RE: uri_map using regex [WAS: mod_jk, mod_jk2 URI spaces]

2002-08-10 Thread Mladen Turk

 -Original Message-
 From: Bojan Smojver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 2:04 AM
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 Subject: Re: uri_map using regex [WAS: mod_jk, mod_jk2 URI spaces]
 
 
 Doesn't mod_rewrite do what you want here? In combination 
 with mod_proxy, it can rewrite URL to URL as well, so you can 
 get the resulting URL back in mod_jk and then just use normal 
 mappings. Or maybe I'm on a totally wrong track here...
 

True (I think) for the positive assertions, but:

[uri:/examples/*]
#matches entire app

[uri:/examples/(?!\.(gif|jpe?g|png)$)]
#matches everything except .gif, .jpg, .jpeg, .png

The entire purpose is to be able to _disallow_ certain mappings in the
already mapped application.
I'm afraid that the mod_proxy cannot be used for such a thing, cause the
first mapping will forcibly drive all the examples context through the
TC.
At first I was trying (before the pcre idea) to use the simple matching
like :

[uri:/examples/*]

[uri:!/examples/*.jpg]

...etc

This is can be parsed without using pcre (using apr_fnmatch), but what
about more complex schemas involving directories and file extensions,
not only files.
On the other hand, we can use the mod_rewrite/mod_proxy only with the
Apache, and we want to be portable thought.

MT.


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RE: uri_map using regex [WAS: mod_jk, mod_jk2 URI spaces]

2002-08-10 Thread Bojan Smojver

I think I understand what you're saying here and it will probably be
necessary for non-Apache web servers anyway. I was thinking more along
the lines of:

1. Anything you want to disallow for TC, rewrite to Apache visible
filenames and/or URL's (in your example, image files). Apache will then
happily serve them.

2. Anything else, rewrite to URL that match something that's in mod_jk's
space.

Bojan

On Sat, 2002-08-10 at 16:31, Mladen Turk wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Bojan Smojver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 2:04 AM
  To: Tomcat Dev List
  Subject: Re: uri_map using regex [WAS: mod_jk, mod_jk2 URI spaces]
  
  
  Doesn't mod_rewrite do what you want here? In combination 
  with mod_proxy, it can rewrite URL to URL as well, so you can 
  get the resulting URL back in mod_jk and then just use normal 
  mappings. Or maybe I'm on a totally wrong track here...
  
 
 True (I think) for the positive assertions, but:
 
 [uri:/examples/*]
 #matches entire app
 
 [uri:/examples/(?!\.(gif|jpe?g|png)$)]
 #matches everything except .gif, .jpg, .jpeg, .png
 
 The entire purpose is to be able to _disallow_ certain mappings in the
 already mapped application.
 I'm afraid that the mod_proxy cannot be used for such a thing, cause the
 first mapping will forcibly drive all the examples context through the
 TC.
 At first I was trying (before the pcre idea) to use the simple matching
 like :
 
 [uri:/examples/*]
 
 [uri:!/examples/*.jpg]
 
 ...etc
 
 This is can be parsed without using pcre (using apr_fnmatch), but what
 about more complex schemas involving directories and file extensions,
 not only files.
 On the other hand, we can use the mod_rewrite/mod_proxy only with the
 Apache, and we want to be portable thought.
 
 MT.
 
 
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Re: uri_map using regex [WAS: mod_jk, mod_jk2 URI spaces]

2002-08-09 Thread Costin Manolache

I thought about this few times - it's a good idea but a bit 
scary ( the build process ), and not sure if a general regexp
will work as well on the simple patterns we have.

On the other side most regexp impl. use finite machines and
many optimizations - so they may be much faster.

I'm +1 if you can do it first in an 'optional' way - 
like a separate module that can be excluded and will be
used based on some option. It may need some hooks.

If you want to start on this, I would propose we branch the 
code for a stable 1.0 release.

My current thinking is to use 4.1.9 ( or whatever is the stable
release) as a tag for jk1.2 'stable' and jk2 'beta'.

Costin

 

On Fri, 09 Aug 2002 04:07:27 -0700, Mladen Turk wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Remember the last month advanced URI space resolution I proposed?
 
 Well, I've been working on that for a week or so, and found myself doing
 things that are more or less regular expression matching of request uri.
 Even existing uri_map code has a trace of that (matching star for
 example), so IMO (since we are matching things) we could use the regex
 code as a general uri-file space matching solution. That way the users
 will be able to use the same syntax as for the LocationMatch  or
 mod_proxy, allowing one to make complex uri resolutions, like TRUE/FALSE
 cases.
 
 The major drawback of that is that we'll need the pcre library, either
 one that comes with the Apache 2 (by Philip Hazel) or Apache 1.3 (by
 Henry Spencer). Since the same should be used with the IIS and other
 platforms, I suggest that we use the one from Apache 2.0.
 
 Using pcre will introduce the need for build process changes (only 2.0
 can use the proposed pcre from its own build) and we'll need the
 pcre.lib.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 MT.



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RE: uri_map using regex [WAS: mod_jk, mod_jk2 URI spaces]

2002-08-09 Thread Mladen Turk



 From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Costin Manolache
 
 I thought about this few times - it's a good idea but a bit 
 scary ( the build process )

The easiest would be if the guys from Apache 2 move the regex to the
apr-util (I already make the question about that on the apr-dev).
Apache 2 builds should be relatively easy to implement since we have the
pcrelib already there. For the rest of the servers (IIS) we have the
.dsp and all that is needed is to include that in the module build.

 and not sure if a general regexp will work as well on the simple
patterns we have.

Well everything is precompiled, so the performance shouldn't be an issue
here.
 
 
 I'm +1 if you can do it first in an 'optional' way - 
 like a separate module that can be excluded and will be
 used based on some option. It may need some hooks.


I was planning to do that any way since this has lot of implications to
the existing mappings, moving the new code to the jk_uriMapX.c and
keeping function naming as is.

 
 If you want to start on this, I would propose we branch the 
 code for a stable 1.0 release.
 
 My current thinking is to use 4.1.9 ( or whatever is the stable
 release) as a tag for jk1.2 'stable' and jk2 'beta'.
 

Ok. That would be fine with me.


MT.


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Re: uri_map using regex [WAS: mod_jk, mod_jk2 URI spaces]

2002-08-09 Thread Bojan Smojver

Doesn't mod_rewrite do what you want here? In combination with
mod_proxy, it can rewrite URL to URL as well, so you can get the
resulting URL back in mod_jk and then just use normal mappings. Or maybe
I'm on a totally wrong track here...

As for IIS, dunno, don't care ;-)

Bojan

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 21:07, Mladen Turk wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Remember the last month advanced URI space resolution I proposed?
 
 Well, I've been working on that for a week or so, and found myself doing
 things that are more or less regular expression matching of request uri.
 Even existing uri_map code has a trace of that (matching star for
 example), so IMO (since we are matching things) we could use the regex
 code as a general uri-file space matching solution. That way the users
 will be able to use the same syntax as for the LocationMatch  or
 mod_proxy, allowing one to make complex uri resolutions, like TRUE/FALSE
 cases.
 
 The major drawback of that is that we'll need the pcre library, either
 one that comes with the Apache 2 (by Philip Hazel) or Apache 1.3 (by
 Henry Spencer). Since the same should be used with the IIS and other
 platforms, I suggest that we use the one from Apache 2.0.
 
 Using pcre will introduce the need for build process changes (only 2.0
 can use the proposed pcre from its own build) and we'll need the
 pcre.lib.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 MT.
 
 
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