Re: [libreoffice-users] adding / using custom colours to LibreOffice

2017-10-09 Thread Gary Dale 

On 09/10/17 02:20 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Gary,

Gary Dale schrieb:

I'm using 5.4.1.2.0+ on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system.

I volunteer with several organizations, some of whom have standard
colours that I would like to add to the LibreOffice colour palette.
However the formerly available Tools | Options | Colors customization
feature seems to have disappeared.


Yes it was removed to reduce complexity for normal users.



I noticed that the font colour chooser allows you to use custom colours
but not add them to the palette. While usable, it's not a good solution
when you are going to be using the same colours repeatedly.


If you, as single user, need a color repeatedly, then you can add this 
color to your personal palette "Custom". It is not a real palette, but 
part of your personal registrymodifications.xcu. This file holds the 
recent colors too. But a normal user does not need to know these details.




After more googling, I eventually found a way of adding custom colours -
by creating a shape then right-clicking on it and selecting area. This
allows me to add colours to the custom palette (and apparently only the
custom palette - even if I select a different palette, the new colour
ends up in custom).


If you want to maintain "corporate identity" colors, storing them in 
"custom" is wrong anyway. So do not try to find any "tricks".


You should use a *.soc file stored in share/palette for those colors. 
You can add the colors to one of the existing files or make a totally 
new such file.

The file is a simple xml-file and can be edit with any editor.

You only need to add one line per color following the example

Instead of "Black" you write the text, which the user will see.
Instead of 00 you write the code, which you see in the 'Hex' field 
in the Area > Color dialog. If you work in Draw you can use Format > 
Area without any need of a shape.


That way each user, who will use LibreOffice will get these special 
colors automatically.


You need writing rights from the OS to change or add files in 
share/palette.


Kind regards
Regina


I'm frankly dumbfounded by your explanations. You remove a generally 
useful dialogue to reduce complexity for normal users while 
simultaneously maintaining two different dialogues to set colours, each 
of which looks and works differently. Then you suggest that to do 
something that is in the use case of any normal organizational user 
(i.e. just about anyone who uses a word processor), you suggest 
creating/modifying XML files!


I agree that storing organizational (not necessarily corporate) colours 
in "custom" may not always be the best idea, but given their small 
number in any rational organization, creating a separate palette for 
them is arguably also not a good idea. My preference is to just add them 
to the standard palette and let the colour names identify them.


You've already got all the code you need to address the problem 
properly. Writer's code just isn't organized properly. If it was, you 
wouldn't have the two (maybe more - I haven't really looked) dialogues 
doing largely the same job but neither doing it really well.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [OffTopic] Bounce Message Notifications...

2017-10-09 Thread zahra a 
i have this problem and cant understand!

On 10/10/17, James Knott  wrote:
> On 10/09/2017 06:23 PM, Wade Smart wrote:
>> Between OO and Libra I get a bouncing message notification at least once a
>> day.
>> I have gmail so its not as if I can do much about but, anyone have
>> this crazy number
>> of bounced notifications?
>>
>> I filter them out but there sure are a lot.
>>
>>
>
> I also get them.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] [OffTopic] Bounce Message Notifications...

2017-10-09 Thread James Knott 
On 10/09/2017 06:23 PM, Wade Smart wrote:
> Between OO and Libra I get a bouncing message notification at least once a 
> day.
> I have gmail so its not as if I can do much about but, anyone have
> this crazy number
> of bounced notifications?
>
> I filter them out but there sure are a lot.
>
>

I also get them.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] adding / using custom colours to LibreOffice

2017-10-09 Thread Tim-L 



On 10/09/2017 04:21 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Toki,

Toki schrieb:
[..]

Installation instructions differ according to one's specific platform.
(For at least one Linux distro, colour palettes can not be customized,
unless you have support contract with the distro vendor.)


If a distro vendor will prevent using it from the share folder, you 
can put the file into the 'config' folder of each user profile. It is 
still read from there, even though no UI exists to generate such file 
there.


Kind regards
Regina




That is what I do, mostly.  I now prefer to have many smaller dedicated 
palettes instead of a few large ones.
The need for a company-wide palette is a great idea for a specific SOC 
file.


