Re: Colors in LiveCode
Hello Marck, I don't understand fonctionnalities of color-converter. I can't understand how can color-converter can change more than 20 colors of an images in one click !? René Le 20 sept. 2010 à 19:12, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Hi René, I don't think so. I made a tool for Mac, which lets you assign colour profiles. Export your image from Rev as PNG and assign a colour profile. You can fine the tool at http://www.color-converter.com . You might also be able to do the same with other tools. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce Create installers for Mac and Windows on *every* Rev-compatible platform. No additional software needed. On 20 sep 2010, at 19:09, René Micout wrote: It is good ! But I have to (re)create more than 20 images (pixel by pixel) in 1 project (and the others)... I created many pieces of Macintosh interface missing in RunRev (little sliders by example...) all images must be redrawn... I think I have done... But no... :-( Snif... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
Hi René, Please, have a look at the other utility, CC File Converter. It lets you add or change color profiles (but it is Mac-only). There might be other utilities for Windows that can do the same. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce Create installers for Mac and Windows on *every* Rev-compatible platform. No additional software needed. On 21 sep 2010, at 09:05, René Micout wrote: Hello Marck, I don't understand fonctionnalities of color-converter. I can't understand how can color-converter can change more than 20 colors of an images in one click !? René ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
Thank you Mark I solved my problem with Pixelmator. The setting was empirical at first, but then it worked. All this is still annoying, almost every new version of Revolution (Pardon LiveCode) is the same thing ... Bon souvenir de Paris René Le 21 sept. 2010 à 10:45, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Hi René, Please, have a look at the other utility, CC File Converter. It lets you add or change color profiles (but it is Mac-only). There might be other utilities for Windows that can do the same. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce Create installers for Mac and Windows on *every* Rev-compatible platform. No additional software needed. On 21 sep 2010, at 09:05, René Micout wrote: Hello Marck, I don't understand fonctionnalities of color-converter. I can't understand how can color-converter can change more than 20 colors of an images in one click !? René ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
On 21 Sep 2010, at 10:33, René Micout wrote: All this is still annoying, almost every new version of Revolution (Pardon LiveCode) is the same thing ... On the other hand, some of us have been waiting *five years* for ICC profile support in Rev/LiveCode, because it's not possible to do proper photographic apps without it! Ian___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
I have not yet tried to import new images, I just flunked the colors of my old images. I hope the new profile solves all the problems of inconsistency! :-) or :-( ?? Le 21 sept. 2010 à 11:56, Ian Wood a écrit : On 21 Sep 2010, at 10:33, René Micout wrote: All this is still annoying, almost every new version of Revolution (Pardon LiveCode) is the same thing ... On the other hand, some of us have been waiting *five years* for ICC profile support in Rev/LiveCode, because it's not possible to do proper photographic apps without it! Ian___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
On 21/09/2010 10:33, René Micout wrote: All this is still annoying, almost every new version of Revolution (Pardon LiveCode) is the same thing ... This is the problem when fixing a bug... sometimes that means breaking stacks that were adapted to work with the previous behaviour. But for me this is a massive upgrade because now Rev/LiveCode can read CYMK images. So while I accept some eggs have been broken, I'm enjoying the delicious omelette! Ben (who's not sure whether that the egg/omelette phrase is only in English...) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
Hi Ben, On 21/09/2010 10:33, René Micout wrote: All this is still annoying, almost every new version of Revolution (Pardon LiveCode) is the same thing ... This is the problem when fixing a bug... sometimes that means breaking stacks that were adapted to work with the previous behaviour. But for me this is a massive upgrade because now Rev/LiveCode can read CYMK images. So while I accept some eggs have been broken, I'm enjoying the delicious omelette! Ben (who's not sure whether that the egg/omelette phrase is only in English...) I am sure in french this is something with CHEESE! :-D Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web Deployment
Yes - should be interesting to see how that goes. $199 for being able to create revWeb plugin deployment. If RunRev are right, then there will be plenty of people willing to pay this - they know their customers. I'll stick my neck out here and disagree, regardless of what the customer surveys indicate, I'd bet revWeb sales do not meet expectations, and that not many of the people that express interest in this deployment option will convert to paying customers. On 21 September 2010 04:52, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.comwrote: revWeb On 21/09/2010, at 1:49 PM, jim sims wrote: One of the items in the My Products list is titled Web Deployment. Can anyone explain what that item refers to? What that product, Web Deployment is? sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web Deployment
I think it is the On-Rev package that has been offered for quite some time now and many have purchased it already so if they continue to develop it more will likely purchase it and with the right improvements it can exceed their sales expectations. -=JB=- On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:22 AM, David Bovill wrote: Yes - should be interesting to see how that goes. $199 for being able to create revWeb plugin deployment. If RunRev are right, then there will be plenty of people willing to pay this - they know their customers. I'll stick my neck out here and disagree, regardless of what the customer surveys indicate, I'd bet revWeb sales do not meet expectations, and that not many of the people that express interest in this deployment option will convert to paying customers. On 21 September 2010 04:52, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.comwrote: revWeb On 21/09/2010, at 1:49 PM, jim sims wrote: One of the items in the My Products list is titled Web Deployment. Can anyone explain what that item refers to? What that product, Web Deployment is? sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
Monte, I ended up giving up and using Ralf's TextMate bundle+Cyberduck. Same there. The last version of CyberDuck seems to support the FTPS protocol but when i tried it against on-rev, the list directory works but nor the download/edit and upload files sems to work for me. Any tough about the way to go (needed opened ports or so...) ? Best regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
In french : on ne fait pas d'omelette sans casser des œufs we do not make an omelet without breaking eggs and, YES, there is omelette with cheese ! ;-) Le 21 sept. 2010 à 12:40, Klaus on-rev a écrit : Hi Ben, On 21/09/2010 10:33, René Micout wrote: All this is still annoying, almost every new version of Revolution (Pardon LiveCode) is the same thing ... This is the problem when fixing a bug... sometimes that means breaking stacks that were adapted to work with the previous behaviour. But for me this is a massive upgrade because now Rev/LiveCode can read CYMK images. So while I accept some eggs have been broken, I'm enjoying the delicious omelette! Ben (who's not sure whether that the egg/omelette phrase is only in English...) I am sure in french this is something with CHEESE! :-D Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
Same there. The last version of CyberDuck seems to support the FTPS protocol but when i tried it against on-rev, the list directory works but nor the download/edit and upload files sems to work for me. Any tough about the way to go (needed opened ports or so...) ? Haven't tried sorry. -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
Bonjour René, In french : on ne fait pas d'omelette sans casser des œufs we do not make an omelet without breaking eggs and, YES, there is omelette with cheese ! ;-) I KNEW I was right! :-D Le 21 sept. 2010 à 12:40, Klaus on-rev a écrit : Hi Ben, On 21/09/2010 10:33, René Micout wrote: All this is still annoying, almost every new version of Revolution (Pardon LiveCode) is the same thing ... This is the problem when fixing a bug... sometimes that means breaking stacks that were adapted to work with the previous behaviour. But for me this is a massive upgrade because now Rev/LiveCode can read CYMK images. So while I accept some eggs have been broken, I'm enjoying the delicious omelette! Ben (who's not sure whether that the egg/omelette phrase is only in English...) I am sure in french this is something with CHEESE! :-D Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
On the windows side the Mozilla FireFTP plugin works for me against on-rev. Not sure if the plugin exists for the mac version of FireFox but the service does respond to FTP transfers for me... Wayne On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Same there. The last version of CyberDuck seems to support the FTPS protocol but when i tried it against on-rev, the list directory works but nor the download/edit and upload files sems to work for me. Any tough about the way to go (needed opened ports or so...) ? Haven't tried sorry. -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
It does not take a big risk by combining France and Cheese ;-) Le 21 sept. 2010 à 14:29, Klaus on-rev a écrit : Bonjour René, In french : on ne fait pas d'omelette sans casser des œufs we do not make an omelet without breaking eggs and, YES, there is omelette with cheese ! ;-) I KNEW I was right! :-D Le 21 sept. 2010 à 12:40, Klaus on-rev a écrit : Hi Ben, On 21/09/2010 10:33, René Micout wrote: All this is still annoying, almost every new version of Revolution (Pardon LiveCode) is the same thing ... This is the problem when fixing a bug... sometimes that means breaking stacks that were adapted to work with the previous behaviour. But for me this is a massive upgrade because now Rev/LiveCode can read CYMK images. So while I accept some eggs have been broken, I'm enjoying the delicious omelette! Ben (who's not sure whether that the egg/omelette phrase is only in English...) I am sure in french this is something with CHEESE! :-D Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web Deployment
