Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
Hi :) Doc is the older MS format and it is generally possible to open in pretty much any office program. It's rare but possible to find the odd one or 2 rare cases that don't open fairly perfectly. Those rare cases probably open slightly differently in different office programs so try AbiWord, google-docs, KOffice/Caligra or anything else. Of course MS had to move away from that format for various reasons, perhaps such as 1. security issues had been widely reported over the years 2. why would people pay to upgrade to the newer version of their office program if there current one or free ones worked? Any MS format is likely to suffer from interoperability issues because of that 2nd alleged reason. Remember Rtf and the infamous court case? DocX is the newer MS format and even MS Office has troubles with it. A document written in MSO 2007 is unlikely to look quite right in MSO 2010 or 2013 or 365 and vice-versa. You are kinda pushed into finding out what most other people are using and then buying that version. It gets worse. According to the MS installer for MSO 2010 a document created in MSO 2010 on Xp will probably look different in MSO 2010 on Win7. So, if you want to share documents or archive them to read some day in the future then the best bet for most people right now is to save in the older MS format. The one that has been known to have security problems over the years. However, Odt is being used more and more often. MSO 2010 used the older version despite everyone else using the newer one so documents didn't always look quite right. MSO 2013 has promised to use the 1.2 version that everyone else has been using for years. It's more reliable because it's not dependant on the whims of just 1 company and many companies get together to agree on it. MS is unlikely to go bankrupt any time soon. The greater danger is that they keep 'accidentally' not quite implementing formats in they way that they promise through their ISO standards agreements or documentation. It's allegedly why Rtf failed according to the court case. The other inevitable problem is that any editable document will look diffeent on different machines anyway. Different default printers, different paper-sizes, perhaps screen-resolution (unlikely) and a whole slew of other variables all affect the way text flows on a document. The standard answer is to send a Pdf along with the editable version. Btw the English phrase I'm afraid should only be used sparingly and never by a fearless user of OpenSource. Stay smug and aloof. Let people continue to use whatever cr#$£*p they are determined to use but just sometimes let them know when their documents are likely to or already have failed. If you can install LibreOffice without them being unhappy and without it potentially getting you in trouble then do. Once the programs that can handle ODF are out there then it's easier to get people to use the format. Regards from Tom :) From: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk To: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 7:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. I cannot contact the author since the document was downloaded randomly. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letter inp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 2:37 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 11/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! I cannot open a particular file in LibreOffice, but I can open it in Microsoft Office. Good for you; your copy of m$ is legal? I would appreciate it if you take a look. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60390 Not a bug, unless the original document was created in odf. Did you contact the author and explain that the document cannot be opened in LO? What did the author say? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
On 12/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4 documentation
Hi Caesar, Le 2013-02-11 17:17, Caesar a écrit : Thank you Marc for the invitation, but I just started using LO 3.6.4 a few months ago, and LO 4.0.0 a week or so ago, so I really don't know much about how it works. I'm definitely at the start of the learning curve. I can't imagine I would be of much help, except by making donations, which I have already done a couple of times. Until I learn more, I believe that is how I can be most helpful. Many thanks for your contribution which are well appreciated. Your donations will be put to good use. If you ever feel like contributing with more hands on rather than donations, feel free to ask here on the list or write me and I can help with some suggestions. We have a need for help for all kinds of talented people on the project, no matter what level. The amount of time our volunteers contribute is a little as approximately 15 minutes a week to x-hours; the time factor is really not an issue with the project volunteer-contributors. Hope you enjoy the suite! Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office 4
Hi :) It would be nice if you could post a bug-report about the issue https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport as doing so increases the chances of people working on the issue. In the process of filing the bug-report it hopefully shows a list of similat items so you might find someone else has alreay reported it. If you do find someone has then just add a comment to try to help the devs pinpoint the problem faster. If you don't have time to post a bug report it might still get dealt with but it might take longer before people find that it's a problem. Regards from Tom :) From: cul...@earthlink.net cul...@earthlink.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 7:00 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office 4 I was using 3.6+. Have been using Libre Office since it began. I downloaded and installed 4 ran into a problem: the spreadsheet module does not link to other software as 3.6 does. One of the the things I use the spreadsheet for is to analyze certain stock market items which (in 3.6) are properly linked to an investment program I use via Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) plug-ins. Everything worked with 3.6 so I had to uninstall 4 and reinstall 3.6 in order for things to properly function. Anyone know if this has been or will be addressed? Thanks --/* Phil */ --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
On 12/02/2013 at 10:53, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. Yeah, especially since LO default saving format incorporates number of non- standard extensions that other ODF-compliant software will just ignore. Don't get me wrong - I appreciate many of these extensions, as they give me ability to use great features not covered by ODF spec. But I am also worried by the fact, that over thirty years after introducing first word processor software, we are still at a stage where documents can be freely exchanged only by users of the same software in the same version. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
in situations like this, independently of the work to be done to make libreoffice capable of opening those files you can use a version of microsoft office which supports odf to convert the file to odt. this can be an effective workaround I attach you the converted file (using microsoft office 2013). you can use these software to do the conversion from a shell: http://code.officeshots.org/trac/officeshots/browser/trunk/OfficeConvert I attach also a bat file which can help to automatize the conversion process best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:29, En/na C. H. D. ha escrit: Hello! Do I support LibreOffice? Yes, I do. Let me show some positive numbers: When I downloaded 400 .doc files, I opened 399 files in LibreOffice. Only 1 could not be opened. All 400 files were smaller than or equal to 692.5 KB. I started the testing from the smallest file to the largest file. It happened to be that I could not open that one file which was 692.5 KB. I am not a Maths expert. 399/400 = 99.75% Congratulations! This is excellent! Well done. To make a rough conclusion, I claim in a reasonable way that LibreOffice can open 99.75% of the .doc files I may come across in future if these files are smaller than 700KB. I do not know if these numbers are scientific enough. However, such information definitely helps me to say that LibreOffice 4 is really good! Microsoft Office is not my area of interest, by the way. It is just that someone uses it. There were cases when Word could not open .doc files in the past. These cases are not my area of interest. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letterinp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing Listusers@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 5:53 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 12/02/2013, C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
this mailing like doesn't like attachments, you can download it from there: convertidor_odf.7z (320 KB) https://mega.co.nz/#!o8IXHa7Q!JgsZ0xKsAagxtkHxy-c2lnacVUdN6zPJRcCGyJ_oRbo best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:58, En/na pasqual milvaques pons ha escrit: in situations like this, independently of the work to be done to make libreoffice capable of opening those files you can use a version of microsoft office which supports odf to convert the file to odt. this can be an effective workaround I attach you the converted file (using microsoft office 2013). you can use these software to do the conversion from a shell: http://code.officeshots.org/trac/officeshots/browser/trunk/OfficeConvert I attach also a bat file which can help to automatize the conversion process best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:29, En/na C. H. D. ha escrit: Hello! Do I support LibreOffice? Yes, I do. Let me show some positive numbers: When I downloaded 400 .doc files, I opened 399 files in LibreOffice. Only 1 could not be opened. All 400 files were smaller than or equal to 692.5 KB. I started the testing from the smallest file to the largest file. It happened to be that I could not open that one file which was 692.5 KB. I am not a Maths expert. 399/400 = 99.75% Congratulations! This is excellent! Well done. To make a rough conclusion, I claim in a reasonable way that LibreOffice can open 99.75% of the .doc files I may come across in future if these files are smaller than 700KB. I do not know if these numbers are scientific enough. However, such information definitely helps me to say that LibreOffice 4 is really good! Microsoft Office is not my area of interest, by the way. It is just that someone uses it. There were cases when Word could not open .doc files in the past. These cases are not my area of interest. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letterinp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing Listusers@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 5:53 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 12/02/2013, C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
