[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-07 Thread NoOp
On 08/06/2014 10:01 AM, Florian Reisinger wrote:
 Hi Tom,
 
 If we do not find the bugs in the fresh version, they won't be resolved until 
 the rename to Stable/Still. If less use Fresh, the quality of the next stable 
 will be lower Does this help?

No.  Basically what you and Sophie are saying is that 'we fully expect
new/any user to download and use the Fresh branch by default so that
LO (dev?) can find an resolve bugs in the 'new  improved  added
feature' version'. That's just crazy talk.

I am somewhat astounded as I hear Charles complaining about funding
(rightly so, that's his job), users complaining about lack of bug fixes
w/dev's LO countering with 'we only have a certain amount of resources 
have to prioritise' etc., etc. So why even have two branches to begin with?

The Fresh/Still nonsense is just that - nonsense. Here is a link to the
internet archive from LO Download in 2013 Dec 31:
https://web.archive.org/web/20131231021742/http://www.libreoffice.org/download

On that page there is no Fresh, Stable, Still et al; there is only
download defaulting to 4.1.4. and minor link options to change to 4.0 or
'Pre-releases' 4.2. That download page makes complete sense. Why on
earth the private marketing list change to the current nonsense?

@TDF: Please just stop. Go back to the download page of December 2013 
keep it simple.
  IMO you should just drop the Still branch and concentrate your dev
efforts on one *single* user release.  The next time that I (as a user)
hear that you've not enough resources to address a bug report I'll have
to ask: so, how many devs are working on 'Fresh' v 'Still' v 'Daily' v
'Trunk' v EOL, etc? Can you not fix the bug because these folks are
spread so thin across the various branches that they can't properly
concentrate on a baseline release fix?

@Sophie/Florian: The admission that 'Fresh' is the default so that bugs
will be identified earlier is, IMO, nuts (other words come to mind, but
I'll try to keep this civilized). 'Hello World - take our RC (X.Y.0) and
use it by default so that we can debug it' is not a good thing to
announce/promote here or elsewhere.

@Charles: you keep asking for users on in this thread to suggest a new
name (Now: if you have ideas for new names, etc. you are welcome to
contribute to our marketing team.) - no name is necessary, nor should it
be necessary for users on this list to need to subscribe to the
marketing list to voice their concerns. You are TDF - instead invite the
private marketing list members to participate in this thread, this is
afterall a user  user support concern. BTW: for those that may want to
do this anyway, just how does one gain access to this private marketing
list that Sophie spoke of? How about providing a link to a transcript
of the private marketing list contents so that others on this open
source project can review?

Bottom line is that I (and others) disagree with the private marketing
list decision to go with the existing 'Fresh/Still/whatever' download
page(s). Please consider simply rolling back to the Dec 2013 model.








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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice - Base...

2014-08-06 Thread NoOp
On 08/05/2014 11:08 PM, David Love wrote:
 Using LinuxMint v17.0 Qiana qith the MATE DE.
 
 Have followed with interest the recent discussins on Base and have decided
 to try and learn how to use it, using PostGreSQL as the backend.  But -
 and there is always one of those :-) - how many of the multitude of
 postgrsql files in Synaptic do I need to install, please.
 
 David
 

These might be of help:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/18554/how-to-connect-base-to-to-postgresql/
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+faq/2155






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[libreoffice-users] Re: the release 4.3 in PPA launchpad

2014-08-05 Thread NoOp
On 08/03/2014 03:27 AM, Lera Goncharuk wrote:
 В письме от 2 августа 2014 09:57:15 пользователь Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
 написал:
 On 08/02/2014 06:25 AM, Lera Goncharuk wrote:
  Hi,
  The setup from PPA is deemed more important in Ubuntu user community 
 than
  setup from *.deb files. A lot of people have already gotten used to setup
  LibreOffice from PPA
  https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa . But release 4.3
  is not available over there up to now. This brings up the question: Will
  new release be uploaded? And, when it can be expected? As far as I know,
  Rico Tzschichholz is moderator of the PPA in launchpad.net. Thank you.
 
 I had the PPA setup, but I removed it.  I prefer to decide which version
 of LO it have installed.  PPAs, like Repositories, seems to make me feel
 that I am not in control of which version I use. I kept getting the
 message that I need to update/upgrade to a different version with the
 PPAs and Repositories seem to, most of the time, remove the version I am
 using and install an earlier one.
 
 Now that I am not upgrading my desktop from Linux Mint 16 to 17, due to
 a dependency issue that causes two printers not to produce the proper
 coloring when printing photos and image, I am not getting an updates
 anymore.  So I do not have that problem.
 
 For now, I would rather install the exact version of LO via the terminal
 than use a PPA.  That is just my opinion.  For many, it is more
 convenient for the PPAs to do the work for them.  So, when I decide to
 go from 4.2.5 to 4.3.x, I will install it myself.  I have not tested
 4.3.0.x on any system.  I prefer to test it out on a system that is not
 my production and default one till the version is tested on a Win7
 and/or Ubuntu-based boot of my laptop.
 
 In my opinion, PPA gives more freedom to install and upgrade, and not only 
 makes installation easier in the system. This can be viewed in the direction 
 apt-get, aptitude and Sinaptic for Deb-based OS. There are excellent articles 
 on their use that enables having the maximum choice in their package system

Congrats to the LibbreOffice Packaging team... however the average
user on this list should *read*  and understand the full contents of the
'PPA description' prior to adding to their sources.list. Examples:

quote
PPA description

LibreOffice test builds and backports
...
Most of the packages in this PPA have only experienced minor testing --
in fact it is the place to enable a wider audience to test packages
before they are published into the distro proper. In general, this PPA
is _not_ for the average user to install without a closer look (if it
would be, its packages would be in the main repositories). OTOH, it is
_way_ _better_ to use packages from this PPA than using the *.deb files
that The Document Foundation provides upstream, which are intentionally
build against a very old baseline for maximum compatibility. So, _if_
you want to be on the bleeding edge, do it here, not with upstream *.debs.
/quote

Also be aware that if you are using Ubuntu 12.04.x (Precise) the PPA
contains a slew of additional packages which may, or may not, affect the
standard released versions of those packages on your existing system.

Sample:

accessodf   0.1-4ubuntu1~precise1   Rico Tzschichholz (2014-04-05)
boost1.54   1.54.0-2ubuntu3~precise1Rico Tzschichholz (2014-02-01)
clucene-core2.3.3.4-2~precise1  Rico Tzschichholz (2012-09-01)
dh-exec 0.12~precise1   Rico Tzschichholz (2014-02-01)
dh-python   1.20140128-1ubuntu8~ctools1 Scott Moser (3 hours ago)
doxygen 1.8.7-2~precise1Rico Tzschichholz (3 hours ago)
glew1.10.0-3~precise1   Rico Tzschichholz (3 hours ago)
graphite2   1.2.4-1ubuntu1~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2014-02-01)

Disclaimer: I've nothing against using the PPA - I have not as I install
the .deb packages directly from LO instead.

 management. However, this topic is not for this list, but for a discussion in 
 an user community of particular OS.

You've brought up the question regarding the PPA here instead of asking at:

For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact
LibreOffice Packaging.
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice
  https://answers.launchpad.net/~libreoffice
Questions for LibreOffice Packaging
“LibreOffice Packaging” team
Questions

So I think it worthwhile to point out the PPA (Personal Package Archive)
'heads-up' here.


 
 Meanwhile, LO 4.3 realise is in the PPA now 
 https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-4-3 
 
 Thanks!
 



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[libreoffice-users] [ODF 1.2 compatibility] Re: UK Government adopts Open Document Format

2014-08-05 Thread NoOp
On 08/04/2014 01:21 AM, Andrew Beverley wrote:
 Following on from previous threads, this is good news for LibreOffice:
 
 Government documents will use what are known as open standards for
 document formats. Word processor files will be saved with “.odt”
 suffixes, rather than “.doc”.
 
 https://gds.blog.gov.uk/2014/07/22/making-things-open-making-things-better/
 
 
 

Wow! Excellent stuff. Now for an LO user specific question...

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/open-standards-for-government/sharing-or-collaborating-with-government-documents
states that ODF 1.2 is prefered and will be used ( also see:
http://standards.data.gov.uk/meeting/technical-standards-panel-meeting-17-march-2014
). So LO 4.1 default is set to ODF 1.2 Extended (recommened), however
there are these ODF 1.2 options to choose from
(Tools|Options|Load/Save|General[Default file format and ODF settings]):

ODF 1.2
ODF 1.2 Extended (compat mode)
ODF 1.2 Extended (recommened)

Does anyone know:
1. What the difference is between 'ODF 1.2 Extended (compat mode)' and
'ODF 1.2 Extended (recommened)'?
2. If using 'ODF 1.2 Extended (recommened)' will cause issues with the
UK Gov 'ODF 1.2'?

Where is Dennis E. Hamilton when you need him? :-)
http://orcmid.com/blog/2010/02/worst-nightmare-opendocument-format.asp


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-07-31 Thread NoOp
On 07/31/2014 03:26 AM, Pedro wrote:
 The problem is that it is difficult to find a word that explains that one
 version is new (with new features/bugs/regressions) and the other one has
 been patched so that new features are already stable.
 
 If you call Stable to the patched branch (and calling it Patched doesn't
 sound very nice either) seems to imply that the other branch (now called
 Fresh) isn't stable in the sense that it will crash and be unusable...
 
 There was a proposal to call the (previously named Stable and now named
 Still) branch as Mature. But since that word is currently associated with
 some sexual preference/deviation, it was dropped in favor of Still.

I search the discuss list to see if I could find where this proposal
took place, but failed to find anything. The only relevent post I found
was the one you made in 2012:
http://go.mail-archive.com/UAlqVfatDP8YuwrKaNaUGa3nEbo=
(Which version to get?)
So if you can kindly point me to the correct list to view the proposal 
discussion I'd be grateful.

BTW: the download page is showing:

Available Versions

LibreOffice is available in the following released versions:

4.1.6
4.2.5
4.3.0

And of course, 4.1.6 is EOL:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#4.1_release

So perhaps https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54408
(Obsolete DOWNLOAD recommendations 3.5.5 and 3.6.0) should be always
open and changed to Obsolete DOWNLOAD recommendations).

 
 It is easy to criticize and find problems, but it is more difficult to find
 a nice word that everyone accepts...

Perhaps even more so when there are monthly point releases and 6 month
major release cycles.

 
 Do you have a better suggestion?

Yes. Keep 'Stable' for the moment, or return to 'Recommended' for 4.2
and point out why on the download page as before.  4.3 is by definition
for 'Early Adopters'
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOReleaseLifecycle.png and
should not IMO be the default on the download button.

 
 (For the record, I'm not a member of TDF or work for it and had no
 contribution to this decision)

:-)



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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-07-31 Thread NoOp
On 07/31/2014 03:35 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
...
 
 Doubtless such discussion is more effective on the Discussion mailing
 list.  On this mailing list we just have to go along with whatever has
 been decided, or to use our own words to make it clearer what is meant.

Actually it is pertinent to *this* mailing list as this is where support
(or facsimile thereof) lives. New users come to this list daily and if
the download page and version names keep changing, assisting users on
this list becomes increasingly more difficult.



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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Still?

2014-07-30 Thread NoOp
While we're on 'nitpicking'...

OK I give... the download page/link is confusing enough with the
'Download' link going directly to
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ 'LibreOffice
Fresh', but now I see that 'LibreOffice Stable' has changed to
'LibreOffice Still' http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-still/
what the heck is this all about? What next, LO Stale?

list: what version and OS are you using?
user: still have Windows 8 installed
list: you have what still installed?
user: still Windows
list: still Windows what?
user: still Windows 8
list: have you tried fresh?
user: say what?
list: try fresh
user: I still don't understand
list: install fresh
user: OK I did a fresh install, but still doesn't work










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[libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-29 Thread NoOp
On 07/28/2014 05:20 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Le 27.07.2014 23:46, Urmas a écrit :
 Charles-H. Schulz:
 
 On this list people call LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my 
 founder's hat here- never called LibreOffice LO.
 
 Right, you have fixed all the bugs, got a functional parity with
 Microsoft Word 2.0, and have a chance to bitch about the acronym.
 Cheers.
 
 Absolutely, I do have that chance. Only an absolute moron who hides his 
 or her own name behind pseudos like you to insult people can think that 
 a software can have all of its bugs fixed. As for the feature parity 
 with Word 2.0, we have obviously passed that stage before OpenOffice.org 
 1.0; and if it was so easy, if it is that easy, why don't you go start 
 your own office suite and leave everyone else alone? What pleasure do 
 you take out of insulting people? Are you that much of a pervert, are 
 you that much lonely and screwed up that you can spend that much time 
 around here bitching against the software and the people around it? How 
 about looking for a solution to your own problems, to the very fact that 
 you are in such pain and misery that you use a pseudo to go around and 
 insult people online? Your life must be a terrible experience and you 
 have better to do than lingering around here, so STFU.
 
 Charles.
 

Pseudonyms aren't evil  have been discussed ad nauseam previously...
(NoOp / Gary Lee)

Might I suggest reviewing:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
too bad that when this was discussed over on the discuss list, that this
part of the Mozilla Posting Guidelines wasn't included (it was suggested):

https://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html
Be civil.

No personal attacks. Do not feel compelled to defend your honor in
public. Posts containing personal attacks may be removed from the news
server.

Regarding LO - the acronym has been in the wild for quite some time:

http://download.cnet.com/LibreOffice/3000-18483_4-75337651.html
Editors' review

by: Amy Watson on August 09, 2011

Summary

After Apache OpenOffice (AOO) was crashing almost constantly I began
searching for a new free office suite. Once I started using LibreOffice
(LO) crashes were a thing of the past. LO is more stable than AOO and
saves projects to Microsoft formats better than AOO. LO uses the odf
format as native but will handle a multitude of other formats. If you
have an older MS Office document that MS Office will no longer open you
will find LO will probably open it fine. Power users will need to
install JRE. The vast majority of people will not need JRE. 

http://www.taming-libreoffice.com/2013/06/new-books-libreoffice-4-0-writer-guide-lo-3-6-base-handbook/
(New books: LibreOffice 4.0 Writer Guide  LO 3.6 Base Handbook)

https://www.google.com/#q=libreoffice+++%22LO%22start=10

etc., etc.

Might I suggest reviewing:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette

Too bad that this part of the referenced Mozilla Posting Guidelines
wasn't included (it was suggested):

https://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html
Be civil.