On 21 September 2010 12:28, -=JB=- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I think it is the On-Rev package that has been offered for quite some time now and many have purchased it already so if they continue to develop it more will likely purchase it and with the right improvements it can exceed their sales expectations. That would make sense - On-Rev has (commercial) potential, but I don't think it is the case. If you look at the Standalone Settings (I am viewing it with a trial license) - the Web settings that allow you to create a revWeb plugin has the option to purchase a $199 upgrade - I assume this is in order to let you make these plugins as this export option has nothing to do with using On-Rev. It is not clear, if you can make them for non-commercial use, but it looks like the standalone builder will stop making revWeb plugins after the trial expires? Personally I can (sort of) imagine people paying $30 for the ability to make revWeb plugins - I really don't get this $199 pricing. The rest seems logical to me, and I do very much like the branding LiveCode, but it seems the current pricing strategy will have two clear outcomes: 1. It will clobber Linux sales - I think the bundles would be better Mac+Linux and Windows+Linux. 2. Deter future revWeb plugin development when it becomes clear how many people will pay for it as an isolated feature. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
Mark Wieder mwie...@... writes: All- Is anyone able to use the on-rev client? I'm hanging on Connecting to server... Have to force-quit it. I used it yesterday and just tried it today and it worked fine. Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web Deployment
Corporate clients might pay for web deployment. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:08 AM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv wrote: On 21 September 2010 12:28, -=JB=- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I think it is the On-Rev package that has been offered for quite some time now and many have purchased it already so if they continue to develop it more will likely purchase it and with the right improvements it can exceed their sales expectations. That would make sense - On-Rev has (commercial) potential, but I don't think it is the case. If you look at the Standalone Settings (I am viewing it with a trial license) - the Web settings that allow you to create a revWeb plugin has the option to purchase a $199 upgrade - I assume this is in order to let you make these plugins as this export option has nothing to do with using On-Rev. It is not clear, if you can make them for non-commercial use, but it looks like the standalone builder will stop making revWeb plugins after the trial expires? Personally I can (sort of) imagine people paying $30 for the ability to make revWeb plugins - I really don't get this $199 pricing. The rest seems logical to me, and I do very much like the branding LiveCode, but it seems the current pricing strategy will have two clear outcomes: 1. It will clobber Linux sales - I think the bundles would be better Mac+Linux and Windows+Linux. 2. Deter future revWeb plugin development when it becomes clear how many people will pay for it as an isolated feature. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
On 20/09/2010 20:02, Timothy Miller gand...@doctortimothymiller.com wrote: I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? The ownership has not changed. From the FAQ: The new name more accurately conveys the benefits that are at the core of the LiveCode platform: a fast, compile-free workflow. This core message is more tightly associated with the unique selling points that are so important to our customer base, including enabling a highly productive workflow, outstanding ease-of-use, very-high-level English-like language and flexible delivery to multiple platforms and devices from a single code base. We found that since introducing the ³Rev² prefix we have introduced many new products and services, notably including revMobile and revServer. The product lineup was rapidly becoming complex and difficult to explain. These products are now simply deployment packs for LiveCode. This new lineup is much easier for both existing and new customers to understand. LiveCode better conveys our mission, focus and technology. The LiveCode name will be easier to locate in Internet searches. Rather than searching for ³Rev² or ³Revolution² which are buried with other unrelated items, or searching individually for ³revMedia², ³revStudio² or ³revMobile², you can now perform a single search for ³LiveCode². Much of the brand recognition we have to date centers around the company name ³RunRev², which is not changing. We haven¹t changed the product name in the decade since its introduction (we have introduced variants but they have always had ³Rev² or ³Revolution² in the name). We believe that by centering all focus on a single, searchable word, the new brand will quickly overtake the brand recognition previously associated with ³Rev² or ³Revolution² which was actually quite difficult to brand. I'll elaborate on that FAQ with a specific example that might be helpful: One of the biggest practical issues we were coming up against with the old name was it searchability. For example, we've had 5x the press coverage over the last year than we had in the previous year, as measured by articles and site traffic. And yet there is no one search term you can use to find it. We've had coverage for revMobile, coverage for revEnterprise and in spite of my spending an hour on the phone with a prominent journalist who wrote a great review, he called it the wrong name. RunRev is the most used term and press are using it to describe the product name because they want something unique, but even that use is inconsistent. Rev is smart and catchy but go and search for that in Google now and you'll see the problem. This whole situation is was just not workable going forward. LiveCode is a fanstastic, strong, clear new name that will quickly become highly searchable. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
Thanks for this, Andre. My last app use this very extensively and so..., it's your fault :-) ($_POST_RAW is my favorite global, I convinced them on creating that while I was there in Edinburgh during the weeks before the conference, without it you can't do uploads) -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
Monday, September 20, 2010, 6:23:05 PM, I wrote: Is anyone able to use the on-rev client? I'm hanging on Connecting to server... Have to force-quit it. Just for the record, I filed a trouble ticket with support and they turned the on-rev client support back on again. No longer hangs. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
On 09/21/2010 06:18 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: On 20/09/2010 20:02, Timothy Millergand...@doctortimothymiller.com wrote: I don't understand the significance of the name change to LiveCode. Is this an internal reorganization or marketing strategy? Or has ownership changed? The ownership has not changed. From the FAQ: The new name more accurately conveys the benefits that are at the core of the LiveCode platform: a fast, compile-free workflow. This core message is more tightly associated with the unique selling points that are so important to our customer base, including enabling a highly productive workflow, outstanding ease-of-use, very-high-level English-like language and flexible delivery to multiple platforms and devices from a single code base. We found that since introducing the ³Rev² prefix we have introduced many new products and services, notably including revMobile and revServer. The product lineup was rapidly becoming complex and difficult to explain. These products are now simply deployment packs for LiveCode. This new lineup is much easier for both existing and new customers to understand. LiveCode better conveys our mission, focus and technology. The LiveCode name will be easier to locate in Internet searches. Rather than searching for ³Rev² or ³Revolution² which are buried with other unrelated items, or searching individually for ³revMedia², ³revStudio² or ³revMobile², you can now perform a single search for ³LiveCode². Much of the brand recognition we have to date centers around the company name ³RunRev², which is not changing. We haven¹t changed the product name in the decade since its introduction (we have introduced variants but they have always had ³Rev² or ³Revolution² in the name). We believe that by centering all focus on a single, searchable word, the new brand will quickly overtake the brand recognition previously associated with ³Rev² or ³Revolution² which was actually quite difficult to brand. I'll elaborate on that FAQ with a specific example that might be helpful: One of the biggest practical issues we were coming up against with the old name was it searchability. For example, we've had 5x the press coverage over the last year than we had in the previous year, as measured by articles and site traffic. And yet there is no one search term you can use to find it. We've had coverage for revMobile, coverage for revEnterprise and in spite of my spending an hour on the phone with a prominent journalist who wrote a great review, he called it the wrong name. RunRev is the most used term and press are using it to describe the product name because they want something unique, but even that use is inconsistent. Rev is smart and catchy but go and search for that in Google now and you'll see the problem. This whole situation is was just not workable going forward. LiveCode is a fanstastic, strong, clear new name that will quickly become highly searchable. Kind regards, Kevin That's a very cogent and well thought-out justification. Thank you. sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
LiveCode 4.5 License model
Hi all, Has anyone checked out runrev's store as yet? To navigate to it, open LiveCode and access Help | Buy a License... It will take you directly there. Mouse over the LiveCode Bundle package icons. You will see product information in a flyout. Now mouse over the LiveCode 4.5 Complete for the Commercial product. Notice the pricing at the bottom of the flyover. The yearly maintenance fee for this product is now US$749. How does that make you feel? Unless I'm mistaken on this yearly maintenance fee, I don't think I'll be maintaining my yearly upgrades from here on out. I can't afford that money, when I don't have a product that I'm selling. Maybe that will have to change for me. What about those building and distributing freeware or shareware? I don't see a license model for that. Now unless you use the Personal license, that will most probably work for you. But the user will have a nag screen on use of the freeware. Now for those who are selling products built in (now) LiveCode, do you realize how much your costs have increased? I'm just saying... so you are all aware. Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