Thanks for the idea. I would say that the development team responded very quickly. When I submitted a bug regarding not being able to open an OpenDocument file, the development team figured out the issue and made a patch in three days! Amazingly fast! I test that OpenDocument file and it will open in LibreOffice 4 (current version). Great! I think the development team will work it out soon. LibreOffice is good because the development team responds quickly. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ pasqual milvaques pons milvaques_...@gva.es 收件人︰ pasqual milvaques pons milvaques_...@gva.es 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 9:14 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document this mailing like doesn't like attachments, you can download it from there: convertidor_odf.7z (320 KB) https://mega.co.nz/#!o8IXHa7Q!JgsZ0xKsAagxtkHxy-c2lnacVUdN6zPJRcCGyJ_oRbo best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:58, En/na pasqual milvaques pons ha escrit: in situations like this, independently of the work to be done to make libreoffice capable of opening those files you can use a version of microsoft office which supports odf to convert the file to odt. this can be an effective workaround I attach you the converted file (using microsoft office 2013). you can use these software to do the conversion from a shell: http://code.officeshots.org/trac/officeshots/browser/trunk/OfficeConvert I attach also a bat file which can help to automatize the conversion process best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:29, En/na C. H. D. ha escrit: Hello! Do I support LibreOffice? Yes, I do. Let me show some positive numbers: When I downloaded 400 .doc files, I opened 399 files in LibreOffice. Only 1 could not be opened. All 400 files were smaller than or equal to 692.5 KB. I started the testing from the smallest file to the largest file. It happened to be that I could not open that one file which was 692.5 KB. I am not a Maths expert. 399/400 = 99.75% Congratulations! This is excellent! Well done. To make a rough conclusion, I claim in a reasonable way that LibreOffice can open 99.75% of the .doc files I may come across in future if these files are smaller than 700KB. I do not know if these numbers are scientific enough. However, such information definitely helps me to say that LibreOffice 4 is really good! Microsoft Office is not my area of interest, by the way. It is just that someone uses it. There were cases when Word could not open .doc files in the past. These cases are not my area of interest. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letterinp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing Listusers@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 5:53 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 12/02/2013, C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
On 02/12/2013 04:53 AM, e-letter wrote: On 12/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! If you bother to read the comments, the document is from a website and contacting the author will be difficult. The problem is likely that the author did some strange formatting that confuses many programs that normally open *.doc format files. The real issue is why a *.doc file instead of a *.pdf file on the web. I would follow Tom's suggestion and try several other options and see if one them works. Also, if the document is opened, even if the it looks wacky, try saving as odt or html if odt does not work. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS Excel file macros cause infinite loop of errors
On 02/12/2013 01:34 AM, e-letter wrote: On 11/02/2013, todd.e.moore todd.e.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Originally I posted under my todd.mo...@dynamicsystemsinc.com account.Unfortunately, I need the macros enabled. The spreadsheet is developed by another company and includes features/functions that we must use to properly submit requests.The behavior I observe is that after changing security settings to allow the macros to run, I receive a macro execution error that pops up on the screen. Clicking on the equivalent of ok, ignore, cancel just displays another error message. This continues for what seems about 30 clicks. Then the boxes no longer appear. Trying to do anything in the UI, even closing the file, starts the error message deluge again.I noticed the issue in v3.x.x and hoped that with v4.0.0 there may have been changes that would cope with the macros in this file. Unfortunately, the problems persist.Attaching file (1MB zip file containing a single MS Excel ) that causes this issue to occur. File_with_Bad_Macro.zip http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4036499/File_with_Bad_Macro.zip Amazed that a private company receives a proprietary file from another private company and asks the libre software community to solve a proprietary problem. LO is not an m$ clone. A business that can't afford to pay m$ licences, most probably shouldn't be in business. How does odf benefit from LO being used to solve your problem? Have you contacted the source of the document and asked them to re-format the document to ods? What did they say? ;) Have you contacted m$ and asked them to make their software easier to use with non-m$ products? Did you get a reply ? ;) How much company time have you wasted, compared to the cost of buying a legitimate copy of m$? Is your MD aware? e-letter The issue is macro conversion which is tricky at best. As budgets tighten many are looking for less expensive or free options for software and these issues are important to address in a polite manner not snide comments about the validity of their license or how they should use MSO. MS does not by their choice have versions of MSO for all OSes so depending on your OS you may not even have an option to use MSO. In previous post, it was noted that the macro may be buggy because it apparently does not always run correctly in Excel (2003). So there may have two independent problems: a buggy macro and macro conversion/interoperability. Macros are the hardest area to convert because of differences in the APIs between MSO and LO. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
Hi :) Brilliant! :) Nicely done! It did bother me a little that the macros didn't even work in MS Office. At my workplace we only have 1 set of documents that 'need' macros and they are all in the finance department. They were written for MSO 2010 and don't work in MSO 2007 and i'm guessing they wont work in MSO 2013 either. If the person writing the macros had not told us which version they were written for then we would have assumed they just don't work. As it is we had to buy MSO 2010 just a few months before 2013 was released. We only really needed it for 1 machine but ended up getting it for almost all machines. CHD is the chap that produced quite a few How-To videos and even managed to get them listed on the Documentation wiki. At the moment that is on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources but i'm just creating a separate page for videos https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/Videos and created a redirect for people that forget the Publications bit (ie such as myself in a few months). Now that i see he was doing research and has collected stats about it his whole mission there suddenly becomes more obvious and good to know about. It wasn't a paid-for bit of research with pre-planning and defined methodology and is not yet written up as a research paper and published anywhere except on this list so it's good to get the early results before it's all hidden behind fancy language! It's actually a little higher than i expected which is also good news :) 99.75% of documents being compatible is quite astounding! Thanks and regards from Tom :) From: pasqual milvaques pons milvaques_...@gva.es To: pasqual milvaques pons milvaques_...@gva.es Cc: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:14 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document this mailing like doesn't like attachments, you can download it from there: convertidor_odf.7z (320 KB) https://mega.co.nz/#!o8IXHa7Q!JgsZ0xKsAagxtkHxy-c2lnacVUdN6zPJRcCGyJ_oRbo best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:58, En/na pasqual milvaques pons ha escrit: in situations like this, independently of the work to be done to make libreoffice capable of opening those files you can use a version of microsoft office which supports odf to convert the file to odt. this can be an effective workaround I attach you the converted file (using microsoft office 2013). you can use these software to do the conversion from a shell: http://code.officeshots.org/trac/officeshots/browser/trunk/OfficeConvert I attach also a bat file which can help to automatize the conversion process best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:29, En/na C. H. D. ha escrit: Hello! Do I support LibreOffice? Yes, I do. Let me show some positive numbers: When I downloaded 400 .doc files, I opened 399 files in LibreOffice. Only 1 could not be opened. All 400 files were smaller than or equal to 692.5 KB. I started the testing from the smallest file to the largest file. It happened to be that I could not open that one file which was 692.5 KB. I am not a Maths expert. 399/400 = 99.75% Congratulations! This is excellent! Well done. To make a rough conclusion, I claim in a reasonable way that LibreOffice can open 99.75% of the .doc files I may come across in future if these files are smaller than 700KB. I do not know if these numbers are scientific enough. However, such information definitely helps me to say that LibreOffice 4 is really good! Microsoft Office is not my area of interest, by the way. It is just that someone uses it. There were cases when Word could not open .doc files in the past. These cases are not my area of interest. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letterinp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing Listusers@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 5:53 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 12/02/2013, C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS Excel file macros cause infinite loop of errors
