Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

2023-04-30 Thread Alec McAllister 
This portable freeware does the job:

https://www.azhagi.com/ 

(In case of link problems, that is  https:  followed by  www.azhagi.com  )


It enables you to type text in almost any language (or combination of 
languages) into almost any application. It's harmless and self-contained: it 
doesn't change any settings in the system or in any application. It only 
affects the keyboard, and only when you explicitly turn it on.



The software was originally created to handle languages of the Indian 
subcontinent, but some linguaholic übernerd added keyboard mappings for lots of 
other languages, here:

https://www.azhagi.com/alec.php

(In case of link problems, that is  https:  followed by  
www.azhagi.com/alec.php  )


Without needing to click anything, you can type pretty much all the 
Latin-alphabet languages with a single keyboard layout. (Sic.)

The layout is designed to be easy to remember, so you won't need a crib sheet 
after the first couple of times.

For example, once you've learned how to add an acute accent to a letter, you 
can use the same key-presses to add an acute accent to any letter, in any 
language, that can take an acute accent, e.g.:   á É ń Ś ẃ Ĺ ź ǽ    etc.


Best wishes,

Alec


From: Johnny Rosenberg 
Sent: 30 April 2023 18:02
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

Den sön 30 apr. 2023 kl 19:08 skrev Jonathan Allen <
jonat...@barumtrading.co.uk>:

> Dear Harald,
>
> > I think they changed it to make it easier.
> > >Double-click on a special character will insert it into the document.<
>
> Yes, I read that.  But it doesn't make it easier - in fact it makes
> it much more difficult.  Before I could single click on anything
> between 1-10 (or more) characters in the character map, then click
> 'Insert' and the whole string was dropped neatly into my document.
> Now I have to double click each character (and vowel-point/accent)
> in turn, then re-enter Insert Special Character.  Not a clever choice.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
Another option would be to use something like AutoKey (on Linux) or
AutoHotKey (on Windows) to type those characters for you, or if you use
Linux you can just use the Compose key (a lot of information about that
online).
If you haven't heard of AutoKey or AutoHotKey, they make it possible to
create shortcuts to special characters and whole phrases. For instance you
could create a phrase with the ℃ character and insert it by typing degC or
something. I use both all the time (AutoKey at home and AutoHotKey at work,
since my job computer unfortunately only have Windows), and I find them
extremely useful for a lot of things.

The advantage of using Autokey or AutoHotKey is that you can insert your
special characters and phrases anywhere, not only in LibreOffice.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

2023-04-30 Thread W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof. 
Jonathan -
When you double-click, the character is inserted immediately and you stay in 
the Special Characters dialogue, so you can then just double-click the next 
character(s). When you're done, you click on Cancel to exit from the dialogue. 
At least that's what's happening for me in LO 7.3.2.2.
- Robert


From: Jonathan Allen 
Sent: April 30, 2023 13:07
To: lo.harald.ber...@t-online.de 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

...
> Now I have to double click each character (and vowel-point/accent)
> in turn, then re-enter Insert Special Character.  Not a clever choice.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

2023-04-30 Thread W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof. 
Jonathan -

You can get almost the same behaviour as you were used to by double-clicking on 
each character.

- Robert

From: Jonathan Allen 
Sent: April 30, 2023 12:32
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

Hi,

I have just taken an upgrde (with Linux Mint) from LO 5.something to
7.3.7.2.  Lots of good things, but I'm really upset about the way
Insert Special Characters has changed.  I used to be able to enter
a long string (one or more words) in Hebrew or Greek characters,
with them being compiled in a box below the character set, then hit
'insert' to put the whole thing into my document.  Now, it seems as
though I have to do it one character at a time, which is much more
time-consuming.  If there any way to get the old behaviour?

Jonathan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

2023-04-30 Thread Brad Rogers 
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 11:51:41 -0500
Michael H  wrote:

Hello Michael,

>The lack of control on what gets changed seems to be the undoing of the
>app.

In fairness, it's not always down to the developers of the application
one happens to be using.  Sometimes, it can be as a result of changes in
underlying toolkits and libraries that are being used.  IDK whether that
applies in this instance.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing a row from a spreadsheet

2023-04-30 Thread Alan B 
Ian, if you reply, please reply to users@global.libreoffice.org, not my
email. Thank you.

I created a twelve (12) column spreadsheet, A to L, with two rows in Calc,
then selected A1:L2, then copied and pasted it into Write.

That had the same result as you described, columns disappearing off the
right of the page.

