Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani
Hmmm 
The project is producing size a5 booklets (~4 ... 12 pages) with songs etc. for 
a service. Means mix of text and music.The first time I used noteedit which 
produces musixtex-code an combined this code with my texts.But noteedit does 
not run anymore on my computer :-(Than I found nted which is also nice to input 
music. But nted does not export musixtex.
Now I am looking to frescobaldi. Maybe I can do the whole job in lilypond. 
However although I am TeX-user since 1989 I prefer to do the first pass of 
creating music using a gui. But in the 2nd path I prefer to change tex code.
Hans Friedrich



  Von: Bob Tennent 
 An: HF. Steffani  
CC: Werner Icking Music Archive 
 Gesendet: 23:04 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
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>|>To get back to the original question. Does anyone know
 >|>some other way to get pmx, m-tx or tex from nted?

There are many gui-based score editors which export to
musicxml; why are you insisting on using nted, which
doesn't? And if you are so keen on a gui-based score editor,
why do you need to convert to pmx?

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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani
Hello all,
the extra flat is in the xml produced by frescobaldi.
To get back to the original question. Does anyone know some other way to get 
pmx, m-tx or tex from nted?

Hans Friedrich


  Von: Urs Liska 
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive ; Bob Tennent 
; HF. Steffani  
 Gesendet: 21:35 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
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Am 22. Februar 2017 21:25:02 MEZ schrieb Bob Tennent :
> >|my piece is in f-dur (one flat) and after all I've a flat
> >|at the beginn of the line (ok) and before every b (not
> >|ok).
>
>You'll have to report issues to the frescobaldi developers,
>not to us.  Unless the problem is with XML2PMX or pmx.

Or rather say a little more clearly *where* you have these extra flats (in the 
LilyPond code, the exported MusicXML, some consuming application, ...)

For all the experimentality, this doesn't really look like a typical case of 
the exporter's limitations.

Urs

>
>Bob T.
>
> >|>|I am using frescobaldi 2.19.0, but there is no export to xml :-(
> >|
> >|It's an "experimental feature".  Enable these in Preferences.
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani
Thanks now it works (after restart). However my piece is in f-dur (one flat) 
and after all I've a flat at the beginn of the line (ok) and before every b 
(not ok).

Hans Friedrich
  Von: Bob Tennent 
 An: HF. Steffani  
CC: Werner Icking Music Archive 
 Gesendet: 21:04 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
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>|I am using frescobaldi 2.19.0, but there is no export to xml :-(

It's an "experimental feature".  Enable these in Preferences.

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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani
I am using frescobaldi 2.19.0, but there is no export to xml :-(
Hans Friedrich
  Von: Bob Tennent 
 An: HF. Steffani  
CC: Werner Icking Music Archive 
 Gesendet: 6:37 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   
>|although maybe off topic:I am using nted
 >|(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nte
 >|d.xhtml ) but I need some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex
 >|output.Does someone know a sensible workflow?nted is able
 >|to produce midi and lilypond files.

I believe the frescobaldi editor for lilypond files will
export to musicxml. I'd guess that this is a better route
than going via midi.

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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani
Sorry for the mini mails. 

XML2PMX seems also to work, when the XML und PMX folder are not in the same 
location as the executable. (Linux environment)
Hans Friedrich


  Von: Dieter 
 An: tex-music@tug.org 
 Gesendet: 9:24 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   
 Hello Hans Friedrich,
 
 your XML and PMX folders should be subfolders of the folder which contains the 
executable.
 And then the command file for the example is:
 ./XML2PMX "./XML/Telemann.xml" "./PMX/Telemann.pmx" ""
 The two double quotes at the end are required.
 
 But you can send me as well your XML file, and I will handle it for you. 
 
 Or you send me the stuff as pdf, and I will OCR-scan it to XML and then to PMX.
 
 I agree with Bob that Midi will cause information loss.
 