Hi :) +1 to all of Jay's various points there. I totally agree. The another private company, the one that sent the offending spreadsheet, appears to be Oracle. So, 1. it's extremely unlikely that they will re-write the macros for LibreOffice or even for OpenOffice (same macro languages) 2. that fact the macros seem horribly broken is not a surprise either and they probably wont fix them 3. If we could fix them and send to the original poster so that he could send the results to the another company in an ODF document then that would be a bit of a triumph for all of us. Yes, it would be nice if someone here got paid for the work but that is unlikely to happen. Ideally i would like someone here to get paid perhaps somewhat less than the cost of new MSO licenses for the op's machines. Perhaps Andrew Pitonyak, Alex, Jay, Dan(?) or someone else that knows macro coding well enough to get it done quite quickly. At the moment the company that approached us doesn't have any versions of MSO (apart fromt he old 2003 lurking somewhere) and it's only being forced into buying MSO by this 1 document from Oracle!! It's outrageous that Oracle would do such a thing but again, no surprise! So, even if no-one got paid it would still be a good result for us. Regards from Tom :) From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 14:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS Excel file macros cause infinite loop of errors On 02/12/2013 01:34 AM, e-letter wrote: On 11/02/2013, todd.e.moore todd.e.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Originally I posted under my todd.mo...@dynamicsystemsinc.com account.Unfortunately, I need the macros enabled. The spreadsheet is developed by another company and includes features/functions that we must use to properly submit requests.The behavior I observe is that after changing security settings to allow the macros to run, I receive a macro execution error that pops up on the screen. Clicking on the equivalent of ok, ignore, cancel just displays another error message. This continues for what seems about 30 clicks. Then the boxes no longer appear. Trying to do anything in the UI, even closing the file, starts the error message deluge again.I noticed the issue in v3.x.x and hoped that with v4.0.0 there may have been changes that would cope with the macros in this file. Unfortunately, the problems persist.Attaching file (1MB zip file containing a single MS Excel ) that causes this issue to occur. File_with_Bad_Macro.zip http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4036499/File_with_Bad_Macro.zip Amazed that a private company receives a proprietary file from another private company and asks the libre software community to solve a proprietary problem. LO is not an m$ clone. A business that can't afford to pay m$ licences, most probably shouldn't be in business. How does odf benefit from LO being used to solve your problem? Have you contacted the source of the document and asked them to re-format the document to ods? What did they say? ;) Have you contacted m$ and asked them to make their software easier to use with non-m$ products? Did you get a reply ? ;) How much company time have you wasted, compared to the cost of buying a legitimate copy of m$? Is your MD aware? e-letter The issue is macro conversion which is tricky at best. As budgets tighten many are looking for less expensive or free options for software and these issues are important to address in a polite manner not snide comments about the validity of their license or how they should use MSO. MS does not by their choice have versions of MSO for all OSes so depending on your OS you may not even have an option to use MSO. In previous post, it was noted that the macro may be buggy because it apparently does not always run correctly in Excel (2003). So there may have two independent problems: a buggy macro and macro conversion/interoperability. Macros are the hardest area to convert because of differences in the APIs between MSO and LO. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS Excel file macros cause infinite loop of errors
My original objective in submitting to the forum was to determine if an LO/OO bug or limitation was being exposed by the macros found in the sample file rather than having folks in the development team or community expend the effort to fix the offending file. To me, the issue is now closed. On 2/12/13 9:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) +1 to all of Jay's various points there. I totally agree. The another private company, the one that sent the offending spreadsheet, appears to be Oracle. So, 1. it's extremely unlikely that they will re-write the macros for LibreOffice or even for OpenOffice (same macro languages) 2. that fact the macros seem horribly broken is not a surprise either and they probably wont fix them 3. If we could fix them and send to the original poster so that he could send the results to the another company in an ODF document then that would be a bit of a triumph for all of us. Yes, it would be nice if someone here got paid for the work but that is unlikely to happen. Ideally i would like someone here to get paid perhaps somewhat less than the cost of new MSO licenses for the op's machines. Perhaps Andrew Pitonyak, Alex, Jay, Dan(?) or someone else that knows macro coding well enough to get it done quite quickly. At the moment the company that approached us doesn't have any versions of MSO (apart fromt he old 2003 lurking somewhere) and it's only being forced into buying MSO by this 1 document from Oracle!! It's outrageous that Oracle would do such a thing but again, no surprise! So, even if no-one got paid it would still be a good result for us. Regards from Tom :) From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 14:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS Excel file macros cause infinite loop of errors On 02/12/2013 01:34 AM, e-letter wrote: On 11/02/2013, todd.e.moore todd.e.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Originally I posted under my todd.mo...@dynamicsystemsinc.com account.Unfortunately, I need the macros enabled. The spreadsheet is developed by another company and includes features/functions that we must use to properly submit requests.The behavior I observe is that after changing security settings to allow the macros to run, I receive a macro execution error that pops up on the screen. Clicking on the equivalent of ok, ignore, cancel just displays another error message. This continues for what seems about 30 clicks. Then the boxes no longer appear. Trying to do anything in the UI, even closing the file, starts the error message deluge again.I noticed the issue in v3.x.x and hoped that with v4.0.0 there may have been changes that would cope with the macros in this file. Unfortunately, the problems persist.Attaching file (1MB zip file containing a single MS Excel ) that causes this issue to occur. File_with_Bad_Macro.zip http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4036499/File_with_Bad_Macro.zip Amazed that a private company receives a proprietary file from another private company and asks the libre software community to solve a proprietary problem. LO is not an m$ clone. A business that can't afford to pay m$ licences, most probably shouldn't be in business. How does odf benefit from LO being used to solve your problem? Have you contacted the source of the document and asked them to re-format the document to ods? What did they say? ;) Have you contacted m$ and asked them to make their software easier to use with non-m$ products? Did you get a reply ? ;) How much company time have you wasted, compared to the cost of buying a legitimate copy of m$? Is your MD aware? e-letter The issue is macro conversion which is tricky at best. As budgets tighten many are looking for less expensive or free options for software and these issues are important to address in a polite manner not snide comments about the validity of their license or how they should use MSO. MS does not by their choice have versions of MSO for all OSes so depending on your OS you may not even have an option to use MSO. In previous post, it was noted that the macro may be buggy because it apparently does not always run correctly in Excel (2003). So there may have two independent problems: a buggy macro and macro conversion/interoperability. Macros are the hardest area to convert because of differences in the APIs between MSO and LO. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
Hi :) The situation is improving now that people are moving to ODF more and more. Relying on a single companies whims has of course left a lingering problem but ODF is defined by a large group of companies most of which produce software that is designed to read the formats. So, if you stick with MS formats then you are still relying on a situation that hasn't changed in 30years. If you have moved to ODF then things are a lot more stable and reliable because there are a lot of products that can read ODF sucessfully. Regards from Tom :) From: Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 12:49 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 12/02/2013 at 10:53, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. Yeah, especially since LO default saving format incorporates number of non- standard extensions that other ODF-compliant software will just ignore. Don't get me wrong - I appreciate many of these extensions, as they give me ability to use great features not covered by ODF spec. But I am also worried by the fact, that over thirty years after introducing first word processor software, we are still at a stage where documents can be freely exchanged only by users of the same software in the same version. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60710 - EDITING: Cannot save particular untitled document containing comments
I reproduced it once and now for the life of me I can't.very strange. Trying a few more times Best Regards, Joel On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:14 PM, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! In my use case, I cannot save a particular untitled document. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60710 I should be grateful if you have a look. The video is here: http://youtu.be/9ImnaTY65gA Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 2013-02-10 10:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. Never heard of 'tab-completion'? Try hitting the tab key after typing one or two characters of the folder name and see what happens... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0: intrinsic database: relations only between primaries keys?