HOWEVER, when I created an empty one (1) row, twelve (12) column table in
Write FIRST and then pasted the Calc selection into it (cursor at R1, C1 of
table in Write) both rows were pasted into the table and the table did not
expand beyond the margins of the page.

If you haven't tried creating a blank, one row table in Write, with the
same number of columns as your source spreadsheet, give that a shot.

Create the table in Write. Only need one row but need the same number of
columns as in your source spreadsheet.

Then, copy the rows and columns in the spreadsheet.

And finally paste into R1, C1 in the Write table.

See if that produces the result you're looking for.

Also, if you wish to have an individual one row table in Write for each
item in the catalog, proceed with the copy/paste as described above. The
resulting table in Write will have one row for each row pasted from Calc.

To separate the rows in Write, put your cursor in any row, then select
Table>Split Table... from the menu. Select the "No heading" option and
click "OK" button. Repeat as many times as you need to break the table into
individual rows.




On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 6:48 AM Ian Graham  wrote:

> Good morning from Wales, UK
>
>
> I am a member of a local Heritage Society which some years ago created a
> digital archive of several hundred photographs.
>
> The archive is indexed in an Excel-type document, which was possibly not
> very skilfully formated at the time. The index comprises 12 columns,
> A>L, in an A4 Landscape layout, but the actual document seems to extend
> rightwards almost to infinity.
>
> I would now like to create new individual ‘slides’, probably as pdfs,
> uniting each image with the information about it. But I have not yet
> worked out the best method by which to import the information from the
> *.ods.
>
>
> One difficulty is that a ‘copy’ of a row from the dbase does not paste
> neatly into a new document – it always seems to spill out to the right.
>
> The other difficulty is choosing the best method of pasting. I have
> tried all the ‘paste special’ options, and none of them seem to offer a
> one-stop-shop route of import.
>
>
> I have tried, for instance, creating a new table of 12 equal columns
> that fits on my new page, with the idea of pasting into it, and then
> sorting out the spacings, but I have not yet even found a way of so
> pasting.
>
> The best method I have come up with so far is simply pasting the copied
> row as unformated text, and then manually inserting the various elements
> into the appropriate cell of a new table; which achieves the desired
> result in the end, but is going to be cumbersome over several hundred
> photos.
>
> Any suggestions as to the most efficient way to proceed will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Ian Graham
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Looking for current LibreOffice Writer tutorials

2023-04-30 Thread Tom 

On 4/30/23 10:50 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Den sön 30 apr. 2023 kl 04:43 skrev Tom :


Hi!  I'm helping an elderly woman start using LibreOffice Writer on a
new laptop she purchased.  The laptop has Windows 11 and she's not
interested in paying for MS Office.  She barely knows how to use a word
processor, so I'm interested in finding some recent/current tutorials to
help her learn the basics.  She's running version 7.5.2.2.


If she barely knows how to use Word, then I would guess that running 7.4
would be a better idea, since 7.5 is still the unstable version, maybe with
some not yet discovered bugs.



That's a great point!   When I get the chance, I'll replace version 7.5 
with version 7.4.  :)



Peace...

Tom


   I found a
basic introductory video on YouTube, but it was posted back in 2018.  I
found another tutorial, an "ultimate" tutorial, but it seemed focused on
a task she wouldn't be doing so I think it would overwhelm her.

Does anyone know of any good, recent/current tutorials a complete newbie
could use?

Thanks in advance!

Peace...

Tom


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Looking for current LibreOffice Writer tutorials

2023-04-30 Thread Johnny Rosenberg 
Den sön 30 apr. 2023 kl 20:04 skrev Helmut Leininger :