No personal attacks. Do not feel compelled to defend your honor in
public. Posts containing personal attacks may be removed from the news
server.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: [MariaDB Announce] MariaDB Galera Cluster 10.0.12 GA and MariaDB 10.1.0 Alpha now available

2014-07-04 Thread NoOp
On 07/04/2014 12:37 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 There are a few reasons;
 *  Base needs an external back-end but most new users wont be aware of that

Interesting. I never knew that Base needs an external back-end...
Perhaps you can get the documentation folks to add that to the help
files and the Base docs:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Handbook

Chapter 2 page 22:
New database using the internal HSQL engine
If a database with multiple users is not planned, or the user wishes to
gain some initial experience with a database, the internal database
engine will suffice. It is possible at some later stage to
transfer the database to an external HSQLDB environment, where multiple
users can have concurrent access to the database on the HSQLDB server.
This is described in the Appendix to this Handbook.

 *  MariaDb was set-up for much the same reasons as LibreOffice and could be
 considered a sister-project worthy of support

So? There are many projects that are forks of their base code. If they
are indeed a sister-project then we should see regular posts and
contributions by MariaDB folks related to LO.

https://mariadb.com/search/node/libreoffice
Your search yielded no results

 *  Some distros have already moved from MySql to MariaDb

OK, how about we auto connect all of the distro announcements to this
list as well? Would it be appropriate to post the ZDNet Shuttleworth
says Ubuntu is sticking with MySQL?

 
 This 'spam' is less than 1/month and there have been people on this list
 who have appreciated getting them.

Then perhaps you could instead point them to:
announce mailing list
annou...@mariadb.org
https://lists.askmonty.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/announce

I've certainly nothing against MariaDB, and yes I realise the benefits
of connecting to an external database such as MariaDB.
 Had the announcement has something, anything, in it related to
LibreOffice (e.g. information regarding  then I would have appreciated
the information. However I do think that sending MariaDB announcements,
particularly those that have nothing to do with LibreOffice, to this
list is spam.

Note: Posting the MySQL for Excel 1.3.1 RC has been released (July 2)
http://lists.mysql.com/announce/924 might have been more beneficial IMO.
At least that relates to something that may directly affect LO.

...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Bug check - 4.2.4, editing Input fields is broken?

2014-07-04 Thread NoOp
On 07/04/2014 05:11 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 7/3/2014 10:56 PM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 I guess it depends whether you consider the ability to tab between
 fields and fill in without a popup a regression. I consider the ability
 to do so a 10 year leap forward. I am also able to paste into fields w/o
 issue. The only thing I now have to figure out to use the keyboard to
 show dropdown choices instead of having to use the touchpad or mouse.
 
 NoOp, you totally miss the point.

Wouldn't be the first time :-)

 
 this is not about the new behavior of being able to tab between the 
 fields... I actually like it.
 
 It is about the TOTAL INABILITY to PASTE text into one of these fields, 
 something that we have been able to do since time immemorial.

I can paste into the fillable fields on the documents that I have been
testing. If you'd like to drop me a note directly I'd be happy to send
you the one that I've tested. Or you can send me a form that you cannot
past into. Note: I tested mine in Windows and Linux.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Bug check - 4.2.4, editing Input fields is broken?

2014-07-03 Thread NoOp
On 06/03/2014 06:58 AM, Sophie wrote:
 Le 03/06/2014 15:54, Alex Thurgood a écrit :
 Le 03/06/2014 15:39, Tanstaafl a écrit :
 
 
 Anyone?

 
 Seem to recall there's a bug report for this :
 
 https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=78470
 
 https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=74930
 
 https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=59886
 
 https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61618
 
 I think that Charles is talking about this bug
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75319
 that behavior has been implemented because of the 68 requests in this one:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=33737

And thank goodness for that!

It may now be possible to promote LO/AOO into police departments, public
entities etc., that currently use MS Word docs for this.
Also see:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=79720#c0

10 years in the making :-)

 
 Cheers
 Sophie
 
 Alex
 
 
 
 
 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Bug check - 4.2.4, editing Input fields is broken?

2014-07-03 Thread NoOp
On 07/03/2014 06:43 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 6/10/2014 7:52 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 On 6/3/2014 9:58 AM, Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think that Charles is talking about this bug
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75319
 that behavior has been implemented because of the 68 requests in this
 one:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=33737

 If anyone else dislikes the new 'inline edit' method for editing Input
 fields, please vote for my bug to add a preference to allow users to
 choose between the two methods:

 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79877
 
 Anyone know if there has been any movement on this bug that is 
 preventing anyone using Windows from being able to paste into Input 
 fields - a REGRESSION with respect to basic functionality that has 
 worked since FOREVER?
 

I guess it depends whether you consider the ability to tab between
fields and fill in without a popup a regression. I consider the ability
to do so a 10 year leap forward. I am also able to paste into fields w/o
issue. The only thing I now have to figure out to use the keyboard to
show dropdown choices instead of having to use the touchpad or mouse.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: [MariaDB Announce] MariaDB Galera Cluster 10.0.12 GA and MariaDB 10.1.0 Alpha now available

2014-07-03 Thread NoOp
On 07/03/2014 12:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Just for those people interested in using MariaDb perhaps to replace MySql
 as a back-end for Base.  As others have pointed out there are many possible
 back-ends, such as Postgresql.
 
 Interesting to see the MariaDb people include links to their documentation
 and recent webinars and stuff.  I thought our announcements were good but
 haven't scrolled through ours for a while either.  So, maybe ours are
 better.
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
...

Perhaps you could explain again why you continue to spam MariaDB
announcements to this list?




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[libreoffice-users] [Linux Bug 80661 Filed] Re: LO Draw crashes importing Microsoft Publisher file (ping Brennan/Fridrich/Valek?)

2014-06-28 Thread NoOp
On 6/27/2014 8:21 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 6/25/2014 8:01 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 06/25/2014 07:41 PM, NoOp wrote:
 ...
 Each time that I've tested the non-distro version (which I normally run
 instead of the distro version)
 
 o I do not have any LO distro version installed (purged, including
 config files
 
 o I have purged any other previous LO
 
 o I also have tested the same file on Windows versions of LO (4.1 and
 4.2)  do not experience the crash.
 
 o I was previously able to open the same file using older versions of LO
 (linux/deb), but can't recall which version as it has been some time
 since I tried the file.
 
 o I have not (yet) tested rpm packages (Fedora etc) to see if I get the
 same results.
 
 I've finally tested using RPM files in openSUSE and Fedora 20 - same
 issue. Yet the distro versions (both GNOME and KDE) for those (installed
 after the LO versions) work just fine. So, in summary the files open w/o
 issue on all linux distro versions I've tested (Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora,
 openSUSE), and Windows (XP and Win7).
 
 I'll try to find a file that does not contain any personal information
 to use for a bug report. Of if  Brennan/Fridrich/Valek are reading,
 contact me directly and I'll be happy to send you the failing files
 directly. Anyone know where the test .pub files are? I could not find
 any on git.

Bug filed:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80661
(LibreOffice (non-distro versions) crash when attempting to open
Microsoft Publisher files)
With attached test files.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Draw crashes importing Microsoft Publisher file (ping Brennan/Fridrich/Valek?)

2014-06-27 Thread NoOp
On 6/25/2014 8:01 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 06/25/2014 07:41 PM, NoOp wrote:
 ...
 Each time that I've tested the non-distro version (which I normally run
 instead of the distro version)
 
 o I do not have any LO distro version installed (purged, including
 config files
 
 o I have purged any other previous LO
 
 o I also have tested the same file on Windows versions of LO (4.1 and
 4.2)  do not experience the crash.
 
 o I was previously able to open the same file using older versions of LO
 (linux/deb), but can't recall which version as it has been some time
 since I tried the file.
 
 o I have not (yet) tested rpm packages (Fedora etc) to see if I get the
 same results.

I've finally tested using RPM files in openSUSE and Fedora 20 - same
issue. Yet the distro versions (both GNOME and KDE) for those (installed
after the LO versions) work just fine. So, in summary the files open w/o
issue on all linux distro versions I've tested (Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora,
openSUSE), and Windows (XP and Win7).

I'll try to find a file that does not contain any personal information
to use for a bug report. Of if  Brennan/Fridrich/Valek are reading,
contact me directly and I'll be happy to send you the failing files
directly. Anyone know where the test .pub files are? I could not find
any on git.

...

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Draw crashes importing Microsoft Publisher file (ping Brennan/Fridrich/Valek?)

2014-06-26 Thread NoOp
On 06/26/2014 04:51 AM, James Knott wrote:
 On 06/25/2014 10:41 PM, NoOp wrote:
 Recently I have been able to replicate crashes on linux LO versions
 4.1.x- 4.2.x deb versions (32bit and 64bit) when attempting to open a
 10MB Microsoft Publisher file.
 
 I didn't know LO could open Publisher files.
 

Yes, and generally quite well.

http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/microsoft-publisher-support-makes-its-way-to-libreoffice

This feature allowed me to revive some old MS Pub97 brochure files that
I had.

 Now I'm waiting for Brennan  co to do one for Adobe Pagemaker 65 
Framemaker as well :-)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Draw crashes importing Microsoft Publisher file (ping Brennan/Fridrich/Valek?)

2014-06-26 Thread NoOp
On 06/26/2014 10:46 AM, NoOp wrote:
...
  Now I'm waiting for Brennan  co to do one for Adobe Pagemaker 65 
 Framemaker as well :-)

Correction: waiting for Anurag Kanungo to do one for Adobe Pagemaker... :-)

http://fridrich.blogspot.com/

And as always - thanks Fridrich for these projects!





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[libreoffice-users] LO Draw crashes importing Microsoft Publisher file (ping Brennan/Fridrich/Valek?)

2014-06-25 Thread NoOp
Recently I have been able to replicate crashes on linux LO versions
4.1.x- 4.2.x deb versions (32bit and 64bit) when attempting to open a
10MB Microsoft Publisher file. However, when I switch to the distro LO
version 4.2.4 the .pub file(s) load up instantly. Unfortunately, the MS
Publisher file contains private information so I cannot post that for
testing and/or bug reporting.

I've several stacktraces and crash details for both the 32bit and 64bit
systems. Some details:

Linux: ubuntu 14.04 (32  64 bit) 3.13.0-30-generic
LO versions tried/tested: again 32  64 bit - 4.1.6.2, 4.2.4.1/2, 4.2.5.2.
Distro Version: Ubuntu 4.2.4-0ubuntu2

Each time that I've tested the non-distro version (which I normally run
instead of the distro version)

o I do not have any LO distro version installed (purged, including
config files

o I have purged any other previous LO

o I also have tested the same file on Windows versions of LO (4.1 and
4.2)  do not experience the crash.

o I was previously able to open the same file using older versions of LO
(linux/deb), but can't recall which version as it has been some time
since I tried the file.

o I have not (yet) tested rpm packages (Fedora etc) to see if I get the
same results.

o I've searched bugs.freedesktop.org and can't find any related bug
reports.

So my question here, before I file a bug report is: has anyone else on
this list experienced similar when attempting to open an MS Pub file
(linux only please)?



(Note to Brennan/Fridrich/Valek: thanks so much for the ability to open
MS Pub files with LO - you guys rock!)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Draw crashes importing Microsoft Publisher file (ping Brennan/Fridrich/Valek?)

2014-06-25 Thread NoOp
On 06/25/2014 07:41 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 Each time that I've tested the non-distro version (which I normally run
 instead of the distro version)
 
 o I do not have any LO distro version installed (purged, including
 config files
 
 o I have purged any other previous LO
 
 o I also have tested the same file on Windows versions of LO (4.1 and
 4.2)  do not experience the crash.
 
 o I was previously able to open the same file using older versions of LO
 (linux/deb), but can't recall which version as it has been some time
 since I tried the file.
 
 o I have not (yet) tested rpm packages (Fedora etc) to see if I get the
 same results.
 
 o I've searched bugs.freedesktop.org and can't find any related bug
 reports.

Sorry, forgot to add: I've also tried with fresh profiles, so it is not
a profile issue.

 
 So my question here, before I file a bug report is: has anyone else on
 this list experienced similar when attempting to open an MS Pub file
 (linux only please)?
...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Save Powerpoint presentation as executable

2014-06-20 Thread NoOp
On 06/18/2014 02:59 AM, Cley Faye wrote:
 2014-06-18 2:37 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com:
 
 Unfortunately, not directly. And there is (as far as I know) no simple
 viewer that could be used for this purpose, ...


 On the contrary, if the target platform is Windows (but not other
 operating systems), it can use the freeware Powerpoint Viewer from
 Microsoft:
 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=13 .
 
 
 ​While this can be helpful for peoples having to go back and forth between
 the odp and the ppt format, I have a hard time considering that a ppt
 viewer is a viable alternative to view odp files. Saving a LibreOffice
 presentation as a Powerpoint ​
 ​file can lead to all sort of rendering issues and surprises. ​Also, it
 looks like this need to be installed on the system.
 
 It would be nice to have an autonomous, minimalist binary for this purpose.
 If you can install software on the target computer, might as well install
 LO directly.
 

Perhaps someone will pick this back up  get it working properly
http://opendocumentfellowship.com/odfviewer
http://opendocumentfellowship.com/development/contents
https://code.google.com/p/odfviewer/downloads/list
Note the 2006 dates...





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Save Powerpoint presentation as executable

2014-06-20 Thread NoOp
On 06/19/2014 11:51 PM, Florian Reisinger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Why do not use parallel installed LibreOffice? Or use WebODF: 
 http://webodf.org/

I've not been able to get webodf to work
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/webodf/?src=search on
Firefox or SeaMonkey (linux). I'll fire up Windows tomorrow and try it
there.




 LibreOffice cannot be big and small at the same time :)
 
 Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
 Florian Reisinger
 
 Am 20.06.2014 um 08:23 schrieb NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 
 On 06/18/2014 02:59 AM, Cley Faye wrote:
 2014-06-18 2:37 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com:
 
 Unfortunately, not directly. And there is (as far as I know) no simple
 viewer that could be used for this purpose, ...
 
 On the contrary, if the target platform is Windows (but not other
 operating systems), it can use the freeware Powerpoint Viewer from
 Microsoft:
 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=13 .
 
 
 ​While this can be helpful for peoples having to go back and forth between
 the odp and the ppt format, I have a hard time considering that a ppt
 viewer is a viable alternative to view odp files. Saving a LibreOffice
 presentation as a Powerpoint ​
 ​file can lead to all sort of rendering issues and surprises. ​Also, it
 looks like this need to be installed on the system.
 
 It would be nice to have an autonomous, minimalist binary for this purpose.
 If you can install software on the target computer, might as well install
 LO directly.
 