Alex == Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com writes: On 02/11/2013 11:31 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote: Hi Uwe, As I said, in another mail, when I connect the data base to mysql via ODBC then I can set more relations, but they are not saved.. I take it that you are using InnoDB engine in your mysql db ? Aha, good question. Well show engines; showed InnoDB | YES | Supports transactions | YES | YES | YES So I presume the answer is yes. Otherwise, e.g. if you are using myisam or heap as the default engine, relations are not supported by mysql, i.e. they are not enforced (although they can be stored as a textual reference). This is true whether you are using ODBC, JDBC or the native mysql connector to reach your tables from within LO. A question, can you set various relations between tables, using mysql and they are saved? Uwe -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0: intrinsic database: relations only between primaries keys?
Dan == Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com writes: Perhaps you need to learn more about primary keys, foreign keys, and the relationship that must exist between them. Another topic that would help is normalizing tables. Still another topic is constraints that must be applied to either type of keys. (This one really goes to the error message you got. (I make these suggestions because it is what I had to do to understand tables in a relational database.) Yes of course, I desperately need to learn more. But the issue is that the GUI seems only to set and save relations between primaries keys. Did you try it out via the GUI, what is your experience? I am a little curious. Your email address implies you may live in Spain. Yes, I do. Your name looks German to me. If you are German, then there is a Base Handbook written in German that you might be able to use. Yes again, I am German. Tom might be able to tell you from where to download it on the LibreOffice wiki if that would help. That would be extremely helpful. I googled around of course but mostly found old material (2007/08). As far as MySQL problems, I think I tried to modify fields in a table while using MySQL. They were not saved either. Aha so there is a problem?! Uwe -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0: intrinsic database: relations only between primaries keys?
On 02/12/2013 05:59 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote: Hi Uwe, Well show engines; showed InnoDB | YES | Supports transactions | YES | YES | YES So I presume the answer is yes. In theory, yes, but you might want to check each table to see whether it does actually use the InnoDB engine and has not defaulted to myisam. This is true whether you are using ODBC, JDBC or the native mysql connector to reach your tables from within LO. A question, can you set various relations between tables, using mysql and they are saved? Yes, but I don't use LO for this, I either code it by hand from the mysql command line interface or when I'm feeling lazy use phpmysqladmin or MySQL Workbench. The reason : LO, and previously OOo, did not always make a very good job of defining my table fields the way I wanted them. Alex Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0: intrinsic database: relations only between primaries keys?
On 02/12/2013 06:03 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote: Hi Uwe, Robert Grosskopf wrote a handbook in German that should be available on the German LO wiki somewhere. As far as MySQL problems, I think I tried to modify fields in a table while using MySQL. They were not saved either. You might be right, I haven't tried this recently. I gave up using LO or even OOo to define my fields in mysql because it used to mess them up somewhat, so I took to doing things via the command line interface. It was hard going (and sometimes still is with mysql's rather unhelpful obscure error messages), but at least I learnt more that way. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Feature Request
I know this is a bad time, since 4.0 was just released, but improvement is an ongoing process. For the 'recent documents' menu selection under 'file', it would be nice to: 1) allow us to set the number of recent documents, under tools/options. 2) allow us, in the recent menu, to right click and set certain files to 'permanent' so they will not fifo off the stack. An asterisk (blue?) could act as a visual flag. John -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:04 AM, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I know this is a bad time, since 4.0 was just released, but improvement is an ongoing process. For the 'recent documents' menu selection under 'file', it would be nice to: 1) allow us to set the number of recent documents, under tools/options. 2) allow us, in the recent menu, to right click and set certain files to 'permanent' so they will not fifo off the stack. An asterisk (blue?) could act as a visual flag. Feature requests should be made through our bug tracker, most devs don't follow the user mailing list (they already have way too much on their plates). https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details Best Regards, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
I went to the site that you recommended. I could not find any feature request link. I searched for 'feature', no luck. I also could not find a reference to 'recent', as my 'feature request' might be interpreted to mean that it is a 'bug'. I searched the entire page. John On 02/12/2013 11:33 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:04 AM, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net mailto:jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I know this is a bad time, since 4.0 was just released, but improvement is an ongoing process. For the 'recent documents' menu selection under 'file', it would be nice to: 1) allow us to set the number of recent documents, under tools/options. 2) allow us, in the recent menu, to right click and set certain files to 'permanent' so they will not fifo off the stack. An asterisk (blue?) could act as a visual flag. Feature requests should be made through our bug tracker, most devs don't follow the user mailing list (they already have way too much on their plates). https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details Best Regards, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com mailto:jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 02/12/2013 11:10 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-10 10:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. Never heard of 'tab-completion'? Try hitting the tab key after typing one or two characters of the folder name and see what happens... Never heard of this. Never know of the Tab completion in the Terminal. Does it work with the Terminal that is in GNOME, MATE, Unity, KDE? How about the one that comes with openSUSE and other non-Ubuntu systems. I have been told that Debian and Ubuntu is growing apart so some distros are showing both Ubuntu-based and Debian-based versions. What happens when you have two folders that are similar characters, except some difference? LibreOffice-4.0-installsvs. LibreOffice-3.6-installs? You would have to make sure you go out till the difference? I tend to unarchive all of the downloaded file for my version at the same time. For me, that is just the main install and the help pack. /To be honest, I never really got into doing all that much with the terminal. I prefer to use a GUI to do the work. There are a very large amount of things that the terminal can do that I do not know of, or how to do those things that might help me once and a while. I just never bought or download and GOODand easy to understand reference to what you can do in the terminal. Of course, there are different ways to do things in a Ubuntu/Debian system than you would do the same thing in a openSUSE or RPM system. Different commands and such. // // //I have tried things that others say work for the, but does not work in my install of Ubuntu. That is one reason I have a laptop that has a partition that I use to test new versions of Ubuntu and desktop environments. I do not want to upgrade my 5 TB production desktop and then find that something is not right. I did the upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 on the laptop and it worked fine, but totally crashed on my desktop causing me to need to wipe the system and do a fresh install. I really did not want to have to reinstall all of the packages over again, but in the end I had no choice to do so and move my data files from my external backup drive. That took days to complete./ SO I do not experiment with things on the Terminal, or almost never. I would love to experiment and see about creating a script that would automate the install of LO from an earlier versionusing something like sh libre-update.run and then have it do the removal of the older version and install the newer one. I could place it in the folderthat contains the DEBS folder so it will be version independent. But, if I do something wrong, how bad will it go wrong? So right now I am not going toexperiment that way. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