> Sorry for answering in German before. AbiWord is not any more maintained
> and the Windows version is not any more available from the homepage.
>
> It's OK, at least for me. Gmail translated it for me, and I actually
studied German at school about 35 years ago, and I still remember some of
it, just a little.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> Helmut Leininger
>
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
>
> Am 30. April 2023 19:50:15 MESZ schrieb Johnny Rosenberg <
> gurus.knu...@gmail.com>:
> >Den sön 30 apr. 2023 kl 04:43 skrev Tom :
> >
> >> Hi!  I'm helping an elderly woman start using LibreOffice Writer on a
> >> new laptop she purchased.  The laptop has Windows 11 and she's not
> >> interested in paying for MS Office.  She barely knows how to use a word
> >> processor, so I'm interested in finding some recent/current tutorials to
> >> help her learn the basics.  She's running version 7.5.2.2.
> >
> >
> >If she barely knows how to use Word, then I would guess that running 7.4
> >would be a better idea, since 7.5 is still the unstable version, maybe
> with
> >some not yet discovered bugs.
> >
> >As someone pointed out that LibreOffice Writer could be a bit too complex,
> >I think I should mention a simpler open source word processor: AbiWord.
> >
> >
> >
> >Kind regards
> >
> >Johnny Rosenberg
> >
> >
> >>   I found a
> >> basic introductory video on YouTube, but it was posted back in 2018.  I
> >> found another tutorial, an "ultimate" tutorial, but it seemed focused on
> >> a task she wouldn't be doing so I think it would overwhelm her.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of any good, recent/current tutorials a complete newbie
> >> could use?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >>
> >> Peace...
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Looking for current LibreOffice Writer tutorials

2023-04-30 Thread Johnny Rosenberg 
Den sön 30 apr. 2023 kl 20:00 skrev Helmut Leininger :

> AbiWord wird nicht mehr gepflegt und die Windows Version nicht mehr auf
> der Homepage von Abisource angeboten.
>

Really? I didn't know that. Then I guess I should take my recommendation
back. I didn't use AbiWord myself for years, since I need many of the
advanced features that it lacks, so I just assumed it was still maintained.
Sorry for that.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg



>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> Helmut Leininger
>
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
>
> Am 30. April 2023 19:50:15 MESZ schrieb Johnny Rosenberg <
> gurus.knu...@gmail.com>:
> >Den sön 30 apr. 2023 kl 04:43 skrev Tom :
> >
> >> Hi!  I'm helping an elderly woman start using LibreOffice Writer on a
> >> new laptop she purchased.  The laptop has Windows 11 and she's not
> >> interested in paying for MS Office.  She barely knows how to use a word
> >> processor, so I'm interested in finding some recent/current tutorials to
> >> help her learn the basics.  She's running version 7.5.2.2.
> >
> >
> >If she barely knows how to use Word, then I would guess that running 7.4
> >would be a better idea, since 7.5 is still the unstable version, maybe
> with
> >some not yet discovered bugs.
> >
> >As someone pointed out that LibreOffice Writer could be a bit too complex,
> >I think I should mention a simpler open source word processor: AbiWord.
> >
> >
> >
> >Kind regards
> >
> >Johnny Rosenberg
> >
> >
> >>   I found a
> >> basic introductory video on YouTube, but it was posted back in 2018.  I
> >> found another tutorial, an "ultimate" tutorial, but it seemed focused on
> >> a task she wouldn't be doing so I think it would overwhelm her.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of any good, recent/current tutorials a complete newbie
> >> could use?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >>
> >> Peace...
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Looking for current LibreOffice Writer tutorials

2023-04-30 Thread Helmut Leininger 
Sorry for answering in German before. AbiWord is not any more maintained and 
the Windows version is not any more available from the homepage.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen 
Helmut Leininger 

Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.

Am 30. April 2023 19:50:15 MESZ schrieb Johnny Rosenberg 
:
>Den sön 30 apr. 2023 kl 04:43 skrev Tom :
>
>> Hi!  I'm helping an elderly woman start using LibreOffice Writer on a
>> new laptop she purchased.  The laptop has Windows 11 and she's not
>> interested in paying for MS Office.  She barely knows how to use a word
>> processor, so I'm interested in finding some recent/current tutorials to
>> help her learn the basics.  She's running version 7.5.2.2.
>
>
>If she barely knows how to use Word, then I would guess that running 7.4
>would be a better idea, since 7.5 is still the unstable version, maybe with
>some not yet discovered bugs.
>
>As someone pointed out that LibreOffice Writer could be a bit too complex,
>I think I should mention a simpler open source word processor: AbiWord.
>
>
>
>Kind regards
>
>Johnny Rosenberg
>
>
>>   I found a
>> basic introductory video on YouTube, but it was posted back in 2018.  I
>> found another tutorial, an "ultimate" tutorial, but it seemed focused on
>> a task she wouldn't be doing so I think it would overwhelm her.
>>
>> Does anyone know of any good, recent/current tutorials a complete newbie
>> could use?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Peace...
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

2023-04-30 Thread Johnny Rosenberg 
Den sön 30 apr. 2023 kl 19:08 skrev Jonathan Allen <
jonat...@barumtrading.co.uk>:

