AW: AW: AW: Tomcat intermittent failures

2002-04-12 Thread Ralph Einfeldt

AFAIK tomcat uses the error.jsp only if you declare one in 
the page directive. If you have a a page directive it should
be possible to use just one error.jsp. If you don't have this 
directive I think that your assumption is wrong. (At least in
our installation of tomcat, tomcat shows the error in the 
browser if any happens and you don't specify a error page in 
the jsp)

If your assumption is right you should find some messages
in the logs that are generated by tomcat.

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 Von: David Bank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. April 2002 18:35
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 Our current theory is that there is an error in compiling the 
 revised JSP. If the .class and .java files are there from the 
 previous revision, they are displayed. If those files are not 
 there, then we think Tomcat tries to display a standard file 
 error.jsp. Unfortunately, we don't have a copy of error.jsp 
 in every directory, which the leads to the 404 - File Not 
 Found message.
 
 That is the theory of operation we've developed, if it 
 contradicts how Tomcat actually works, please let us know. 
 Under this theory our corrective action is to make sure there 
 is a copy of error.jsp in every directory.
 

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Re: AW: AW: AW: Tomcat intermittent failures

2002-04-12 Thread David Bank

Ralph,

Our code does indeed declare use of error.jsp.

The Tomcat error messages seem to say only that a file was not found. They don't seem 
to specify the file.

Dave Bank

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/02 02:47AM 
AFAIK tomcat uses the error.jsp only if you declare one in 
the page directive. If you have a a page directive it should
be possible to use just one error.jsp. If you don't have this 
directive I think that your assumption is wrong. (At least in
our installation of tomcat, tomcat shows the error in the 
browser if any happens and you don't specify a error page in 
the jsp)

If your assumption is right you should find some messages
in the logs that are generated by tomcat.

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: David Bank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. April 2002 18:35
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Tomcat intermittent failures
 
 Our current theory is that there is an error in compiling the 
 revised JSP. If the .class and .java files are there from the 
 previous revision, they are displayed. If those files are not 
 there, then we think Tomcat tries to display a standard file 
 error.jsp. Unfortunately, we don't have a copy of error.jsp 
 in every directory, which the leads to the 404 - File Not 
 Found message.
 
 That is the theory of operation we've developed, if it 
 contradicts how Tomcat actually works, please let us know. 
 Under this theory our corrective action is to make sure there 
 is a copy of error.jsp in every directory.
 

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AW: AW: AW: AW: Tomcat intermittent failures

2002-04-12 Thread Ralph Einfeldt


So use %@ page errorPage=/error.jsp %
to access the error page in the default context.
(webapps/ROOT/error.jsp)

Or %@ page errorPage=/context/error.jsp %
for webapps/context/error.jsp

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 Von: David Bank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 12. April 2002 15:36
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 Ralph,
 
 Our code does indeed declare use of error.jsp.
 
 The Tomcat error messages seem to say only that a file was 
 not found. They don't seem to specify the file.
 
 Dave Bank
 

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Re: AW: AW: Tomcat intermittent failures

2002-04-11 Thread David Bank

Ralph,

Thanks again for writing on this subject. We've checked the logs and it does indeed 
look like Apache is receiving the request, and passing it along to Tomcat.

Our current theory is that there is an error in compiling the revised JSP. If the 
.class and .java files are there from the previous revision, they are displayed. If 
those files are not there, then we think Tomcat tries to display a standard file 
error.jsp. Unfortunately, we don't have a copy of error.jsp in every directory, which 
the leads to the 404 - File Not Found message.

That is the theory of operation we've developed, if it contradicts how Tomcat actually 
works, please let us know. Under this theory our corrective action is to make sure 
there is a copy of error.jsp in every directory.

Dave Bank

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/02 11:34AM 
Sorry , but if one jsp works and another not, that doesn't
nessesarily mean that the one that didn't work hit the 
server just because the other did it.

With verification i wass thinking of looking at the access 
log. If apache was hit, hat you should find an corresponding
entry in the access.log for this request with the error 
code 404.

If tomcat was hit you should see some messages in the
logs that are produced by tomcat. (Depends on the verbosity
that you defined)

If apache was hit but not tomcat, I would expect
an error message in the log of apache.

If tomcat was hit I would expect an error message in 
one of the logs of tomcat.

Make shure that you start apache and tomcat in way that stderr 
and stdout are captured in a log file.

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 Von: David Bank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. April 2002 17:21
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Ralph,
 
 Thanks for writing. We've been able to reproduce the situation on
 machines which were directly connected to the same LAN on which the
 servers are located (and therefore no proxy was involved), 
 and we tried
 clearing browser caches on these machines. The problem persisted.
 
 When the problem occurs, some .JSP files will compile and run fine,
 others won't. So we know Apache is hitting Tomcat and Tomcat 
 is running
 because some files work and some don't. It'll just change - as I said
 before, we'll do the restart thing, or even reboot the whole box, and
 before, FOO.JSP wouldn't work but BAR.JSP would, and after 
 FOO.JSP will
 work and BAR.JSP won't. But a .JSP file works each time, 
 confirming that
 we are hitting Apache and Apache is hitting Tomcat.
 
