subject:"RE\: \[TruthTalk\] Canadian Thought Police on the march"

RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily









Isnt that the truth? We sold our
100 year old house, for one thing, because we realized that the renovations would
never be finished.  As soon as you started to repair one thing it led to
another and another.  The whole house needed to be replaced one thing after
another! So we built new.  What an analogy of the difference between religion
and being born again of the Holy Spirit. izzy











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:05
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march







There is no such thing as a
renovated heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes me wonder





about you and your SS conversion.
It is a new heart; the old has passed away - all things become new.











On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:







My critique of this would be similar to your own. Granted
that a civil society is an improvement on an uncivil one. Granted that a moral
society is an improvement on an immoral one. Granted that some attempt to
govern their lives by the so-called 'golden rule' or, by the ten commandments.
These also offer up a social improvement on that which opposes the foregoing.











Please, please tell me Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the
genuine 'renovation of the heart' would/should include all of the above? I do
believe that some of y'all have things ass backwards with that upon which you
focus (signage wise and all).







- Original Message - 





From: Kevin
Deegan 





To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 24, 2006
07:54





Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Canadian Thought Police on the march

















The Canadian Guanatamo 





Better be careful with your social context on the INET Lance!





Are you hating an identifiable group?





And your comments on FUNDIES have hurt me, I understand it
as an attack on me  multiple groups of my friends. ; )





Do you have the telE for the Tribunal?











Justice in Canaduh





http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/





passed his second year of incarceration without charge





Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his accusers or to know
all the evidence against him.





Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are Internet-related











Canadian Human Rights Commission The truth in
some absolute sense really plays no role.
Rather, it is the social context in which the message
is delivered and heard which will determine the effect that the communication
will have on the listener. It is not the truth or falsity
per se that will evoke the emotion but rather how it is understood
by the recipient.

Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Don't look now but Canada is
changing - Group Think





Gary North would be proud
of you folks.





He tried to bring in New
Geneva and by the looks of it you folks have actually suceeded!











Robert Martin,professor of
constitutional law at the University
of Western Ontario Canada now is a
totalitarian theocracy. I see this as a country ruled today by what I would
describe as a secular state religion [of political correctness]. Anything that
is regarded as heresy or blasphemy is not
tolerated.











Be careful there have been Inquisitions against
professors who attack American Foriegn policy. Hope you do not get turned in,
for your thoughts!











You Cant Say That
Canadian thought police on the march.





By David E. Bernstein 











I've had the good fortune of
spending this past month on the road promoting my new book about how
anti-discrimination laws are eroding civil liberties. At the end of a recent
talk about the book, an audience member asked whether I believe that freedom of
_expression_ is really at risk in the United States from laws meant to
aid women and minorities. The heart of my response is, Look at what's
happening in Canada.
If we don't watch out, we're next.





The decline of freedom of _expression_ in Canada began with seemingly minor
and





understandable speech restrictions. In 1990, the Canadian supreme court
upheld the conviction of James Keegstra, a public-high-school teacher, for
propagating Holocaust denial and anti-Semitic views to his public high-school
students, despite repeated warnings from his superiors to stop. Keegstra was
convicted of the crime of willfully promoting hatred against an
identifiable group, which carries a penalty of up to two years in jail.
Criminalizing hate speech, the court stated, was a reasonable
restriction on _expression_, and it therefore passed constitutional muster.





Two years later, the same court held that obscenity laws are unconstitutional
to the extent they criminalize material based on sexual content alone. However,
any degrading or dehumanizing depiction of sexual activity 
including material that the First Amendment would

RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily









Matthew
11:12
 From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven
suffers violence, and violent men
take it by force.











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:36
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: Kevin Deegan
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march







I was responding to this jewel: violent thinking is not violent action 
 And who gets elected to be the thought
police anyway? 











-- Original message -- 
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
If I am talking like Hill  North
it must be a typo or More Likely a Parity Error on your end!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 



No one's talking about thought police, Kev. If
you want to talk like Hill and North - expect the rest of us who
listen to you to think you are of the same ilk, denials not
withstanding. That's all I am saying. 























jd











-- Original message -- 
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 violent thinking is not violent action 
 And who gets elected to be the thought police anyway? 
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
  IFO can accept this self-characterization. But when your words sound 
  like North's or Paul Hill's, they allow others to see a similarity in

  your thoughts as compared to the violent thinking of those named 
  above. 
  
  jd 
  
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Kevin Deegan 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
   First you accuse me of being Gary North and then you tell me you

  agree 
   with my critique of his philosophy? (see your post below) 
   Which is it Lance? I do not understa nd such behavior it seems 
   irrational to me. 
   