> Dear Harald,
>
> > I think they changed it to make it easier.
> > >Double-click on a special character will insert it into the document.<
>
> Yes, I read that.  But it doesn't make it easier - in fact it makes
> it much more difficult.  Before I could single click on anything
> between 1-10 (or more) characters in the character map, then click
> 'Insert' and the whole string was dropped neatly into my document.
> Now I have to double click each character (and vowel-point/accent)
> in turn, then re-enter Insert Special Character.  Not a clever choice.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
Another option would be to use something like AutoKey (on Linux) or
AutoHotKey (on Windows) to type those characters for you, or if you use
Linux you can just use the Compose key (a lot of information about that
online).
If you haven't heard of AutoKey or AutoHotKey, they make it possible to
create shortcuts to special characters and whole phrases. For instance you
could create a phrase with the ℃ character and insert it by typing degC or
something. I use both all the time (AutoKey at home and AutoHotKey at work,
since my job computer unfortunately only have Windows), and I find them
extremely useful for a lot of things.

The advantage of using Autokey or AutoHotKey is that you can insert your
special characters and phrases anywhere, not only in LibreOffice.



Kind regards

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Looking for current LibreOffice Writer tutorials

2023-04-30 Thread Helmut Leininger 
AbiWord wird nicht mehr gepflegt und die Windows Version nicht mehr auf der 
Homepage von Abisource angeboten.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen 
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Am 30. April 2023 19:50:15 MESZ schrieb Johnny Rosenberg 
:
>Den sön 30 apr. 2023 kl 04:43 skrev Tom :
>
>> Hi!  I'm helping an elderly woman start using LibreOffice Writer on a
>> new laptop she purchased.  The laptop has Windows 11 and she's not
>> interested in paying for MS Office.  She barely knows how to use a word
>> processor, so I'm interested in finding some recent/current tutorials to
>> help her learn the basics.  She's running version 7.5.2.2.
>
>
>If she barely knows how to use Word, then I would guess that running 7.4
>would be a better idea, since 7.5 is still the unstable version, maybe with
>some not yet discovered bugs.
>
>As someone pointed out that LibreOffice Writer could be a bit too complex,
>I think I should mention a simpler open source word processor: AbiWord.
>
>
>
>Kind regards
>
>Johnny Rosenberg
>
>
>>   I found a
>> basic introductory video on YouTube, but it was posted back in 2018.  I
>> found another tutorial, an "ultimate" tutorial, but it seemed focused on
>> a task she wouldn't be doing so I think it would overwhelm her.
>>
>> Does anyone know of any good, recent/current tutorials a complete newbie
>> could use?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Peace...
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Looking for current LibreOffice Writer tutorials

2023-04-30 Thread Johnny Rosenberg 
Den sön 30 apr. 2023 kl 04:43 skrev Tom :

> Hi!  I'm helping an elderly woman start using LibreOffice Writer on a
> new laptop she purchased.  The laptop has Windows 11 and she's not
> interested in paying for MS Office.  She barely knows how to use a word
> processor, so I'm interested in finding some recent/current tutorials to
> help her learn the basics.  She's running version 7.5.2.2.


If she barely knows how to use Word, then I would guess that running 7.4
would be a better idea, since 7.5 is still the unstable version, maybe with
some not yet discovered bugs.

As someone pointed out that LibreOffice Writer could be a bit too complex,
I think I should mention a simpler open source word processor: AbiWord.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


>   I found a
> basic introductory video on YouTube, but it was posted back in 2018.  I
> found another tutorial, an "ultimate" tutorial, but it seemed focused on
> a task she wouldn't be doing so I think it would overwhelm her.
>
> Does anyone know of any good, recent/current tutorials a complete newbie
> could use?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Peace...
>
> Tom
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

2023-04-30 Thread Jonathan Allen 
Dear Harald,

> I think they changed it to make it easier.
> >Double-click on a special character will insert it into the document.<

Yes, I read that.  But it doesn't make it easier - in fact it makes
it much more difficult.  Before I could single click on anything
between 1-10 (or more) characters in the character map, then click
'Insert' and the whole string was dropped neatly into my document.
Now I have to double click each character (and vowel-point/accent)
in turn, then re-enter Insert Special Character.  Not a clever choice.

Jonathan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

2023-04-30 Thread LO . Harald . Berger 

You are welcome here:
https://www.libreoffice.org/community/get-involved/

Am 30.04.2023 um 18:51 schrieb Michael H:

What determines whether a change like this is a good idea?