 David Bank
 NC CATS Project Manager
 Accountability Services - Testing
 NC Department of Public Instruction
 301  Wilmington Street
 Raleigh, NC  27601
 919-807-3796
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/02 03:00AM 
 Have you verified if your apache got hit, with the request
 that caused a 'file not found'? (We have seen in the past 
 some obscure errors that turned out to be caching problems
 of browsers and proxy caches where the server wasn't hit at 
 all)
 
 If your apache got hit, did the request hit tomcat ?
 
 If it hit tomcat can you find any error message that may 
 correspond to the failure? 
 (in the tomcat or the apache logs)
 
 
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  Von: David Bank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. April 2002 19:56
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  exist, but when we attempt to access that particular JSP thru 
  Apache, we get 404 - File Not Found. 
 
 
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2002-04-10 Thread Ralph Einfeldt

Have you verified if your apache got hit, with the request
that caused a 'file not found'? (We have seen in the past 
some obscure errors that turned out to be caching problems
of browsers and proxy caches where the server wasn't hit at 
all)

If your apache got hit, did the request hit tomcat ?

If it hit tomcat can you find any error message that may 
correspond to the failure? 
(in the tomcat or the apache logs)


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 Von: David Bank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. April 2002 19:56
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 exist, but when we attempt to access that particular JSP thru 
 Apache, we get 404 - File Not Found. 
 

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Re: AW: Tomcat intermittent failures

2002-04-10 Thread David Bank

Ralph,

Thanks for writing. We've been able to reproduce the situation on
machines which were directly connected to the same LAN on which the
servers are located (and therefore no proxy was involved), and we tried
clearing browser caches on these machines. The problem persisted.

When the problem occurs, some .JSP files will compile and run fine,
others won't. So we know Apache is hitting Tomcat and Tomcat is running
because some files work and some don't. It'll just change - as I said
before, we'll do the restart thing, or even reboot the whole box, and
before, FOO.JSP wouldn't work but BAR.JSP would, and after FOO.JSP will
work and BAR.JSP won't. But a .JSP file works each time, confirming that
we are hitting Apache and Apache is hitting Tomcat.

David Bank
NC CATS Project Manager
Accountability Services - Testing
NC Department of Public Instruction
301  Wilmington Street
Raleigh, NC  27601
919-807-3796


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/02 03:00AM 
Have you verified if your apache got hit, with the request
that caused a 'file not found'? (We have seen in the past 
some obscure errors that turned out to be caching problems
of browsers and proxy caches where the server wasn't hit at 
all)

If your apache got hit, did the request hit tomcat ?

If it hit tomcat can you find any error message that may 
correspond to the failure? 
(in the tomcat or the apache logs)


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 Von: David Bank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. April 2002 19:56
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Betreff: Tomcat intermittent failures
 
 exist, but when we attempt to access that particular JSP thru 
 Apache, we get 404 - File Not Found. 


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AW: AW: Tomcat intermittent failures

2002-04-10 Thread Ralph Einfeldt

Sorry , but if one jsp works and another not, that doesn't
nessesarily mean that the one that didn't work hit the 
server just because the other did it.

With verification i wass thinking of looking at the access 
log. If apache was hit, hat you should find an corresponding
entry in the access.log for this request with the error 
code 404.

If tomcat was hit you should see some messages in the
logs that are produced by tomcat. (Depends on the verbosity
that you defined)

If apache was hit but not tomcat, I would expect
an error message in the log of apache.

If tomcat was hit I would expect an error message in 
one of the logs of tomcat.

Make shure that you start apache and tomcat in way that stderr 
and stdout are captured in a log file.

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: David Bank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. April 2002 17:21
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Re: AW: Tomcat intermittent failures
 
 
 Ralph,
 
 Thanks for writing. We've been able to reproduce the situation on
 machines which were directly connected to the same LAN on which the
 servers are located (and therefore no proxy was involved), 
 and we tried
 clearing browser caches on these machines. The problem persisted.
 
 When the problem occurs, some .JSP files will compile and run fine,
 others won't. So we know Apache is hitting Tomcat and Tomcat 
 is running
 because some files work and some don't. It'll just change - as I said
 before, we'll do the restart thing, or even reboot the whole box, and
 before, FOO.JSP wouldn't work but BAR.JSP would, and after 
 FOO.JSP will
 work and BAR.JSP won't. But a .JSP file works each time, 
 confirming that
 we are hitting Apache and Apache is hitting Tomcat.
 
 David Bank
 NC CATS Project Manager
 Accountability Services - Testing
 NC Department of Public Instruction
 301  Wilmington Street
 Raleigh, NC  27601
 919-807-3796
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/02 03:00AM 
 Have you verified if your apache got hit, with the request
 that caused a 'file not found'? (We have seen in the past 
 some obscure errors that turned out to be caching problems
 of browsers and proxy caches where the server wasn't hit at 
 all)
 
 If your apache got hit, did the request hit tomcat ?
 
 If it hit tomcat can you find any error message that may 
 correspond to the failure? 
 (in the tomcat or the apache logs)
 
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: David Bank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. April 2002 19:56
  An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Betreff: Tomcat intermittent failures
  
  exist, but when we attempt to access that particular JSP thru 
  Apache, we get 404 - File Not Found. 
 
 
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