   I absolutely am not a ROMAN Papist. 
   
   Seems to me the Canadian Gov't is on a witch hunt the likes of 
   MccarthyISM. 
   The State of Canada has become the Potentate on a hunt for
illegal 
   thoughts and will enFORCE by threat of law and public censure. 
   Only diff McCarthy was right the US had been infiltrated! 
   
   The only force I believe in is the Force of God's words. 
   You have the right to believe anything you want and I have the 
  right to 
   violently disagree with words NO SWORDS! 
   
   --- Lance Muir wrote: 
   
Did you know that 'he' will not repeat that infamous line
no 
  matter 
who asks? 

So, K evin, I undertake to write more than 1 line and, you
do what 
  you 
do so well; simply give up a smart-ass reply. It's little
wonder 
  that 
SPers are not well received either in Salt Lake
or, anywhere 
  else! 
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: March 24, 2006 08:15 
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the
march 


Are you talking to me, Gary North? 

Lance Muir wrote: 
My critique of this would be similar to your own. Granted
that a 
civil society is an improvement on an uncivil one. Granted
that a 
  
moral society is an improvement on an immoral one...
Granted that 
  gt; ; some 
attempt to govern their lives by the so-called 'golden
rule' or, 
  by 
the ten commandments. These also offer up a social
improvement on 
  
that which opposes the foregoing. 

Please, please tell me Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the
genuine 
  
'renovation of the heart' would/should include all of the
above? 
  I do 
believe that some of y'all have things ass backwards with
that 
  upon 
which you focus (signage wise and all). 
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: March 24, 2006 07:54 
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the
march 


 BR gt;The Canadian Guanatamo 
Better be careful with your social context on the INET
Lance! 
Are you hating an identifiable group? 
And your comments on FUNDIES have hurt me, I
understand it as 
an attack on me  multiple groups of my friends. ; ) 
Do you have the telE for the Tribunal? 

Justice in Canaduh 


  http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/

  
passed his second year of incarceration without charge 
Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his accusers
or to 
know all the evidence against him. 
Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are
Internet-related 

Canadian Human Rights Commission The trut h in some
absolute 
sense really plays no role. Rather, it is the social
context in 
  which 
the message is delivered and heard which will determine the

  effect 
that the communication will have on the listener. It is not
the 
  truth 
or falsity per se that will evoke the emotion but rather
how it 
  is 
understood by the recipient. 

Kevin Deegan wrote: 
Don't look now but Canada is ch

Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir

'Renovation of the Heart' by Dallas Willard.

- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: March 25, 2006 06:20
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought
Police on the march

Isnt that the truth?
We sold our 100 year old house, for one thing, because we realized that the
renovations would never be finished. As soon as you started to repair
one thing it led to another and another. The whole house needed to be
replaced one thing after another! So we built new. What an analogy of
the difference between religion and being born again of the Holy Spirit.
izzy

From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Judy
TaylorSent: Friday, March
24, 2006 6:05 PMTo:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought
Police on the march

There is no such thing as a
"renovated" heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes me
wonder

about you and your SS
conversion. It is a new heart; the old has passed away - all things
become new.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

My critique of this would be
similar to your own. Granted that a civil society is an improvement on an
uncivil one. Granted that a moral society is an improvement on an immoral
one. Granted that some attempt to govern their lives by the so-called
'golden rule' or, by the ten commandments. These also offer up a social
improvement on that which opposes the
foregoing.

Please, please tell me Kevin,
Judy, David and Iz that the genuine 'renovation of the heart' would/should
include all of the above? I do believe that some of y'all have things ass
backwards with that upon which you focus (signage wise and
all).

- Original Message -

From: Kevin Deegan

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: March
24, 2006 07:54

Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the
march

The Canadian Guanatamo

Better be careful with your social context on the
INET Lance!

Are you hating an identifiable
group?

And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt me, I
understand it as an attack on me multiple groups of my friends. ;
)

Do you have the telE for the
Tribunal?

Justice in
Canaduh

http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/

passed his second year of incarceration without
charge

Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his
accusers or to know all the evidence against
him.

Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are
Internet-related

Canadian Human
Rights Commission "The truth in
some absolute sense really plays no
role. Rather, it is the social
context in which the message is delivered and
heard which will determine the effect that the communication will have on
the listener. It is not the truth or
falsity per se that will evoke the emotion but
rather how it is
understood by the
recipient.Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Don't
look now but Canada is changing - Group
Think

Gary
North would be proud of you
folks.

He
tried to bring in New Geneva and by the looks of it you folks have
actually suceeded!

