Re: Symbola font (was: James Kass and Code2000 font)

2010-10-25 Thread Andrew West
On 24 October 2010 14:45, Peter Constable peter...@microsoft.com wrote:

 And I'd advise people to upgrade from Windows XP.

The snide remark seems a little uncalled for. There are many reasons
why people cannot or will not upgrade from XP, and I was simply
pointing out an issue that may affect some users. Anyhow, I would
advise people to be cautious about upgrading from XP in case they
accidentally upgrade to Windows 7, which many people on this list,
especially anyone who wants to see any of the newly encoded emoji
characters, might consider not fit for purpose:

http://babelstone.blogspot.com/2010/05/prototyping-tangut-imes-or-why-windows.html

Andrew



RE: Symbola font (was: James Kass and Code2000 font)

2010-10-25 Thread Peter Constable
From: Andrew West [mailto:andrewcw...@gmail.com] 

 And I'd advise people to upgrade from Windows XP.

 The snide remark seems a little uncalled for. There are 
 many reasons why people cannot or will not upgrade 
 from XP, and I was simply pointing out an issue that may 
 affect some users. 

My comment was not intended to be snide. You were discussing crashes on XP; 
that represents both reliability and security concerns. Windows 7 is much more 
reliable and secure than XP.


Anyhow, I would advise people to be cautious about upgrading from XP in case 
they accidentally upgrade to Windows 7, which many people on this list, 
especially anyone who wants to see any of the newly encoded emoji characters, 
might consider not fit for purpose:

 http://babelstone.blogspot.com/2010/05/prototyping-tangut-imes-or-why-windows.html

You've commented on a known bug in the Windows 7 release affecting code points 
that were not encoded in Unicode 5.1. A fix for unsupported code points is 
hardly the type of thing you can expect to see mentioned in broadly-targeted 
information about SP1. Even so, the fix has already gone into the SP1 code.



Peter




Re: Symbola font (was: James Kass and Code2000 font)

2010-10-24 Thread Andrew West
On 13 October 2010 21:41, Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13 October 2010 17:48, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote:

 At the risk of spreading unsubstantiated FUD, I experienced system
 crashes (BSOD) twice in one day while trying to configure the
 composite-font feature in BabelPad 6.0.0.0 (beta D) to use Symbola 6.00
 on Windows XP SP3.

 Unfortunately this is a known issue with BabelPad and BabelMap, and
 not the fault of Symbola.

This problem has been fixed in the new Unicode 6.0 versions of
BabelMap and BabelPad that I finally released today.

http://babelstone.blogspot.com/2010/10/babelpad-and-babelmap-version-6000.html

However, further testing has indicated that standard Windows
applications such as Notepad may blue screen crash on some systems
when attempting to render U+1F5FD (Statue of Liberty, but replaced by
a glyph for the Angel of Death in Symbola) with Symbola version 6.00
at high point sizes (pasting 12 x U+1F5FD into Notepad with font set
to Symbola 72pts reliably crashes my Windows XP machine, but not my
Vista machine). So I advise people to use the Symbola font with
caution.

Andrew



RE: Symbola font (was: James Kass and Code2000 font)

2010-10-24 Thread Peter Constable
From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf 
Of Andrew West

 However, further testing has indicated that standard Windows applications 
 such as Notepad may blue screen crash on some systems when attempting 
 to render U+1F5FD (Statue of Liberty, but replaced by a glyph for the Angel 
 of Death in Symbola) with Symbola version 6.00 at high point sizes (pasting 
 12 x U+1F5FD into Notepad with font set to Symbola 72pts reliably crashes 
 my Windows XP machine, but not my Vista machine). So I advise people to 
 use the Symbola font with caution.

And I'd advise people to upgrade from Windows XP.



Peter






Re: Symbola font (was: James Kass and Code2000 font)

2010-10-24 Thread Andrew West
On 24 October 2010 13:56, Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com wrote:

 However, further testing has indicated that standard Windows
 applications such as Notepad may blue screen crash on some systems
 when attempting to render U+1F5FD (Statue of Liberty, but replaced by
 a glyph for the Angel of Death in Symbola) with Symbola version 6.00
 at high point sizes (pasting 12 x U+1F5FD into Notepad with font set
 to Symbola 72pts reliably crashes my Windows XP machine, but not my
 Vista machine). So I advise people to use the Symbola font with
 caution.

Symbola has now been updated to version 6.01 which replaces the
problematic glyphs at U+1F5FB through U+1F5FF with the correct glyphs,
and now seems to be safe to use.