This is the hidden folder within Ubuntu is where I place for the color 
palettes I created.


"/home/timothy/.config/libreoffice/4/user/config"

I know where the system files for LibreOffice, including the .soc files, 
are located, but it is easier to place my color.soc files in the hidden 
".config" folder instead of editing a system folder like this "root 
level" directory/folder “/opt/libreoffice5.3/share/palette”  I would 
rather edit the ".config/libreoffice/" folder over editing the "/opt/" 
one 9 times out to 10 easily.


I have made a few palettes and place them on my "libreoffice-na.us" page.

Here is an edited version of one so you do not have to wade through 
several pages of color text definitions.  I used a palette's SOC file as 
a template for my versions.  There may be an extended "ooo:color-table" 
script, but this XML works fine.  The only thing I have found is that 
using a text editor, or even Writer, Ubuntu seems not to associate the 
resulting "color-palette.soc" file as a "xml" file.  These created 
palettes work fine, since the start and ending lines are "xml" script 
identifiers.


   
   http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
   xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
   xmlns:ooo="http://openoffice.org/2004/office;>

   
   
   
   

   

This edited color palette actually have over 70 orange colors and hues.  
Another is one with brown and wood colors.  I had a hard time to find a 
specific color for specific need - like a good wood brown - for a 
project's image or text color.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [OffTopic] Bounce Message Notifications...

2017-10-09 Thread Wade Smart 
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Toki  wrote:
> On 10/09/2017 10:23 PM, Wade Smart wrote:
>
>> Between OO and Libra I get a bouncing message notification at least once a 
>> day.
>
> Don't worry, on both AOL mail and Yahoo Mail, you'll get double the
> number of bounces that you get on GMail.
>
> A couple of months ago I looked at what was bouncing, and came to the
> following conclusions:
> * Anything bounced by AOL or GMail will be bounced by Yahoo;
> * Roughly three quarters of the messages bounced by GMail, are also
> bounced by AOL;
> * Whatever causes the bounces, ignores DKIM;
>
> jonathon

Alright .. then Ill let that filter do its work.
Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [OffTopic] Bounce Message Notifications...

2017-10-09 Thread Toki 
On 10/09/2017 10:23 PM, Wade Smart wrote:

> Between OO and Libra I get a bouncing message notification at least once a 
> day.

Don't worry, on both AOL mail and Yahoo Mail, you'll get double the
number of bounces that you get on GMail.

A couple of months ago I looked at what was bouncing, and came to the
following conclusions:
* Anything bounced by AOL or GMail will be bounced by Yahoo;
* Roughly three quarters of the messages bounced by GMail, are also
bounced by AOL;
* Whatever causes the bounces, ignores DKIM;

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] adding / using custom colours to LibreOffice

2017-10-09 Thread Toki 
On 10/09/2017 08:21 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

> If a distro vendor will prevent using it from the share folder, you can
> put the file into the 'config' folder of each user profile. It is still

In this specific instance, there is no config folder.

That was the first thing I tried doing.

If I figure out how to change the default palettes, I'll document it on
my blog.



jonathon

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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Calc Insert Note Missing Function

2017-10-09 Thread Joe Conner 

Ubuntu 17.04 64bit LibreOffice Version: 5.4.2.2

Now I have discovered that I cannot any more insert a note to a Calc 
cell. Formerly I could access this with a right click context menu 
INSERT NOTE but the feature is no longer present. To where has it been 
moved?


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[libreoffice-users] [OffTopic] Bounce Message Notifications...

2017-10-09 Thread Wade Smart 
Between OO and Libra I get a bouncing message notification at least once a day.
I have gmail so its not as if I can do much about but, anyone have
this crazy number
of bounced notifications?

I filter them out but there sure are a lot.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing Feature

2017-10-09 Thread Joe Conner 
Unfortunately, that checking or unchecking that box setting has no 
effect whatsoever. Maybe a bug has been introduced in 5.4.2.


Can anyone else confirm this behavior?

Blessings, Joe


On 10/09/2017 01:06 PM, Remy Gauthier wrote:

Hi,

In my version (5..3.6.1), this feature is enabled from:

Tools -> Options -> LibreOffice Calc -> View

then activate "Show references in color".

I hope this helps.

