Stimmen'
> > by Leonard Schröter
> >
> > https://imslp.org/wiki/Newe_Weinacht_Liedlein_mit_4_und_8_Stimmen_(
> > Schr%C3%B6ter%2C_Leonhard)
> >
> > If you select the menu item 'Page->Edit' you can see how to create
> > references from the collection work page to the work pages of the single
> > pieces.
> >
> > I encourage marking PMX/MusiXTeX editions like this as members of IMSLP's
> > Werner Icking Collection. You do that by adding the IMSLP template
> >
> > {{WIMAProject}}
> >
> > to the 'Misc. Notes' field
> >
> > Best wishes
> > --
> > Christian Mondrup
> > WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
> > http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files
> >
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Re: [Tex-music] Indentation

2021-12-28 Thread dsimons

Thanks, Hiroaki. That works, and seems to have the same effect in this case
as simply replacing \contpiece with \startpiece: preserves the key change
warning before the page turn, properly indents the second page, and resets
the bar numbering. Are you saying there is something different?

> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music 
> On Behalf Of Hiroaki MORIMOTO
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 6:04 AM
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Indentation
> 
> Hi Don,
> 
> How about "\barno\startbarno\Contpiece" instead of "\contpiece" ?
> 
> ==
> D:\lcpb>diff -u1 lcpb.tex lcpb_modified.tex
> --- lcpb.texTue Dec 28 22:52:10 2021
> +++ lcpb_modified.tex   Tue Dec 28 22:54:20 2021
> @@ -49,3 +49,3 @@
>  \vfill\eject%
> -\interstaff{10.0}\contpiece
> +\interstaff{10.0}\barno\startbarno\Contpiece
>  \generalmeter{\meterfrac{2}{4}}%
> ==
> 
> (\startpiece internally calls \piece@begina, where \barno is set to
> \startbarno.  The value of \startbarno is set to 1 in usual at
musixtex.tex 1.32
> line 2171.)
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Hiroaki
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: 
> > To: "'Werner Icking Music Archive'" 
> > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 21:02:17 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Indentation
> >
> >
> > No, because using "M" removes the key change warning before the page
> turn.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: TeX-Music  bounces+dsimons=roadrunner@tug.org>
> > > On Behalf Of a...@telenet.be
> > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:36 PM
> > > To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' 
> > > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Indentation
> > >
> > > Is this also a possibility?
> > > Andre
> > > ==
> > > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > > 2 6 20 .1
> > >
> > > t
> > > .\
> > > g04 g | g g | g g RD /
> > > %\\\let\holdcont\contpiece\def\contpiece{\startpiece\let\contpiece\h
> > > oldc
> > > ont}
> > > \
> > > K+0+1
> > > L4P2Mi.1
> > > m2424
> > > g24 g g g g g /
> > > ===
> > >
> > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> > > Van: TeX-Music  Namens
> > > dsim...@roadrunner.com
> > > Verzonden: maandag 27 december 2021 17:41
> > > Aan: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' 
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Tex-music] Indentation
> > >
> > > Thanks, Hiroaki. I didn't know about \Contpiece either. But after my
> > > post,
> > I
> > > figured out that \startpiece also does the job. And now I realize
> > > that for
> > my
> > > purpose I wanted the bar numbering also to be reset to 1, which
> > \startpiece
> > > does. So to do it in PMX, you can use the redefinition trick:
> > >
> > > ===
> > > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > > 2 6 20 .1
> > >
> > > t
> > > .\
> > > g04 g | g g | g g RD /
> > > \\\let\holdcont\contpiece\def\contpiece{\startpiece\let\contpiece\ho
> > > ldcon
> > > t}\
> > > K+0+1
> > > L4P2
> > > m2424
> > > g24 g g g g g /
> > > 
> > >
> > > --Don
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: TeX-Music  > > bounces+dsimons=roadrunner@tug.org>
> > > > On Behalf Of Hiroaki MORIMOTO
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 6:21 AM
> > > > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Indentation
> > > >
> > > > Hi Don,
> > > >
> > > > Possibly, \Contpiece instead of \contpiece ??
> > > >
> > > > I found it in musixtex.tex 1.32 line 2231-2236 and musixdoc.pdf
> > > > Version
> > > 1.32a
> > > > Chapter 14; but this is the first time I've known the existence of
> > > \Contpiece...
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Hiroaki
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: 
> > > > > To: "'Werner Icking Music Archive'" 
> > > > > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 17:30:33 -0800
> > > > > Subject: [Tex-music] Indentation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone suggest a simple modification, either to the PMX
> > > > > source (see
> > > > > below) or by modifying the resulting TeX (attached), to cause
> > > > > the first system on the 2nd page to be indented exactly the same
> > > > > as the first one in the first page.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Don Simons
> > > > >
> > > > > PMX source:
> > > > > ===
> > > > > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > > > > 2 6 20 .1
> > > > >
> > > > > t
> > > > > .\
> > > > > g04 g | g g | g g RD /
> > > > > K+0+1
> > > > > m2424
> > > > > g24 g g g g g /
> > > > > ==
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - inline -
> > > > > ---
> > > > > TeX-music@tug.org mailing list
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