Robert
Martin,professor
of constitutional law at the University of Western
Ontario "Canada now is a totalitarian
theocracy. I see this as a country ruled today by what I
would describe as a secular state religion [of political correctness].
Anything that is regarded as
heresy or blasphemy is not
tolerated."

Be careful there have been
Inquisitions against professors who attack American Foriegn policy. Hope
you do not get turned in, for your
thoughts!

You Cant Say
ThatCanadian
thought police on the march.

By David E.
Bernstein

I've had the
good fortune of spending this past month on the road promoting my new
book about how anti-discrimination laws are eroding civil liberties. At
the end of a recent talk about the book, an audience member asked
whether I believe t

Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise


Selling the old house and building the new house is precisely what does not happen in new birth. What you moved to avoid is the real analogy. I am surprised that you think differently. 

jd

-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 







'Renovation of the Heart' by Dallas Willard. 

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 25, 2006 06:20
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march


Isnt that the truth? We sold our 100 year old house, for one thing, because we realized that the renovations would never be finished. As soon as you started to repair one thing it led to another and another. The whole house needed to be replaced one thing after another! So we built new. What an analogy of the difference between religion and being born again of the Holy Spirit. izzy





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:05 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march


There is no such thing as a "renovated" heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes me wonder

about you and your SS conversion. It is a new heart; the old has passed away - all things become new.



On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


My critique of this would be similar to your own. Granted that a civil society is an improvement on an uncivil one. Granted that a moral society is an improvement on an immoral one. Granted that some attempt to govern their lives by the so-called 'golden rule' or, by the ten commandments. These also offer up a social improvement on that which opposes the foregoing.



Please, please tell me Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the genuine 'renovation of the heart' would/should include all of the above? I do believe that some of y'all have things ass backwards with that upon which you focus (signage wise and all).


- Original Message - 

From: Kevin Deegan 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 24, 2006 07:54

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march





The Canadian Guanatamo 

Better be careful with your social context on the INET Lance!

Are you hating an identifiable group?

And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt me, I understand it as an attack on me  multiple groups of my friends. ; )

Do you have the telE for the Tribunal?



Justice in Canaduh

http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/

passed his second year of incarceration without charge

Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his accusers or to know all the evidence against him.

Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are Internet-related



Canadian Human Rights Commission "The truth in some absolute sense really plays no role. Rather, it is the social context in which the message is delivered and heard which will determine the effect that the communication will have on the listener. It is not the truth or falsity per se that will evoke the emotion but rather how it is understood by the recipient.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Don't look now but Canada is changing - Group Think

Gary North would be proud of you folks.

He tried to bring in New Geneva and by the looks of it you folks have actually suceeded!



Robert Martin,professor of constitutional law at the University of Western Ontario "Canada now is a totalitarian theocracy. I see this as a country ruled today by what I would describe as a secular state religion [of political correctness]. Anything that is regarded as heresy or bl
asphemy is not tolerated."



Be careful there have been Inquisitions against professors who attack American Foriegn policy. Hope you do not get turned in, for your thoughts!



You Cant Say ThatCanadian thought police on the march.

By David E. Bernstein 



I've had the good fortune of spending this past month on the road promoting my new book about how anti-discrimination laws are eroding civil liberties. At the end of a recent talk about the book, an audience member asked whether I believe that freedom of _expression_ is really at risk in the United States from laws meant to aid women and minorities. The heart of my response is, "Look at what's happening in Canada. If we don't watch out, we're next."

The decline of freedom of _expression_ in Canada began with seemingly minor and

understandable speech restrictions. In 1990, the Canadian supreme court upheld the conviction of James Keegstra, a public-high-school teacher, for propagating Holocaust denial and anti-Semitic views to his public high-school students, despite repeated warnings from his superiors to stop. Keegstra was convicted of the crime of "willfully promoting hatred against an identifiable group," which carries a penalty of up to two years in jail.

RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily









Perhaps a poor analogy.  But we didnt
know how to miraculously turn the old house into a new one.we werent
likely to live long enough. J 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006
6:18 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march







Selling the old house and building the new house is precisely what does
not happen in new birth. What you moved to avoid is the real
analogy. I am surprised that you think differently. 











jd











-- Original message -- 
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



'Renovation of the Heart' by Dallas Willard. 







- Original Message - 





From: ShieldsFamily






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 25, 2006
06:20





Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
Canadian Thought Police on the march









Isnt that the truth? We sold our
100 year old house, for one thing, because we realized that the renovations
would never be finished. As soon as you started to repair one thing it
led to another and another. The whole house needed to be replaced one
thing after another! So we built new. What an analogy of the difference between
religion and being born again of the Holy Spirit. izzy











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:05
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march







There is no such thing as a
renovated heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes me wonder





about you and your SS conversion.
It is a new heart; the old has passed away - all things become new.