Rémy Gauthier.

Le lundi 09 octobre 2017 à 12:13 -0700, Joe Conner a écrit :

I just upgraded to LibreOffice Version: 5.4.2.2 on my Ubuntu 17.04 64bit
computer. Now I discover that no longer have a feature that I have long
found useful.

Formerly in Calc when I had a formula calculating from a series of cells
when I place the cursor in the entry box just under the tool bars Calc
would place a box around the cells making for quick identification of
those cells.

Now, I have lost that feature. I know that I can use Tools - Detective -
Trace Precedents to work around but it is not nearly as quick and easy.

Did I inadvertently change a toggle or something to turn off the
feature? I would like to get it to behave as formerly.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] adding / using custom colours to LibreOffice

2017-10-09 Thread Regina Henschel 

Hi Toki,

Toki schrieb:
[..]

Installation instructions differ according to one's specific platform.
(For at least one Linux distro, colour palettes can not be customized,
unless you have support contract with the distro vendor.)


If a distro vendor will prevent using it from the share folder, you can 
put the file into the 'config' folder of each user profile. It is still 
read from there, even though no UI exists to generate such file there.


Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing Feature

2017-10-09 Thread Remy Gauthier 
Hi,

In my version (5.3.6.1), this feature is enabled from:

Tools -> Options -> LibreOffice Calc -> View

then activate "Show references in color".

I hope this helps.

Rémy Gauthier.

Le lundi 09 octobre 2017 à 12:13 -0700, Joe Conner a écrit :
> I just upgraded to LibreOffice Version: 5.4.2.2 on my Ubuntu 17.04 64bit 
> computer. Now I discover that no longer have a feature that I have long 
> found useful.
> 
> Formerly in Calc when I had a formula calculating from a series of cells 
> when I place the cursor in the entry box just under the tool bars Calc 
> would place a box around the cells making for quick identification of 
> those cells.
> 
> Now, I have lost that feature. I know that I can use Tools - Detective - 
> Trace Precedents to work around but it is not nearly as quick and easy.
> 
> Did I inadvertently change a toggle or something to turn off the 
> feature? I would like to get it to behave as formerly.
> 
> -- 
> 
> A smile - is a sign of joy.
> A hug - is a sign of love.
> A laugh - is a sign of happiness.
> And a friend like me??
> ...that's just a sign of good taste!!
> 
> Blessings, Joe Conner
> Joshua 24:15 "...as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD."
> 
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Missing Feature

2017-10-09 Thread Joe Conner 
I just upgraded to LibreOffice Version: 5.4.2.2 on my Ubuntu 17.04 64bit 
computer. Now I discover that no longer have a feature that I have long 
found useful.


Formerly in Calc when I had a formula calculating from a series of cells 
when I place the cursor in the entry box just under the tool bars Calc 
would place a box around the cells making for quick identification of 
those cells.


Now, I have lost that feature. I know that I can use Tools - Detective - 
Trace Precedents to work around but it is not nearly as quick and easy.


Did I inadvertently change a toggle or something to turn off the 
feature? I would like to get it to behave as formerly.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] adding / using custom colours to LibreOffice

2017-10-09 Thread Toki 
On 10/09/2017 04:47 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

> I volunteer with several organizations, some of whom have standard
> colours that I would like to add to the LibreOffice colour palette.

For those that insist on creating colour palettes from within LibO:
* Install the _Colour Palette Exporter_ extension;
* Create the desired palette by modifying the font colour of a paragraph
style;
* Export the resulting palette;

Those who prefer to do things the easy way:
* Fire up a text editor;
* Start writing the appropriate xml code;
* Save the palette;

My recommendation is that if organisation branding includes predefined
colours for charts, then the filename has to be standard.soc, otherwise
use Organisation_Name_Branding.soc .

Distribute the palette to the organization.
Include instructions on how to correctly install the palette.

Installation instructions differ according to one's specific platform.
(For at least one Linux distro, colour palettes can not be customized,
unless you have support contract with the distro vendor.)

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] adding / using custom colours to LibreOffice

2017-10-09 Thread Steve Edmonds 

Hi.
There is a bit of a similar discussion regarding table background 
colours and helpful information from Regina here;

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Table-background-colours-in-5-3-td4221285.html
steve

On 10/10/17 05:47, Gary Dale wrote:

I'm using 5.4.1.2.0+ on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system.