2021-12-28 Thread dsimons

Thanks, Christian. I find the IMSLP upload process incredibly complicated and 
not at all intuitive. I'm crossing my fingers that the site editors will create 
extra pages and move things around like they want. If and when that happens, or 
if they send me explicit instructions about what to do and how to do it, I'll 
go back and mark them as part of the WIMA collection.

--Don

> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music 
> On Behalf Of Christian Mondrup
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 7:20 AM
> To: tex-music@tug.org
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
> 
> Den 28.12.2021 kl. 13.37 skrev Bob Tennent:
> > IMSLP may decide that the score+parts for the individual concerts
> > should be located in separate pages as they are not really organized
> > as a "collection".  But then there should be links to those concert
> > pages in the General Information section. An arrangement of Concert 1
> > (TWV 42:D6) is already linked that way.
> 
> An example on distributing single pieces from a collection to separate IMSLP
> work pages could be 'Newe Weinacht Liedlein mit 4 und 8 Stimmen'
> by Leonard Schröter
> 
> https://imslp.org/wiki/Newe_Weinacht_Liedlein_mit_4_und_8_Stimmen_(
> Schr%C3%B6ter%2C_Leonhard)
> 
> If you select the menu item 'Page->Edit' you can see how to create
> references from the collection work page to the work pages of the single
> pieces.
> 
> I encourage marking PMX/MusiXTeX editions like this as members of IMSLP's
> Werner Icking Collection. You do that by adding the IMSLP template
> 
> {{WIMAProject}}
> 
> to the 'Misc. Notes' field
> 
> Best wishes
> --
> Christian Mondrup
> WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
> http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files
> 
> ---
> TeX-music@tug.org mailing list
> If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to
> https://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music


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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

2021-12-28 Thread Christian Mondrup


Den 28.12.2021 kl. 13.37 skrev Bob Tennent:
IMSLP may decide that the score+parts for the individual concerts should 
be located in separate pages as they are not really organized as a 
"collection".  But then there should be links to those concert pages in 
the General Information section. An arrangement of Concert 1 (TWV 42:D6) 
is already linked that way.


An example on distributing single pieces from a collection to separate 
IMSLP work pages could be 'Newe Weinacht Liedlein mit 4 und 8 Stimmen' 
by Leonard Schröter


https://imslp.org/wiki/Newe_Weinacht_Liedlein_mit_4_und_8_Stimmen_(Schr%C3%B6ter%2C_Leonhard)

If you select the menu item 'Page->Edit' you can see how to create 
references from the collection work page to the work pages of the single 
pieces.


I encourage marking PMX/MusiXTeX editions like this as members of 
IMSLP's Werner Icking Collection. You do that by adding the IMSLP template


{{WIMAProject}}

to the 'Misc. Notes' field

Best wishes
--
Christian Mondrup
WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files

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Re: [Tex-music] Indentation

2021-12-28 Thread Hiroaki MORIMOTO

Hi Don,

How about "\barno\startbarno\Contpiece" instead of "\contpiece" ?

==
D:\lcpb>diff -u1 lcpb.tex lcpb_modified.tex
--- lcpb.texTue Dec 28 22:52:10 2021
+++ lcpb_modified.tex   Tue Dec 28 22:54:20 2021
@@ -49,3 +49,3 @@
 \vfill\eject%
-\interstaff{10.0}\contpiece
+\interstaff{10.0}\barno\startbarno\Contpiece
 \generalmeter{\meterfrac{2}{4}}%
==

(\startpiece internally calls \piece@begina, where \barno is 
set to \startbarno.  The value of \startbarno is set to 1 in usual 
at musixtex.tex 1.32 line 2171.)