On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:







My critique of this would be similar to your own. Granted
that a civil society is an improvement on an uncivil one. Granted that a moral
society is an improvement on an immoral one. Granted that some attempt to
govern their lives by the so-called 'golden rule' or, by the ten commandments.
These also offer up a social improvement on that which opposes the foregoing.











Please, please tell me Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the
genuine 'renovation of the heart' would/should include all of the above? I do
believe that some of y'all have things ass backwards with that upon which you
focus (signage wise and all).







- Original Message - 





From: Kevin
Deegan 





To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 24, 2006
07:54





Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Canadian Thought Police on the march

















The Canadian Guanatamo 





Better be careful with your social context on the INET Lance!





Are you hating an identifiable group?





And your comments on FUNDIES have hurt me, I understand it
as an attack on me  multiple groups of my friends. ; )





Do you have the telE for the Tribunal?











Justice in Canaduh





http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/





passed his second year of incarceration without charge





Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his accusers or to know
all the evidence against him.





Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are Internet-related











Canadian Human Rights Commission The truth in
some absolute sense really plays no role.
Rather, it is the social context in which the message
is delivered and heard which will determine the effect that the communication
will have on the listener. It is not the truth or falsity
per se that will evoke the emotion but rather how it is understood
by the recipient.

Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Don't look now but Canada
is changing - Group Think





Gary North would be proud of you folks.





He tried to bring in New Geneva and by the looks of it you folks have
actually suceeded!











Robert Martin,professor
of constitutional law at the University
of Western Ontario
Canada
now is a totalitarian theocracy. I see this as a country
ruled today by what I would describe as a secular state religion [of political
correctness]. Anything that is regarded as heresy or bl asphemy is not
tolerated.











Be careful there
have been Inquisitions against professors who attack American Foriegn policy.
Hope you do not get turned in, for your thoughts!











You Cant Say That
Canadian thought police on the march.





By David E. Bernstein












I've had the good fortune of spending
this past month on the road promoting my new book about how anti-discrimination
laws are eroding civil liberties. At the end of a recent talk about the book,
an audience member asked whether I believe that freedom of _expression_ is really
at risk in the United
  States from
laws meant to aid women and minorities. The heart of my response is, Look
at what's happening in Canada.
If we don't watch out

Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor

The old house was judged at the cross; if you want to
hang on to it JD that's your demise
Probably why you defend carnality so adamantly
also. Only the new men make it because
only they are fit for the Kingdom.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:18:28 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Selling the old house and building the new house is precisely what does
not happen in new birth. What you moved to avoid is the real
analogy. I am surprised that you think differently.

From:
"Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

'Renovation of the Heart' by Dallas Willard.

- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: March 25, 2006 06:20
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march

Isnt that the
truth? We sold our 100 year old house, for one thing, because we realized
that the renovations would never be finished. As soon as you started
to repair one thing it led to another and another. The whole house
needed to be replaced one thing after another! So we built new. What
an analogy of the difference between religion and being born again of
the Holy Spirit. izzy

From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:05
PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march

There is no such thing as a
"renovated" heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes me
wonder

about you and your SS
conversion. It is a new heart; the old has passed away - all things
become new.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 "Lance Muir"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

My critique of this would be
similar to your own. Granted that a civil society is an improvement on
an uncivil one. Granted that a moral society is an improvement on an
immoral one. Granted that some attempt to govern their lives by the
so-called 'golden rule' or, by the ten commandments. These also offer up
a social improvement on that which opposes the
foregoing.

Please, please tell me
Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the genuine 'renovation of the heart'
would/should include all of the above? I do believe that some of y'all
have things ass backwards with that upon which you focus (signage wise
and all).

- Original Message
-

From:
Kevin Deegan

To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent:
March 24, 2006 07:54

Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the
march

The Canadian
Guanatamo

Better be careful with your social context on
the INET Lance!

Are you hating an identifiable
group?

And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt me, I
understand it as an attack on me multiple groups of my friends.
; )

Do you have the telE for the
Tribunal?

Justice in
Canaduh

http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/

passed his second year of incarceration
without charge

Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine
his accusers or to know all the evidence against
him.

Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are
Internet-related

Canadian Human
Rights Commission "The truth
in some absolute sense really
plays no
role. Rather, it is the social
context in which the message is delivered
and heard which will determine the effect that the communication will
have on the listener. It is not the truth or
falsity per se that will evoke the emotion
but rather how it is
understood by the
recipient.Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Don't look now
but Canada is changing -
Group Think

Gary North
would be proud of you
folks.