 Perhaps someone will pick this back up  get it working properly
 http://opendocumentfellowship.com/odfviewer
 http://opendocumentfellowship.com/development/contents
 https://code.google.com/p/odfviewer/downloads/list
 Note the 2006 dates...
 
 
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Save Powerpoint presentation as executable

2014-06-20 Thread NoOp
On 06/20/2014 10:06 AM, Pikov Andropov wrote:
 No, you're mistaken.
 
 Using PP from Office 2007, I was able create a directory that contained
 the following files:
 
 AUTORUN.INF
 THE_ORIGINAL_PPP_FILE.ppt
 INTLDATE.DLL
 microsoft.vc80.crt.manifest
 msvcm80.dll
 msvcp80.dll
 MSVCR80.dll
 OGL.DLL
 play.bat
 playlist.txt
 PPTVIEW.EXE
 pptview.exe.manifest
 PPVWINTL.DLL
 PVREADME.HTM
 SAEXT.DLL
 
 I then copied the contents of that directory to a flash drive and
 plugged that flash drive into another computer. I then opened Windows
 Explorer to that drive and clicked play.bat.
 
 No installation needed!
 

Correct. Many years ago (circa 1999) I created a CD using PowerPoint
Viewer 95 to distribute to our veteran's group.  I purposely set it up
so that whoever used it didn't have to have PowerPoint on their PC to
view the slide show. I still have the CD's, still have the original
files, and it still runs just fine on Windows.

Here is the contents of that autorun.inf file:

[autorun]
OPEN=PPVIEW32.EXE  \present\present.lst
ICON=PPVIEW32.EXE,0

Thanks for jogging my memory.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Save Powerpoint presentation as executable

2014-06-19 Thread NoOp
On 06/18/2014 10:06 AM, Florian Reisinger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I do have PowerPoint as well, but do not know the option. You can export as 
 video, but this is suboptimal.
...

PPT Pack  Go? That package is now called Package for CD:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint-help/what-happened-to-pack-and-go-HA001155279.aspx

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint-help/package-a-presentation-for-cd-HA010336719.aspx

Viewer:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint-help/view-a-presentation-without-powerpoint-2010-HA102000544.aspx



 
 Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
 Florian Reisinger
 
 Am 18.06.2014 um 17:55 schrieb Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com:
 
 Tom Davies has written on 6/18/2014 7:20 AM:
 Hi :)
 There are problems with PowerPoint.
 
 Pp can't use an Android or iThing as a remote-control for flicking between
 slides.  Impress can.  
 
 I saw an Android app for controlling PP in PlayStore/
 
 Pp can't be installed to a usb-stick as a Portable
 App or WinPenPack so it relies on having permissions and time to install to
 the machine being used.
 
 As someone pointed out, if you have PP, you can publish to a local
 directory and then copy that to a flash drive. When you subsequently
 plug that drive in to a USB port, Windows AutoPlay should start the
 presentation. All self-contained with no installations necessary.
 
 BTW, how do those remote control apps work? I.e., what do you need on
 your computer?
 
 Thanks.
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing windows explorer extension only

2014-05-09 Thread NoOp
On 5/9/2014 7:45 AM, Chris Net46 wrote:
 Thanks Tom, I did install the whole program but this is not what you want
 to do on a file server. Microsoft provide filter pack for open document
 format but it doesn't work with recent version of odf files.

These might (or might not) be of interest/use:

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user/12266
Subj: Windows Explorer Extension

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39887
Subj:  Regression: ODT files no longer display in Explorer preview

Note: you can experiment with parallel versions. No sure if that will
help, but at least you can experiment with more than one install at a
time (also works for AOo):
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows
I typically use the CLI for parallel installs, but just tried Florian's:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Server_Install_GUI
  https://flosmind.wordpress.com/libreoffice-server-install-gui/
and it works just fine (thanks Florian) - I just installed 4.2.3 in
parallel to 4.1.6.


 
 Regards,
 
 Chris
 
 
 2014-05-09 14:16 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi :)
 I am not sure if any of the links on this page are useful

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Corporate_Users

 You might have more luck talking to the devs on their irc channel
 (whatever that is) or their mailing list.

 I think the usual quickest answer is to just install the whole program.
  It's not large, unlike MS Office, and it's quite robust so you don't have
 to keep patching it.  In the last 3-4 years there have been about 3
 security issues and 2 of those were only potential possibilities and the
 other required the user to do a bunch of dumb things.  New releases happen
 in order to add functionality so most of us happily stick with older
 versions.

 Probably best to go with stable-branch and get the 4.1.6. That 3rd digit
 is roughly equivalent to the Service Packs so the 6 means that branch has
 really matured.  If the 4.2x has reached 4 then that is pretty rock-solid
 too in which case i'd grab that.  Most of my machines are on 3.5.7 and i've
 long since stopped worrying about exactly which version is where because
 versions don't have all the incompatibilities and problems that spring up
 between different versions of MS Office.

 Hopefully something in there helps!
 Regards from
 Tom :)



 On 9 May 2014 10:51, Chris Net46 chrisne...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I would like to install the optional component windows explorer
 extension
 on a Windows 2008 file server because I need to index open document
 format files saved on this server. I don't need the whole LibreOffice
 suite
 only this component. It's not possible with the installer to select only
 the windows explorer extension but maybe there is a way to install this
 filter manually ?

 Thanks for your help.

 Chris

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[libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-08 Thread NoOp
On 05/04/2014 04:34 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi Tom :)
 Good answers to Urmas there.  Considerate, understanding and
 light-hearted.  Nicely done! :)

Did I miss something? Who/what is Urmas?






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[libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-08 Thread NoOp
On 05/08/2014 07:28 PM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote:
 @NoOp
 
 Full threads in context are available on the Nabble service:
 
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html

Thanks, I can read full threads. I had filtered Urmas some time back.
However, my question was more directed towards Tom Davies who jumped
into the same subthread following Tom Cloyd's response to me.

 
 
 
 From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:15 PM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!
 
 On 05/04/2014 04:34 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi Tom :)
 Good answers to Urmas there.  Considerate, understanding and
 light-hearted.  Nicely done! :)
 
 Did I miss something? Who/what is Urmas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-03 Thread NoOp
On 05/02/2014 07:19 AM, Tom Cloyd wrote:
 Stuart,
 
 Update and status report - good news! -
 
 1. I've installed Version: 4.3.0.0.alpha1 Build ID: 
 46cfcd5a05aa1d13fecd73f5a25b64b8d8dd6781.

Did you by chance experience any dependency errors during your install?

See:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7823
(Dependency errors with LibreOfficeDev_4.3.0.0.alpha1_Linux_x86-64_deb
install)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-03 Thread NoOp
Thanks.

Please remember to reply to the list so that others can benefit from
your response.

On 05/03/2014 04:14 PM, Tom Cloyd wrote:
 No I didn't. It went fine. I've been using it all day. Some problems have
 arisen, but I'm working through them and trying to find the pattern so I
 can report them usefully.
 
 
 On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:08 PM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 On 05/02/2014 07:19 AM, Tom Cloyd wrote:
  Stuart,
 
  Update and status report - good news! -
 
  1. I've installed Version: 4.3.0.0.alpha1 Build ID:
  46cfcd5a05aa1d13fecd73f5a25b64b8d8dd6781.

 Did you by chance experience any dependency errors during your install?

 See:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7823
 (Dependency errors with LibreOfficeDev_4.3.0.0.alpha1_Linux_x86-64_deb
 install)




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-22 Thread NoOp
On 04/18/2014 10:00 AM, Sophie wrote:
...
 To answer you specific question now:
 Le 18/04/2014 17:37, alnuwer a écrit :
 So I guess I have 3 choices:
 Do nothing  - I'm running version 4.2.2.1  (I have it set to auto update)
 Go back to 4.1.5. Will I be giving up functionality?
 Go to 4.2.3.3. But the release notes say it remains targeted for early
 adopters and private power users, which I'm not!
 
 Each of the 4.2.x.x releases are for early adopters because the version
 is still quite new and needs more tests to be said Stable. If you use
 version of this branch you should always update to the last available.
 
 So in layman terms, what is the difference between 4.2.2.1 and 4.1.5?
 
 See above, the 4.1.5 version is stable and has been tested for a long
 time now. I you want to use it for your daily work, you should always
 stay with this branch 4.1.x, until the 4.2.x branch is said stable and
 for all users.
...

Unfortunately that is not how 4.2.x is presented to the casual/new user.
If you go to libreoffice.org and click on the download button (see:
http://s11.postimg.org/lpwmin3cj/Screenshot_from_2014_04_22_09_18_41.png),
the link defaults to libreoffice-fresh and you are presented first with
4.2.x. See:
http://s18.postimg.org/sm3gptoqh/Screenshot_from_2014_04_22_08_48_40.png
and scrolling down the page 4.2.x is again presented as a 'released'
version:
http://s29.postimg.org/au30xbbt3/Screenshot_from_2014_04_22_08_49_44.png
Nothing on that page indicates that 4.2.x is for 'early adopters', and
any new prospective user will do as presented and download the 'Main
Installer'  Help file for 4.2.x.

The user is only directed to libreoffice stable if they click on the
libreoffice.org 'Download' dropdown menu:
http://s16.postimg.org/hx3grlx6t/Screenshot_from_2014_04_22_09_19_13.png

Also, when checking for updates from 4.2.2.1:
Version: 4.2.2.1
Build ID: 3be8cda0bddd8e430d8cda1ebfd581265cca5a0f
I am assured that LibreOffice 4.2 is up to date.
http://s30.postimg.org/5szb78lo1/Screenshot_from_2014_04_22_08_57_37.png




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Apache OO on same distro as LO - for alternate use

2013-11-18 Thread NoOp
On 11/18/2013 10:55 AM, john herron wrote:
 Hello, everyone.
 
 Can Apache OO be installed alongside LO (to run at different times)?
 
 LO 3.5.7.2 [Build ID: 350m1(Build:2)] on Linux Mint 13.

Yes. But I *highly* recommend that you install AOOo 4.x in a parallel
folder instead of installing it via the standard 'dpkg -i *.deb'
command. I've found that AOOo 4.x takes over *all* mime associations for
opendoc's. It's not too much of a problem re-associating the documents
via Nautilus or Nemo, but it totally screws up other applications like
Firefox  SeaMonkey. I've even tried leaving out
openoffice-gnome-integration_4.0.1-5_amd64.deb, but it still screws up
my mime associations.

Note: earlier versions of OOo/AOOo didn't do this, but AOOo seems to
have bundled

Installing a parallel version is pretty simple, just follow the
instructions here:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel#DEB_packages_2

Then create a panel launcher pointing to the folder where you do the
install, example:
/home/user/AOOo/AOOoOpt/opt/openoffice4/program/soffice

You can of course move the AOOo folder to /opt to allow other users to
use it if you wish.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: paypal

2013-11-18 Thread NoOp
On 11/18/2013 06:57 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 James didn't get quite far enough.  It's a page or so further on.  The
 way page is set-up it does look as though you do HAVE TO make a
 donation before the download will start.  It's only the geeks that
 will notice their own web-browser is the only thing blocking the
 download from really starting.
 
 The marketing team did discuss this and various other options but the
 technology is not quite their yet to allow the whole thing to be more
 polite and less demanding.  After a lot of discussion they finally
 settled on doing the same as other projects, such as Ubuntu and many
 others.

It's irritating as hell. It makes LO look as if a donation is required
(even though it says otherwise) and IMO is a bit of an embarrassment
when referring LO to others. Several have commented  were sure to
mention that AOO doesn't require this nonsense.

I just spent 10 minutes figuring out how to bypass this nonsense in
order to download a 205MB update for a remote user at limited
bandwidth. The default download link was downloading at 45Kbps...
Finally remembered the mirrors:
http://download.documentfoundation.org/mirmon/allmirrors.html and only
then was I actually able to get a reasonably speed download connection.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2

2013-11-05 Thread NoOp
On 11/05/2013 06:53 AM, Cliff Scott wrote:
 ** Reply to message from NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net on Mon, 04 Nov 2013
 23:00:26 -0800
 
 On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote:
  ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov
  2013 15:29:02 -0500
...

'. I'm showing the following:
 
 Calibri - Regular|Bold|Italic|Bold italic
 Calibri Light - Light|Light Italic|Bold|Bold Italic
 
 I'll now purge the font(s) due to licencing issues. :-)
 I find that FreeSans 11 is a very close match to Calibri 12. You might
 want to give that a try. http://www.gnu.org/software/freefont/
 
 NoOp - thanks for your ideas. They gave me a clue how to work around the
 issue. It's not the ideal way and the results are not exactly what I wanted,
 but may be useable.
 
 Going into Format/Character I find that the Light option is listed under
 Calibri, but unfortunately Light Bold isn't listed so when I bold the Light
 font it ends up as the Regular Calibri Bold and not Light Bold that it should
 be. Apparently LO 4.1.3.2 tries to combine the two fonts into one family
 rather than keep them separate. The Mac Font Book also lists them as one
 family where in fact they are two families with a common base name. Somehow
 LO 4.0.5 keeps them separate, but 4.1.3.2 doesn't. As I said earlier Open
 Office also sees them as separate families. At least now I have a better
 handle on what's happening. Thanks.

I had to install AOOo in a parallel folder so that it doesn't end up
polluting my file associations (long story)  found:

Both AOOo AOO401m5(Build:9714)  -  Rev. 1524958 2013-09-20 11:54 - Linux
x86_64) and LO 4.1.3.2 act identical, at least on the linux versions.
Both use a substitute font for Calibri Light Bold/Bold Italic. That is
because only Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic are in the fonts
that I copied over from Win7. Calibri Bold and Bold Italic
(calibriz.ttf) are available, so those fonts aren't substituted.

You can verify by Format|Character and then selecting Calibre
Light|Bold/Bold Light and notice the notification: This font style will
be simulated or the closest matching style will be used.. If you select
only Claibri Light|Light/Light Italic the message will change to: The
same font will be used on both your printer and your screen.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2

2013-11-05 Thread NoOp
On 11/05/2013 06:21 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

...
 
 Did the Calibri Light fonts show up on your Win7 boot in LO 4.1.2.3?

Yes. And also in WinXP.

 Which Linux distro are you using to see that that font set showed up in
 the font list?

Doesn't matter - Ubuntu, Fedora, other. LO et al are installed
independent of any distro version. I gave up on distro versions a long
time ago.

 
 Yes, it can be good to find a substitute for paid fonts in the free
 fonts available, but some projects/publishers may require an exact font
 name for the text.  Publishers are known to have a very small set of
 fonts that can be used in the printed document/book/etc..

