Re: [Tex-music] Shifting dots

[maurizio .mau. codogno]

Usually the conversion from :-) to an emotional which in turn becomes J is
the fault of Outlook :)

Ciao, .mau.

Il sab 6 ago 2016, 18:28 Jean-Pierre Coulon  ha scritto:

> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Don Simons wrote:
>
> > Dieter, don?t get the wrong idea from Dirk?s link to the definition of
> RTFM.
> > I?m always happy to answer any questions about PMX. If the answer is
> already
> > in the manual, it gives me pleasure to point that out.
>
> > The ?J? was a smiley face symbol that I entered as ? : - ) ? (with no
> quotes
> > or spaces). It looked like a smiley face when I sent it, but must have
> > gotten converted to a ?J? somewhere along the way.
>
> Perhaps you would avoid such trouble avoiding to sent mails in html
> format. See how I see your quote signs. The :-) sequence is well known
> nowadays. :-)
>
> Jean-Pierre Coulon
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Re: [Tex-music] Shifting dots

[Jean-Pierre Coulon]

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Don Simons wrote:


Dieter, don?t get the wrong idea from Dirk?s link to the definition of RTFM.
I?m always happy to answer any questions about PMX. If the answer is already
in the manual, it gives me pleasure to point that out.



The ?J? was a smiley face symbol that I entered as ? : - ) ? (with no quotes
or spaces). It looked like a smiley face when I sent it, but must have
gotten converted to a ?J? somewhere along the way.


Perhaps you would avoid such trouble avoiding to sent mails in html
format. See how I see your quote signs. The :-) sequence is well known 
nowadays. :-)


Jean-Pierre Coulon
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Re: [Tex-music] Shifting dots

[Don Simons]

Dieter, don’t get the wrong idea from Dirk’s link to the definition of RTFM.
I’m always happy to answer any questions about PMX. If the answer is already
in the manual, it gives me pleasure to point that out.

 

The “J” was a smiley face symbol that I entered as “ : - ) “ (with no quotes
or spaces). It looked like a smiley face when I sent it, but must have
gotten converted to a “J” somewhere along the way. 

 

--Don

 

From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 12:59 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Shifting dots

 

Hi Don and Bob,

thanks for your help. The solution works nicely. It was not obvious to me to
first  augment the z-notes with a "d".

Sorry for the "50 mm" height.

May I ask: What is an RTFM J?

Regards Dieter

Am 05.08.2016 um 17:59 schrieb Don Simons:

That’s an easy one, basically an RTFM :)

 

%[+4 c84 ze zgf zb zc {0 c84 ] {1 ze {2 zg {3 zb {4 zc c2d4 }0 ze }1 zg }2
zb }3 zc }4 | /

[+4 c84 ze zgf zb zc {0 c84 ] {1 ze {2 zg {3 zb {4 zc c24d-2 }0 zed-2 }1
zgd-2 }2 zbd-2 }3 zc }4 | /

 

There are some wrinkles, though. To move a dot, there must be an explicit
“d” (even on a chord note), and the vertical shift must be the next number
after the “d”. So that may conflict with your default way of explicitly
indicating the octave.

 

The default position of dots within a staff is always in a space. If the
note is on a line, the default is to move the dot up. That’s why all dots
except the one on the c5 were moved, and also why the downward shift has to
be closer to 2 than 1.

 

Why in the world did you set the page height to 50 mm? That caused my first
page to be blank when I viewed this with Ghostview.

 

--Don Simons

 

 

From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 8:01 AM
To: tex-music@tug.org <mailto:tex-music@tug.org> 
Subject: [Tex-music] Shifting dots

 

Hi all, 

in the last chord of the PMX example below the dots are not well positioned.





I would like to shift the dots for c4,e4,g4-flat and b4 a little bit
downwords.

I tried  the recommendations of Cornelius Noack, but they do not seem to
work.

I also wonder why the dot for c5 is on the same level of the note whereas
all the others are higher.

Any body got an idea?