On 02/12/2013 02:04 PM, John R. Sowden wrote: I know this is a bad time, since 4.0 was just released, but improvement is an ongoing process. For the 'recent documents' menu selection under 'file', it would be nice to: 1) allow us to set the number of recent documents, under tools/options. 2) allow us, in the recent menu, to right click and set certain files to 'permanent' so they will not fifo off the stack. An asterisk (blue?) could act as a visual flag. John I remember seeing some packages that allow you to define the number of recent documents are kept in the queue. I never seen the permanent one, but that would be an interesting thing to have. That way, if you are actively working on editing and updating documents on a regular basis, you do not have them removed from the recent list because you were required to do some other more pressing and time sensitive work. I wonder how it might be done. Also, it would be nice to be able to clear the list from time to time to keep other users of a shared system from snooping into what work you are doing for others. I knows this might dealt with only using user accounts that point to user only folders, but I have worked at places where you did not have that ability of keeping your work away from the other users of the system. Even if you used thumbdrives to store the data files, the other users could access the list of files you worked on. Wiping work history would be a good thing for some. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
Don't worry, just file it as a bug, and explain that it is a feature request. The devs will understand. On Tuesday, 12 February 2013, John R. Sowden wrote: I went to the site that you recommended. I could not find any feature request link. I searched for 'feature', no luck. I also could not find a reference to 'recent', as my 'feature request' might be interpreted to mean that it is a 'bug'. I searched the entire page. John On 02/12/2013 11:33 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:04 AM, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net mailto:jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I know this is a bad time, since 4.0 was just released, but improvement is an ongoing process. For the 'recent documents' menu selection under 'file', it would be nice to: 1) allow us to set the number of recent documents, under tools/options. 2) allow us, in the recent menu, to right click and set certain files to 'permanent' so they will not fifo off the stack. An asterisk (blue?) could act as a visual flag. Feature requests should be made through our bug tracker, most devs don't follow the user mailing list (they already have way too much on their plates). https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**BugReport_Detailshttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details Best Regards, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com mailto:jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
I will follow your advice, although I think that this process needs review. I feel that it is disrespectful to the people that are creating this great program to say that since My Idea (emphasis added) is not there, then it is a bug. Secondly, good improvements from actual users might not be suggested because of the above and the fact that it is not clear where to request them. John On 02/12/2013 11:51 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net mailto:jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I went to the site that you recommended. I could not find any feature request link. I searched for 'feature', no luck. I also could not find a reference to 'recent', as my 'feature request' might be interpreted to mean that it is a 'bug'. I searched the entire page. My mistake, should have clarified, report it as if it's a bug, then it can be changed to Enhancement by QA team :-D -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com mailto:jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi :) Tab complete is what i was trying to describe in this thread the other day, possibly yday although it's already nearly tomorrow here so possibly the day before yday. Works on any unix-based platform so that includes Bsd although possibly not Mac. I've not seen a command-line on a Mac. Also works on the Grub command-line although i try to avoid that even more than the regular command-line as i'm even more clueless there. Pointclick rules! (unless you are showing off) Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 19:52 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb On 02/12/2013 11:10 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-10 10:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. Never heard of 'tab-completion'? Try hitting the tab key after typing one or two characters of the folder name and see what happens... Never heard of this. Never know of the Tab completion in the Terminal. Does it work with the Terminal that is in GNOME, MATE, Unity, KDE? How about the one that comes with openSUSE and other non-Ubuntu systems. I have been told that Debian and Ubuntu is growing apart so some distros are showing both Ubuntu-based and Debian-based versions. What happens when you have two folders that are similar characters, except some difference? LibreOffice-4.0-installsvs. LibreOffice-3.6-installs? You would have to make sure you go out till the difference? I tend to unarchive all of the downloaded file for my version at the same time. For me, that is just the main install and the help pack. /To be honest, I never really got into doing all that much with the terminal. I prefer to use a GUI to do the work. There are a very large amount of things that the terminal can do that I do not know of, or how to do those things that might help me once and a while. I just never bought or download and GOODand easy to understand reference to what you can do in the terminal. Of course, there are different ways to do things in a Ubuntu/Debian system than you would do the same thing in a openSUSE or RPM system. Different commands and such. // // //I have tried things that others say work for the, but does not work in my install of Ubuntu. That is one reason I have a laptop that has a partition that I use to test new versions of Ubuntu and desktop environments. I do not want to upgrade my 5 TB production desktop and then find that something is not right. I did the upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 on the laptop and it worked fine, but totally crashed on my desktop causing me to need to wipe the system and do a fresh install. I really did not want to have to reinstall all of the packages over again, but in the end I had no choice to do so and move my data files from my external backup drive. That took days to complete./ SO I do not experiment with things on the Terminal, or almost never. I would love to experiment and see about creating a script that would automate the install of LO from an earlier versionusing something like sh libre-update.run and then have it do the removal of the older version and install the newer one. I could place it in the folderthat contains the DEBS folder so it will be version independent. But, if I do something wrong, how bad will it go wrong? So right now I am not going toexperiment that way. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi :) Ok, so how about running a Virtual Machine? Perhaps acquire an old hard-drive that you don't care about too much and physically unplug all your 5Tb and then plug in the experimental one. Btw on a command-line if 2 pathnames or file-names are quite close to each other then when you press Tab it will show the 2 or more options and then give you a new prompt with all the stuff you had already typed already on it. Sounds complicated but try it and you'll soon work it out. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 19:52 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb On 02/12/2013 11:10 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-10 10:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. Never heard of 'tab-completion'? Try hitting the tab key after typing one or two characters of the folder name and see what happens... Never heard of this. Never know of the Tab completion in the Terminal. Does it work with the Terminal that is in GNOME, MATE, Unity, KDE? How about the one that comes with openSUSE and other non-Ubuntu systems. I have been told that Debian and Ubuntu is growing apart so some distros are showing both Ubuntu-based and Debian-based versions. What happens when you have two folders that are similar characters, except some difference? LibreOffice-4.0-installsvs. LibreOffice-3.6-installs? You would have to make sure you go out till the difference? I tend to unarchive all of the downloaded file for my version at the same time. For me, that is just the main install and the help pack. /To be honest, I never really got into doing all that much with the terminal. I prefer to use a GUI to do the work. There are a very large amount of things that the terminal can do that I do not know of, or how to do those things that might help me once and a while. I just never bought or download and GOODand easy to understand reference to what you can do in the terminal. Of course, there are different ways to do things in a Ubuntu/Debian system than you would do the same thing in a openSUSE or RPM system. Different commands and such. // // //I have tried things that others say work for the, but does not work in my install of Ubuntu. That is one reason I have a laptop that has a partition that I use to test new versions of Ubuntu and desktop environments. I do not want to upgrade my 5 TB production desktop and then find that something is not right. I did the upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 on the laptop and it worked fine, but totally crashed on my desktop causing me to need to wipe the system and do a fresh install. I really did not want to have to reinstall all of the packages over again, but in the end I had no choice to do so and move my data files from my external backup drive. That took days to complete./ SO I do not experiment with things on the Terminal, or almost never. I would love to experiment and see about creating a script that would automate the install of LO from an earlier versionusing something like sh libre-update.run and then have it do the removal of the older version and install the newer one. I could place it in the folderthat contains the DEBS folder so it will be version independent. But, if I do something wrong, how bad will it go wrong? So right now I am not going toexperiment that way. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Changing the LibreOffice icons (Linux)
I don't know if this is the best place (I couldn't see a developer mailing list outside the internal-focused ones) but here goes. I use LibreOffice on openSUSE Linux. I've got a custom icon set that replaces the application icons for LibreOffice. This works fine for launcher icons, but once the program is running (e.g. I'm editing a file in LO Writer) then the current app icon and the Alt-Tab app switcher use the original icons (upscaled horribly from about 24x24 to 64x64). As best as I can tell, Gnome is honouring the _NET_WM_ICON property of the window, which does show the old style icons when you query it with xprop. I'm not talking about the toolbar icons, which I know there are multiple themes that I can select from, but the actual launcher icon, and the one that Gnome Shell uses to show you which app is running. Is it possible to either a) get LibreOffice to use my theme's icons for _NET_WM_ICON or b) replace some files pre-build, and if so, which ones? I've got an account that already has some repackaged software on the openSUSE Build Service (OBS), so I'm not afraid of patching packages, if that is the only option :) Thanks. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
On 02/12/2013 03:01 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: On 02/12/2013 02:04 PM, John R. Sowden wrote: I know this is a bad time, since 4.0 was just released, but improvement is an ongoing process. For the 'recent documents' menu selection under 'file', it would be nice to: 1) allow us to set the number of recent documents, under tools/options. 2) allow us, in the recent menu, to right click and set certain files to 'permanent' so they will not fifo off the stack. An asterisk (blue?) could act as a visual flag. John I remember seeing some packages that allow you to define the number of recent documents are kept in the queue. I never seen the permanent one, but that would be an interesting thing to have. That way, if you are actively working on editing and updating documents on a regular basis, you do not have them removed from the recent list because you were required to do some other more pressing and time sensitive work. I wonder how it might be done. Also, it would be nice to be able to clear the list from time to time to keep other users of a shared system from snooping into what work you are doing for others. I knows this might dealt with only using user accounts that point to user only folders, but I have worked at places where you did not have that ability of keeping your work away from the other users of the system. Even if you used thumbdrives to store the data files, the other users could access the list of files you worked on. Wiping work history would be a good thing for some. This was mentioned on this mailing list probably the latter part of last year. An extension was first created for OpenOffice.org before Sun was bought by Oracle. The name is History Maker. It will work for LO as well. You can get it here: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/HistoryMaster. It only changes the number of documents kept on the recent document list. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
Hi :) The QA team and bug-triagers are pretty smart so they can sort it out for you (or others). There are a lot of drop-downs on the page and it's a little tricky to find the right one but when you know where it is then you could help the bug-triagers by just doing that for a whole load of 'bug-reports' where the poster grumbles that they couldn't find the option. There's all sorts of simple, dumb, easy things that can be quite a significant help and can help you learn your way in to doing more and more complex stuff. Regards from Tom :) From: John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 20:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request I will follow your advice, although I think that this process needs review. I feel that it is disrespectful to the people that are creating this great program to say that since My Idea (emphasis added) is not there, then it is a bug. Secondly, good improvements from actual users might not be suggested because of the above and the fact that it is not clear where to request them. John On 02/12/2013 11:51 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net mailto:jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I went to the site that you recommended. I could not find any feature request link. I searched for 'feature', no luck. I also could not find a reference to 'recent', as my 'feature request' might be interpreted to mean that it is a 'bug'. I searched the entire page. My mistake, should have clarified, report it as if it's a bug, then it can be changed to Enhancement by QA team :-D -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com mailto:jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
On 02/12/2013 03:11 PM, John R. Sowden wrote: I will follow your advice, although I think that this process needs review. I feel that it is disrespectful to the people that are creating this great program to say that since My Idea (emphasis added) is not there, then it is a bug. Secondly, good improvements from actual users might not be suggested because of the above and the fact that it is not clear where to request them. John John, Using the bug tracking system and flagging it as feature request puts all the issues for the devs and QA team in one central spot. Unfortunately the use of bug tracking is sometimes a little misleading . Jay On 02/12/2013 11:51 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net mailto:jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I went to the site that you recommended. I could not find any feature request link. I searched for 'feature', no luck. I also could not find a reference to 'recent', as my 'feature request' might be interpreted to mean that it is a 'bug'. I searched the entire page. My mistake, should have clarified, report it as if it's a bug, then it can be changed to Enhancement by QA team :-D -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com mailto:jmadero@gmail.com -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] icons
Is there anywhere that does different icon sets .. sorry, but I think the ones that come with opensuse are a bit boring Ta M -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Changing the LibreOffice icons (Linux)