Then up your price to the publisher by $120:
http://www.fonts.com/font/microsoft-corporation/calibri#product_423239

Another similar (I've not compared for EN spacing etc):
http://www.exljbris.com/fontinsans.htm
Note: it's important to compare/modify font spacing when substitute
fonts. They may look the same character-by-character, but character
spacing can make quite a difference in line length/height etc. That's
primarily why a college course, publisher, et al require exact fonts.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2

2013-11-05 Thread NoOp
On 11/05/2013 11:29 AM, NoOp wrote:
...

 Another similar (I've not compared for EN spacing etc):
 http://www.exljbris.com/fontinsans.htm
 Note: it's important to compare/modify font spacing when substitute
 fonts. They may look the same character-by-character, but character
 spacing can make quite a difference in line length/height etc. That's
 primarily why a college course, publisher, et al require exact fonts.

Sorry, forgot to add that you can scale FreeSans 10 pretty close to
Calibri 12:

Format|Character|Position|Rotation/Scaling|Scale width: 111%




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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2

2013-11-05 Thread NoOp
On 11/05/2013 05:21 PM, c...@intergate.com wrote:
 Quoting NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 
...
 Both AOOo AOO401m5(Build:9714)  -  Rev. 1524958 2013-09-20 11:54 - Linux
 x86_64) and LO 4.1.3.2 act identical, at least on the linux versions.
 Both use a substitute font for Calibri Light Bold/Bold Italic. That is
 because only Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic are in the fonts
 that I copied over from Win7. Calibri Bold and Bold Italic
 (calibriz.ttf) are available, so those fonts aren't substituted.

 You can verify by Format|Character and then selecting Calibre
 Light|Bold/Bold Light and notice the notification: This font style will
 be simulated or the closest matching style will be used.. If you select
 only Claibri Light|Light/Light Italic the message will change to: The
 same font will be used on both your printer and your screen.

 
 Correct. I have done all that. The issue with LO 4.1.3.2 is that it  
 cannot differentiate between the font sub-families, I guess you would  
 call them, so it thinks Calibri and Calibri Light are the same family.  
 They are in a sense, but not in another sense and LO 4.0.5 can tell  
 the difference and 4.1.3.2 cannot. AOO can tell the difference also  
 even better than LO 4.0.5 in that it separates out Calibri, Calibri  
 Light and Calibri Light Italic as separate fonts in the drop down list  
 so I can choose which ever one I want. In 4.1.3.2 I can make the  
 Calibri Light work using the Format/Character menus, but cannot any  
 way get Calibri Light Bold to work as it isn't listed anywhere.  
 Somehow LO has changed how the fonts are differentiated and it really  
 messes up this font access.

Interesting... maybe a MAC difference? Both my Windows (WinXP and Win7)
and Linux (Ubuntu and Fedora) versions of AOOo and LO only show Calibri
and Calibri Light in the dropdown. Calibri Light Italic (it is installed
on my Windows system) isn't listed in the dropdowns. Ditto for other
Windows applications: MSWord, Works, Wordpad.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2

2013-11-04 Thread NoOp
On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote:
 ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov
 2013 15:29:02 -0500
 
 Reminder: This is on a Mac with OSx Lion (10.7.5).
 
 Sorry for replying to my own message, but I finally rebooted and no help. I
 removed the whole family of fonts and reinstalled them and still LO 4.1..3.2
 will not recognize Calibri Light. This is mind boggling to me since, as far
 as I can see, it sees all the other installed fonts. This may sound strange,
 but without this font I cannot use this version. This is a key font in a
 newsletter I publish.
 
 Please, if anyone has any ideas what can be done to make this work speak up.
 I would very much like to upgrade to the 4.1.3.2 version, but can't with this
 issue.
...

Sorry, can't help you with a Mac, but...

I copied the Calibri fonts from my Win7 partition and placed in my
~/.fonts folder on linux. Updated the font cache (sudo fc-cache -f -v),
opened LO 4.1.3.2 (Version: 4.1.2.3 Build ID:
40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38), and both Calibri and Calibri
Light show up in the font menu  work just fine. Note: When you use a
Calibri (or any other font set) you can see the options available via
'Format|Character'. I'm showing the following:

Calibri - Regular|Bold|Italic|Bold italic
Calibri Light - Light|Light Italic|Bold|Bold Italic

I'll now purge the font(s) due to licencing issues. :-)
I find that FreeSans 11 is a very close match to Calibri 12. You might
want to give that a try. http://www.gnu.org/software/freefont/






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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-09 Thread NoOp
On 10/07/2013 10:14 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)  
 I once read an amusing article If operating systems were airplanes.  I 
 couldn't find the one i read but managed to pluck these bits from Zyra's mad 
 website.  
 
snip

http://www.webaugur.com/bazaar/53-what-if-operating-systems-were-airlines.html
 What if Operating Systems Were Airlines?

Published on Friday, 01 February 2002 00:00
Written by David L Norris 




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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO on La Gendarmerie Nationale computers ?

2013-10-05 Thread NoOp
On 10/03/2013 09:14 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
 Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
 ​ has published an interesting article, ​
 ​*French police move from Windows to Ubuntu Linux* (
 http://www.zdnet.com/french-police-move-from-windows-to-ubuntu-linux-721479/)
 ​
 ​, over at ZDNet. It deals explicitly with a migration from Windows XP to a
 «customized version of Ubuntu Linux», but if, as I presume, LO is included
 as the standard office suite, it is significant for us as well. Anyone
 familiar with the details ?...
 
 Henri
 

Perhaps LO is included, however the presentation is done using Ooo 3.4.1.
http://www.eventolinux.org/images/el2013_apresentacao-stephanedumond.pdf.pdf



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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to permanently get rid of Full Screen toolbar in Writer when in Full Screen mode?

2013-04-26 Thread NoOp
On 04/25/2013 12:52 PM, david wrote:
...
 What I mean is a full screen view WITHOUT THE FULLSCREEN TOOLBAR (the
 silly little thing that contains only a button to exit full screen
 mode). That toolbar always appears in full screen mode and it's the ONLY
 toolbar that appears in fullscreen mode.

 In 3.6, I had it hidden, there are a number of Google search results
 that explain what to change in 3.6's registrymodifications.xcu file to
 make it disappear. v4 doesn't seem to have that file anymore, and
 changes to the 3.6 version in .libreoffice/3 don't make a difference in 4.
 
 So no solution to the above for LibreOffice 4? It can't do something 
 that WordPerfect has done for over 10 years, and MS Word can do? That 
 LO3.6 could do with a bit of configuration file editing?
 


https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-abq=libreoffice+%2B+full+screen+%2B+toolbar

  http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg05935.html

$ locate registrymodifications.xcu
../.config/libreoffice/4/user/registrymodifications.xcu

item
oor:path=/org.openoffice.Office.UI.WriterWindowState/UIElements/States/org.openoffice.Office.UI.WindowState:WindowStateType['private:resource/toolbar/fullscreenbar']prop
oor:name=Visible oor:op=fusevaluetrue/value/prop/item

Suggest that you refile a new bug report  ref this:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52249
I show the issue on both linux and Windows versions of LO (including the
'Find' toolbar remaining visible):
Version 4.0.2.2 (Build ID: 4c82dcdd6efcd48b1d8bba66bfe1989deee49c3)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Reset the profile

2013-01-28 Thread NoOp
On 01/27/2013 07:19 AM, C. H. D. wrote:
 
 
 Hello! Regarding this bug report:
 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59270

C. H. D., I've replicated and added my comments to your bug report. It
seems that Rainer doesn't like my instructions on how to replicate. Good
luck... I think you'll need it.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 4.0 alongside 3.5

2013-01-27 Thread NoOp
On 01/26/2013 11:02 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 For some reasons I want to try the upcoming version 4.0. On the web
 page, they say ”You are not recommended to use LibreOffice pre-release
 builds for mission-critical purposes”. So obviously I need a stable
 version as well, like the 3.5.7.2 that I have installed right now.
 
 So I presume that I can use both versions at the same time, that they
 are ”isolated” from each other as long as 4.0 is a pre-release, right?
 
 But before I'm going to install it, I want to know rather than just assume…
 
 So, is it possible? If so, can I just install the debs (operating
 system=Ubuntu 12.04) and it will just work? Will I be able to run both
 versions at the same time safely?

Luckily, LODev4 (linux only [1]) installs as a separate install:

$ locate versionrc
/opt/libreoffice/ure/bin/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice3.4/basis3.4/program/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice3.4/program/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice3.4/ure/bin/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice3.6/program/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/versionrc
/opt/lodev4.0/program/versionrc
/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.4/program/versionrc
/opt/openoffice.org/ure/bin/versionrc
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/versionrc
/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/versionrc

Install  then create a new generic launcher to
/opt/lodev4.0/program/soffice and you'll be fine. You can run at the
same time as LO 3.x.


[1] NHote to Windows users that are reading this, Please *read*:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
NOTE: This build is in a release configuration and will replace your
existing LibreOffice install on Windows!


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Thunderbird Address Book as Data Source

2013-01-25 Thread NoOp
On 01/20/2013 04:03 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
 Le 20/01/13 01:06, NoOp a écrit :
 
 Hi NoOp,
 
 I see; not trying to not shooting the messenger - thanks Alex ;-)
 
 So will this be yet another 'improvement feature' like removing the text
 boundaries[1] in Writer? Should we toss all of our pre-mork .odb's?
 
 
 To be honest, I don't know, as I haven't really played around with it in
 a before and after situation. On Mac, one couldn't access
 Thunderbird addressbooks anyway prior to LO4, so at least for that OS,
 there's been an improvement ;-)
 
 From what I understand, the mork driver is a work in progress...in other
 words, basic functionality works for one address book, things like
 lists, other address books, etc, do not yet work, and the table will
 remain read-only (as was the case with the mozab driver), in order to
 avoid potentially nasty conflicts of write operations when having the
 address book table open in TB and LO at the same time...
 
 Alex


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51004
[replace mozilla address book parser with a new implementation that
doesn't link to mozilla libraries]

They've certainly accomplished the doesn't link to mozilla libraries
part; not only can you not access your other Thunderbird addressbooks,
but you can no longer access *any* other Mozilla (SeaMonkey for example)
addressbooks. If you rename the ~/.thunderbid directory, you get a The
file $finame$ could not be loaded. That also applies to any previous
.odb's with non-Thunderbird addressbooks (links are all that the .odb uses).

Found this:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57285
[Address Book Data Source Wizard lists Mac OS X address book on Linux]
which seems to shed some light on the issue (sdbc:address:mozilla: etc).





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[libreoffice-users] Re: missing dialog option in Win7 install?

2013-01-21 Thread NoOp
On 01/20/2013 09:13 AM, Luuk wrote:
 On 19-01-2013 15:43, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

 I just noticed a difference in the Tools  Options  LibreOffice 
 General options in the 3.6.4 versions.

 With my 64-bit Debian install, there is a section for Print dialogs
 and the option for that is Use LibreOffice dialogs.

 With my install on Windows 7 professional, that Print dialogs section
 is missing.


 
 i just upgraded my Windows7 to Libreoffice 3.6.4.3  (from 3.6.1)
 This setting did exist in 3.6.1

Yes it was/is: Windows Version 3.6.1.1 (Build ID: 4db6344)
However, it doesn't change from the LO print dialog even if
'experimental' is enabled.

 And it no longer there in 3.6.4.3

Most likely because it didn't do anything (in Windows).

 
 Enabling 'experimatal features' does not resolve this...
 




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[libreoffice-users] Re: missing dialog option in Win7 install?

2013-01-21 Thread NoOp
On 01/20/2013 08:27 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 On 01/19/2013 06:46 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 01/19/2013 06:43 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 I just noticed a difference in the Tools  Options  LibreOffice 
 General options in the 3.6.4 versions.

 With my 64-bit Debian install, there is a section for Print dialogs
 and the option for that is Use LibreOffice dialogs.

 With my install on Windows 7 professional, that Print dialogs section
 is missing.

 I do not know if it is missing in my Windows installs for earlier
 versions of LO, since I updated all my Windows systems to 3.6.4 last month.

 I know, for Ubuntu, I need to click that check box in order to get LO to
 print duplex pages properly for my Epson Artisan 810 printer. With that
 option, both my HP Laserjet 2300dn and Canon MG6220 [inkjet] printers
 are duplexing properly as well.

 I am running Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit OS with MATE desktop environment and
 Win7/pro 64-bit systems[plus Ubuntu 10.04 and Win XP/pro]  So my Linux
 system show it, but my Windows systems do not.

 It there a reason that DEB installs need that option and Windows do not?
 Probably for the same reason that you don't have spadmin in Windows
 versions... (CUPS etc).

 ...
 
 Well there should be no difference with the print dialogs between 
 versions.  Are you going to use the systems default print dialogs or 
 the package's?  Checking the box does not change the print dialogs used 
 for LO.  It is always LO's dialogs instead of the one that the other 
 packages use.  So either way, it uses a different print dialog than the 
 Ubuntu/Debian default print dialog used by packages like Firefox or GIMP.

The Ubuntu linux distro supplied version does indeed work.

LibreOffice 3.5.4.
Build ID: 350m1(Build:2)
This product was supplied by The Document Foundation, Debian and Ubuntu.

When unchecked, LO(U) uses the GTK print dialog.

It does not work in the linux LO Versions:
o LibreOffice 3.5.7.2
Build ID: 3215f89-f603614-ab984f2-7348103-1225a5
o 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)
o 4.0.0.0.beta2 (Build ID: 4104d660979c57e1160b5135634f732918460a0)
version. (It probable doesn't work in the LODev4 version because there
is no 'Enable experimental (unstable) features'.)

So file a bug report. Or add to an existing one:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=use+print+dialog

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59256
[Use LibreOffice dialogs option for print dialog is ignored]
(filed 8 days before you started this thread, so quite recent)



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Where are the nightly builds for Linux?

2013-01-21 Thread NoOp
On 01/21/2013 05:26 PM, Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
 Hello, Everyone
 I hope that this is not too off topic, but I was wondering...  Where are the 
 nightly builds for Linux?  
 