On 09/21/2010 08:00 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: Hi all, Has anyone checked out runrev's store as yet? To navigate to it, open LiveCode and access Help | Buy a License... It will take you directly there. Mouse over the LiveCode Bundle package icons. You will see product information in a flyout. Now mouse over the LiveCode 4.5 Complete for the Commercial product. Notice the pricing at the bottom of the flyover. The yearly maintenance fee for this product is now US$749. How does that make you feel? Unless I'm mistaken on this yearly maintenance fee, I don't think I'll be maintaining my yearly upgrades from here on out. I can't afford that money, when I don't have a product that I'm selling. Maybe that will have to change for me. What about those building and distributing freeware or shareware? I don't see a license model for that. Now unless you use the Personal license, that will most probably work for you. But the user will have a nag screen on use of the freeware. Now for those who are selling products built in (now) LiveCode, do you realize how much your costs have increased? I'm just saying... so you are all aware. Regards, Mark Stuart ___ Well, nothing really wrong with sticking with RunRev 4.0: I make almost all my freeware using RunRev 2.0.1 ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: Mouse over the LiveCode Bundle package icons. You will see product information in a flyout. Now mouse over the LiveCode 4.5 Complete for the Commercial product. Notice the pricing at the bottom of the flyover. The yearly maintenance fee for this product is now US$749. If you are using Rev to deploy commercial products to Desktop, Web, Mobile and Server plus using the LiveCode Developer program I don't think the price is bad at all. If you don't need all of those output options or don't want the subscription then just buy the output options you need in the store and there is no yearly subscription fee. Then you just have to pay when you want to upgrade if a newer version comes out that you want. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
Just for comparison, my annual SA price for RADStudio from Embarcadero is $1320. Best wishes Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.comwrote: On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: Mouse over the LiveCode Bundle package icons. You will see product information in a flyout. Now mouse over the LiveCode 4.5 Complete for the Commercial product. Notice the pricing at the bottom of the flyover. The yearly maintenance fee for this product is now US$749. If you are using Rev to deploy commercial products to Desktop, Web, Mobile and Server plus using the LiveCode Developer program I don't think the price is bad at all. If you don't need all of those output options or don't want the subscription then just buy the output options you need in the store and there is no yearly subscription fee. Then you just have to pay when you want to upgrade if a newer version comes out that you want. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
I'm feeling the same as well... :( --- On Tue, 21/9/10, Mark Stuart mstu...@adaptcrm.com wrote: From: Mark Stuart mstu...@adaptcrm.com Subject: LiveCode 4.5 License model To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, 21 September, 2010, 5:00 PM Hi all, Has anyone checked out runrev's store as yet? To navigate to it, open LiveCode and access Help | Buy a License... It will take you directly there. Mouse over the LiveCode Bundle package icons. You will see product information in a flyout. Now mouse over the LiveCode 4.5 Complete for the Commercial product. Notice the pricing at the bottom of the flyover. The yearly maintenance fee for this product is now US$749. How does that make you feel? Unless I'm mistaken on this yearly maintenance fee, I don't think I'll be maintaining my yearly upgrades from here on out. I can't afford that money, when I don't have a product that I'm selling. Maybe that will have to change for me. What about those building and distributing freeware or shareware? I don't see a license model for that. Now unless you use the Personal license, that will most probably work for you. But the user will have a nag screen on use of the freeware. Now for those who are selling products built in (now) LiveCode, do you realize how much your costs have increased? I'm just saying... so you are all aware. Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
then use the newest Transmit by Panic http://panic.com/transmit/. $40 - Works great with Textmate and Ralf's plugin or Coda . On 21 September 2010 04:34, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote: Monte, I ended up giving up and using Ralf's TextMate bundle+Cyberduck. Same there. The last version of CyberDuck seems to support the FTPS protocol but when i tried it against on-rev, the list directory works but nor the download/edit and upload files sems to work for me. Any tough about the way to go (needed opened ports or so...) ? Best regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
Stephen- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:32:46 AM, you wrote: then use the newest Transmit by Panic http://panic.com/transmit/. $40 - Works great with Textmate and Ralf's plugin or Coda . Good to know, although I haven't had problems with ftp and on-rev. It's debugging that stumped me since I needed to look at variables in situ. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Free RevMedia
??? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
On 9/21/10 12:00 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: Hi all, Has anyone checked out runrev's store as yet? To navigate to it, open LiveCode and access Help | Buy a License... It will take you directly there. Mouse over the LiveCode Bundle package icons. You will see product information in a flyout. Now mouse over the LiveCode 4.5 Complete for the Commercial product. Notice the pricing at the bottom of the flyover. The yearly maintenance fee for this product is now US$749. LiveCode Complete doesn't equate to your current Enterprise license, it includes *everything* -- mobile, all three desktop options, web server, developer program, etc. This is a savings over purchasing each package separately. Your curent Enterprise license only includes desktop deployment. If you want to duplicate your Enterprise license, you can do it by purchasing the $99 Mac/Windows package for personal use (add Linux if necessary,) or the Desktop package for commercial use. There is no annual subscription fee for those. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
The on-rev client could be one of the first items to be released to us for 'open-sourcing'. Is the debugging code a big secret? Then put it in a substack, let us call to it and make a better editor to go around it. On 21 September 2010 10:39, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Stephen- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:32:46 AM, you wrote: then use the newest Transmit by Panic http://panic.com/transmit/. $40 - Works great with Textmate and Ralf's plugin or Coda . Good to know, although I haven't had problems with ftp and on-rev. It's debugging that stumped me since I needed to look at variables in situ. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Sarah, I'm trying to do what you described. But how? Are you suggesting that I import the libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev as sub stack to the mainstack of my app? If so, I can't figure out how to do that. It must be easy -- Alex Adams hawkVision yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com From: Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:30:46 +1000 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode? While not an ideal solution, for the quick fix, can you include these 2 stacks in the stackFiles of the mainStack that needs to access them? Then that stack would know where they were and you could start using. Cheers, Sarah On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com wrote: Did that. Set it to the last rev folder where they have been working fine all along. Still no go. -- Alex Adams ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
LiveCode 4.5 and the midsummer (2010) save 60% on revStudio deal
With the sudden, unexpected release of LiveCode and disappearance of revStudio, revMedia, etc., I'm feeling a bit stung by the midsummer deal we were all offered (and I and others accepted) to SAVE 60% on revSTUDIO. When I took this deal and paid the $99, I was led to expect a year's worth of complimentary upgrades to revStudio, not two month's worth of complimentary upgrades. Unless I'm mistaken, if I wish to cross over to LiveCode, it's now going to cost me an additional $98, or approximately 2/3 of the $149 I was saving with the midsummer revStudio deal I can't help but think now that this deal was offered, somewhat disingenuously, by RunRev, knowing that the product they were selling me was in effect going to be discontinued two months later? Is this rather underhanded manner of behavior any way to treat your longtime, faithful customers? (rhetorical question) We want you to take the plunge and realize the benefits of Rev. Thats why we're making you a one time offer. Buy a revStudio license today for just $99 and save $150 We won't be repeating this offer any time soon. Indeed. - jerry balzano___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Free RevMedia
Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:43:12 AM, you wrote: ??? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dodo -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Free RevMedia
On 09/21/2010 09:01 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:43:12 AM, you wrote: ??? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dodo This is really rather amusing: RevMedia was introduced to stimulate an interest in RunRev, and as an educational tool for would-be purchasers and students/schoolchildren to learn how to work with RunRev. And, as such was justly lauded as a great step forward; and as significantly better than either the 10-line crippled versions such as RunRev 1.1.1 and 2; and a lot better than the 30 day trials of RunRev 3 and so on. Since the relase of the Free RevMedia (just about 14 months ago) I have taught a fair number of kids to program with it, as have, I suspect, many others world-wide. Now that is all gone. Boo! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Free RevMedia
Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 11:10:24 AM, you wrote: Now that is all gone. Boo! No argument from me. I do realize that the free version doesn't contribute anything to the revenue stream, but still... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 and the midsummer (2010) save 60% on revStudio deal