On 02/12/2013 03:29 PM, IBBoard wrote: I don't know if this is the best place (I couldn't see a developer mailing list outside the internal-focused ones) but here goes. I use LibreOffice on openSUSE Linux. I've got a custom icon set that replaces the application icons for LibreOffice. This works fine for launcher icons, but once the program is running (e.g. I'm editing a file in LO Writer) then the current app icon and the Alt-Tab app switcher use the original icons (upscaled horribly from about 24x24 to 64x64). As best as I can tell, Gnome is honouring the _NET_WM_ICON property of the window, which does show the old style icons when you query it with xprop. I'm not talking about the toolbar icons, which I know there are multiple themes that I can select from, but the actual launcher icon, and the one that Gnome Shell uses to show you which app is running. Is it possible to either a) get LibreOffice to use my theme's icons for _NET_WM_ICON or b) replace some files pre-build, and if so, which ones? I've got an account that already has some repackaged software on the openSUSE Build Service (OBS), so I'm not afraid of patching packages, if that is the only option :) Thanks. Maybe the solution is to include other icon sizes, like 24x24 and 64x64, or maybe larger ones, for those systems that might need or use them. Small, medium, large, and extra-large, icons might work for those who are on systems where you can change the icon size. I think Win7 has only two icon sizes to choose from. I do not remember seeing that option in my Ubuntu/MATE install, though. It could be there and I never seen where the option resides. So, maybe there might be a need for icon sizes other than the two being used already. Debian install[s] show icon=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/libreoffice4.0-writer.png\ icon16x16=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/libreoffice4.0-writer.png Could there be an icon24x24 and icon64x64 added to the desktop-integration system? How many systems would work with more than just the default two sizes? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
I am one of the QA members and I assure you, no developer is offended that a feature request is reported as a bug. It is our (QA) job to ensure that they are categorized correctly after the request/bug is confirmed. @Tom - thanks for the compliment :-D Best Regards, Joel On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) The QA team and bug-triagers are pretty smart so they can sort it out for you (or others). There are a lot of drop-downs on the page and it's a little tricky to find the right one but when you know where it is then you could help the bug-triagers by just doing that for a whole load of 'bug-reports' where the poster grumbles that they couldn't find the option. There's all sorts of simple, dumb, easy things that can be quite a significant help and can help you learn your way in to doing more and more complex stuff. Regards from Tom :) From: John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 20:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request I will follow your advice, although I think that this process needs review. I feel that it is disrespectful to the people that are creating this great program to say that since My Idea (emphasis added) is not there, then it is a bug. Secondly, good improvements from actual users might not be suggested because of the above and the fact that it is not clear where to request them. John On 02/12/2013 11:51 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net mailto:jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I went to the site that you recommended. I could not find any feature request link. I searched for 'feature', no luck. I also could not find a reference to 'recent', as my 'feature request' might be interpreted to mean that it is a 'bug'. I searched the entire page. My mistake, should have clarified, report it as if it's a bug, then it can be changed to Enhancement by QA team :-D -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com mailto:jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
On 2013-02-12 3:11 PM, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I will follow your advice, although I think that this process needs review. I feel that it is disrespectful to the people that are creating this great program to say that since My Idea (emphasis added) is not there, then it is a bug. Hi John, You must be new to the world of open source software. Virtually *all* open source software projects track Feature Requests in their bug trackers... usually you just flag it as an enhancement request, but it is still in the big tracker. It is just a convenience thing, no disrespect intended... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 2013-02-12 2:52 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 02/12/2013 11:10 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-10 10:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. Never heard of 'tab-completion'? Try hitting the tab key after typing one or two characters of the folder name and see what happens... Never heard of this. Never know of the Tab completion in the Terminal. Does it work with the Terminal that is in GNOME, MATE, Unity, KDE? How about the one that comes with openSUSE and other non-Ubuntu systems. I have been told that Debian and Ubuntu is growing apart so some distros are showing both Ubuntu-based and Debian-based versions. It works in virtually all *nix that I'm aware of, and DOS and Windows Command Prompt terminals, and has for as long long time... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_completion -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Fwd:
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd:
Hi :) Ooops. A bit of accidental spam from Drew of all people. I risked the link in GnuLinux and it's just a weight-loss thing from Foxx. Probably best not to risk it in Windows jic but it seemed harmless Regards from Tom :) From: Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 20:56 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: http://lasvegassuites.org/downrightawesome.com/nanw54.php?s=ot -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Changing the LibreOffice icons (Linux)
The Linux icons can be a variety of sizes - Chromium supplies a 64x64 icon in the xprop reported icon set (or possibly bigger) as well as the two sizes that LibreOffice shows. Does Libreoffice actually load its app icons from /usr/share/icons/hicolor? I've tried replacing those icons with symlinks to my icons (an ugly bodge, but potentially workable) and rebuilt the icon caches, but nothing seemed to change so I assumed there was another source that they were read from or that the icons were built in at compile-time. Thanks. On Feb 12, 2013 9:34 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 02/12/2013 03:29 PM, IBBoard wrote: I don't know if this is the best place (I couldn't see a developer mailing list outside the internal-focused ones) but here goes. I use LibreOffice on openSUSE Linux. I've got a custom icon set that replaces the application icons for LibreOffice. This works fine for launcher icons, but once the program is running (e.g. I'm editing a file in LO Writer) then the current app icon and the Alt-Tab app switcher use the original icons (upscaled horribly from about 24x24 to 64x64). As best as I can tell, Gnome is honouring the _NET_WM_ICON property of the window, which does show the old style icons when you query it with xprop. I'm not talking about the toolbar icons, which I know there are multiple themes that I can select from, but the actual launcher icon, and the one that Gnome Shell uses to show you which app is running. Is it possible to either a) get LibreOffice to use my theme's icons for _NET_WM_ICON or b) replace some files pre-build, and if so, which ones? I've got an account that already has some repackaged software on the openSUSE Build Service (OBS), so I'm not afraid of patching packages, if that is the only option :) Thanks. Maybe the solution is to include other icon sizes, like 24x24 and 64x64, or maybe larger ones, for those systems that might need or use them. Small, medium, large, and extra-large, icons might work for those who are on systems where you can change the icon size. I think Win7 has only two icon sizes to choose from. I do not remember seeing that option in my Ubuntu/MATE install, though. It could be there and I never seen where the option resides. So, maybe there might be a need for icon sizes other than the two being used already. Debian install[s] show icon=/usr/share/icons/**hicolor/32x32/apps/**libreoffice4.0-writer.png\ icon16x16=/usr/share/icons/**hicolor/16x16/apps/** libreoffice4.0-writer.png Could there be an icon24x24 and icon64x64 added to the desktop-integration system? How many systems would work with more than just the default two sizes? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.** org users%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] icons
The tool bar icons. OpenSuse include about 4 ... I love LO I just think the ones you get with openSuse are a bit dated Ta M _ From: IBBoard [mailto:ibbo...@gmail.com] To: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info] Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:34:52 + Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] icons Which icons? The launcher icons or the toolbar icons? I'm not on my opensuse machine now, but I think they package some of the toolbar icon themes separately. There are also launcher icons in some sets on sites like gnome-look, but as I'm just finding then they don't seem to be applied once the app opens. On Feb 12, 2013 9:19 PM, Malcolm Moore st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info wrote: Is there anywhere that does different icon sets .. sorry, but I think the ones that come with opensuse are a bit boring Ta M -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0: intrinsic database: relations only between primaries keys?