 The following three directories are now empty:
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Linux-Fedora17-x86_64@4-gcc-4.7-
 dbgutil/
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Linux-x86_10-Release-
 Configuration/
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Linux-x86_64_11-Release-
 Configuration/
 
 This is the last nightly build that I have been able to install:
 
 Version 4.1.0.0.alpha0+ (Build ID: 4a507f732d82c188ad81b022cbe3037951e58ac)
 TinderBox: Linux-Fedora17-x86_64@4-gcc-4.7-dbgutil, Branch:master, Time: 
 2012-12-24_14:04:36
 
 The directory that I downloaded it from is now empty:
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Linux-Fedora17-x86_64@4-gcc-4.7-
 dbgutil/
 
 Any help you can give me in solving this mystery is greatly appreciated.
 
 Steven P. Ulrick
 

/master seems to only contain Windows files every time that I've looked.

You can backup one directory
 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/
and then go to LO 4
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/libreoffice-4-0/
There you find the most recent deb  rpms:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/libreoffice-4-0/Linux-x86_64_11-Release-Configuration/current/

etc.

Other than that, I'd suggest asking on the dev list.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Thunderbird Address Book as Data Source

2013-01-19 Thread NoOp
On 01/19/2013 04:12 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :) I think a few people need to contact the devs list and ask for
 an LDAP connector to be either re-instated or created afresh.
 Perhaps as an Extension?  Is anyone already on the devs list? Regards

Perhaps you missed:
Subject: Thunderbird Address Book as Data Source



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Quality Assurance

2013-01-17 Thread NoOp
On 01/15/2013 05:28 PM, C. H. D. wrote:
 Hello!
 
 Thanks for this idea. I report a bug related to LibreOffice.

Thanks for that. When you report a bug, it's always helpful to give the
link to the bug so that others can view/contribute.

The link to the bug report is:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59278
[EDITING: Missing dot when exporting PDF (regression)]

 
 I guess, there must be something different if DiffPDF says the two PDF files 
 are different. (maybe visible in Document Viewer (Evince) or in Adobe Reader)
 
 I look for that difference and report the bug accordingly.
 
 Regards,
 C. H. D.
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Broken file

2013-01-17 Thread NoOp
On 01/16/2013 06:07 AM, Sandy Harris wrote:
 I've been editing a file that is in Word .doc format using L-O 3.6 on
 Xubuntu Linux, with all updates Xubuntu provides. File was created by
 L-O on this system as ODF, later converted to Word format for some
 sharing. Formatting is not remarkably complex; headings and bulleted
 lists but no graphics or tables.
 
 Something is screwed up; attempts to open the file give General
 input/output error. Other .doc files on the Linux machine open just
 fine. This file opens fine with Wordpad on a Windows XP box (all text
 visible, formatting odd); if necessary I can install MS Word there and
 recover that way. Or I can recover from either .odf or .doc backups,
 but I'd lose some work that way.
 
 Is there another recovery method worth trying?
 

Sandy,
Have a look through bugzilla to see if there is a similar bug already filed:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__content=General%20input%2Foutput%20errorlist_id=210214product=LibreOfficequery_format=specificorder=component%20DESC%2Crelevance%20DESCquery_based_on=

I looked at:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59384
[FILEOPEN: General input/output error on open, possibly due to endnotes]
which may be similar to your issue. I downloaded the bug's notwork.rtf
and sure enough, it gives a GIO error in LO 3.6, LO 3.5, LO 4.0Dev,
ApacheOO 3.4. However I could open it in Abiword  from Abiword saved to
an .odt. I could then open the Abiword notwork.odt without issues (the
endnotes were intact  working just fine). So, give Abiword a spin with
your document  see if you can do the same.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Embedded Java

2013-01-16 Thread NoOp
On 01/13/2013 05:35 AM, James Knott wrote:
 Jay Lozier wrote:
 Yes, all OS's are affected because Java is cross platform. I am not 
 sure if any of the previous version are affected or if only the 
 current release is affected.

 The primary concern is Java applets run by your browser. The 
 vulnerability allows a zero-day browser exploit that as yet is not 
 patched by Oracle. The primary concerns I have heard of are 
 installation of keyloggers and installation of ransomware. I would 
 assume the malware will use the JVM to run and would be cross 
 platform. AFAIK, Oracle has not yet announced when a patch will be 
 available.
 
 As I mentioned in another note, I'm running OpenJDK, not Oracle Java.  
 So the question becomes is it a problem in general with Java or just 
 Oracle's.

It is an OpenJDK problem as well. I've just posted this on the Mozilla
SeaMonkey user support nntp group:

Given the Zero-Day Java 7 vulnerabilities (see Paul B Gallagher's
thread: 'Java 7u10 vulnerability in browsers' and for those using
OpenJDK  Icedtea for Java JRE:

Security releases for OpenJDK and Icedtea were released yesterday (Tues
Jan 17).

http://blog.fuseyism.com/index.php/2013/01/15/security-icedtea-2-1-4-2-2-4-2-3-4-released/
http://blog.fuseyism.com/index.php/2013/01/16/security-and-browser-plugins/

 This confirms that OpenJDK7 and IcedTea7 were vulnerable - of course I
reckon that it will take awhile for the builds to get pushed to the
distro's.

Note that OpenJDK 6 is not affected.. So if you are using OpenJDK7 I'd
recommend installing OpenJDK6 (you can leave OpenJDK7 installed[1]), and
then using update-alternatives to set OpenJDK6 as the system JRE.

For Debian/Ubuntu users:

$ sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get upgrade
$ sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
$ sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin

$ sudo update-alternatives --config java
$ sudo update-alternatives --config mozilla-javaplugin.so

Ensure that you are using OpenJDK6 instead of OpenJDK7. Example:
~$ java -version
java version 1.6.0_24
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.5) (6b24-1.11.5-0ubuntu1~12.04.1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)

If you enable Java in SeaMonkey (I recommend using Prefbar to turn Java
on/off), the IcedTead plugin (Ubuntu in this example) in about:config
will show:

IcedTea-Web Plugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.2 (1.2-2ubuntu1.3))

File: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
Version:
The IcedTea-Web Plugin executes Java applets.

I'd also check your LibreOffice/ApacheOO installs  select OpenJDK6:
Tools|Options|Java| select 'Sun Microsystems, Inc. 1.6.0_24
Note: I do not know of the current zero-day vulnerablity affecting
LibreOffice/ApacheOO - but to be cautious I revert to OpenJDK6.

[1] I keep openJDK7 installed so that it will be updated when the distro
packagers issue the security update.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Embedded Java

2013-01-13 Thread NoOp
On 01/12/2013 07:42 PM, George R. Crossman wrote:
 I'm seeing warnings saying that one should disable embedded Java to 
 avoid hacking. Does this apply to linux users? If so, what is the procedure?

Yes. If you are using your distributions version of Oracle Java 7, then
they will (eventually) issue a security update. If you have installed on
your own, Java7u11 is now available:

https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Embedded Java

2013-01-13 Thread NoOp
On 01/13/2013 07:44 PM, Paul Schwartz wrote:
 Does this update fix the Java plugin for Firefox?

Don't know. Ask them:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/get-community-support
...

Yes. If you are using your distributions version of Oracle Java 7, then
they will (eventually) issue a security update. If you have installed on
your own, Java7u11 is now available:

https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html



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[libreoffice-users] Re: No version named 4.0.0.0 RC1

2013-01-11 Thread NoOp
On 01/11/2013 08:04 PM, C. H. D. wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I think the version numbers have not been refreshed properly.
 
 I cannot report the bugs in LibreOffice 4 Release Candidate 1 here:
 
 https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/
 
 The error message I get is:
 

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=LibreOfficebug_status=UNCONFIRMED





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[libreoffice-users] [OT] Here e-letter goes again... was Re: Unable to use dotx files

2013-01-10 Thread NoOp
On 01/10/2013 05:21 AM, e-letter wrote:
 On 08/01/2013, kahu jmei...@worldimpact.org wrote:
 My company has provided .dotx files as a template for me to use, but I
 cannot open it correctly rendered in LibreOffice 3.6.4 or LO-dev 4.0 Beta
 2.

 
 Here we go _again_: why didn't the company provide you with m$ along
 with the template?

Yes, here you go... again.

Real world situations sometimes aren't what we may like. For example,
have you ever tried to convince a local government to not provide .dotx?

http://www.sccgov.org/sites/ec/jobseeker/careerskills/Pages/application_process.aspx

Employment Connection offers a Job Application Template which may be
used as a guide for completing job applications at any employer. Below
are instructions for preparing and completing our Job Application Template.

http://www.sccgov.org/sites/ec/SiteCollectionDocuments/master_application.docx

Now I suppose that one could go to the next SCC (the home of Silicon
Valley btw) public meeting  request a change. Or contact the department
responsible for the web page. (I might to all) But in reality I suspect
that it would take an act of deity to get them to add an .odt anytime
soon. Do you think I could get them to issue a copy of MSO to every
citizen in the county?

Forget the fact that some older versions of MSO will not be able to open
the .dotx without a huge downloaded extension... At least LO users are
able to open the .dotx. Unfortunately, the result is not useable in LO
without major document modifications (LO 3.6.x and 4.0dev).
In the meantime, I'm thankful that LO does open the dotx files and that
the filter(s) are improving. I suggest that the filters do improve due
to folks testing/trying  then providing bug reports when the filter(s)
does not work as expected.

But we've all been through your (IMO) uncalled for blather before,
haven't we? How about either contributing to the technical aspect of
this thread, or not commenting at all?

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Writer] Regular expressions

2013-01-09 Thread NoOp
On 01/08/2013 12:45 PM, gordom wrote:
...
 In real life :-) there are lines starting with letters also. Only 
 these with Set: at the beginning should be left, rest is going to be 
 deleted.
 
 Set:   01SA34509
 0109SA
 011017B
 S01020207B
 010902B
 01090002
 011007B
 01090001
 090110
 Set:   0134501
 011101
 HB01110102
 01110103
 080908
 Set:   0111679SE
 0111SE
 
 I'm surprised that there is no simple way to find everything except 
 Set:.+$
...

If you are going to have to do this on a 'regular basis' (pun intended),
install AltSearch[1]  then use select Regular Expression and:

\p[:alnum:]+\p

That will select all except the 'Set:' lines. You can then replace with
blank.

[1]
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/alternative-dialog-find-replace-for-writer
- Help: http://www.volny.cz/macrojtb/HelpAltSearch_en.html



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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Writer] Regular expressions

2013-01-09 Thread NoOp
On 01/09/2013 02:55 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 If you are going to have to do this on a 'regular basis' (pun intended),
 install AltSearch[1]  then use select Regular Expression and:
 
 \p[:alnum:]+\p
 
 That will select all except the 'Set:' lines. You can then replace with
 blank.

Correction: you can then replace them with:  /p/p

...


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[libreoffice-users] Ping Fridrich Strba - re Visio Filters

2013-01-09 Thread NoOp
Fridric, your Visio filters in LO 4.0dev rock! Thanks  thanks to all
that assisted!

I just fired up LO 4.0dev (linux)
Version 4.0.0.0.beta2 (Build ID: 4104d660979c57e1160b5135634f732918460a0
and opened up a Visio 4 file:

$ file TWhse2.vsd
TWhse2.vsd: Composite Document File V2 Document, Little Endian, Os:
Windows, Version 4.0, Code page: 1252, Author: snip, Template:
C:\Program Files\Visio\Solutions\Network Diagram\Basic Network.vst,
Title: Network

and it opened nearly perfectly in LO Draw. (Nearly perfectly as some of
the text boxes were shifted over a drawing object, but was easy enough
to drag to a proper location.)

I found that I can copy  paste to a Write document intact  ungroup in
Write  rearrange... how cool is that! Regrouping in Write is a little
like hearding cats, but possible.

Thanks again - Fridrich.

For those that are wondering what the heck I'm talking about, please see:
http://fridrich.blogspot.ch/2012/12/libreoffice-visio-import-filter-20.html
and
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0#Filters [Extended
coverage of Visio file-format.]

Gary Lee




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to use dotx files

2013-01-08 Thread NoOp
On 01/08/2013 03:57 PM, kahu wrote:
 I would be happy to start a bug request for this--thanks for your work on
 this with me.
 
 Can you help me define exactly what the problem is, so I can explain what
 needs to be addressed in the report?

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=dotx

Appears that there is a bug open prior to yours that may be related:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41190
[FORMATTING, FILEOPEN: no drop-down field when open docx template file]

Way too many for 'docx' to easily go through:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=docx





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to use dotx files

2013-01-08 Thread NoOp
On 01/07/2013 06:29 PM, kahu wrote:
 I really would like to see a fix for this which would allow for other users
 to open dotx files within our organization by simple steps--not just me,
 but something I can recommend to anyone else.  If it is a technical process
 of extraction I think using another software would be the only other option
 for others unfortunately.
 
 The content you found in the header and footer is also what appears when
 rendering in Word.  In LibreOffice 3.6, 4.0b2 I don't think I have any
 content at all in the heading, but it reads Heading (Converted1).  I have
 not seen the converted part before.
 
 Here is another file which was a dotx and then saved within Word 2010 to a
 doc format:
 https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0HMHW6qyzS-MWZrNHd4dTB5TnM
 I can open it fine in LibreOffice, but not edit the body at all--instead it
 prompts for a password (which is what I think is supposed to protect the
 header/footer content). Opening this file in Word the body can be edited
 without a password prompt.
...

I also get the same (linux 3.6.4.3). However, if I do a 'Save As' on the
file (to .doc/.odt/.ott) and then reopen the 'saved as' in LO, the
password protection is gone  I can then edit. Give it a try to see if
you can do the same. I suspect that something in the .doc is setting a
password protection flag - and then re-saving removes it.

Note: Saving as a .docx screws up the header. The footer seems OK.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to use dotx files

2013-01-07 Thread NoOp
On 01/07/2013 03:19 PM, kahu wrote:
 My company has provided .dotx files as a template for me to use, but I
 cannot open it correctly rendered in LibreOffice 3.6.4 or LO-dev 4.0 Beta 2.
 
 Essentially the header and footer are protected fields created in Word 2010
 with graphics and text, and the body is open for text, but supposedly with
 limitations of manipulation.
 
 When I open the file I have a page that looks blank with a field to type in,
 but the header and footer seem stripped out, and I can manipulate more than
 I think I am supposed to.
 
 Is dotx supported by LibreOffice, is there anything I can try to remedy
 this?
 
 I'm happy to supply the document if that would be helpful.
 
From MS Word I've saved the file as a doc and then worked from
 there--which mostly works.  It preserves the content and formatting of the
 header and footer 90% (margins are off a little).  But I do not have MS Word
 formatting restrictions applied.
 
 Another example of a dotx template file converted to doc in Word locks
...

In LO 3.5 (linux) I get the header  footer as frames.