He tried to
bring in New Geneva a

RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise


With man , it is impossible but with God, it is possible. Your illustration is more to the point that we are saved by the miracle of God apart from our works.

-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 








Perhaps a poor analogy. But we didnt know how to miraculously turn the old house into a new one.we werent likely to live long enough. J 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:18 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march


Selling the old house and building the new house is precisely what does not happen in new birth. What you moved to avoid is the real analogy. I am surprised that you think differently. 



jd



-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

'Renovation of the Heart' by Dallas Willard. 


- Original Message - 

From: ShieldsFamily 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 25, 2006 06:20

Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march


Isnt that the truth? We sold our 100 year old house, for one thing, because we realized that the renovations would never be finished. As soon as you started to repair one thing it led to another and another. The whole house needed to be replaced one thing after another! So we built new. What an analogy of the difference between religion and being born again of the Holy Spirit. izzy





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:05 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march


There is no such thing as a "renovated" heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes me wonder

about you and your SS conversion. It is a new heart; the old has passed away - all things become new.



On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


My critique of this would be similar to your own. Granted that a civil society is an improvement on an uncivil one. Granted that a moral society is an improvement on an immoral one. Granted that some attempt to govern their lives by the so-called 'golden rule' or, by the ten commandments. These also offer up a social improvement on that which opposes the foregoing.



Please, please tell me Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the genuine 'renovation of the heart' would/should include all of the above? I do believe that some of y'all have things ass backwards with that upon which you focus (signage wise and all).


- Original Message - 

From: Kevin Deegan 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 24, 2006 07:54

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march





The Canadian Guanatamo 

Better be careful with your social context on the INET Lance!

Are you hating an identifiable group?

And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt me, I understand it as an attack on me  multiple groups of my friends. ; )

Do you have the telE for the Tribunal?



Justice in Canaduh

http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/

passed his second year of incarceration without charge

Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his accusers or to know all the evidence against him.

Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are Internet-related



Canadian Human Rights Commission "The truth in some absolute sense really plays no role. Rather, it is the social context in which the message is delivered and heard which will determine the effect that the communication will have on the listener. It is not the truth or falsity per se that will evoke the emotion but rather how it is understood by the recipient.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Don't look now but Canada is changing - Group Think

Gary North would be proud of you folks.

He tried to bring in New Geneva and by the looks of it you folks have actually suceeded!



Robert Martin,professor of constitutional law at the University of Western Ontario "Canada now is a totalitarian theocracy. I see thi
s as a country ruled today by what I would describe as a secular state religion [of political correctness]. Anything that is regarded as heresy or bl asphemy is not tolerated."



Be careful there have been Inquisitions against professors who attack American Foriegn policy. Hope you do not get turned in, for your thoughts!



You Cant Say ThatCanadian thought police on the march.

By David E. Bernstein 



I've had the good fortune of spending this past month on the road promoting my new book about how anti-discrimination laws are eroding civil liberties. At the end of a recent talk about the book, an audience member asked whether I believe that freedom of _expression_ is really at risk in the United States from laws meant to aid w

RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily









Not exactly; the new house works
wonderfully!!! J 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006
6:36 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march







With man , it is impossible but with God, it is possible. Your
illustration is more to the point that we are saved by the miracle of God apart
from our works.











-- Original message -- 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Perhaps a poor analogy. But we
didnt know how to miraculously turn the old house into a new
one.we werent likely to live long enough. J 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006
6:18 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march







Selling the old house and building the new house is precisely what does
not happen in new birth. What you moved to avoid is the real
analogy. I am surprised that you think differently. 











jd











-- Original message -- 
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



'Renovation of the Heart' by Dallas
Willard. 







- Original Message - 





From: ShieldsFamily






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 25, 2006
06:20





Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
Canadian Thought Police on the march









Isnt that the truth? We sold our
100 year old house, for one thing, because we realized that the renovations
would never be finished. As soon as you started to repair one thing it
led to another and another. The whole house needed to be replaced one
thing after another! So we built new. What an analogy of the difference
between religion and being born again of the Holy Spirit. izzy











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:05
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march







There is no such thing as a
renovated heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes me wonder





about you and your SS conversion.
It is a new heart; the old has passed away - all things become new.











On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:







My critique of this would be similar to your own. Granted
that a civil society is an improvement on an uncivil one. Granted that a moral
society is an improvement on an immoral one. Granted that some attempt to
govern their lives by the so-called 'golden rule' or, by the ten commandments.
These also offer up a social improvement on that which opposes the foregoing.