 Regards,
 Dieter
 
 Am 21.02.2017 um 21:44 schrieb HF. Steffani:
  
  Hello, 
  as a first try, I converterd my midi with rosegarden to xml. Than I tried 
xml2pmx, but this tells me 
  
 hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> ~/bin/XML2PMX_LINUX-170108/XML2PMX 
"./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml" "./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx" "dvs"
 
 ./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml
 ./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx
 DVS
  output control set :  1|    2|    3|
 This is XML2PMX Version 1.1 .
 Inputfile./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml not available.
 ===
  Sorted List of Tags hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> 
  
 What is wrong? Any ideas?
 
Thanks Hans Friedrich
  
Von: HF. Steffani 
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive  
 Gesendet: 21:07 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2017
 Betreff: nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
  
Hello, 
  although maybe off topic: I am using nted 
(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml ) but I need 
some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex output. Does someone know a sensible workflow? 
nted is able to produce midi and lilypond files. 
  Thanks 
  Hans Friedrich 
  
 
  
  
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani
Ok, its proved. XML2PMX does not like  underscore neither in the xml-file nor 
in the pmx-file.
Hans Friedrich

  Von: HF. Steffani 
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive  
 Gesendet: 20:18 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   
Hello,
thanks for responses. It seems that XML2PMX does not like underscores. Is this 
true? I deleted the underscores and things seem to be better.
Hans Friedrich

  Von: Dieter 
 An: tex-music@tug.org 
 Gesendet: 9:24 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
  
 Hello Hans Friedrich,
 
 your XML and PMX folders should be subfolders of the folder which contains the 
executable.
 And then the command file for the example is:
 ./XML2PMX "./XML/Telemann.xml" "./PMX/Telemann.pmx" ""
 The two double quotes at the end are required.
 
 But you can send me as well your XML file, and I will handle it for you. 
 
 Or you send me the stuff as pdf, and I will OCR-scan it to XML and then to PMX.
 
 I agree with Bob that Midi will cause information loss.
 
 Regards,
 Dieter
 
 Am 21.02.2017 um 21:44 schrieb HF. Steffani:
  
  Hello, 
  as a first try, I converterd my midi with rosegarden to xml. Than I tried 
xml2pmx, but this tells me 
  
 hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> ~/bin/XML2PMX_LINUX-170108/XML2PMX 
"./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml" "./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx" "dvs"
 
 ./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml
 ./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx
 DVS
  output control set :  1|    2|    3|
 This is XML2PMX Version 1.1 .
 Inputfile./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml not available.
 ===
  Sorted List of Tags hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> 
  
 What is wrong? Any ideas?
 
Thanks Hans Friedrich
  
Von: HF. Steffani 
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive  
 Gesendet: 21:07 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2017
 Betreff: nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
  
Hello, 
  although maybe off topic: I am using nted 
(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml ) but I need 
some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex output. Does someone know a sensible workflow? 
nted is able to produce midi and lilypond files. 
  Thanks 
  Hans Friedrich 
  
 
  
  
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-22 Thread HF. Steffani
Hello,
thanks for responses. It seems that XML2PMX does not like underscores. Is this 
true? I deleted the underscores and things seem to be better.
Hans Friedrich

  Von: Dieter 
 An: tex-music@tug.org 
 Gesendet: 9:24 Mittwoch, 22.Februar 2017
 Betreff: Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   
 Hello Hans Friedrich,
 
 your XML and PMX folders should be subfolders of the folder which contains the 
executable.
 And then the command file for the example is:
 ./XML2PMX "./XML/Telemann.xml" "./PMX/Telemann.pmx" ""
 The two double quotes at the end are required.
 
 But you can send me as well your XML file, and I will handle it for you. 
 
 Or you send me the stuff as pdf, and I will OCR-scan it to XML and then to PMX.
 
 I agree with Bob that Midi will cause information loss.
 
 Regards,
 Dieter
 
 Am 21.02.2017 um 21:44 schrieb HF. Steffani:
  
  Hello, 
  as a first try, I converterd my midi with rosegarden to xml. Than I tried 
xml2pmx, but this tells me 
  
 hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> ~/bin/XML2PMX_LINUX-170108/XML2PMX 
"./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml" "./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx" "dvs"
 
 ./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml
 ./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx
 DVS
  output control set :  1|    2|    3|
 This is XML2PMX Version 1.1 .
 Inputfile./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml not available.
 ===
  Sorted List of Tags hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> 
  
 What is wrong? Any ideas?
 