If I expand the header frame I can see:
Jared and Kim Meidal   WORLD IMPACT-THE OAKS
jmei...@worldimpact.org 18651 Pine Canyon Rd.
kmei...@worldimpact.org Lake Hughes, CA 93532
(661) 724-1018

If I expand the footer I can see:

Camping and Conference ministry of WORLD IMPACT, INC.
NATIONAL OFFICE 2001 S. Vermont Avenue Los
Angeles, California 90007
(323) 735-1137
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/World.Impact.Inc • E-mail:
wii...@worldimpact.org • Website: www.worldimpact.org

And I can see the logo in the upper right corner.

In 3.6.4.3 (linux  Windows) I get the same results as you (blank).

IIMO it's a bug.


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[libreoffice-users] LO 3.6 Win7 (Impress) troubleshooting hints?

2013-01-05 Thread NoOp

User has a clean install of LO 3.6.4.3 on Win7. Editing an Impress .ppt
file, LO crashes randomly on file saves. The netbook has 2GB of RAM 
I've reduced the 'undo' to 25 vs 100, and that seems to stablized it a
little. But LO is still crashing (closes  needs to be restarted -
document recovery works). I cannot get the file to crash in linux  no,
I can't share the file - sorry.

I'm very familiar with how to set up LO in linux for troubleshooting
traces, et al, but have no idea on how to do the same in the Windows
version. Is there any troubleshooting guide for Win installs?

Note: I've looked through bugzilla:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=impress+crash
and
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA-FAQ etc.
But can't find a straightforward set of instructions on how to do a
backtrace etc., on Windows.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: huge print jobs for MS Publisher Imagesetter printer

2012-12-29 Thread NoOp
On 12/27/2012 01:06 AM, Anna Martynova wrote:
 Please excuse me for long delay.
 I've uploaded my test file to dropbox:
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/80139861/test.odt

I can replicate with the MSPI driver using your file with both LO (3.5
and 3.6) and AOO (3.4). However, if I use the generic Adobe Postscript
driver on Windows, and CUPS on linux, I do not have an issue. So, again,
it appears to be the MSPI driver.

The link (http://www.itar-tass.com/c95/606073.html) is valid - but
refers to a broken jpg reference[1] included and that is most likely the
problem. I'd need to spend some time comparing the xml files to figure
out the difference.

[1]
data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAgGBgcGBQgHBwcJCQgKDBQNDAsLDBkSEw8UHRofHh0aHBwgJC4nICIsIxwcKDcpLDAxNDQ0Hyc5PTgyPC4zNDL/2wBDAQkJCQwLDBgNDRgyIRwhMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjL
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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is that configuration file again?

2012-12-22 Thread NoOp
On 12/22/2012 01:36 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
 Greetings,
 I am having problems with importing a powerpoint file, causing LO to 
 hang and crash, and wanted to try renaming the configuration file.  
 However, I can no longer find it.  Previous versions had it in my home 
 directory, but it is no longer there.  Can someone point me to that help 
 on finding the configuration file for LO 3.5.4?
 Thanks.
 Girvin Herr
 
 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=libreoffice+profile+locations
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile


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[libreoffice-users] Re: bugzilla report emails are including HTML

2012-12-21 Thread NoOp
On 12/21/2012 12:45 AM, Manfred J. Krause wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:43 AM, NoOp wrote:
 No response on the discuss list, so I'll try here.

 Why are the emailed bug reports also including HTML?  [...]
 
 
 Bugzilla (log in) → (User) Preferences → General Preferences →
 Preferred email format
 
 - Site Default (HTML)
 - HTML
 - Text Only
 
 → Submit Changes

Thanks Manfred, I'll reset it. However, I don't recall making any
changes to my bugzilla account. All of the messages were in plain text
up until sometime in November.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: record changes weakness compared to m$

2012-12-21 Thread NoOp
On 12/20/2012 10:25 PM, e-letter wrote:
 On 19/12/2012, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 On 12/19/2012 12:26 AM, e-letter wrote:
 Readers,

 Have done a bug report on both LO and AOO, about the 'changes' feature
 of the word processor. (It's excellent that there are multiple
 ...
 And the link to that bug report is... ?

 
 For LO (RSS feed):
 https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=VERIFIEDcomponent=Writerproduct=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedshort_desc=changesshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrtitle=Bug%20Listctype=atom
 
 For OO: (RSS feed):
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=VERIFIEDcomponent=editingproduct=word%20processorquery_format=advancedresolution=---short_desc=changesshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrtitle=Bug%20Listctype=atom


I certainly would have been willing to try to assist if you could have
pointed me to *your* bug report. But it appears that *you've* not
actually filed a report as stated... right?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: typographic freaks: footnotes not vertically aligned to last line of body text in following page (as in good typographic style)

2012-12-21 Thread NoOp
On 12/21/2012 07:08 AM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
 On 21/12/2012 at 01:03, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Sorry, but I'm not seeing what you are. My screenshot:
 http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6830/libreofficefootnotewrit.png
 
 They are not aligned vertically. Last line of text on right page is about 3-4 
 points higher that last line of footnote on left page. Take a ruler and check 
 for yourself.
 

Cleans eye glasses... Measures. Yep you are correct.
Mea culpa  thanks for pointing that out - I should have looked closer.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: huge print jobs for MS Publisher Imagesetter printer

2012-12-21 Thread NoOp
On 12/20/2012 05:12 AM, Anna Martynova wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I noticed a strange thing in Windows version of Libre Office. When I print
 to printer that is configured with driver MS Publisher Imagesetter,
 sometimes print files are really huge. For testing purpose I used Print to
 file option.
 For example I attached a 13 kilobyte odt file that turns into 48 megabytes
 print file. It contains several lines of letters and numbers, and then
 broken link to image (copied from web browser).

You can't attach files here. You either need to post them on a site
somewhere, or use Nabble to attach.

As a test I installed MS Publisher Imagesetter, on a WinXP virtual
machine (on a linux host). I then printed a 13K two page .odt file from
LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 58f22d5); the first page is all text, the
second page is an EPS graphic. Printed to MS Publisher Imagesetter and
the result is a 107K postscript file that I opened in Ghostscript to
ensure it worked properly.

The PS heading on the print file:

%!PS-Adobe-3.0
%%Title: eps-example
%%Creator: PScript5.dll Version 5.2.2
%%CreationDate: 12/21/2012 17:28:40
%%For: G
%%BoundingBox: (atend)
%%Pages: (atend)
%%Orientation: Portrait
%%PageOrder: Special
%%DocumentNeededResources: (atend)
%%DocumentSuppliedResources: (atend)
%%DocumentData: Clean7Bit
%%TargetDevice: () (52.3) 320
%%LanguageLevel: 1
%%EndComments

%%BeginDefaults
%%PageBoundingBox: 21 54 582 774
%%ViewingOrientation: 1 0 0 1
%%EndDefaults

 If I print this document to another printer (with different driver, for
 example, HP LaserJet 2050) the size of print jobs is quite reasonable (less
 than 1 megabyte).

I suspect that you have an issue with the MSPI driver. You might want to
install a second one and see if it acts the same.
 
 Is it normal behavior? Have anyone else noticed that?
 We met with it when we were trying to understand why printing from Libre
 Office takes so much time in RDP terminal session. :) (We had files that
 produced even 250 Mb of print data, of course it took much time to send it
 to terminal client's printer).

If you'd like to send me your file directly, I'll see if I can recreate
the problem.

 
 Thanks in advance.
 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: typographic freaks: footnotes not vertically aligned to last line of body text in following page (as in good typographic style)

2012-12-20 Thread NoOp
On 12/19/2012 08:16 AM, siren wrote:
 in these months Libreoffice gained new useful features and  team has
 fixed many long-time-unsolved bugs
 
 but there is a thing that, if we cannot strictly to define as a BUG, is,
 at least, a  defect regarding the right typography
 
 I mean the behavior of footnotes versus the text body contained in
 subsequent pages
 
 professionally formatted books, look like this
 
 http://tli.tl/m2507H
 
 as you can see, footnotes (last footnote) are perfectly vertically
 aligned with the last line of text in following page
 
 http://tli.tl/0740NZ (zoom in detail)
 
 while if we insert a footnote in OpenOffice/Libreoffice, this is what we get
 
 http://tli.tl/2mfCgT
 
 an horrible difference between footnote and last line of body text that
 result not aligned that makes appereance of documents with footnotes
 very ugly

Sorry, but I'm not seeing what you are. My screenshot:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6830/libreofficefootnotewrit.png

 
 if making this enhancement is not too hard, it will be a great step
 toward dtp for LibreOffice
 

Link to your bug report is where?




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[libreoffice-users] bugzilla report emails are including HTML

2012-12-20 Thread NoOp
No response on the discuss list, so I'll try here.

Why are the emailed bug reports also including HTML?

Example:

 From: bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
 To: ...
 Subject: [Bug 57873] mork (Thunderbird / Icedove / Seamonkey / ...) multi
  address books multi profile support
 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 00:30:51 +

 Message-ID: bug-57873-19433-aydaofm...@http.bugs.freedesktop.org/
 In-Reply-To: bug-57873-19...@http.bugs.freedesktop.org/
 References: bug-57873-19...@http.bugs.freedesktop.org/
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=1355358651.1aebc430.13127; 
 charset=us-ascii

 --1355358651.1aebc430.13127
 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 00:30:51 +
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57873

and now the html:

 --1355358651.1aebc430.13127
 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 00:30:51 +
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
 
 html
 head
   base href=https://bugs.freedesktop.org/; /
 /head
 bodyspan class=vcarda class=email href=mailto:



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[libreoffice-users] Re: typographic freaks: footnotes not vertically aligned to last line of body text in following page (as in good typographic style)

2012-12-20 Thread NoOp
On 12/20/2012 12:27 AM, siren wrote:
 On 20/12/12 Dan Lewis wrote:
  I thought I had seen something about this some time ago either on 
 this mailing list of the A00 mailing list. The topic was Register 
 true.
 [...]
 unfortunately, *register true* does not work in this case and can't help 
 to preserve the right alignement of footnotes with last line of body 
 test in following page. Try to believe
 
 current *register true* feature, only helps to keep together aligned 
 between pages, BODY TEXT in page (only 1 paragraph style). Register true 
 is calculated on a SINGLE PARAGRAPH STYLE, (this is a defective 
 behavior, since if you write citations in smaller body, applying 
 REGISTER TRUE, line spacing will be not coherent with font size)
 
 

It's too bad that you couldn't manage to keep this in a single thread. I
responded in the other thread  provide a screenshot that shows the
footnote in line with the page two text.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: record changes weakness compared to m$

2012-12-19 Thread NoOp
On 12/19/2012 12:26 AM, e-letter wrote:
 Readers,
 
 Have done a bug report on both LO and AOO, about the 'changes' feature
 of the word processor. (It's excellent that there are multiple
...
And the link to that bug report is... ?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: FDF forms

2012-12-18 Thread NoOp
On 12/18/2012 05:56 AM, Malcolm Moore wrote:
 Is there a guide somewhere to making FDF forms with Writer ? 
 I know how to export a document to an FDF but how do I add
 editable fields to the document. ( is this actually possible )

3.4 Writer Guide, Chapter 15:
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/

Might also be of help:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq#Forms
http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Export_as_PDF
Don't forget that you can save a PDF that is editable by LO:
http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Export_as_PDF#Embed_OpenDocument_file
You can practice with the form included in this tutorial:
http://foersom.com/org/HowTo/CreatePdfForm.html




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Numbering issues

2012-12-17 Thread NoOp
On 12/16/2012 09:20 PM, webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:
...
 When selecting:
 
 
 
 Format- Bullets and Numbering-
 Options- Numbering- 壹貳參

 
 The numbers are not consistent. Please
 fix them:

 壹貳參四五六七八九拾拾壹拾貳拾參拾四……

 “參”should
 be “叁”,
 in particular. “四五六七八九”are
 not consistent with the format.
... snip for brevity

I think that you'll have more success with your issue if try one of the
Chinese lists:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists
== http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#Chinese
Also check the Chinese specific LO sites:
http://www.libreoffice.org/international-sites/
Perhaps:
http://zh-cn.libreoffice.org/
==  http://zh-cn.libreoffice.org/help/forum/

And, have a look through the existing bug reports to see if perhaps the
problem has alread been reported:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=chinese




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Re: Value '0000-00-00' can not be represented as java.sql.Date

2012-12-16 Thread NoOp
On 12/15/2012 05:49 PM, receiver wrote:
 Yes, that was something that naturally came to mind so I did try it and 
 it does solve the problem of the zero valued date.  However, my 
 objective is to develop a database file (i.e., .odb) that I can send to 
 a community of users who may lack the technical savvy to wrestle with 
 prerequisite setup requirements.  In this sense ODBC is a bit of a 
 beast.  It seems to rely on something that Windows refers to as data 
 sources which are external to the .odb file.  There are lots of options 
 which would make one think that it should be possible to invest in some 
 extra work when creating the .odb file that makes life simpler for the 
 technically challenged community of users. However, I wasn't able to 
 achieve such a result.  In fact it appears as though LibreOffice Base 
 does not even allow the use of what Windows calls the file type of data 
 source.
 
 Both ODBC and JDBC require my users to have connectors installed.  I 
 haven't yet determined that JDBC is good enough to solve the problem, of 
 having my users know about server connections, but it does look like 
 more of the database (i.e., MySQL server) connection specific setup is 
 confined to the .odb file.  This is why I'd like to make JDBC work.  
 Insofar as zero valued dates seem to be quite natural for a MySQL 
 database one would think that the MySQL supplied Connector J could deal 
 with such more elegantly.
 
 David ...
...

...

This works for me:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/aoo-my-sdbc

May be of interest as your error isn't just a Base problem
:
http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/Base-collapsing-on-MySQL-date-td2787416.html

http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17952_01/refman-5.0-en/cj-news-5-1-11.html

 With the connection string option noDatetimeStringSync set to true, and
server-side prepared statements enabled, the following exception was
generated if an attempt was made to obtain, using ResultSet.getString(),
a datetime value containing all zero components:

java.sql.SQLException: Value '-00-00' can not be represented as
java.sql.Date

(Bug #32525)

http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=32525


https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+%22Value+%27-00-00%27+can+not+be+represented+as+java.sql.Date%22
http://www.openkb.org/mysql-error-javasqlsqlexception-value--00-00/
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=5.1.22+%22Value+%27-00-00%27+can+not+be+represented+as+java.sql.Date%22?






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[libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit

2012-12-16 Thread NoOp
On 12/16/2012 04:52 AM, ptoye wrote:
 Thanks again NoOp. But I think we're at cross-purposes here. I don't need the
 paper labels - they're easily and cheaply available here in England.