Please, please tell me Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the
genuine 'renovation of the heart' would/should include all of the above? I do
believe that some of y'all have things ass backwards with that upon which you
focus (signage wise and all).







- Original Message - 





From: Kevin
Deegan 





To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 24, 2006
07:54





Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Canadian Thought Police on the march

















The Canadian Guanatamo 





Better be careful with your social context on the INET Lance!





Are you hating an identifiable group?





And your comments on FUNDIES have hurt me, I understand it
as an attack on me  multiple groups of my friends. ; )





Do you have the telE for the Tribunal?











Justice in Canaduh





http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/





passed his second year of incarceration without charge





Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his accusers or to know
all the evidence against him.





Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are Internet-related











Canadian Human Rights Commission The truth in
some absolute sense really plays no role.
Rather, it is the social context in which the message
is delivered and heard which will determine the effect that the communication
will have on the listener. It is not the truth or falsity
per se that will evoke the emotion but rather how it is understood
by the recipient.

Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Don't look now but Canada
is changing - Group Think





Gary North would be proud of you folks.





He tried to bring in New Geneva
and by the looks of it you folks have actually suceeded!











Robert Martin,professor
of constitutional law at the University of Western Ontario Canada
now is a totalitarian theocracy. I see thi s as a
country ruled today by what I would describe as a secular state religion [of
political correctness]. Anything that is regarded as heresy or bl asphemy is not
tolerated.











Be careful there
have been Inquisitions against professors who attack American Foriegn policy.
Hope you do not get turned

Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise


Judy, you are as carnal a spirited babe as I have ever known. So get off your high horse. There is a difference between defending sin and admitting to its presence. 

-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

The old house was judged at the cross; if you want to hang on to it JD that's your demise
Probably why you defend carnality so adamantly also. Only the new men make it because
only they are fit for the Kingdom.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:18:28 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Selling the old house and building the new house is precisely what does not happen in new birth. What you moved to avoid is the real analogy. I am surprised that you think differently. 

jd

From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 







'Renovation of the Heart' by Dallas Willard. 

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 25, 2006 06:20
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march


Isnt that the truth? We sold our 100 year old house, for one thing, because we realized that the renovations would never be finished. As soon as you started to repair one thing it led to another and another. The whole house needed to be replaced one thing after another! So we built new. What an analogy of the difference between religion and being born again of the Holy Spirit. izzy





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:05 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march


There is no such thing as a "renovated" heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes me wonder

about you and your SS conversion. It is a new heart; the old has passed away - all things become new.



On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


My critique of this would be similar to your own. Granted that a civil society is an improvement on an uncivil one. Granted that a moral society is an improvement on an immoral one. Granted that some attempt to govern their lives by the so-called 'golden rule' or, by the ten commandments. These also offer up a social improvement on that which opposes the foregoing.



Please, please tell me Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the genuine 'renovation of the heart' would/should include all of the above? I do believe that some of y'all have things ass backwards with that upon which you focus (signage wise and all).


- Original Message - 

From: Kevin Deegan 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 24, 2006 07:54

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march





The Canadian Guanatamo 

Better be careful with your social context on the INET Lance!

Are you hating an identifiable group?

And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt me, I understand it as an attack on me  multiple groups of my friends. ; )

Do you have the telE for the Tribunal?



Justice in Canaduh

http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/

passed his second year of incarceration without charge

Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his accusers or to know all the evidence against him.

Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are Internet-related



Canadian Human Rights Commission "The truth in some absolute sense really plays no role. Rather, it is the social context in which the message is delivered and heard which will determine the effect that the communication will have on the listener. It is not the truth or falsity per se that will evoke the emotion but rather how it is understood by the recipient.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Don't look now but Canada is changing - Group Think

Gary North would be proud of you folks.

He tried to bring in New Geneva and by the looks of it you folks have actually suceeded!



Robert Martin,professor of constitutional law at the University of Western Ontario "Canada now is a totalitarian theocracy. I see this as a country ruled today by what I would describe as a secular state religion [of political correctness]. Anything that is regarded as heresy or bl
 asphemy is not tolerated."



Be careful there have been Inquisitions against professors who attack American Foriegn policy. Hope you do not get turned in, for your thoughts!



You Cant Say ThatCanadian thought police on the march.

By David E. Bernstein 



I've had the good fortune of spending this past month on the road promoting my new book about how anti-discrimination laws are eroding civil liberties. At the end of a recent talk about the book, an audience member asked whether I believe that freedom of _expression_ is really at risk in the United States from laws meant to aid women and minorities. The heart of my response is, "Look at what's happening in Canada. If we don't watch out, we're next."