Actually, if I understand how this works, you still will get your full year of complimentary upgrades. They are honoring licenses that extend several years into the future. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Jerry Balzano gjbalz...@ucsd.edu wrote: With the sudden, unexpected release of LiveCode and disappearance of revStudio, revMedia, etc., I'm feeling a bit stung by the midsummer deal we were all offered (and I and others accepted) to SAVE 60% on revSTUDIO. When I took this deal and paid the $99, I was led to expect a year's worth of complimentary upgrades to revStudio, not two month's worth of complimentary upgrades. Unless I'm mistaken, if I wish to cross over to LiveCode, it's now going to cost me an additional $98, or approximately 2/3 of the $149 I was saving with the midsummer revStudio deal I can't help but think now that this deal was offered, somewhat disingenuously, by RunRev, knowing that the product they were selling me was in effect going to be discontinued two months later? Is this rather underhanded manner of behavior any way to treat your longtime, faithful customers? (rhetorical question) We want you to take the plunge and realize the benefits of Rev. Thats why we're making you a one time offer. Buy a revStudio license today for just $99 and save $150 We won't be repeating this offer any time soon. Indeed. - jerry balzano___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 and the midsummer (2010) save 60% on revStudio deal
Jerry- The way I understand things, your current license agreement stands. Nothing changes until its term is up. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 and the midsummer (2010) save 60% on revStudio deal
On 09/21/2010 09:01 PM, Jerry Balzano wrote: With the sudden, unexpected release of LiveCode and disappearance of revStudio, revMedia, etc., I'm feeling a bit stung by the midsummer deal we were all offered (and I and others accepted) to SAVE 60% on revSTUDIO. When I took this deal and paid the $99, I was led to expect a year's worth of complimentary upgrades to revStudio, not two month's worth of complimentary upgrades. Unless I'm mistaken, if I wish to cross over to LiveCode, it's now going to cost me an additional $98, or approximately 2/3 of the $149 I was saving with the midsummer revStudio deal I can't help but think now that this deal was offered, somewhat disingenuously, by RunRev, knowing that the product they were selling me was in effect going to be discontinued two months later? Is this rather underhanded manner of behavior any way to treat your longtime, faithful customers? (rhetorical question) We want you to take the plunge and realize the benefits of Rev. Thats why we're making you a one time offer. Buy a revStudio license today for just $99 and save $150 We won't be repeating this offer any time soon. Indeed. - jerry balzano___ Indeed . . . Many attendees at the Edinburgh conference and subscribers to the DVD set had to wait donkey's ages for the DVDs. After some 'heckling' RunRev issued those who had not recieved their DVD sets with extended licenses that were good until September 4th . . . 'LiveCode' was released on September 19/20 (i.e. after September 4th) with a whole new way of putting in licenses. The extended licenses while serving to mollify a few did nothing else whatsoever: as no updates post RunRev 4.0 were forthcoming prior to 5th September. -- This kind of behaviour has happened before . . . Indeed. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web Deployment
I purchased the on-rev package when it came out and now when I look at my account it says Web Deployment - already purchased. I also am a Enterprise user so it may be connected to that but it sounds more like it is connected to on-rev to me. -=JB=- On Sep 21, 2010, at 6:08 AM, David Bovill wrote: On 21 September 2010 12:28, -=JB=- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I think it is the On-Rev package that has been offered for quite some time now and many have purchased it already so if they continue to develop it more will likely purchase it and with the right improvements it can exceed their sales expectations. That would make sense - On-Rev has (commercial) potential, but I don't think it is the case. If you look at the Standalone Settings (I am viewing it with a trial license) - the Web settings that allow you to create a revWeb plugin has the option to purchase a $199 upgrade - I assume this is in order to let you make these plugins as this export option has nothing to do with using On-Rev. It is not clear, if you can make them for non-commercial use, but it looks like the standalone builder will stop making revWeb plugins after the trial expires? Personally I can (sort of) imagine people paying $30 for the ability to make revWeb plugins - I really don't get this $199 pricing. The rest seems logical to me, and I do very much like the branding LiveCode, but it seems the current pricing strategy will have two clear outcomes: 1. It will clobber Linux sales - I think the bundles would be better Mac+Linux and Windows+Linux. 2. Deter future revWeb plugin development when it becomes clear how many people will pay for it as an isolated feature. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web Deployment
web deployment=plugin they don't list on-rev accounts yet On 21 September 2010 11:18, -=JB=- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I purchased the on-rev package when it came out and now when I look at my account it says Web Deployment - already purchased. I also am a Enterprise user so it may be connected to that but it sounds more like it is connected to on-rev to me. -=JB=- On Sep 21, 2010, at 6:08 AM, David Bovill wrote: On 21 September 2010 12:28, -=JB=- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I think it is the On-Rev package that has been offered for quite some time now and many have purchased it already so if they continue to develop it more will likely purchase it and with the right improvements it can exceed their sales expectations. That would make sense - On-Rev has (commercial) potential, but I don't think it is the case. If you look at the Standalone Settings (I am viewing it with a trial license) - the Web settings that allow you to create a revWeb plugin has the option to purchase a $199 upgrade - I assume this is in order to let you make these plugins as this export option has nothing to do with using On-Rev. It is not clear, if you can make them for non-commercial use, but it looks like the standalone builder will stop making revWeb plugins after the trial expires? Personally I can (sort of) imagine people paying $30 for the ability to make revWeb plugins - I really don't get this $199 pricing. The rest seems logical to me, and I do very much like the branding LiveCode, but it seems the current pricing strategy will have two clear outcomes: 1. It will clobber Linux sales - I think the bundles would be better Mac+Linux and Windows+Linux. 2. Deter future revWeb plugin development when it becomes clear how many people will pay for it as an isolated feature. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 and the midsummer (2010) save 60% on revStudio deal
It is always a Faustian pact, using closed source software, especially when it is in rapid development. Rev is perfectly entitled to abandon the Media experiment. It was noble, but evidently it did not work out. I also think its treated the Studio buyers such as myself fairly, it was entitled to change the terms of renewal any time it wanted, and its done so. You pays your money and takes your choice. Python is out there, its free, it has an enormous variety of IDEs and editors, its thoroughly cross platform, and it has a thriving community and innumerable tutorials and textbooks and howtos. But, it is rather a steeper learning curve, depending on where you are coming from. It is really not much different from Hypercard, is it? It is someone else that owns it, and you have really no say in what happens to it. Do not, one might advise, get too dependent on it, unless you really know what you are getting into. The thing about Rev is that there is an inbuilt conflict of interest between two target markets, those who want to develop non-commercially, and need it to be cheap, and those who are successfully developing commercially, and can afford to pay decent fees. In the end, its going to be very hard to reconcile the two sets of needs. They have done their best with the mix and match pricing, but some bits have fallen by the wayside. Pity. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Free-RevMedia-tp2549087p2549166.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web Deployment
You may be right but they have mentioned plugin with on-rev in the past if I remember correctly. I think that is the link that is supposed to make your on-rev site rev compatible rather than being just another site on the web. I could be wrong though because it is hard to follow a lot of things. -=JB=- On Sep 21, 2010, at 11:21 AM, stephen barncard wrote: web deployment=plugin they don't list on-rev accounts yet On 21 September 2010 11:18, -=JB=- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I purchased the on-rev package when it came out and now when I look at my account it says Web Deployment - already purchased. I also am a Enterprise user so it may be connected to that but it sounds more like it is connected to on-rev to me. -=JB=- On Sep 21, 2010, at 6:08 AM, David Bovill wrote: On 21 September 2010 12:28, -=JB=- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: I think it is the On-Rev package that has been offered for quite some time now and many have purchased it already so if they continue to develop it more will likely purchase it and with the right improvements it can exceed their sales expectations. That would make sense - On-Rev has (commercial) potential, but I don't think it is the case. If you look at the Standalone Settings (I am viewing it with a trial license) - the Web settings that allow you to create a revWeb plugin has the option to purchase a $199 upgrade - I assume this is in order to let you make these plugins as this export option has nothing to do with using On-Rev. It is not clear, if you can make them for non-commercial use, but it looks like the standalone builder will stop making revWeb plugins after the trial expires? Personally I can (sort of) imagine people paying $30 for the ability to make revWeb plugins - I really don't get this $199 pricing. The rest seems logical to me, and I do very much like the branding LiveCode, but it seems the current pricing strategy will have two clear outcomes: 1. It will clobber Linux sales - I think the bundles would be better Mac+Linux and Windows+Linux. 2. Deter future revWeb plugin development when it becomes clear how many people will pay for it as an isolated feature. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Another one bites the dust . . .