That is why I mentioned That said, the shipping + label sheets might
end up costing more than buying local Avery.

 
 What I need is a way of getting LO and/or OO to print the labels correctly
 on the page. I admit that having to use a PDF printer (CutePDF or Bullzip)
 complicates the issue. But it seems odd to me that I get different results
 between LO and OO, and between virtual printers.

Reset your virtual PDF printer(s) for proper A4 settings.

If on Windows I use PDFCreator: http://www.pdfforge.org/

I just tested PDFCreator, CutePDF, Acrobat Professional, LO (3.6.4.3)
export to PDF, AOO (3.4.1) export to PDF (Windows  linux for both). The
A4/L7163 PDF's are identical. I even created a PDF from MS Word 2003 to
Acrobat Professional - same results. However I did notice that printing
from the PDF resulted in all labels shifted to the left by
~1/8inch/0.125in (0.31750cm). The issue had nothing to do with LO, AOO,
Word, PDFCreator, CutePDF etc., the issue was that in Acrobat and Adobe
Reader, I needed to:

1. Set Page Scaling to 'None'
2. Turn off (untick) 'Auto Rotate and Center
2. Turn on (tick) the 'Choose paper source by PDF size

Once I did that, the printed PDF's exactly matched the print directly to
printer copies. So my initial problem was PEBCK.

As for LO: With LO I get the same from both printers: a correctly sized
document. But the pitch is wrong: 9.2 by 3.6 cm instead of 9.9 by 3.8.

You can adjust the pitch easily in the Label|Format setup tab. The
defaults for L7163 are:
Horizontal pitch: 10.16cm
Veritical pitch: 3.81cm

I think you are referring to Width  Height:
Width: 9.91cm
Height: 3.81cm
Left margin: 0.47cm
Top margin: 1.52cm
Columns: 2
Rows: 7
Page Width: 21.00cm
Page Height: 29.70cm

From Help:

Horizontal pitch
Displays the distance between the left edges of adjacent labels or
business cards.

Vertical pitch
Displays the distance between the upper edge of a label or a business
card and the upper edge of the label or the business card directly below.

...




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit

2012-12-15 Thread NoOp
Note: please delimit replys other than yours so that we can tell who
wrote what.

On 12/15/2012 04:13 AM, ptoye wrote:
 Thanks No-op and Don for the advice.
 
 I wasn't 100% plain in stating the problem. All too easy when you know what
 you're talking about!
 
 Firstly, being English I need A4-size rather than 8 by 11 inch page size,

That is why I pointed you to the A4 template size page. The .ott is
L7163 compatible. Note: I see that it uses frames rather than tables, so
my comment regarding tables was incorrect. Apologies.
Also see:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/03/prweb357829.htm
A collection label templates for Writer in a4 paper format for Europe
and Asia has also been released.

The easiest way to test is to put borders on the frames  then print a
sample. Hold the sample up to a L7163 label sheet  see if they match.
This is the way I check all my templates (frame or table) before
committing to a label sheet print. Click on the outline of the first
frame, when selected right-click and select 'Frame', then Borders.
Select the outline border (all four sides)  print.

 and as far as I can see World Label only do US sizes (so why do they call
 themselves Word Label, then, or are the international sizes well buried on
 their web site?).

They have recently had their website redone. My guess is that they've
missed the A4 label section, as they do have a product code for the
labels: WL-SG4663.
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/labels.htm
Do not see the label size you need?

We have hundreds of sizes not listed here and if we dont have it, we can
custom manufacture labels for you. If you need samples to test, please
complete our sample request form.

That said, the shipping + label sheets might end up costing more than
buying local Avery.
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit

2012-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/14/2012 11:12 AM, ptoye wrote:
 Trying to produce labels, but they don't fit the paper! I'm using the
 built-in L7163 address label format.
 
 It's a bit complicated as I don't have a printer attached - I have to make a
 PDF document and print it on another machine. As Export to PDF just gives
 a sheet with the fields names on rather than the filled-in values, I use a
 PDF printer and am getting different (and wrong) PDFs from both OO and LO.
 Interestingly, the results are different between LO and OO, and also between
 the printers I use, so there seems to be a problem with the printer
 interface.
 
 With OO using CutePDF I get a US letter size document (8 by 11 inches),
 using Bullzip I get a document 20.8 by 28.2 cm (a bit smaller than A4). The
 pitches are also wrong.
 
 With LO I get the same from both printers: a correctly sized document. But
 the pitch is wrong: 9.2 by 3.6 cm instead of 9.9 by 3.8.
 
 How on earth can I get OO and/or LO to produce my labels? It's too late for
 my Xmas cards now - I've gone back to an ancient Lotus SmartSuite which
 works perfectly. But won't run on Windows 7 unfortunately. 
...

I think this will help:
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-a4.htm
  http://www.worldlabel.com/Templates/a4/WL-SG3899.ott
That will provide a template (table format) for your labels. You might
consider ordering from Worldlabel... they are the only vendor that I
know of that provide OOo/AOO/LO templates for their products.




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[libreoffice-users] [3.6.4.3] Avery A4 label templates missing

2012-12-14 Thread NoOp
While checking Peter's Trying to get labels to fit I found that my
version of LO (linux):
Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)
is missing all Avery A4 label templates  only the US Letter size
templates are available. Granted my locale is English(US), but I would
think that all label templates would be available in:
New|Labels|Brand: Avery A4|Type:

The interesting part is that I do have the templates available in:
LibreOffice 3.5.7.2
Build ID: 3215f89-f603614-ab984f2-7348103-1225a5

Can anyone else with English(US) locale check to see if they have the same?



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[libreoffice-users] [Disregard] Re: [3.6.4.3] Avery A4 label templates missing

2012-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/14/2012 12:45 PM, NoOp wrote:
 While checking Peter's Trying to get labels to fit I found that my
 version of LO (linux):
 Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)
 is missing all Avery A4 label templates  only the US Letter size
 templates are available. Granted my locale is English(US), but I would
 think that all label templates would be available in:
 New|Labels|Brand: Avery A4|Type:
 
 The interesting part is that I do have the templates available in:
 LibreOffice 3.5.7.2
 Build ID: 3215f89-f603614-ab984f2-7348103-1225a5
 
 Can anyone else with English(US) locale check to see if they have the same?

Checked on 3 other systems (linux  Windows) and the A4 templates are
there. So the issue looks to be a profile issue. Sorry for the noise.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: [3.6.4.3] Avery A4 label templates missing

2012-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/14/2012 04:35 PM, Don Myers wrote:
 Hi NoOp,
 
 I have all sizes. I have the Linux 3.6.4.3 download from the Document 
 Foundation. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10.
 
 Don

Thanks for checking (my version is the same - non-distro), the problem
is my user profile. Seem my [Disregard] Re: [3.6.4.3] Avery A4 label
templates missing post.

Again, Thanks very much for checking.

Gary

 
 
 On 12/14/2012 03:45 PM, NoOp wrote:
 While checking Peter's Trying to get labels to fit I found that my
 version of LO (linux):
 Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)
 is missing all Avery A4 label templates  only the US Letter size
 templates are available. Granted my locale is English(US), but I would
 think that all label templates would be available in:
 New|Labels|Brand: Avery A4|Type:

 The interesting part is that I do have the templates available in:
 LibreOffice 3.5.7.2
 Build ID: 3215f89-f603614-ab984f2-7348103-1225a5

 Can anyone else with English(US) locale check to see if they have the same?



 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit

2012-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/14/2012 04:28 PM, Don Myers wrote:
 Hi ptoye,
 
 About 4 or 5 years ago when doing labels for our Christmas cards, I ran 
 across the table style forms mentioned by NoOp below. I will never go 
 back to the standard frame type forms standard in OO and LO. I've had 
 absolutely no alignment problems. I'll also paste here some assistance 
 if you are using a database to fill out the forms:
 
... snip excellent advise

The good folks at WorldLabel now also include autofill PDF forms for
some (probably their most popular?) of their labels:

http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/autofillpdf-labels.htm#address






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[libreoffice-users] Re: line-thickness of 0, 05pt only possible on Linux machines - not on Win XP (wow!)

2012-12-12 Thread NoOp
On 12/12/2012 01:24 PM, Martin Kaspar wrote:
 Dear Gentlemen,
 
 after various trials i have allmost pulled my hair.
 
 believe me or not. I have astonishing results: i found out a totally
 different behaviour of LibreOffice
 
 terrifying the behavior of LibreOffice depends on various preliminaries
 
 the thickness of the lines of a table varies in a large range:
 
 the same document – we have minimum (!!!) a line-thickness of 0,05pt
 
 on another machine (with a nother operating system , and a slightly
 different libreoffice [see below] i have the thickness of 0,25pt
 
 well that is a crazy thing:
 
 see more – see the related data:
 
 *on penSuse 12.2
 *LibreOffice 3.5:build-403
 Build-ID: 350m1(Build:403)
 
 minimum (!!!) *a line-thickness of 0,05pt *
 
 *on Win XP Professional
 *LibreOffice 3.4.5
 OOO340m1 (Build:502)
 
 minimum (!!!) a* line-thickness of 0,25pt*
 
 this is crazy – but it is true. What do you say!?

I say upgrade your 3.4.5 Windows version. 3.6.x Windows version provides
0.05pt.
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Several address books unavailable to writer and base

2012-12-12 Thread NoOp
On 12/12/2012 07:08 AM, JC wrote:
 I'm trying to register and connect to several address books in Thunderbird 17
 through writer and base (versions 3.6.4.3). However when I tell writer or
 base that I'm looking for a Thunderbird address book, the only available
 address books are the default Personal Address Book and Collected
 Addresses?
...

While checking, I ran across something interesting: I have both
SeaMonkey 2.4.1 and Thunderbird 17 installed. With Version 3.6.4.3 (both
Windows and Linux versions), Base only picks up the SeaMonkey address
book. I test by adding a related address book to each so I can easily
tell (SeaMonkeyTest/ThunderbirdTest) the difference  create separate
.odb's.

SeaMonkey Linux is locate in /home/user/.mozilla/seamonkey. Thunderbird
Linux is located in /home/user/.thunderbird. So there are clear
differences in the address book paths. Does anyone know which LO
module/file/code provides these connectors?

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=base+thunderbird

This looks to be (in my case) the related bug:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39279
[Search for Thunderbird address books uses first ones foundSearch for
Thunderbird address books uses first ones found]


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Several address books unavailable to writer and base

2012-12-12 Thread NoOp
On 12/12/2012 07:08 AM, JC wrote:
 I'm trying to register and connect to several address books in Thunderbird 17
 through writer and base (versions 3.6.4.3). However when I tell writer or
 base that I'm looking for a Thunderbird address book, the only available
 address books are the default Personal Address Book and Collected
 Addresses?

I think is is the relevant bug report:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57873
[mork (Thunderbird / Icedove / Seamonkey / ...) multi address books
multi profile support]


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[libreoffice-users] Re: A Tale of Two Office Suites

2012-12-11 Thread NoOp
On 12/11/2012 02:02 AM, Pedro wrote:
...
 Please think about this: Don't say/write everything that you think, but
 think everything that you say/write
...

I *highly* recommend that you follow your own 'advise'.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: A Tale of Two Office Suites

2012-12-11 Thread NoOp
On 12/11/2012 03:11 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote:
 
 Am 11.12.2012 06:42, schrieb NoOp:
 
 Neither LO or AOO default
 to turning a (c) into a © - (C) does.
 
 My LibreOffice does this by default.
 
 LibreOffice 3.5.4.2
 Build-ID: 350m1(Build:2)
 delivered with Ubuntu 12.04
...

I also have that version installed:
$ locate soffice.bin
/opt/libreoffice3.4/program/soffice.bin
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/soffice.bin
/opt/libreoffice3.6/program/soffice.bin
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin
/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin == Ubuntu version 3.5.4.2

LibreOffice 3.5.4.2
Build ID: 350m1(Build:2)
This product was supplied by The Document Foundation, Debian and Ubuntu.

Interesting, mine does not.
Lowercase (c) = (c)
Uppercase (C) = ©

Note: I've also tested the same on my Windows versions.

I wonder if perhaps it may be due to the lanuguage/local.
$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=





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[libreoffice-users] Re: A Tale of Two Office Suites

2012-12-11 Thread NoOp
On 12/11/2012 04:50 AM, VA wrote:
 Don't misunderstand me.
 
 I'm not upset about having to delete the (c) to copyright symbol option in 
 my autocorrect feature. I appreciate that many people prefer this behavior. 
 I get it that developers have to make choices and they make those choices on 
 the basis of what a majority of users want. That much I get.

Understand. The auto insert symbol most likely goes back to this 2002
OOo bug:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=4579
[Special Character Shortcuts]

The initial definitions for the autocorrect are located in the /autocorr
directory. They are simple ziped .dat files (DocumentList.xml is the
actual file)  probably could be modified  then copied across like a
standard template.

 
 What I don't like is having to do it twice because neither AOO nor LO has 
 all the features I need to get my work done, and that is because, for 
 whatever reasons, the developers of the two office suites either can't or 
 won't combine their efforts.

You might want to look at the archives of the AOO dev list. The early
posts regarding this issue provide an interesting read.

 
 Virgil
 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: NoOp
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:42 AM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: A Tale of Two Office Suites
 
 On 12/10/2012 02:28 PM, VA wrote:
 ...
 Not so with office suites. To get the most out of my office suites, I 
 create
 and edit templates, page, character and paragraph styles. I have to set 
 the
 autocorrect functions of each program to my liking to prevent a (c) from
 turning into a ©. ...
 ...
 
 I wonder what office suites you are using. Neither LO or AOO default
 to turning a (c) into a © - (C) does.
 
 But guess what? Microft Word does it for both... (c) and (C).
 
 Next...
 
 
 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Bug report for LibreOffice 3.6.4.3 on Mac OS X 10.6.8

2012-12-10 Thread NoOp
On 12/09/2012 12:13 PM, Marc Grober wrote:
 With 3.6.3.2 and OSX 10.8.2 selecting two odt files from Finder and
 directing Finder to open both with LO results in a graphic message that
 file1file2 does not exist (suggesting it is concatenating the file
 name?)
 HOWEVER - using the LO menu to open the same multiple odt files works
 without issue.
...

Ah, thanks for clarifying. Being a linux user I wasn't aware of what
Finder is, I do now: https://support.apple.com/kb/ht2470. So I was
testing directly from the LO menu  that works fine.