Best regards,
Hiroaki


- Original Message -
> From: 
> To: "'Werner Icking Music Archive'" 
> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 21:02:17 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Indentation
> 
> 
> No, because using "M" removes the key change warning before the page turn.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TeX-Music 
> > On Behalf Of a...@telenet.be
> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:36 PM
> > To: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' 
> > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Indentation
> > 
> > Is this also a possibility?
> > Andre
> > ==
> > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > 2 6 20 .1
> > 
> > t
> > .\
> > g04 g | g g | g g RD /
> > %\\\let\holdcont\contpiece\def\contpiece{\startpiece\let\contpiece\holdc
> > ont}
> > \
> > K+0+1
> > L4P2Mi.1
> > m2424
> > g24 g g g g g /
> > ===
> > 
> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> > Van: TeX-Music  Namens
> > dsim...@roadrunner.com
> > Verzonden: maandag 27 december 2021 17:41
> > Aan: 'Werner Icking Music Archive' 
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Tex-music] Indentation
> > 
> > Thanks, Hiroaki. I didn't know about \Contpiece either. But after my post,
> I
> > figured out that \startpiece also does the job. And now I realize that for
> my
> > purpose I wanted the bar numbering also to be reset to 1, which
> \startpiece
> > does. So to do it in PMX, you can use the redefinition trick:
> > 
> > ===
> > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > 2 6 20 .1
> > 
> > t
> > .\
> > g04 g | g g | g g RD /
> > \\\let\holdcont\contpiece\def\contpiece{\startpiece\let\contpiece\holdcon
> > t}\
> > K+0+1
> > L4P2
> > m2424
> > g24 g g g g g /
> > 
> > 
> > --Don
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: TeX-Music  > bounces+dsimons=roadrunner@tug.org>
> > > On Behalf Of Hiroaki MORIMOTO
> > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 6:21 AM
> > > To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> > > Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Indentation
> > >
> > > Hi Don,
> > >
> > > Possibly, \Contpiece instead of \contpiece ??
> > >
> > > I found it in musixtex.tex 1.32 line 2231-2236 and musixdoc.pdf
> > > Version
> > 1.32a
> > > Chapter 14; but this is the first time I've known the existence of
> > \Contpiece...
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Hiroaki
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: 
> > > > To: "'Werner Icking Music Archive'" 
> > > > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 17:30:33 -0800
> > > > Subject: [Tex-music] Indentation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone suggest a simple modification, either to the PMX source
> > > > (see
> > > > below) or by modifying the resulting TeX (attached), to cause the
> > > > first system on the 2nd page to be indented exactly the same as the
> > > > first one in the first page.
> > > >
> > > > --Don Simons
> > > >
> > > > PMX source:
> > > > ===
> > > > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > > > 2 6 20 .1
> > > >
> > > > t
> > > > .\
> > > > g04 g | g g | g g RD /
> > > > K+0+1
> > > > m2424
> > > > g24 g g g g g /
> > > > ==
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - inline -
> > > > ---
> > > > TeX-music@tug.org mailing list
> > > > If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to
> > > > https://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
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Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?????

2021-12-28 Thread Bob Tennent

IMSLP may decide that the score+parts for the individual concerts should be
located in separate pages as they are not really organized as a
"collection".  But then there should be links to those concert pages in the
General Information section. An arrangement of Concert 1 (TWV 42:D6) is
already linked that way.

Bob

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 11:09 PM  wrote:

> Thanks, Bob. I signed out and signed back in with a different user name
> (evidently I have two) and then the magic “add files” link appeared. Now
> we’ll see whether they accept the uploads. I was forced to choose between
> “score” and “parts”, but I provided both, and wound up combining them into
> a single pdf for each of the 3 “concerts”.
>
>
>
> BTW, these editions should prove to be of great interest to any
> harpsichordist and baroque flutist, as those two instruments alone form one
> of the 4 possible combinations that Telemann himself certified to play
> these trio sonatas, and he didn’t just slap together the bass line and the 2
> nd treble part but took the trouble to produce a complete, separate
> harpsichord part.
>
>
>
> --Don
>
>
>
> *From:* TeX-Music  *On
> Behalf Of *Bob Tennent
> *Sent:* Monday, December 27, 2021 5:54 PM
> *To:* Werner Icking Music Archive 
> *Subject:* Re: [Tex-music] Uploading to IMSLP?
>
>
>
> >  I can’t find any “add new file” links on that page
>
>
>
> Near the top on the right-hand side directly across from 6 Concerts et 6
> Suites (Telemann, Georg Philipp).
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 8:04 PM  wrote:
>
> I have typeset parts and scores for the flute+harpsichord versions of 3
> “concerts” from Telemann’s “6 Concerts et 6 Suites”. I want to upload them
> to IMSLP. I’ve hit a brick wall, and can’t even get started. None of the 12
> pieces seem to have links from the list of Compositions, but this link is
> listed under Collections:
> https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concerts_et_6_Suites_(Telemann%2C_Georg_Philipp)
> . I’ve evidently successfully logged in to IMSLP, but can’t get any further
> because I can’t find any “add new file” links on that page or anywhere
> else. Can anyone tell me how to proceed?
>
>
>
> Don Simons
>
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