http://distrowatch.com/ Ugly! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
On Sep 21, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: Mouse over the LiveCode Bundle package icons. You will see product information in a flyout. Now mouse over the LiveCode 4.5 Complete for the Commercial product. Notice the pricing at the bottom of the flyover. The yearly maintenance fee for this product is now US$749. If you are using Rev to deploy commercial products to Desktop, Web, Mobile and Server plus using the LiveCode Developer program I don't think the price is bad at all. If you don't need all of those output options or don't want the subscription then just buy the output options you need in the store and there is no yearly subscription fee. Then you just have to pay when you want to upgrade if a newer version comes out that you want. I think this hits the nail on the head. Alice doesn't know what a Linux is. Bobby knows he will never deploy to web or server. Charles never gets involved with lists or even publisher communication. Each can have the right license. But some month or year when Bobby's customer says web, then Bobby is instantly set and with minimal cost and effort. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust . . .
I see a page with a hundred stories and a hundred links, all which change hourly. To what (or which) do you refer? On 21 September 2010 11:41, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: http://distrowatch.com/ Ugly! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
I have one question: Is Rev 4.5 now LiveCode 4.5? Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
Thanks Stephan. Tried it but lacks too in FTPS mode. Seems to have to do with the port forwarding lacking from/to my WAN/LAN addresses but i'm not sure at this point. Best regards, Pierre Le 21 sept. 2010 à 19:32, stephen barncard a écrit : then use the newest Transmit by Panic http://panic.com/transmit/. $40 - Works great with Textmate and Ralf's plugin or Coda . On 21 September 2010 04:34, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote: Monte, I ended up giving up and using Ralf's TextMate bundle+Cyberduck. Same there. The last version of CyberDuck seems to support the FTPS protocol but when i tried it against on-rev, the list directory works but nor the download/edit and upload files sems to work for me. Any tough about the way to go (needed opened ports or so...) ? Best regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
Hello Mark, I don't have any problem with on-rev in FTP mode. I'm just trying to access it under FTP+TLS/SSL and there is some glichies around (client or server-side, i don't know at this point). From Transmit : Nothing From CyberDuck : FTP directory listing is OK ; Up/Download KO Best Regards, Pierre Le 21 sept. 2010 à 19:39, Mark Wieder a écrit : Stephen- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:32:46 AM, you wrote: then use the newest Transmit by Panic http://panic.com/transmit/. $40 - Works great with Textmate and Ralf's plugin or Coda . Good to know, although I haven't had problems with ftp and on-rev. It's debugging that stumped me since I needed to look at variables in situ. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
LiveCode 4.5 License model
on Tue Sep 21 12:11:10 CDT 2010, Neal Campbell wrote: Just for comparison, my annual SA price for RADStudio from Embarcadero is $1320. Yes, but look at the tool you are getting from Embarcadero. A complete suite of tools to build an Enterprise level application. With that, I don't think LiveCode 4.5 even comes close to its tool set. I use VB6 from time to time, and again LiveCode 4.5 doesn't even comes close to it, and the product was stopped several years ago. I guess I get frustrated/annoyed if I were to build the same application in revStudio and also in VB6, the latter is so much easier to build a richer desktop application. I've tried to build the same objects/components in revStudio as are already in VB6. I've spent hours trying to do this, and in the end give up, because the objects in revStudio are not complete. Especially trying different property settings, they come up short. They don't work/set properly. Yes, I've tried all sorts of renditions of the settings. I will be revisiting my license with LiveCode. Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on-rev
Pierre- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 12:00:02 PM, you wrote: I don't have any problem with on-rev in FTP mode. I'm just trying to access it under FTP+TLS/SSL and there is some glichies around (client or server-side, i don't know at this point). ...I didn't know the server supported ftps... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
Yes! Op 21 sep 2010, om 20:59 heeft use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com het volgende geschreven: I have one question: Is Rev 4.5 now LiveCode 4.5? Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
Never mind. I just updated Rev 4.0 to LiveCode 4.5. Free with my existing license. Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
Not sure how this affects me. I bought into the 2 year license offer. Do I still get this as part of my maintenance? Bob On Sep 21, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: Mouse over the LiveCode Bundle package icons. You will see product information in a flyout. Now mouse over the LiveCode 4.5 Complete for the Commercial product. Notice the pricing at the bottom of the flyover. The yearly maintenance fee for this product is now US$749. If you are using Rev to deploy commercial products to Desktop, Web, Mobile and Server plus using the LiveCode Developer program I don't think the price is bad at all. If you don't need all of those output options or don't want the subscription then just buy the output options you need in the store and there is no yearly subscription fee. Then you just have to pay when you want to upgrade if a newer version comes out that you want. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust . . .
On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:45 PM, stephen barncard wrote: I see a page with a hundred stories and a hundred links, all which change hourly. To what (or which) do you refer? From here it looks like the site is shut down. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Where does revMobile go?
I upgraded to LiveCode 4.5. Because I have bought revMobile, Mobile Deployment is already purchased according to the store, as expected. However, I don't see it in the Development Plugins menu where it used to be. Nor can I find it anywhere else yet. Should I reinstall the plugin? If so, where? Terry___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust . . .
On 09/21/2010 09:45 PM, stephen barncard wrote: I see a page with a hundred stories and a hundred links, all which change hourly. To what (or which) do you refer? On 21 September 2010 11:41, Richmondrichmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: http://distrowatch.com/ Ugly! ___ I am getting this: *This page is generated by Parallels Plesk Panel http://www.parallels.com/plesk/?cid=promo-plesk-server, the leading hosting automation software. You see this page because there is no Web site at this address. **which seems to be an advert for 'Nellai Online Parallels'* ** *rather than the site where new Linux distributions are announced and so forth.* ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
On 09/21/2010 10:01 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: on Tue Sep 21 12:11:10 CDT 2010, Neal Campbell wrote: Just for comparison, my annual SA price for RADStudio from Embarcadero is $1320. Yes, but look at the tool you are getting from Embarcadero. A complete suite of tools to build an Enterprise level application. With that, I don't think LiveCode 4.5 even comes close to its tool set. I use VB6 from time to time, and again LiveCode 4.5 doesn't even comes close to it, and the product was stopped several years ago. I guess I get frustrated/annoyed if I were to build the same application in revStudio and also in VB6, the latter is so much easier to build a richer desktop application. I've tried to build the same objects/components in revStudio as are already in VB6. Well; it's all a matter of taste really. Having spent about 6 months with VB6 I would use RunRev any time; I found Visual Basic awful. But then I was probably trying to develop something entirely different from what you had in mind. I find these comparisons a bit invidious. I've spent hours trying to do this, and in the end give up, because the objects in revStudio are not complete. Especially trying different property settings, they come up short. They don't work/set properly. Yes, I've tried all sorts of renditions of the settings. I will be revisiting my license with LiveCode. Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
On 09/21/2010 10:15 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Never mind. I just updated Rev 4.0 to LiveCode 4.5. Free with my existing license. Craig Newman ___ How did you manage that? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
I feel betrayed
A little more than a year ago, I asked the following question to Runtime Revolution Support : Do you make some sort of commitment that revMedia will stay free beyond version 4 ? I received the following answer (dated June 29, 2009) : We have no intention of charging for revMedia beyond 4.0. Barring the unforeseen the intention is that it will remain permanently free. However, we cannot give an absolute guarantee that this will be so. I think you could be reasonably confident that using the new free revMedia in your courses was a good decision and as futureproof as anything can be in this uncertain world. Well this world is certainly uncertain !!! André Boileau___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
Richard. My license for Rev v.4 is still valid. I just went to: http://www.runrev.com/downloads/ logged in, and, presto. Craig In a message dated 9/21/10 3:38:56 PM, richmondmathew...@gmail.com writes: On 09/21/2010 10:15 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Never mind. I just updated Rev 4.0 to LiveCode 4.5. Free with my existing license. Craig Newman ___ How did you manage that? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I feel betrayed
Have all your copies of revMedia stopped working? Is it not still possible to let kids use it for free? There may be some future need that requires having an updated version, but for now revMedia is as good as it was two days ago. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I feel betrayed
On 09/21/2010 10:47 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Have all your copies of revMedia stopped working? Is it not still possible to let kids use it for free? There may be some future need that requires having an updated version, but for now revMedia is as good as it was two days ago. This is an extremely valid point. BUT; where do we point those kids to when they want to have a copy of RevMedia on their PC at home? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust . . .
Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 12:35:13 PM, you wrote: I am getting this: *This page is generated by Parallels Plesk Panel http://www.parallels.com/plesk/?cid=promo-plesk-server, the leading hosting automation software. You see this page because there is no Web site at this address. Site looks good to me. Issue 372 is up. Try refreshing your cache. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
DunbarX wrote: In a message dated 9/20/10 4:14:41 PM, janschenkel writes: And it is infinitely more internet-searchable. This alone may be the most important aspect... http://www.google.com/search?q=runrev http://www.google.com/search?q=livecode http://www.google.com/search?q=rapid+application+development -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
Richard: Are you implying that there is very little returned when searching livecode? Give it a few days at least, no? Craig In a message dated 9/21/10 4:16:25 PM, ambassa...@fourthworld.com writes: http://www.google.com/search?q=rapid+application+development ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust . . .
On 09/21/2010 11:15 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 12:35:13 PM, you wrote: I am getting this: *This page is generated by Parallels Plesk Panel http://www.parallels.com/plesk/?cid=promo-plesk-server, the leading hosting automation software. You see this page because there is no Web site at this address. Site looks good to me. Issue 372 is up. Try refreshing your cache. I think that there was a bump in the road because when I went there just now (without refreshing anything) the site was up and running again. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
calling com port under win7 with old 261 built app
Hi, i have an old app made from rev 2.6.1 that calls the serial port. been running for years under xp, but the client just tried it on a new win7 box and it doesnt look like anything is making it out the serial port on the new machine. he confirmed the device driver shows the single com port on the machine is set up as com1 and he has changed the pref on my app to com 1 (i had that built in there). does win 7 do something different that an older rev would not do to call the serial port? do i need to rebuild the app in a later version of rev to create a win7 app that will call the com port on win7? thanks jeff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust . . .
Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 1:20:28 PM, you wrote: On 09/21/2010 11:15 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Site looks good to me. Issue 372 is up. Try refreshing your cache. I think that there was a bump in the road because when I went there just now (without refreshing anything) the site was up and running again. Yeah, that's the ticket. Obviously I meant try *not* refreshing your cache g -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Are you implying that there is very little returned when searching livecode? In fact there is five times as much when searching for livecode (because it just knows that you really meant live code). Searching for +livecode cuts that down a lot, and many of the matches are nothing to do with Rev. But some of them are. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
--- On Tue, 9/21/10, Mark Stuart mstu...@adaptcrm.com wrote: I use VB6 from time to time, and again LiveCode 4.5 doesn't even comes close to it, and the product was stopped several years ago. I guess I get frustrated/annoyed if I were to build the same application in revStudio and also in VB6, the latter is so much easier to build a richer desktop application. I've tried to build the same objects/components in revStudio as are already in VB6. I've spent hours trying to do this, and in the end give up, because the objects in revStudio are not complete. Especially trying different property settings, they come up short. They don't work/set properly. Yes, I've tried all sorts of renditions of the settings. I will be revisiting my license with LiveCode. Regards, Mark Stuart Well, it's all about using the right tool for the job at hand. I've been using Rev/LiveCode for one-off tools, for prototypes, and for complete projects. If a project is better done in Java or .NET, I'll use those tools instead. Sure, I wish LiveCode had toolbars, ribbons, tree views, etc. all built-in with point-and-click configuration as well as full scripting control. But I've always been able to replicate what I needed, and behaviors have recently made that a whole lot easier. Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust . . .
On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Yeah, that's the ticket. Obviously I meant try *not* refreshing your cache g That can be achieved in Safari by not pressing command-option-e. BTW, I had the situation where I caught it again when it wasn't working, but after a clear cache it did then work. But that may have just been fortunate timing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust . . .
On 09/21/2010 11:30 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Yeah, that's the ticket. Obviously I meant try *not* refreshing your cacheg That can be achieved in Safari by not pressing command-option-e. BTW, I had the situation where I caught it again when it wasn't working, but after a clear cache it did then work. But that may have just been fortunate timing. Aah: almost everything is really just a matter of 'fortunate timing'. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 License model
On 09/21/2010 10:43 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Richard. My license for Rev v.4 is still valid. I just went to: http://www.runrev.com/downloads/ logged in, and, presto. Craig Aah . . . mine expired on the 4th of September. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Hi Alex, Open your project's mainstack, go to the 'Tools' menu and pick the item 'Stack inspector' - then use the option menu at the top to switch to the 'Stack files' panel. There you can use the 'Folder' icon to add references to the libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLib.rev stacks - from then on, you can easily 'start using' those libraries with their short name. As a bonus, the standalone builder will automatically include them when the standalone applications are built. See also page 30 of the Quartam Reports Manual pdf file :-) HTH, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Tue, 9/21/10, Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com wrote: Sarah, I'm trying to do what you described. But how? Are you suggesting that I import the libUUID.rev and qtrReportsLib.rev as sub stack to the mainstack of my app? If so, I can't figure out how to do that. It must be easy -- Alex Adams From: Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com While not an ideal solution, for the quick fix, can you include these 2 stacks in the stackFiles of the mainStack that needs to access them? Then that stack would know where they were and you could start using. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: calling com port under win7 with old 261 built app
On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: i have an old app made from rev 2.6.1 that calls the serial port. been running for years under xp, but the client just tried it on a new win7 box and it doesnt look like anything is making it out the serial port on the new machine. he confirmed the device driver shows the single com port on the machine is set up as com1 and he has changed the pref on my app to com 1 (i had that built in there). does win 7 do something different that an older rev would not do to call the serial port? do i need to rebuild the app in a later version of rev to create a win7 app that will call the com port on win7? Did he change RS232 cables? Did he move to a USB-serial adaptor? Perhaps there is a handshaking issue. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I feel betrayed
On 09/21/2010 10:39 PM, Boileau wrote: A little more than a year ago, I asked the following question to Runtime Revolution Support : Do you make some sort of commitment that revMedia will stay free beyond version 4 ? I received the following answer (dated June 29, 2009) : We have no intention of charging for revMedia beyond 4.0. Barring the unforeseen the intention is that it will remain permanently free. However, we cannot give an absolute guarantee that this will be so. I think you could be reasonably confident that using the new free revMedia in your courses was a good decision and as futureproof as anything can be in this uncertain world. Well this world is certainly uncertain !!! Ah, mon ami, Les /OEuvres de Boileau/ ne disent rien sur ce problème! This sort of behaviour has been observed before; so one either puts up with it, or moves elsewhere; OR, if you are a belligerent so-and-so (cough, cough) you keep bothering people until either: 1. they disconnect you from the Use-List, 2. they give in and put things back the way they were, 3. they give you a job. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
On Sep 21, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I upgraded to LiveCode 4.5. Because I have bought revMobile, Mobile Deployment is already purchased according to the store, as expected. However, I don't see it in the Development Plugins menu where it used to be. Nor can I find it anywhere else yet. Should I reinstall the plugin? If so, where? You can say this in the message box: put revEnvironmentPluginsPath() and that will show that with LiveCode the plugins folder is inside the application (on Mac, right-click on LiveCode, Show Package Contents, and go into Contents/Tools/Plugins). The latest revMobilePlugin seems to work ok if you put it there, though I dare say we're due for an update to that. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: calling com port under win7 with old 261 built app