Hi :) Robert Großkopf on the Docs Team's amiling list gave me this link http://de.libreoffice.org/hilfe-kontakt/handbuecher/ Hope it helps! Good luck and happy hunting ;) Regards from Tom :) From: Uwe Brauer o...@mat.ucm.es To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 17:03 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0: intrinsic database: relations only between primaries keys? Dan == Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com writes: Perhaps you need to learn more about primary keys, foreign keys, and the relationship that must exist between them. Another topic that would help is normalizing tables. Still another topic is constraints that must be applied to either type of keys. (This one really goes to the error message you got. (I make these suggestions because it is what I had to do to understand tables in a relational database.) Yes of course, I desperately need to learn more. But the issue is that the GUI seems only to set and save relations between primaries keys. Did you try it out via the GUI, what is your experience? I am a little curious. Your email address implies you may live in Spain. Yes, I do. Your name looks German to me. If you are German, then there is a Base Handbook written in German that you might be able to use. Yes again, I am German. Tom might be able to tell you from where to download it on the LibreOffice wiki if that would help. That would be extremely helpful. I googled around of course but mostly found old material (2007/08). As far as MySQL problems, I think I tried to modify fields in a table while using MySQL. They were not saved either. Aha so there is a problem?! Uwe -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Value and Date function in Macro
Can you post your code here? You may send me a copy of the document, but I have much on my plate at the moment. On 02/11/2013 06:41 PM, Joel Madero wrote: So I came out with a really micky mouse way that works but I don't like it. I'm hoping one of you (or someone else or both of you) will help me with the entire code so that I can clean it up. I'm not a programmer by profession (no formal training) so I know the code has issues - but it works! Any way that we can take this off the thread and I'll send the template your way? I know this is asking a lot so no worries if not possible. I'm not asking someone to do it for me, more like tutor me when you have time to get the code up to snuff. Thanks for everyone's help up to date, much help. Best Regards, Joel On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 02/10/2013 04:49 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Oh no, I did it again! I sent yet another reply directly to the original poster. I feel your pain! :-) -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odthttp://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.** org users%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0: intrinsic database: relations only between primaries keys?
On 02/12/2013 12:03 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote: Dan == Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com writes: Perhaps you need to learn more about primary keys, foreign keys, and the relationship that must exist between them. Another topic that would help is normalizing tables. Still another topic is constraints that must be applied to either type of keys. (This one really goes to the error message you got. (I make these suggestions because it is what I had to do to understand tables in a relational database.) Yes of course, I desperately need to learn more. But the issue is that the GUI seems only to set and save relations between primaries keys. Did you try it out via the GUI, what is your experience? I am a little curious. Your email address implies you may live in Spain. Yes, I do. Your name looks German to me. If you are German, then there is a Base Handbook written in German that you might be able to use. Yes again, I am German. Tom might be able to tell you from where to download it on the LibreOffice wiki if that would help. That would be extremely helpful. I googled around of course but mostly found old material (2007/08). As far as MySQL problems, I think I tried to modify fields in a table while using MySQL. They were not saved either. Aha so there is a problem?! Uwe At the time I thought there was a problem, but after writing about MySQL, I tried again. This time I was able to modify a field and later when editing that table, I saw that the changes had been saved. If you saw this link: http://de.libreoffice.org/hilfe-kontakt/handbuecher/, this should explain what you need to know in a language that you better understand than English. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60710 - EDITING: Cannot save particular untitled document containing comments
Hi! I got it. To reproduce, see the video: http://youtu.be/_XotQrTvGJM Add random comments. Delete one of them. I reproduced this issue three times. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 11:55 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60710 - EDITING: Cannot save particular untitled document containing comments I reproduced it once and now for the life of me I can't.very strange. Trying a few more times Best Regards, Joel On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:14 PM, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! In my use case, I cannot save a particular untitled document. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60710 I should be grateful if you have a look. The video is here: http://youtu.be/9ImnaTY65gA Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60710 - EDITING: Cannot save particular untitled document containing comments
Someone else got the same issue: http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12015/cannot-save-file-error-in-writing-sub-document/ Perhaps, this issue is quite common. (Not being able to save the file could be very inconvenient.) Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 收件人︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月13日 (週三) 11:27 AM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60710 - EDITING: Cannot save particular untitled document containing comments Hi! I got it. To reproduce, see the video: http://youtu.be/_XotQrTvGJM Add random comments. Delete one of them. I reproduced this issue three times. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 11:55 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60710 - EDITING: Cannot save particular untitled document containing comments I reproduced it once and now for the life of me I can't.very strange. Trying a few more times Best Regards, Joel On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:14 PM, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! In my use case, I cannot save a particular untitled document. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60710 I should be grateful if you have a look. The video is here: http://youtu.be/9ImnaTY65gA Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] irritating problem 4.0
Hi, created a FAQ for myself in Fedora 16 using LO3.6. When I upgraded to Fedora 18 I was also using 3.6. I really can't remember but I would say the version of LO came from the Fedora repository (it isn't installed by default in F18). The FAQ is a very basic ODT file. I created an index at the front using the defaults provided so index is based on defaults - Heading1 is position 1, Heading2 is position 2 Heading3 is position3, etc. Anyway, all good, the document grew as I grabbed more information. Mostly I just added lines to the end, in some cases I added a new heading which went into the index. Yesterday I downloaded the latest LO version from the official site. removed 3.6 and installed 4.0. Today, I updated the FAQ with some GIT information. So I created a new heading1 for GIT with a heading2 underneath. And a few lines of information along the way (in the format text body). When I updated the index, all lines I had typed in were added to the index. Plus a few from the page before and the page after. But not all pages! So I reinstalled 3.6 and updated the index but the same problem persists. I have read the writer guide often enough recently to have a pretty good idea how this works but I am stumped. Any thoughts on how to sort out the index? Cheers -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request
At 11:04 12/02/2013 -0800, John R. Sowden wrote: For the 'recent documents' menu selection under 'file', it would be nice to: 1) allow us to set the number of recent documents, under tools/options. I know this is not quite what you are asking for, but in the absence of exactly what you want, you may like to try customising the Standard toolbar to display the Load URL command. (Click the down-arrow at the right of the toolbar and select Customize Toolbar... .) This gives a much longer list of recent files. Note that the customisation needs to be made separately for each LibreOffice component that you wish to display this, but the list itself is common to all of them. At 15:01 12/02/2013 -0500, Tim Lungstrom wrote: I remember seeing some packages that allow you to define the number of recent documents are kept in the queue. I never seen the permanent one, ... Earlier versions of (close your eyes if these are dirty words for you) Microsoft Word (at least) had a Work menu which allowed you to create your own list of frequently used documents - which would not evaporate until you wanted them to; later versions of Microsoft Office have dropped this idea but allow you to pin items already on the recent files menu so that they do not drop off. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] irritating problem 4.0
Hi, Le 13/02/2013 07:16, Tim Lloyd a écrit : Today, I updated the FAQ with some GIT information. So I created a new heading1 for GIT with a heading2 underneath. And a few lines of information along the way (in the format text body). When I updated the index, all lines I had typed in were added to the index. Plus a few from the page before and the page after. But not all pages! Have look at those paragraphs that inappropriately go to the index and check their outline level. I guess this level is set to some value other than Text body. In this case, using the Ctrl+M key combination (Format / Default) should set them back to the default Text body level value. Apart from some manual setting, I can't see why this paragraph setting would have changed on its own. HTH, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] irritating problem 4.0
Le 13/02/2013 08:44, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : Have look at those paragraphs that inappropriately go to the index and check their outline level. I guess this level is set to some value other than Text body. This might be caused by the previous paragraph style setting Next style. Check that also. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