The decline of freedom of _expression_ in Canada b

RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily









Id rather ride a high horse than
wallow with pigs. J iz











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006
6:39 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march







Judy, you are as carnal a spirited babe as I have ever known. So
get off your high horse. There is a difference between defending
sin and admitting to its presence. 











-- Original message -- 
From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



The old house was judged at the cross;
if you want to hang on to it JD that's your demise





Probably why you defend carnality so
adamantly also. Only the new men make it because





only they are fit for the Kingdom.











On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:18:28 + [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:







Selling the old house and building the new house is precisely what does
not happen in new birth. What you moved to avoid is the real
analogy. I am surprised that you think differently. 











jd











From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



'Renovation of the Heart' by Dallas Willard. 







- Original Message - 





From: ShieldsFamily






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 25, 2006
06:20





Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
Canadian Thought Police on the march









Isnt that the truth? We sold our
100 year old house, for one thing, because we realized that the renovations
would never be finished. As soon as you started to repair one thing it
led to another and another. The whole house needed to be replaced one
thing after another! So we built new. What an analogy of the difference
between religion and being born again of the Holy Spirit. izzy











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:05
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march







There is no such thing as a
renovated heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes me wonder





about you and your SS conversion.
It is a new heart; the old has passed away - all things become new.











On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:







My critique of this would be similar to your own. Granted
that a civil society is an improvement on an uncivil one. Granted that a moral
society is an improvement on an immoral one. Granted that some attempt to
govern their lives by the so-called 'golden rule' or, by the ten commandments.
These also offer up a social improvement on that which opposes the foregoing.











Please, please tell me Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the
genuine 'renovation of the heart' would/should include all of the above? I do
believe that some of y'all have things ass backwards with that upon which you
focus (signage wise and all).







- Original Message - 





From: Kevin
Deegan 





To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 24, 2006
07:54





Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Canadian Thought Police on the march

















The Canadian Guanatamo 





Better be careful with your social context on the INET Lance!





Are you hating an identifiable group?





And your comments on FUNDIES have hurt me, I understand it
as an attack on me  multiple groups of my friends. ; )





Do you have the telE for the Tribunal?











Justice in Canaduh





http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/





passed his second year of incarceration without charge





Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his accusers or to know
all the evidence against him.





Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are Internet-related











Canadian Human Rights Commission The truth in
some absolute sense really plays no role.
Rather, it is the social context in which the message
is delivered and heard which will determine the effect that the communication
will have on the listener. It is not the truth or falsity
per se that will evoke the emotion but rather how it is understood
by the recipient.

Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Don't look now but Canada
is changing - Group Think





Gary North would be proud of you folks.





He tried to bring in New Geneva and by the looks of it you folks have
actually suceeded!











Robert Martin,professor
of constitutional law at the University
of Western Ontario
Canada
now is a totalitarian theocracy. I see this as a country
ruled today by what I would describe as a secular state religion [of political
correctness]. Anything that is regarded as heresy or bl asphemy is not
tolerated.











Be careful there
have been Inquisitions against professors who attack American Foriegn policy.
Hope you do not get turned in, for your thoughts!











You Cant Say That
Canadian thought police on the march.





By David E. Bernstein












I've

Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor




Then Willard will have to re evaluate - in this area 
anyway
God is not in the business of renovation. He does 
not put new wine in old wineskins. It's a new covenant
(Heb 8:8) for a new ppl in Christ (see 2 Cor 5:17; 2 
Pet 1:4; Eph 4:24; Col 3:10; Gal 6:15). The heavens
and earth will not be renovated either, they will also 
be made new (see (2 Pet 3:13, Rev 21:1). You believe
Willard if you want to - I prefer the higher 
authority.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:08:59 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  'Renovation of the Heart' by Dallas Willard. 
  
  
From: ShieldsFamily 


Isnt that the 
truth? We sold our 100 year old house, for one thing, because we realized 
that the renovations would never be finished. As soon as you started 
to repair one thing it led to another and another. The whole house 
needed to be replaced one thing after another! So we built new. What 
an analogy of the difference between religion and being born again of the 
Holy Spirit. izzy





From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Judy 
Taylor

There is no such thing as a 
"renovated" heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes me 
wonder

about you and your SS 
conversion. It is a new heart; the old has passed away - all things 
become new.



On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  My critique of this would be 
  similar to your own. Granted that a civil society is an improvement on an 
  uncivil one. Granted that a moral society is an improvement on an immoral 
  one. Granted that some attempt to govern their lives by the so-called 
  'golden rule' or, by the ten commandments. These also offer up a social 
  improvement on that which opposes the 
  foregoing.
  