I mean, I see over time lots of discussion about implemented changes that
seem to have huge retrograde effects on the ability to create, and only
make sense in the terms of UI or ease of maintenance. (Or if you want to go
a step further, only makes sense for spies from a competing product to
insert to break the user base I don't mean this specific change... just
the area of "why did it work before and now doesn't?" changes that are
intentionally created.)

Is there any forward looking consideration to these discussions that
complain about already implemented changes being so awful? Is anyone doing
a learning check on successful changes that generate these kind of
complaints?

The lack of control on what gets changed seems to be the undoing of the
app.

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 11:41 AM  wrote:


Hi Jonathan,

I think they changed it to make it easier.
  >Double-click on a special character will insert it into the document.<

See also:
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-GB/text/shared/01/0410.html

Kind regards
Harald

Am 30.04.2023 um 18:32 schrieb Jonathan Allen:

Hi,

I have just taken an upgrde (with Linux Mint) from LO 5.something to
7.3.7.2.  Lots of good things, but I'm really upset about the way
Insert Special Characters has changed.  I used to be able to enter
a long string (one or more words) in Hebrew or Greek characters,
with them being compiled in a box below the character set, then hit
'insert' to put the whole thing into my document.  Now, it seems as
though I have to do it one character at a time, which is much more
time-consuming.  If there any way to get the old behaviour?

Jonathan



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

2023-04-30 Thread Michael H 
What determines whether a change like this is a good idea?

I mean, I see over time lots of discussion about implemented changes that
seem to have huge retrograde effects on the ability to create, and only
make sense in the terms of UI or ease of maintenance. (Or if you want to go
a step further, only makes sense for spies from a competing product to
insert to break the user base I don't mean this specific change... just
the area of "why did it work before and now doesn't?" changes that are
intentionally created.)

Is there any forward looking consideration to these discussions that
complain about already implemented changes being so awful? Is anyone doing
a learning check on successful changes that generate these kind of
complaints?

The lack of control on what gets changed seems to be the undoing of the
app.

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 11:41 AM  wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> I think they changed it to make it easier.
>  >Double-click on a special character will insert it into the document.<
>
> See also:
> https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-GB/text/shared/01/0410.html
>
> Kind regards
> Harald
>
> Am 30.04.2023 um 18:32 schrieb Jonathan Allen:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have just taken an upgrde (with Linux Mint) from LO 5.something to
> > 7.3.7.2.  Lots of good things, but I'm really upset about the way
> > Insert Special Characters has changed.  I used to be able to enter
> > a long string (one or more words) in Hebrew or Greek characters,
> > with them being compiled in a box below the character set, then hit
> > 'insert' to put the whole thing into my document.  Now, it seems as
> > though I have to do it one character at a time, which is much more
> > time-consuming.  If there any way to get the old behaviour?
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

2023-04-30 Thread LO . Harald . Berger 

Hi Jonathan,

I think they changed it to make it easier.
>Double-click on a special character will insert it into the document.<

See also:
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-GB/text/shared/01/0410.html

Kind regards
Harald

Am 30.04.2023 um 18:32 schrieb Jonathan Allen:

Hi,

I have just taken an upgrde (with Linux Mint) from LO 5.something to
7.3.7.2.  Lots of good things, but I'm really upset about the way
Insert Special Characters has changed.  I used to be able to enter
a long string (one or more words) in Hebrew or Greek characters,
with them being compiled in a box below the character set, then hit
'insert' to put the whole thing into my document.  Now, it seems as
though I have to do it one character at a time, which is much more
time-consuming.  If there any way to get the old behaviour?

Jonathan




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[libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

2023-04-30 Thread Jonathan Allen 
Hi,

I have just taken an upgrde (with Linux Mint) from LO 5.something to
7.3.7.2.  Lots of good things, but I'm really upset about the way
Insert Special Characters has changed.  I used to be able to enter
a long string (one or more words) in Hebrew or Greek characters,
with them being compiled in a box below the character set, then hit
'insert' to put the whole thing into my document.  Now, it seems as
though I have to do it one character at a time, which is much more
time-consuming.  If there any way to get the old behaviour?

Jonathan

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Re: AW: [libreoffice-users] Looking for current LibreOffice Writer tutorials

2023-04-30 Thread Tom 
Hi!  Thanks for the reply and for the link!  Those PDF guides should be 
great, since we can print them out.


Thanks!

Peace...