Andrew



Symbola font (was: James Kass and Code2000 font)

2010-10-13 Thread Doug Ewell
Alan Wood alanmwood at yahoo dot co dot uk wrote:

 Incidentally, many of the new symbols in Unicode 6 are available in
 the Symbola font from George Douros, and they can be seen in Firefox:
 http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

At the risk of spreading unsubstantiated FUD, I experienced system
crashes (BSOD) twice in one day while trying to configure the
composite-font feature in BabelPad 6.0.0.0 (beta D) to use Symbola 6.00
on Windows XP SP3.

I don't know yet whether the problem was with the font or BabelPad (or
something else), but I hadn't seen a BSOD on that machine for six months
or more.  Given the stability of BabelPad, even beta copies, I'm
inclined to suspect the font.

--
Doug Ewell | Thornton, Colorado, USA | http://www.ewellic.org
RFC 5645, 4645, UTN #14 | ietf-languages @ is dot gd slash 2kf0s ­






Re: Symbola font (was: James Kass and Code2000 font)

2010-10-13 Thread Andrew West
On 13 October 2010 17:48, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote:

 Incidentally, many of the new symbols in Unicode 6 are available in
 the Symbola font from George Douros, and they can be seen in Firefox:
 http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

 At the risk of spreading unsubstantiated FUD, I experienced system
 crashes (BSOD) twice in one day while trying to configure the
 composite-font feature in BabelPad 6.0.0.0 (beta D) to use Symbola 6.00
 on Windows XP SP3.

 I don't know yet whether the problem was with the font or BabelPad (or
 something else), but I hadn't seen a BSOD on that machine for six months
 or more.  Given the stability of BabelPad, even beta copies, I'm
 inclined to suspect the font.

Unfortunately this is a known issue with BabelPad and BabelMap, and
not the fault of Symbola. The blue screen crash occurs somewhere
within a call to ExtTextOutW() when sandwiched between BeginPath() and
EndPath(), when an attempt is made to render one of the mega-complex
glyphs in Symbola (e.g. the glyph for U+1F5FD STATUE OF LIBERTY ...
which in fact is not the Statue of Liberty, which is actually at
U+FFFED). This is the reason why the Unicode 6.0 betas of
BabelMap/BabelPad have been taken off line, and their release delayed
for a few days whilst I implement an alternate strategy. My apologies
to any users who encounter this issue.

Andrew




James Kass and Code2000 font

2010-10-12 Thread Alan Wood
I am used to relying on fonts from James Kass to display new Unicode 
characters, 
but his fonts have not been updated for Unicode 5.2 yet, and he has not 
contributed to this list for some time.

I have e-mailed him, but he has not replied, which is not usual for James.

Does anyone know what has happened to James?

Incidentally, many of the new symbols in Unicode 6 are available in the Symbola 
font from George Douros, and they can be seen in Firefox:
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

Regards

Alan Wood
http://www.alanwood.net (Unicode, special characters, pesticide names) 


  




Re: The Code2000 font.

2001-04-11 Thread Dennis L. Goyette


Is there a Linux version of this font or a way to convert it for linux???


James Kass wrote:

 Marco Cimarosti wrote about the Code2000 font, and
 so did 11digitboy.
 
 There is room for improvement in the font and I will 
 consider your helpful comments.
 
 I'll respond to specific issues off-list and request that
 anyone who wants to discuss the font's merits and/or
 shortcomings contact me privately.
 
 Best regards,
 
 James Kass,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 





Re: The Code2000 font.

2001-04-11 Thread David Starner

On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:38:55AM -0400, Dennis L. Goyette wrote:
 
 Is there a Linux version of this font or a way to convert it for linux???

It's TrueType - use it with XFree86 4.0, or xfstt. Alternately, you can
convert it with ttf2bdf from the freetype project.

-- 
David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org
"I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and 
laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg




Re: The Code2000 font.

2001-04-11 Thread Dennis L. Goyette

ok thanks.. how does linux unzip .zip files... does tar do it or is 
there another command???



David Starner wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:38:55AM -0400, Dennis L. Goyette wrote:
 
 Is there a Linux version of this font or a way to convert it for linux???
 
 
 It's TrueType - use it with XFree86 4.0, or xfstt. Alternately, you can
 convert it with ttf2bdf from the freetype project.
 





Re: The Code2000 font.

2001-04-10 Thread James Kass


Marco Cimarosti wrote about the Code2000 font, and
so did 11digitboy.

There is room for improvement in the font and I will 
consider your helpful comments.

I'll respond to specific issues off-list and request that
anyone who wants to discuss the font's merits and/or
shortcomings contact me privately.

Best regards,

James Kass,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]