Thanks and regards,
Dieter









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Re: [Tex-music] Shifting dots

[Dieter]

Hi Don and Bob,

thanks for your help. The solution works nicely. It was not obvious to 
me to first  augment the z-notes with a "d".


Sorry for the "50 mm" height.

May I ask: What is an RTFM J?

Regards Dieter

Am 05.08.2016 um 17:59 schrieb Don Simons:


That’s an easy one, basically an RTFM J

%[+4 c84 ze zgf zb zc {0 c84 ] {1 ze {2 zg {3 zb {4 zc c2d4 }0 ze }1 
zg }2 zb }3 zc }4 | /


[+4 c84 ze zgf zb zc {0 c84 ] {1 ze {2 zg {3 zb {4 zc c24d-2 }0 zed-2 
}1 zgd-2 }2 zbd-2 }3 zc }4 | /


There are some wrinkles, though. To move a dot, there must be an 
explicit “d” (even on a chord note), and the vertical shift must be 
the next number after the “d”. So that may conflict with your default 
way of explicitly indicating the octave.


The default position of dots within a staff is always in a space. If 
the note is on a line, the default is to move the dot up. That’s why 
all dots except the one on the c5 were moved, and also why the 
downward shift has to be closer to 2 than 1.


Why in the world did you set the page height to 50 mm? That caused my 
first page to be blank when I viewed this with Ghostview.


--Don Simons

*From:*TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] *On Behalf Of *Dieter
*Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 8:01 AM
*To:* tex-music@tug.org
*Subject:* [Tex-music] Shifting dots

Hi all,

in the last chord of the PMX example below the dots are not well 
positioned.






I would like to shift the dots for c4,e4,g4-flat and b4 a little bit 
downwords.


I tried  the recommendations of Cornelius Noack, but they do not seem 
to work.


I also wonder why the dot for c5 is on the same level of the note 
whereas all the others are higher.


Any body got an idea?

Thanks and regards,
Dieter



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Re: [Tex-music] Shifting dots

[Don Simons]

That's an easy one, basically an RTFM :)

 

%[+4 c84 ze zgf zb zc {0 c84 ] {1 ze {2 zg {3 zb {4 zc c2d4 }0 ze }1 zg }2
zb }3 zc }4 | /

[+4 c84 ze zgf zb zc {0 c84 ] {1 ze {2 zg {3 zb {4 zc c24d-2 }0 zed-2 }1
zgd-2 }2 zbd-2 }3 zc }4 | /

 

There are some wrinkles, though. To move a dot, there must be an explicit
"d" (even on a chord note), and the vertical shift must be the next number
after the "d". So that may conflict with your default way of explicitly
indicating the octave.

 

The default position of dots within a staff is always in a space. If the
note is on a line, the default is to move the dot up. That's why all dots
except the one on the c5 were moved, and also why the downward shift has to
be closer to 2 than 1.

 

Why in the world did you set the page height to 50 mm? That caused my first
page to be blank when I viewed this with Ghostview.

 

--Don Simons

 

 

From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 8:01 AM
To: tex-music@tug.org
Subject: [Tex-music] Shifting dots

 

Hi all, 

in the last chord of the PMX example below the dots are not well positioned.





I would like to shift the dots for c4,e4,g4-flat and b4 a little bit
downwords.

I tried  the recommendations of Cornelius Noack, but they do not seem to
work.

I also wonder why the dot for c5 is on the same level of the note whereas
all the others are higher.

Any body got an idea?

Thanks and regards,
Dieter



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Re: [Tex-music] Shifting dots

[Bob Tennent]

 >|in the last chord of the PMX example below the dots are not well
 >|positioned.
 >|
 >|I would like to shift the dots for c4,e4,g4-flat and b4 a little bit
 >|downwords.

Notes on a line are raised by musixtex. Compare the dots on
the G flat and the F in the bass.

According to musixdoc:

  As a matter of style, if two voices share one staff, the
  dots in the lower voice should be lowered if the note is
  on a line. For this you can use \lpt{p} and \lppt{p}.

Bob T.
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