Tom

On 4/29/23 11:12 PM, susanne.mohn...@kiel-pries.de wrote:

Hi Tom,

Have a look here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications


Greetings
Susanne



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Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. April 2023 04:42
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Hi!  I'm helping an elderly woman start using LibreOffice Writer on a new laptop she 
purchased.  The laptop has Windows 11 and she's not interested in paying for MS Office.  
She barely knows how to use a word processor, so I'm interested in finding some 
recent/current tutorials to help her learn the basics.  She's running version 7.5.2.2.  I 
found a basic introductory video on YouTube, but it was posted back in 2018.  I found 
another tutorial, an "ultimate" tutorial, but it seemed focused on a task she 
wouldn't be doing so I think it would overwhelm her.

Does anyone know of any good, recent/current tutorials a complete newbie could 
use?

Thanks in advance!

Peace...

Tom


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Looking for current LibreOffice Writer tutorials

2023-04-30 Thread Tom 
Hi!  Thanks for the reply!  Your point is well taken and I'll definitely 
see if something like Wordpad could be of use to her. Interestingly, she 
has many MS Works files that Writer can open. So if she finds Wordpad is 
easier to grasp, I can convert those MS Works files into something 
Wordpad can open.


Thanks for the feedback and insight! :)

Peace...

Tom

On 4/30/23 12:27 AM, lo.harald.ber...@t-online.de wrote:

Hi Tom,

I know from my own experience with my father (it's been a few years) 
that it's difficult to train older people who haven't dealt with word 
processing before. My observation was that my father used the word 
processor like a typewriter.

A complex text program could be overwhelming here.
A simpler program (e.g. Wordpad, integrated in Windows) could be more 
effective.

Sorry for this answer. I would have loved to recommend LibreOffice.

Kind regards
Harald

Am 30.04.2023 um 04:41 schrieb Tom:
Hi! I'm helping an elderly woman start using LibreOffice Writer on a 
new laptop she purchased.  The laptop has Windows 11 and she's not 
interested in paying for MS Office.  She barely knows how to use a 
word processor, so I'm interested in finding some recent/current 
tutorials to help her learn the basics.  She's running version 
7.5.2.2.  I found a basic introductory video on YouTube, but it was 
posted back in 2018.  I found another tutorial, an "ultimate" 
tutorial, but it seemed focused on a task she wouldn't be doing so I 
think it would overwhelm her.


Does anyone know of any good, recent/current tutorials a complete 
newbie could use?


Thanks in advance!

Peace...

Tom







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Looking for current LibreOffice Writer tutorials

2023-04-30 Thread LO . Harald . Berger 

Hi Tom,

I know from my own experience with my father (it's been a few years) 
that it's difficult to train older people who haven't dealt with word 
processing before. My observation was that my father used the word 
processor like a typewriter.

A complex text program could be overwhelming here.
A simpler program (e.g. Wordpad, integrated in Windows) could be more 
effective.

Sorry for this answer. I would have loved to recommend LibreOffice.

Kind regards
Harald

Am 30.04.2023 um 04:41 schrieb Tom:
Hi! I'm helping an elderly woman start using LibreOffice Writer on a 
new laptop she purchased.  The laptop has Windows 11 and she's not 
interested in paying for MS Office.  She barely knows how to use a 
word processor, so I'm interested in finding some recent/current 
tutorials to help her learn the basics.  She's running version 
7.5.2.2.  I found a basic introductory video on YouTube, but it was 
posted back in 2018.  I found another tutorial, an "ultimate" 
tutorial, but it seemed focused on a task she wouldn't be doing so I 
think it would overwhelm her.


Does anyone know of any good, recent/current tutorials a complete 
newbie could use?


Thanks in advance!

Peace...

Tom





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AW: [libreoffice-users] Looking for current LibreOffice Writer tutorials

2023-04-30 Thread susanne.mohn-lo 
Hi Tom, 

Have a look here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications


Greetings
Susanne



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Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. April 2023 04:42
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Hi!  I'm helping an elderly woman start using LibreOffice Writer on a new 
laptop she purchased.  The laptop has Windows 11 and she's not interested in 
paying for MS Office.  She barely knows how to use a word processor, so I'm 
interested in finding some recent/current tutorials to help her learn the 
basics.  She's running version 7.5.2.2.  I found a basic introductory video on 
YouTube, but it was posted back in 2018.  I found another tutorial, an 
"ultimate" tutorial, but it seemed focused on a task she wouldn't be doing so I 
think it would overwhelm her.

Does anyone know of any good, recent/current tutorials a complete newbie could 
use?

Thanks in advance!

Peace...

Tom


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