  
  
  Please, please tell me Kevin, 
  Judy, David and Iz that the genuine 'renovation of the heart' would/should 
  include all of the above? I do believe that some of y'all have things ass 
  backwards with that upon which you focus (signage wise and 
  all).
  

- Original Message - 


From: Kevin Deegan 


To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 


Sent: 
March 24, 2006 07:54

    Subject: Re: 
    [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the 
march





The Canadian 
Guanatamo 

Better be careful with your social context on 
the INET Lance!

Are you hating an identifiable 
group?

And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt me, I 
understand it as an attack on me  multiple groups of my friends. ; 
)

Do you have the telE for the 
Tribunal?



Justice in 
Canaduh

http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/

passed his second year of incarceration without 
charge

Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his 
accusers or to know all the evidence against 
him.

Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are 
Internet-related



Canadian Human 
Rights Commission "The truth in 
some absolute sense really plays no 
role. Rather, it is the social 
context in which the message is delivered and 
heard which will determine the effect that the communication will have 
on the listener. It is not the truth or 
falsity per se that will evoke the emotion 
but rather how it is 
understood by the 
recipient.Kevin Deegan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
  Don't look now 
  but Canada is changing - Group 
  Think
  
  Gary North would 
  be proud of you folks.
  
  He 
  tried to bring in New Geneva and by the looks of it you folks have 
  actually suceeded!
  
  
  
  Robert 
  Martin,professor of constitutional law at the University of Western Ontario "Canada now is a 
  totalitarian theocracy. I see this as a country ruled today by what I 
  would describe as a secular state religion [of political correctness]. 
  Anything that is regarded as 
  heresy or blasphemy is 
  not tolerated."
  
  
  
  Be careful there have been 
  Inquisitions against professors who attack American Foriegn policy. 
  Hope you do not get turned in, for your 
  thoughts!

Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor

You don't know me JD, never have and never will ... not
at this rate anyway
As a man believeth in his heart, so is he

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:39:15 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Judy, you are as carnal a spirited babe as I have ever known. So
get off your high horse. There is a difference between defending
sin and admitting to its presence.

From:
Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The old house was judged at the cross; if you want
to hang on to it JD that's your demise
Probably why you defend carnality so adamantly
also. Only the new men make it because
only they are fit for the Kingdom.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:18:28 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Selling the old house and building the new house is precisely what
does not happen in new birth. What you moved to avoid is
the real analogy. I am surprised that you think differently.

From:
"Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

'Renovation of the Heart' by Dallas
Willard.

- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: March 25, 2006 06:20
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march

Isnt that
the truth? We sold our 100 year old house, for one thing, because we
realized that the renovations would never be finished. As soon
as you started to repair one thing it led to another and
another. The whole house needed to be replaced one thing after
another! So we built new. What an analogy of the difference
between religion and being born again of the Holy Spirit.
izzy

From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy
TaylorSent: Friday,
March 24, 2006 6:05 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian
Thought Police on the march

There is no such
thing as a "renovated" heart Lance; more misunderstanding which makes
me wonder

about you and
your SS conversion. It is a new heart; the old has passed away -
all things become new.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:06:30 -0500 "Lance
Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

My critique of this
would be similar to your own. Granted that a civil society is an
improvement on an uncivil one. Granted that a moral society is an
improvement on an immoral one. Granted that some attempt to govern
their lives by the so-called 'golden rule' or, by the ten
commandments. These also offer up a social improvement on that which
opposes the foregoing.

Please, please tell me
Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the genuine 'renovation of the heart'
would/should include all of the above? I do believe that some of
y'all have things ass backwards with that upon which you focus
(signage wise and all).

- Original Message
-

From: Kevin Deegan

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: March 24, 2006
07:54

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Canadian Thought Police on the
march

The Canadian
Guanatamo

Better be careful with your social context
on the INET Lance!

Are you hating an identifiable
group?

And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt
me, I understand it as an attack on me multiple groups of my
friends. ; )

Do you have the telE for the
Tribunal?

Justice in
Canaduh

http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/

passed his second year of incarceration
without charge

Zündel was denied the right to
cross-examine his accusers or to know all the evidence against
him.

Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor

And why is it present? Not enough power emanating
from the cross to get rid of it yet?
The scripture Izzy posted this morning about the
Kingdom suffering violence and the violent taking
it by force is all about sin JD. If you don't
hate it as much as God does in your life and the lives of
others you will never press in; the word is #971 Blazo
- means to overpower, compel, press in with
energy.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:39:15 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

There is a difference between defending sin and admitting to its
presence.