Jeff- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 1:23:13 PM, you wrote: on my app to com 1 (i had that built in there). does win 7 do something different that an older rev would not do to call the serial port? do i need to rebuild the app in a later version of rev to create a win7 app that will call the com port on win7? Hmmm... overzealous antivirus software? Do you need admin rights to access the serial ports in Win 7? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Free RevMedia
H HAAA I just spit out my coffee right onto my keyboard Damn... On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:43:12 AM, you wrote: ??? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dodo -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Free RevMedia
On 09/21/2010 11:58 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: H HAAA I just spit out my coffee right onto my keyboard Damn... On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 10:43:12 AM, you wrote: ??? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dodo -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Supposedly the writer Victor Hugo wrote a letter to his publisher that consisted solely of '?' to which the reply was '!' ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Free RevMedia
Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 2:02:35 PM, you wrote: Supposedly the writer Victor Hugo wrote a letter to his publisher that consisted solely of '?' to which the reply was '!' If they were playing chess, the publisher won. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Free RevMedia
On 09/22/2010 12:07 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 2:02:35 PM, you wrote: Supposedly the writer Victor Hugo wrote a letter to his publisher that consisted solely of '?' to which the reply was '!' If they were playing chess, the publisher won. ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Wonderful people
Today I went to the Post Office here in Plovdiv and collected a Yosemite G3 Mac that was sent to me for the cost of the postage alone. It works superbly, and does exactly what I need right now . . . :) This was an extremely generous gift from somebody who read about my G4 going poof on this Use-List. This confirms my belief that the RunRev Use-list is inhabited by good people. sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:34 AM, René Micout wrote: It does not take a big risk by combining France and Cheese ;-) How can you govern a country where there are over 300 kinds of cheese? -- Charles de Gaulle -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig Le 21 sept. 2010 à 14:29, Klaus on-rev a écrit : Bonjour René, In french : on ne fait pas d'omelette sans casser des œufs we do not make an omelet without breaking eggs and, YES, there is omelette with cheese ! ;-) I KNEW I was right! :-D Le 21 sept. 2010 à 12:40, Klaus on-rev a écrit : Hi Ben, On 21/09/2010 10:33, René Micout wrote: All this is still annoying, almost every new version of Revolution (Pardon LiveCode) is the same thing ... This is the problem when fixing a bug... sometimes that means breaking stacks that were adapted to work with the previous behaviour. But for me this is a massive upgrade because now Rev/ LiveCode can read CYMK images. So while I accept some eggs have been broken, I'm enjoying the delicious omelette! Ben (who's not sure whether that the egg/omelette phrase is only in English...) I am sure in french this is something with CHEESE! :-D Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wonderful people
Richmond, Don't mention it. It was just collecting dust around here. Glad you can use it. Mike --- On Tue, 9/21/10, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: From: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com Subject: [OT] Wonderful people To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 4:15 PM Today I went to the Post Office here in Plovdiv and collected a Yosemite G3 Mac that was sent to me for the cost of the postage alone. It works superbly, and does exactly what I need right now . . . :) This was an extremely generous gift from somebody who read about my G4 going poof on this Use-List. This confirms my belief that the RunRev Use-list is inhabited by good people. sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Valentina Help
I just purchased Valentina ADK and am trying what I thought was a simple example but can't seem to grasp the concept. Hopefully someone can help who is familar with Valentina. I am sure Valentina is a great product...but the support and the documentation for the RunRev version leaves a lot to be desired. On the card, I have the following... on OpenCard get Valentina_Init( 10 * 1024 * 1024,,(serial number), ) end OpenCard on CloseCard get Valentina_ShutDown end CloseCard I created a button to just try to write a record to a database that already exists. I just can't get any data written to the database. Is there anything obvious I am missing? I am getting numeric values in the variables mDatabase, tblSpin, and f1 and f2 so I assume something is working...just no data in my table. Thanks for any help! on mouseUp put VDatabase_Constructor() into mDatabase get the effective filename of this stack set the itemDel to slash put the (item 1 to -2 of it) slash Database/Spinnables.vdb into dbPath get VDatabase_Open( mDatabase, dbPath ) put VDatabase_Table( mDatabase, Spinnables ) into tblSpin get VTable_SetBlank(tblSpin) put VTable_Field( tblSpin, Keyword1 ) into f1 put VTable_Field( tblSpin, Term1 ) into f2 get VField_Value( f1, test ) get VField_Value( f2, test ) get VTable_AddRecord(tblSpin) end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
On 9/21/10 2:31 PM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I upgraded to LiveCode 4.5. Because I have bought revMobile, Mobile Deployment is already purchased according to the store, as expected. However, I don't see it in the Development Plugins menu where it used to be. Nor can I find it anywhere else yet. Should I reinstall the plugin? If so, where? In 4.5, open Preferences, Files and Memory pane. Use the browse button at the bottom to select your My Revolution folder as the external folder location. That folder is located inside your Documents folder, and was created by previous versions of Rev. Restart LiveCode and it should load all your externals from that location. Alternate method: Create a My LiveCode folder inside Documents. Create a Plugins folder inside that. Put your plugins in the plugins folder. Restart LiveCode and it should load everything automatically. If you do this, don't put anything in the preferences path, leave it empty. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] The SbS 02 - Introduction to the datagrid is on the road again in version 1.1
Dear List, The Slug is pleased to announce the availability of a new version of the Introduction to the datagrid tutorial. The content is unchanged but we added new capabilities to the tutorial: - we can now print a topic - we can now search all the occurrences of a word in a topic. The search is launched during the input of the letters and the found words are instantly highlighted in yellow. Plus we fixed an odd crashing bug in the selection of the content of a topic. The SbS 02 - Introduction to the datagrid 1.1.0 is now available on revOnline (liveOnline??) and in the download section of the Slug's site. Even if there is nothing very revolutionary, the new code is free to use if you need it. 8-) Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Valentina Help
Hi Warren, I don't see any obvious mistakes in your script. Perhaps you need to use a variable instead of a value. put test into myVar get VField_Value( f1, myVar ) You might want to post the script that reads the record from the database. Are you sure that you closed the database when you accessed it previously? Is the database in a writable location? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce Create installers for Mac and Windows on *every* Rev-compatible platform. No additional software needed. On 22 sep 2010, at 00:05, Warren Kuhl wrote: I just purchased Valentina ADK and am trying what I thought was a simple example but can't seem to grasp the concept. Hopefully someone can help who is familar with Valentina. I am sure Valentina is a great product...but the support and the documentation for the RunRev version leaves a lot to be desired. On the card, I have the following... on OpenCard get Valentina_Init( 10 * 1024 * 1024,,(serial number), ) end OpenCard on CloseCard get Valentina_ShutDown end CloseCard I created a button to just try to write a record to a database that already exists. I just can't get any data written to the database. Is there anything obvious I am missing? I am getting numeric values in the variables mDatabase, tblSpin, and f1 and f2 so I assume something is working...just no data in my table. Thanks for any help! on mouseUp put VDatabase_Constructor() into mDatabase get the effective filename of this stack set the itemDel to slash put the (item 1 to -2 of it) slash Database/Spinnables.vdb into dbPath get VDatabase_Open( mDatabase, dbPath ) put VDatabase_Table( mDatabase, Spinnables ) into tblSpin get VTable_SetBlank(tblSpin) put VTable_Field( tblSpin, Keyword1 ) into f1 put VTable_Field( tblSpin, Term1 ) into f2 get VField_Value( f1, test ) get VField_Value( f2, test ) get VTable_AddRecord(tblSpin) end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
Jacque- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 3:26:09 PM, you wrote: In 4.5, open Preferences, Files and Memory pane. Use the browse button at the bottom to select your My Revolution folder as the external folder location. That folder is located inside your Documents folder, and was created by previous versions of Rev. Actually, it's never been created automatically. Would that it were. And note that you *don't* select the Plugins folder itself with the browse button, just the folder that contains it. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A mini-stack to automatically download most recent main stack?