Thanks Hans Friedrich
  
Von: HF. Steffani 
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive  
 Gesendet: 21:07 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2017
 Betreff: nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
  
Hello, 
  although maybe off topic: I am using nted 
(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml ) but I need 
some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex output. Does someone know a sensible workflow? 
nted is able to produce midi and lilypond files. 
  Thanks 
  Hans Friedrich 
  
 
  
  
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-21 Thread HF. Steffani
Hello,
as a first try, I converterd my midi with rosegarden to xml. Than I tried 
xml2pmx, but this tells me 

hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> ~/bin/XML2PMX_LINUX-170108/XML2PMX 
"./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml" "./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx" "dvs"

./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml
./PMX/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.pmx
DVS
 output control set :  1|    2|    3|
This is XML2PMX Version 1.1 .
Inputfile./XML/Gott_baut_ein_Haus.xml not available.
===
 Sorted List of Tags hfst@linux-hzgh:~/noten/martha_kommunion> 

What is wrong? Any ideas?

ThanksHans Friedrich

  Von: HF. Steffani 
 An: Werner Icking Music Archive  
 Gesendet: 21:07 Dienstag, 21.Februar 2017
 Betreff: nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)
   
Hello,
although maybe off topic:I am using nted 
(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml ) but I need 
some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex output.Does someone know a sensible workflow?nted 
is able to produce midi and lilypond files.
Thanks 
Hans Friedrich


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[Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

2017-02-21 Thread HF. Steffani
Hello,
although maybe off topic:I am using nted 
(https://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml ) but I need 
some kind of pmx, m-tx or tex output.Does someone know a sensible workflow?nted 
is able to produce midi and lilypond files.
Thanks 
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Re: [Tex-music] Problem liturgics

2016-07-20 Thread HF. Steffani
Hello,
thanks for all your answers. I think that my main problem is, that | behaves 
different from Rd etc.
For this time I "solved" my problems by editing the tex-file produced by m-tx.
Hans Friedrich

      Von: HF. Steffani 
 An: Music TeX  
 Gesendet: 15:11 Freitag, 15.Juli 2016
 Betreff: Problem liturgics
   
Hello, I want to do something like this using m-tx:-snip-snap-Flats: 1
Meter: 0/4

   f2 ( d4 c4 ) Rd ( f4 g4 ) b2  g4 a4 Rd b2 ( a4 b4 ) c4 a4 Rd g2 f2
L: Ha-le  lu ja, Ha-le-lu-ja    Ha-le-lu-ja
-snip-snap-
but without the meter (4) and with single bar lines instead of the double bar 
lines.
Can anyone help?
Thanks 
Hans Friedrich



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Re: [Tex-music] Problem liturgics

2016-07-17 Thread HF. Steffani
Hello Oliver,
Meter: m4400 helps for the task to omit the time. But m-tx still assumes a 4/4 
and places the bar every 4 quarters. it ignores the |  
Hans Friedrich

Olivier Vogel  schrieb am 8:29 Samstag, 16.Juli 
2016:
 

 Is is what you want to achieve:

Flats: 1
Meter: m4400

f2 ( d4 c4 ) | ( f4 g4 ) b2 |  g4 a4 b2 | ( a4 b4 ) c4 a4 | g2 f2 |
L: Ha-le  lu ja, Ha-le-lu-ja    Ha-le-lu-ja

Olivier

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[Tex-music] Problem liturgics

2016-07-15 Thread HF. Steffani
Hello, I want to do something like this using m-tx:-snip-snap-Flats: 1
Meter: 0/4

   f2 ( d4 c4 ) Rd ( f4 g4 ) b2  g4 a4 Rd b2 ( a4 b4 ) c4 a4 Rd g2 f2
L: Ha-le  lu ja, Ha-le-lu-ja    Ha-le-lu-ja
-snip-snap-
but without the meter (4) and with single bar lines instead of the double bar 
lines.
Can anyone help?
Thanks 
Hans Friedrich

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Re: [Tex-music] PMX says "You entered "h" not at beginning of block"

2016-07-13 Thread HF. Steffani
Typical error of germans. I used h instead of b.
Good night.Hans Friedrich
 