I volunteer with several organizations, some of whom have standard 
colours that I would like to add to the LibreOffice colour palette. 
However the formerly available Tools | Options | Colors customization 
feature seems to have disappeared.


I noticed that the font colour chooser allows you to use custom 
colours but not add them to the palette. While usable, it's not a good 
solution when you are going to be using the same colours repeatedly.


After more googling, I eventually found a way of adding custom colours 
- by creating a shape then right-clicking on it and selecting area. 
This allows me to add colours to the custom palette (and apparently 
only the custom palette - even if I select a different palette, the 
new colour ends up in custom).


While this is sufficient for what I want to do, it seems rather arcane 
to bury this useful option in shapes when it clearly can be used for 
anything that has colour. To make matters worse, the font colour | 
custom colour dialogue allows you to define colours using RGB and CMYK 
values while the shape colour dialogue only allows RGB colours (but 
does allow you to save them).


I suggest that the developers should fix this duplication of effort by 
using only a single colour dialogue that combines the best features of 
both existing dialogues. They should also restore this to the Tools | 
Options menu.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] adding / using custom colours to LibreOffice

2017-10-09 Thread Regina Henschel 

Hi Gary,

Gary Dale schrieb:

I'm using 5.4.1.2.0+ on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system.

I volunteer with several organizations, some of whom have standard
colours that I would like to add to the LibreOffice colour palette.
However the formerly available Tools | Options | Colors customization
feature seems to have disappeared.


Yes it was removed to reduce complexity for normal users.



I noticed that the font colour chooser allows you to use custom colours
but not add them to the palette. While usable, it's not a good solution
when you are going to be using the same colours repeatedly.


If you, as single user, need a color repeatedly, then you can add this 
color to your personal palette "Custom". It is not a real palette, but 
part of your personal registrymodifications.xcu. This file holds the 
recent colors too. But a normal user does not need to know these details.




After more googling, I eventually found a way of adding custom colours -
by creating a shape then right-clicking on it and selecting area. This
allows me to add colours to the custom palette (and apparently only the
custom palette - even if I select a different palette, the new colour
ends up in custom).


If you want to maintain "corporate identity" colors, storing them in 
"custom" is wrong anyway. So do not try to find any "tricks".


You should use a *.soc file stored in share/palette for those colors. 
You can add the colors to one of the existing files or make a totally 
new such file.

The file is a simple xml-file and can be edit with any editor.

You only need to add one line per color following the example

Instead of "Black" you write the text, which the user will see.
Instead of 00 you write the code, which you see in the 'Hex' field 
in the Area > Color dialog. If you work in Draw you can use Format > 
Area without any need of a shape.


That way each user, who will use LibreOffice will get these special 
colors automatically.


You need writing rights from the OS to change or add files in share/palette.

Kind regards
Regina



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[libreoffice-users] adding / using custom colours to LibreOffice

2017-10-09 Thread Gary Dale 

I'm using 5.4.1.2.0+ on a Debian/Buster AMD64 system.

I volunteer with several organizations, some of whom have standard 
colours that I would like to add to the LibreOffice colour palette. 
However the formerly available Tools | Options | Colors customization 
feature seems to have disappeared.


I noticed that the font colour chooser allows you to use custom colours 
but not add them to the palette. While usable, it's not a good solution 
when you are going to be using the same colours repeatedly.


After more googling, I eventually found a way of adding custom colours - 
by creating a shape then right-clicking on it and selecting area. This 
allows me to add colours to the custom palette (and apparently only the 
custom palette - even if I select a different palette, the new colour 
ends up in custom).


While this is sufficient for what I want to do, it seems rather arcane 
to bury this useful option in shapes when it clearly can be used for 
anything that has colour. To make matters worse, the font colour | 
custom colour dialogue allows you to define colours using RGB and CMYK 
values while the shape colour dialogue only allows RGB colours (but does 
allow you to save them).


I suggest that the developers should fix this duplication of effort by 
using only a single colour dialogue that combines the best features of 
both existing dialogues. They should also restore this to the Tools | 
Options menu.



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