Re: January 2007, number of subscribers to user, dev and commits mailing lists

2007-02-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato

Jeff,

Jeff Mahurin wrote:

Hi Jacques
Lurkers equals Learners... You really can't do more than LEARN until you
completely understand what you are dealing with.



I totally agree with you here:
I really appreciate the persons that join a new list and take their time 
in silence reading posts and learning before asking or (even worst) 
throwing out (misleading) assertions and complaints and advices to other 
new users.
I think it is a wise, intelligent and correct way of starting with a new 
project.


Jacopo



I might add that this will change as more LURKERS become better aquainted
and are able to create projects that actually work...

Maybe separate areas for developing new pieces. In a modular fashion would
encourage interested LURKERS to learn faster. I am sure it will attract
others interested in those projects and suddenly you get ACTIVE
participants.

Regards
Jeff






jacques.le.roux wrote:

Thanks Jacopo,

Mmm, much lurkers...

Jacques

From: Jacopo Cappellato [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Here is the number of subscribers per each of the three public OFBiz 
mailing list for this month.


===

Results of your queries (based on information dated 2007-02-03):

user@ofbiz.apache.org
   Subscribers:424
   Digest readers: 33

dev@ofbiz.apache.org
   Subscribers:334
   Digest readers: 17

commits@ofbiz.apache.org
   Subscribers:66
   Digest readers: 4










Re: January 2007, number of subscribers to user, dev and commits mailing lists

2007-02-05 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Jeff,



 Hi Jacques
 Lurkers equals Learners... You really can't do more than LEARN until you
 completely understand what you are dealing with.

Don't wait to completely understand OFBiz else you will never begin ;o)

 I might add that this will change as more LURKERS become better aquainted
 and are able to create projects that actually work...

I hope so.

 Maybe separate areas for developing new pieces. In a modular fashion would
 encourage interested LURKERS to learn faster. I am sure it will attract
 others interested in those projects and suddenly you get ACTIVE
 participants.

Yes we discussed about this recently. But as you may have seen this is 
difficult for legal reasons.

Jacques


 Regards
 Jeff






 jacques.le.roux wrote:
 
  Thanks Jacopo,
 
  Mmm, much lurkers...
 
  Jacques
 
  From: Jacopo Cappellato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  Here is the number of subscribers per each of the three public OFBiz
  mailing list for this month.
 
  ===
 
  Results of your queries (based on information dated 2007-02-03):
 
  user@ofbiz.apache.org
 Subscribers:424
 Digest readers: 33
 
  dev@ofbiz.apache.org
 Subscribers:334
 Digest readers: 17
 
  commits@ofbiz.apache.org
 Subscribers:66
 Digest readers: 4
 
 
 

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Re: January 2007, number of subscribers to user, dev and commits mailing lists

2007-02-05 Thread David E. Jones


On Feb 5, 2007, at 8:51 AM, Chris Howe wrote:



--- David E. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

At some point we definitely plan to have various sub-projects that
are managed somewhat independently of the core of OFBiz (and even
split the core into framework and core applications projects). I
think we have a ways to go to get there, and getting each started
will require a fair amount of administrative overhead, so my guess is
that it will take some calendar time and a lot of volunteer hours to
get to that point.
-David


I think there's quite a bit of interest and at least a few volunteers
in the area of modularizing the apps (seems to have already been done
for the most part with modularizing the framework from the apps).
Would you mind sharing your views on a roadmap for this that will  
spark

discussion so that those interested are better tempted to put their
efforts in an area that will benefit the community in addition to  
their

personal interests?  Thanks!


The eventual project structure that I am imagining, and that has been  
discussed on and off over time, would include a main OFBiz project  
with the following sub-projects:


1. OFBiz Framework (the framework/ directory, and the stuff in the  
ofbiz.home/root directory)

2. OFBiz Core Applications (the applications/ directory)
3. OFBiz SP: POS (specialpurpose/pos/)
4. OFBiz SP: Asset Maintenance (specialpurpose/assetmaint/)
5. OFBiz SP: Handheld Facility/Warehouse App (specialpurpose/hhfacility)
6. OFBiz SP: other future special purpose apps derived from the Core  
Applications


It is conceivable (or likely) that even the current ecommerce  
component will move into the special purpose category (and directory)  
at some point.


To help draw the line between Core versus Special Purpose, and on a  
more controversial topic using an example from outside of OFBiz,  
something like the OpenSourceStrategies financials component would  
be part of #2 (the Core Applications), and something like their  
crmsfa application would be in #6, ie a special purpose app derived  
from other Core Applications.


-David




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Re: January 2007, number of subscribers to user, dev and commits mailing lists

2007-02-05 Thread Walter Vaughan

Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

 Here is the number of subscribers per each of the three public OFBiz
 mailing list for this month.
...

Plus I wonder how many more that subscribe via to usenet feed like
news:gmain.com.java.ofbiz.user

With the amount of traffic here, it can make sence deal with it in a newsreader.

It's a generational thing, 35+ males like email, 25-34 males like web, 18-24 
males like text messaging.


--
Walter