HF. Steffani  schrieb am 21:34 Mittwoch, 13.Juli 2016:
 

 Hello,
I have a simple m-tx - file:--snip--snap--Style: SINGER
Flats: 1
Meter: 0/4

f2 d4 c4    f4 g4 f2 g4 a4   h2 a4 h4 c4 a4   g2 f2

--snip-snap--

m-tx -t 
displays:-snip-snap-This is m-tx.lua version 0.4.
Processing halleluja.mtx.
==> This is M-Tx 0.60d (Music from TeXt) <11 October 2008>
==>> Input from file halleluja.mtx
Writing to halleluja.pmx
PrePMX done.  Now run PMX.
 This is PMX, Version 2.7  , 3 Apr 13
 Opening halleluja.pmx

 Starting first PMX pass

  Bar 1
 Done with first pass


 Starting second PMX pass

 You entered "h" not at beginning of block
-snip-snap-
but no TeX-file.
What goes wrong?
ThanksHans Friedrich


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[Tex-music] PMX says "You entered "h" not at beginning of block"

2016-07-13 Thread HF. Steffani
Hello,
I have a simple m-tx - file:--snip--snap--Style: SINGER
Flats: 1
Meter: 0/4

f2 d4 c4    f4 g4 f2 g4 a4   h2 a4 h4 c4 a4   g2 f2

--snip-snap--

m-tx -t 
displays:-snip-snap-This is m-tx.lua version 0.4.
Processing halleluja.mtx.
==> This is M-Tx 0.60d (Music from TeXt) <11 October 2008>
==>> Input from file halleluja.mtx
Writing to halleluja.pmx
PrePMX done.  Now run PMX.
 This is PMX, Version 2.7  , 3 Apr 13
 Opening halleluja.pmx

 Starting first PMX pass

  Bar 1
 Done with first pass


 Starting second PMX pass

 You entered "h" not at beginning of block
-snip-snap-
but no TeX-file.
What goes wrong?
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[Tex-music] [M-Tx] One Note with more than one Word

2016-03-22 Thread HF. Steffani
Preamble:
%%\input german.sty
%%\leftlyrtrue
Style: SINGER
Meter: 0/4
Sharps: 1
Title: Gr"undonnerstag 2016

%%\let\qu\nq%
%%\let\ql\nq%


That works
g4  a   b0a4   b   g
L: 1. Die Wei-sung~des~Herrn~ist   voll-kom-men
L: 2. Die Wei-{sung des Herrn ist} voll-kom-men

% I prefer line 2 


That also works
a+0  g4  b c  a   g
L:den~{Un - wis - sen}-den macht es wei-se
L:es~er-leuch-tet die Au-gen.


But that does not work because of wrong assignment of notes and text

a+0  g4  b c  a   g
L:den~{Un - wis - sen}-den macht es wei-se


And that does not work too, i.e. cannot be compiled by TeX

a+0  g4  b c  a   g
L:den~{Un - wis - sen}-den macht es wei-se
L:{den Un - wis - sen}-den macht es wei-se


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[Tex-music] [M-Tx] One Note with more than one Word

2016-03-22 Thread HF. Steffani
Hello Simon Dreher and Dirk Laurie


thanks for your help:
Some points as conclusion:
* ~ helps very much

* @> does not work :-( as it only works for upper text as mentioned in the 
documentation
* the rlap-llap-solution also was not satisfying.
* but I had a look to the musixlyr-documentation and added %%\leftlyrtrue . 
With this I am satisfied (for the moment).

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[Tex-music] [M-Tx] One Note with more than one Word

2016-03-21 Thread HF. Steffani
dirk.laurie at gmail.com wrote:
> If you mean several words to one note:

>as~it~was~in~the~beginning
That's what I am looking for. But I am still not satisfied. With this the note 
is centered above the text but I want the note above the first syllable. Is 
there a way?
thanks

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[Tex-music] [M-Tx] One Note with more than one Word

2016-03-21 Thread HF. Steffani
I am setting psalms with TeX and I want to use M-Tx for this. One peculiarity 
that there is one note the "rezitationston" for several syllables.
How can I do this with m-tx?
ThanksHans Friedrich

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