So for a correction:

If I try the same (select two files in the system file manager and
double-click) on linux using 'Nautilus' (GNOME file manager), only one
file will be opened  no error message. I suspect that this is more an
issue with my 'clicking' than the file manager, as when I select the
files, and use the 'Enter' key on the keyboard, both files open in two
LO windows.

This is not the case with the KDE file manager 'Dolphin'. Trying the
same with 'Dolphin' results in LO opening one file, and the following
error message for the second file:

KDEInit could not launch 'libreoffice':
Could not find 'libreoffice' executable.

The issue is with the file manager, not LO.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: A Tale of Two Office Suites

2012-12-10 Thread NoOp
On 12/10/2012 02:28 PM, VA wrote:
...
 Not so with office suites. To get the most out of my office suites, I create 
 and edit templates, page, character and paragraph styles. I have to set the 
 autocorrect functions of each program to my liking to prevent a (c) from 
 turning into a ©. ...
...

I wonder what office suites you are using. Neither LO or AOO default
to turning a (c) into a © - (C) does.

But guess what? Microft Word does it for both... (c) and (C).

Next...



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Bug report for LibreOffice 3.6.4.3 on Mac OS X 10.6.8

2012-12-09 Thread NoOp
On 12/09/2012 02:22 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
 2012/12/9 Lincoln Ramsay a1291...@gmail.com
 
 I couldn't find a bug report link on LibreOffice.org so I'm sending it
 here.

 Steps to reproduce:

 Navigate to a folder in the Finder that has more than 1 .odt file.
 Select two .odt files.
 Open them (Command + O).

 Expected outcome:
 LibreOffice should open both documents.

 Actual outcome:
 LibreOffice puts up an error dialog with the following message:
 /path/to/document1.odt /path/to/document2.odt does not exist.

 It seems LibreOffice does not correctly handle opening multiple documents
 at once, treating both filenames as one filename (to a file that does not
 exist).

 It does not matter if LibreOffice is running or not. Opening one document
 at a time works as expected, it's only multiple documents that fails. I'm
 not sure if this affects older versions. I may not have attempted to open
 multiple documents until today.
 
 
 Just for the record, I have no difficulty performing the operation
 described above using the Swedish version of LibreOffice 3.6.0.1 on 64-bit
 Ubuntu 12.04
 
 Henri
 

WFM as well:
Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 58f22d5)



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Problem reading Word 2003 document

2012-11-29 Thread NoOp
On 11/29/2012 04:05 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 11/29/2012 08:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:
 Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread nabble as nobble.
 
 Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at 
 the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded from 
 http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.
 ...
 
 Opens fine for me in:
 LO 3.6.3.2
 Linux and Windows.
 
 LO 3.5.4.2
 Linux.
 
 Opens in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (AOO)
 Linux. However right column is screwed up (blank until page 4). Crashed
 AOO 3.4.1 Windows, But opened after recovery - right column screwed in
 Windows version as well.

And just loaded up a new LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 Windows: opens fine in that
version as well.

Recommend that you rename your LO profile and then try. If it works,
then you most likely have an issue with your profile.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice

2012-11-28 Thread NoOp
On 11/28/2012 06:55 AM, VA wrote:
 This is utterly maddening.
 
 Based on Pedro's post, I ran a simple test. I created a document in Word 
 (.docx) and an identical document in LibO (.odt). I saved them both and then 
 extracted their contents using 7-zip Manager. I was amazed at how similar 
 the two document contents were, and yet how different. Neither document had 
 any of the binary smilie faces I've come to expect by opening a .doc 
 document in a text editor. All of the individual files contained formatting 
 codes in simple text. And, yet...
 
 The maddening part is how two programs can create the same type of documents 
 (xml files saved in a zipped format) and yet remain so completely different.
 
 I found similar results when I tried saving .rtf files with different word 
 processors. They all claimed to be .rtf, and in fact, were .rtf, yet they 
 were all different.
 
...

Indeed:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49502
[RTF: opening RTF file failed]

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=RTF


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[libreoffice-users] Re: PDF Importer Problems

2012-11-21 Thread NoOp
On 11/15/2012 04:01 PM, Keith Bates wrote:
 I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and LO 3.6.2.2
 
 Every month or so our church has a music practice which basically 
 involves me reproducing sheet music and word sheets, then adding a 
 photocopying licence number to each piece of music.
 
 Typically I might scan 16 to 20 pages in a session. I am using the 
 program Simple Scan to do this.
 
 In the past it was straight forward to scan the music to a pdf document 
 then use LO pdf importer to add the required text. The last few times I 
 have tried to do this the document just opens as a series of blank 
 pages. I know the pdf is OK because other pdf viewers show it.

IMO LO is the wrong tool. Xournal is ok, but painful. Enable the
universe repository if you haven't already, and then:

$ sudo apt-get install pdftk pdfchain
$ pdfchain

http://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/pdftk.1.html
http://pdfchain.sourceforge.net/
...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Adding .pdf Images to Document

2012-11-20 Thread NoOp
On 11/20/2012 03:17 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
 
 
 NoOp wrote:
...
 You can imagine what viewing the document will be like with multiple EPS
 images...
   
 NoOp,
 I'll second that!  That was exactly my experience with many EPS images 
 in a Writer document I was working on. 
 I had anecdotal evidence, but you state factual evidence (the links).
 Thanks.
 Girvin Herr

I'll have to check on a Windows version to see if the same applies. I
think that it might just be a linux issue as linux uses gs + convert.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Adding .pdf Images to Document

2012-11-19 Thread NoOp
On 11/19/2012 03:23 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
I need to provide a client with a Word version of a report written in
 LaTeX. Exporting the text to LO format works just fine, but all the images
 in the document are .pdf files generated by GRASS or R. I'm having
 difficulty finding how to insert these images in the LO document.

If I need to import a PDF image created from my QGIS/GRASS
applications[1]: File|Open|pdffile and that will open in Draw. Right
click the image and select 'Copy'. Then paste into the Write document.
You can also, of course, open the pdf in Acroread etc., and then just
copy  paste the image into write.

[1] Doesn't really matter what created the PDF image.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?

2012-11-18 Thread NoOp
On 11/18/2012 04:24 AM, Pedro wrote:
 NoOp wrote
 apache.incubator.ooo.user
 and
 documentfoundation.discuss
 
 are probably better.
 
 Actually I think this would fit better on the Discuss forum.
 
 It's not an OpenOffice problem only if you bothered to read the article.

If you had only bothered to *read* my response, you might have noticed:

*and*
*documentfoundation.discuss*

Which part of that do you not understand?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?

2012-11-17 Thread NoOp
On 11/17/2012 11:04 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
 Is this the proper forum to look for an informed discussion concerning what
 seems to be the Frieburg Municipal Council's impending decision to abandon
 OpenOffice and go back to Microsoft Office (
 http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/442330/german_city_says_openoffice_shortcomings_forcing_it_back_microsoft/)
 ?...

apache.incubator.ooo.user
and
documentfoundation.discuss

are probably better.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts

2012-11-02 Thread NoOp
On 11/01/2012 09:42 PM, Jonathan Schultz wrote:
 I got them, thanks.
 
 They are exactly the same as my PDF - the text appears fine but if I 
 copy and paste it then it looks like this: This his the offichial 
 vershion.
 
 Cheers, Jonathan

I just sent you two files; an AOO odt, and an AOO generated PDF.

It is a font issue. I suspect that the non-problem with AOO that VA is
seeing is because AOO does not natively pick up the LO TTF Linux
Libertine G. It didn't even pick it up in ~/.fonts. Instead it will pick
up a Type 1 Linux Libertine O font. I figured this out by looking at the
PDF File|Properties|Font.

I ended up specifically installing the G fonts in AOO 3.5.0; _that_
allowed me to use G TTF instead of O Type 1. Now, when using the G TTF
font I experience the exact same issue as on LO. Moving the cursor from
the 'T' to the 'h' in 'This' causes the cursor to skip directly to 'i'.

Opening the TTF Linux Libertine G font in Fontforge generates these
warnings:

The following table(s) in the font have been ignored by FontForge
  Ignoring 'Feat' SIL Graphite layout feature table
  Ignoring 'Glat' Graphite glyph attribute table
  Ignoring 'Gloc' Graphite glyph location in Glat table
  Ignoring 'Silf' SIL Graphite rule table
  Ignoring 'Sill' (unspecified) SIL Graphite table
The glyph named Tcommaaccent is mapped to U+021A.
  But its name indicates it should be mapped to U+0162.
The glyph named tcommaaccent is mapped to U+021B.
  But its name indicates it should be mapped to U+0163.

I don't know enough about fonts to comment otherwise.

Gary

 
 
 On 02/11/12 15:36, NoOp wrote:
 On 11/01/2012 09:23 PM, Jonathan Schultz wrote:
 Libertine G and Biolinum G fonts have been bundled with LO since LO 3.3:

 So I keep on reading. But apparently not in the Debian or Ubuntu
 distributions(?)

 Perhaps I'm missing the 'graphite' bits? When I follow the instructions
 inhttp://numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.odt   everything matches.

 Are you able to post the PDF that you produce? I'd like to take a look
 at it with some PDF editing tools?

 Sent to you directly. Both the 3.5 and 3.6 versions.





 



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[libreoffice-users] security-related information, CVE-2012-4233

2012-11-02 Thread NoOp
Copied from the Discuss list posting from today:

quote
CVE-2012-4233: Multiple file format denial of service vulnerabilities
Fixed in: LibreOffice 3.5.7/3.6.1

Thanks to High-Tech Bridge for reporting these flaws. Users are
recommended to upgrade to 3.5.7 or 3.6.1 to avoid these flaws

There are fairly mild denial of service (libreoffice just crashes rather
than running off with your credit card) problems.

details:

http://www.libreoffice.org/advisories/cve-2012-4233/
https://www.htbridge.com/advisory/HTB23106
/quote


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts

2012-11-02 Thread NoOp
On 11/02/2012 05:56 PM, VA wrote:
 On the PDF file I generated with AOO, the Properties/Font returned:
 
 LinuxLibertineG (Embedded Subset),
 Type: TrueType,
 Encoding: Built in
 
 On the PDF file I generated with LibO, the Properties/Font returned:
 
 LinuxLibertineG (Embedded Subset),
 Type: TrueType,
 Encoding: Built in
 
 In other words, both PDF files are returning the same font, Linux Libertine 
 G, but the one created with LibO will not find official on a word search, 
 whereas the one created with AOO will. A copy and paste from the LibO/PDF 
 file will produce the offichial spelling, but a copy and paste from the 
 AOO/PDF file will produce official.
 
 Both of my files, whether created with LibO or AOO use the same font, Linux 
 Libertine G. Again, I'm using AOO 3.4.1 and LibO 3.5.7.2 on Win7 and Adobe 
 Reader.
 
 And, most importantly, I don't even have Libertine O installed on my system, 
 so AOO can't be picking it up.
 
 Virgil
...

My apologies: you are correct. I've tested again with LO 3.5, 3.6, and
AOO 3.5.0 and Acroread 9.x (all linux) and found the same. I tested on a
clean system; Linux Libertine O is installed on my primary system from
'fonts-linuxlibertin' (which btw work without issue).

I still think that there is an issue with the font... and also think
it's worth filing an LO bug report.








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[libreoffice-users] Re: Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts

2012-11-01 Thread NoOp
On 10/31/2012 06:57 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 On 10/30/2012 07:52 PM, avidscavenger wrote:
 Thanks for the feedback.

 I am currently using LibreOffice 3.6.3 from the Debian experimental
 repository. I just updated from version 3.5.4 from the Debian unstable
 repository to see if it would make a difference (it didn't). Debian doesn't
 package the Graphite fonts so I have downloaded and installed them from
 http://numbertext.org/linux/

 I have tried other methods for generating PDFs - both CUPS-PDF and
 Print-to-file. These methods produced PDFs that looked the same but had no
 text encoding - ie not searchable or text-selectable.

 The printed version is perfect in every case. My concern is to generate a
 PDF that both looks perfect and is searchable.

 I am attaching the relevant files following Tom's instructions.

 Thanks!
 Jonathan

 test.odt http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4016027/test.odt
 test.pdf http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4016027/test.pdf

 Sorry but I cannot get the results you have.
 I use 3.5.7 from LO's site and the fonts are from wherever since I do 
 not know if I got them from LO or from some other source.

LibreOffice 3.5.7.1
Build ID: 3fa2330-e49ffd2-90d118b-705e248-051e21c

Version 3.6.2.2 (Build ID: da8c1e6)

Both linux (.deb versions).

$ apt-cache policy fonts-linuxlibertine
fonts-linuxlibertine:
  Installed: 5.1.3-1
  Candidate: 5.1.3-1
  Version table:
 *** 5.1.3-1 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
$ apt-cache policy ttf-linux-libertine
ttf-linux-libertine:
  Installed: 5.1.3-1
  Candidate: 5.1.3-1
  Version table:
 *** 5.1.3-1 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
$ apt-cache policy texlive-fonts-extra
texlive-fonts-extra:
  Installed: 2009-10ubuntu1
  Candidate: 2009-10ubuntu1
  Version table:
 *** 2009-10ubuntu1 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Libertine G and Biolinum G fonts have been bundled with LO since LO 3.3:

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-3-new-features-and-fixes/

I extract the
http://www.numbertext.org/linux/e7a384790b13c29113e22e596ade9687-LinLibertineG-20120116.zip;
file that the OP refers to http://numbertext.org/linux/, and find that
the fonts are .ttf. They are the same one's that are bundled with LO:

$ ls /home/gl/tempdir/testing/LinLibertineG
ChangeLog LinBiolinum_R_G.ttf LinLibertine_R_G.ttf
origfiles
doc   LinBiolinum_RI_G.ttfLinLibertine_RI_G.ttf   README
GPL.txt   LinLibertine_DR_G.ttf   LinLibertine_RZ_G.ttf   src
LICENCE.txt   LinLibertine_RB_G.ttf   LinLibertine_RZI_G.ttf
LinBiolinum_RB_G.ttf  LinLibertine_RBI_G.ttf  OFL.txt

$ locate LinBiolinum_R_G.ttf
/opt/libreoffice3.5/share/fonts/truetype/LinBiolinum_R_G.ttf
/opt/libreoffice3.6/share/fonts/truetype/LinBiolinum_R_G.ttf

$ locate LinLibertine_R_G.ttf
/opt/libreoffice3.5/share/fonts/truetype/LinLibertine_R_G.ttf
/opt/libreoffice3.6/share/fonts/truetype/LinLibertine_R_G.ttf

Perhaps I'm missing the 'graphite' bits? When I follow the instructions
in http://numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.odt everything matches.




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