Since its release, I use the web pluggin for most of my apps but there are so many inconsistencies that I'm thinking of writing a small client app that, once launched, goes out to where I store the real app/stack and downloads it and runs it (or tells the little stack all of the parameters that need changing to make it like the big stack) all automatically. Sort of like the weblet does but without the browser. A small app will sit on every machine that I want the real app to run on. This way I can make tweaks to the real app without having to upgrade everyone's client app. I'm sure it's not tough but I am but a novice compared to most on this list J Anyone ever do something like this and if so, can you provide ideas as to how you went about it? Thank for any suggestions jim schaubeck 714.321.4499 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
What I am doing these days is using dropbox to contain my plugins folder. This way all my machines have an up to date copy of my doings and I am able to work whenever I am. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jacque- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 3:26:09 PM, you wrote: In 4.5, open Preferences, Files and Memory pane. Use the browse button at the bottom to select your My Revolution folder as the external folder location. That folder is located inside your Documents folder, and was created by previous versions of Rev. Actually, it's never been created automatically. Would that it were. And note that you *don't* select the Plugins folder itself with the browse button, just the folder that contains it. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A mini-stack to automatically download most recent main stack?
Umm you can simply upload the updated stack somewhere on your website and from the small client you;re going to make, you can use this script: open stack http://yourwebsite.com/somepath/yourstack.rev; --- On Tue, 21/9/10, Jim Schaubeck jimschaub...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jim Schaubeck jimschaub...@yahoo.com Subject: A mini-stack to automatically download most recent main stack? To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, 21 September, 2010, 10:52 PM Since its release, I use the web pluggin for most of my apps but there are so many inconsistencies that I'm thinking of writing a small client app that, once launched, goes out to where I store the real app/stack and downloads it and runs it (or tells the little stack all of the parameters that need changing to make it like the big stack) all automatically. Sort of like the weblet does but without the browser. A small app will sit on every machine that I want the real app to run on. This way I can make tweaks to the real app without having to upgrade everyone's client app. I'm sure it's not tough but I am but a novice compared to most on this list J Anyone ever do something like this and if so, can you provide ideas as to how you went about it? Thank for any suggestions jim schaubeck 714.321.4499 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
Hi Andre, is dropbox a macos feature or an application? On 21 September 2010 15:53, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: What I am doing these days is using dropbox to contain my plugins folder. This way all my machines have an up to date copy of my doings and I am able to work whenever I am. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jacque- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 3:26:09 PM, you wrote: In 4.5, open Preferences, Files and Memory pane. Use the browse button at the bottom to select your My Revolution folder as the external folder location. That folder is located inside your Documents folder, and was created by previous versions of Rev. Actually, it's never been created automatically. Would that it were. And note that you *don't* select the Plugins folder itself with the browse button, just the folder that contains it. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
Recently, stephen barncard wrote: is dropbox a macos feature or an application? Dude: http://www.dropbox.com Andre's idea is very creative. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A mini-stack to automatically download most recent main stack?
Jim, This is very common. It is what we use to call a splash stack that serves as a splash screen like the ones from Adobe and loads the rest of the application from remote location if needed. Search this list for splash stack and you will see a lot of goodies. Be sure to script your stack to cache the main application for times when there's no networked connection or your app will not launch if unconnected. Andre On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Jim Schaubeck jimschaub...@yahoo.comwrote: Since its release, I use the web pluggin for most of my apps but there are so many inconsistencies that I'm thinking of writing a small client app that, once launched, goes out to where I store the real app/stack and downloads it and runs it (or tells the little stack all of the parameters that need changing to make it like the big stack) all automatically. Sort of like the weblet does but without the browser. A small app will sit on every machine that I want the real app to run on. This way I can make tweaks to the real app without having to upgrade everyone's client app. I'm sure it's not tough but I am but a novice compared to most on this list J Anyone ever do something like this and if so, can you provide ideas as to how you went about it? Thank for any suggestions jim schaubeck 714.321.4499 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Valentina Help
Mark, It looks like the log is telling (from what I can tell) that a record is written...but there is no data being written in my table. I manually added 7 records to the table, so I am assuming that the.. VTable_AddRecord... PARAM: tblRef = 135884248 return res = 8 ...is telling me record number 8 has been added? I am looking at the file in Valentina Studio and refreshed, closed, etc and it is not added. Warren Valentina_DebugLevel... PARAM: inLevel = kLogParams return VDatabase_Constructor... PARAM: inEnumStorageType = 0 return revDb = 48040944 VDatabase_Open... PARAM: dbRef = 48040944 PARAM: inStrPath = C:/Users/Warren/Desktop/NewSpinner/Database/Spinnables.vdb return VDatabase_Table... PARAM: dbRef = 48040944 PARAM: inIntIndexOrStrName = Spinnables return res = 135884248 VTable_SetBlank... PARAM: tblRef = 135884248 return VTable_Field... PARAM: tblRef = 135884248 PARAM: inIntIndexOrStrName = Keyword1 return res = 135815896 VTable_Field... PARAM: tblRef = 135884248 PARAM: inIntIndexOrStrName = Term1 return res = 135816128 VField_Value... PARAM: fldRef = 135815896 PARAM: inStrValue = 999 return VField_Value... PARAM: fldRef = 135816128 PARAM: inStrValue = 999 return VTable_AddRecord... PARAM: tblRef = 135884248 return res = 8 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Warren, I don't see any obvious mistakes in your script. Perhaps you need to use a variable instead of a value. put test into myVar get VField_Value( f1, myVar ) You might want to post the script that reads the record from the database. Are you sure that you closed the database when you accessed it previously? Is the database in a writable location? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce Create installers for Mac and Windows on *every* Rev-compatible platform. No additional software needed. On 22 sep 2010, at 00:05, Warren Kuhl wrote: I just purchased Valentina ADK and am trying what I thought was a simple example but can't seem to grasp the concept. Hopefully someone can help who is familar with Valentina. I am sure Valentina is a great product...but the support and the documentation for the RunRev version leaves a lot to be desired. On the card, I have the following... on OpenCard get Valentina_Init( 10 * 1024 * 1024,,(serial number), ) end OpenCard on CloseCard get Valentina_ShutDown end CloseCard I created a button to just try to write a record to a database that already exists. I just can't get any data written to the database. Is there anything obvious I am missing? I am getting numeric values in the variables mDatabase, tblSpin, and f1 and f2 so I assume something is working...just no data in my table. Thanks for any help! on mouseUp put VDatabase_Constructor() into mDatabase get the effective filename of this stack set the itemDel to slash put the (item 1 to -2 of it) slash Database/Spinnables.vdb into dbPath get VDatabase_Open( mDatabase, dbPath ) put VDatabase_Table( mDatabase, Spinnables ) into tblSpin get VTable_SetBlank(tblSpin) put VTable_Field( tblSpin, Keyword1 ) into f1 put VTable_Field( tblSpin, Term1 ) into f2 get VField_Value( f1, test ) get VField_Value( f2, test ) get VTable_AddRecord(tblSpin) end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
DropBox is an application. You can signup here: http://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTc4MTA2NDQ5 By signing up to a referral link, we both gain 250mb additional space so it's a win-win situation. :) --- On Tue, 21/9/10, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com Subject: Re: Where does revMobile go? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, 21 September, 2010, 10:57 PM Hi Andre, is dropbox a macos feature or an application? -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
