Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-31 Thread Adam Tauno Williams 
> Well, if you have very long document, you should consider using
> Master Document where you write every chapter in separate document
> and Master  Document acts as container. You don't edit Master
> Document, you just  print it.

+1  This is the answer for managing large documents - the same applies
for M$-Office.

I switched to using Master Documents years ago; it is a much better
experience, and makes editing or change tracking easier.  I don't know
why anyone would not do this.

It is also possible to export the master document to an ODT (single
file) which is often nice for final review.
-- 
Meetings Coordinator, Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers
537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010
E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 Web: http://www.marp.org

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-31 Thread Jack Wallen 
On 10/31/2017 08:45 AM, Krunose wrote:
>
> Think Heiko is talking about thous bug two reports he sent earlier:
>
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61558
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38295
>
> Placing comment with actual (even partial) solution can help with
> fixing this. More people affected, better chance for that particular
> bug to be fixed.
Will do! Thank you.

>
>
>

-- 


  Jack Wallen

Author of dark, twisty fiction
Tech writer for TechRepublic , Linux.com
, and more.
Get Jack'd at jackwallen.com 

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-31 Thread Krunose 

On 30.10.2017 22:14, Jack Wallen wrote:

On 10/30/2017 04:44 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote:

Would be good when you add a comment to the ticket "me too" and report what 
helped.

On 30.10.2017 21:26, Jack Wallen wrote:

I will say this configuration only made the document usable. It's not
ideal and still really sluggish scroll through the document. What I did
was open up LO, click on Menu > Tools > Options and then configure
Memory with the following settings:

Use for LibreOffice 512 MB
Memory per object 40 MB

Even with those numbers, LO Writer is still a bit challenging to use
(albeit much improved over the default).


Think Heiko is talking about thous bug two reports he sent earlier:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61558
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38295

Placing comment with actual (even partial) solution can help with fixing 
this. More people affected, better chance for that particular bug to be 
fixed.


Kruno





On 10/30/2017 04:15 PM, jorge Rodríguez wrote:

Hi Jack and all:

         Why not probe increasing memory to LibreOffice Writer:

         Menu--> Tools --> Options --> Memory

I hope this help,

Jorge Rodríguez

Thank you so much, Jorge. That actually helped considerably.

El 30/10/2017 a las 07:41, Jack Wallen escribió:

I'm an author. I've been using LO for a very long time. However,
recently I changed editors to one who does all of her editing within
comments. Yesterday I opened the file she'd just edited, to find it
unusable. Trying to scroll through the document was painfully slow. I
saved the file to .docx format, opened in Apple Pages, and it had no
problems.

I did a bit of searching to find this a common issue with LO (documents
with hundreds or thousands of comments becoming unusable). Thing is, I
could not find a work-around. Is this going to be the deal breaker, or
is there a solution for this issue?

Thank you so much for any input anyone might have.

Jack




--
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-30 Thread Jack Wallen 
On 10/30/2017 04:44 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> Would be good when you add a comment to the ticket "me too" and report what 
> helped.
>
> On 30.10.2017 21:26, Jack Wallen wrote:
I will say this configuration only made the document usable. It's not
ideal and still really sluggish scroll through the document. What I did
was open up LO, click on Menu > Tools > Options and then configure
Memory with the following settings:

Use for LibreOffice 512 MB
Memory per object 40 MB

Even with those numbers, LO Writer is still a bit challenging to use
(albeit much improved over the default).

>> On 10/30/2017 04:15 PM, jorge Rodríguez wrote:
>>> Hi Jack and all:
>>>
>>>         Why not probe increasing memory to LibreOffice Writer:
>>>
>>>         Menu--> Tools --> Options --> Memory
>>>
>>> I hope this help,
>>>
>>> Jorge Rodríguez
>> Thank you so much, Jorge. That actually helped considerably.
>>>
>>> El 30/10/2017 a las 07:41, Jack Wallen escribió:
 I'm an author. I've been using LO for a very long time. However,
 recently I changed editors to one who does all of her editing within
 comments. Yesterday I opened the file she'd just edited, to find it
 unusable. Trying to scroll through the document was painfully slow. I
 saved the file to .docx format, opened in Apple Pages, and it had no
 problems.

 I did a bit of searching to find this a common issue with LO (documents
 with hundreds or thousands of comments becoming unusable). Thing is, I
 could not find a work-around. Is this going to be the deal breaker, or
 is there a solution for this issue?

 Thank you so much for any input anyone might have.

 Jack

>>>

-- 


  Jack Wallen

Author of dark, twisty fiction
Tech writer for TechRepublic , Linux.com
, and more.
Get Jack'd at jackwallen.com 

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-30 Thread Heiko Tietze 
Would be good when you add a comment to the ticket "me too" and report what 
helped.

On 30.10.2017 21:26, Jack Wallen wrote:
> On 10/30/2017 04:15 PM, jorge Rodríguez wrote:
>> Hi Jack and all:
>>
>>         Why not probe increasing memory to LibreOffice Writer:
>>
>>         Menu--> Tools --> Options --> Memory
>>
>> I hope this help,
>>
>> Jorge Rodríguez
> Thank you so much, Jorge. That actually helped considerably.
>>
>>
>> El 30/10/2017 a las 07:41, Jack Wallen escribió:
>>> I'm an author. I've been using LO for a very long time. However,
>>> recently I changed editors to one who does all of her editing within
>>> comments. Yesterday I opened the file she'd just edited, to find it
>>> unusable. Trying to scroll through the document was painfully slow. I
>>> saved the file to .docx format, opened in Apple Pages, and it had no
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> I did a bit of searching to find this a common issue with LO (documents
>>> with hundreds or thousands of comments becoming unusable). Thing is, I
>>> could not find a work-around. Is this going to be the deal breaker, or
>>> is there a solution for this issue?
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for any input anyone might have.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>
>>
> 

-- 
Dr. Heiko Tietze
UX designer
Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509


-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-30 Thread Jack Wallen 
On 10/30/2017 04:15 PM, jorge Rodríguez wrote:
> Hi Jack and all:
>
>         Why not probe increasing memory to LibreOffice Writer:
>
>         Menu--> Tools --> Options --> Memory
>
> I hope this help,
>
> Jorge Rodríguez
Thank you so much, Jorge. That actually helped considerably.
>
>
> El 30/10/2017 a las 07:41, Jack Wallen escribió:
>> I'm an author. I've been using LO for a very long time. However,
>> recently I changed editors to one who does all of her editing within
>> comments. Yesterday I opened the file she'd just edited, to find it
>> unusable. Trying to scroll through the document was painfully slow. I
>> saved the file to .docx format, opened in Apple Pages, and it had no
>> problems.
>>
>> I did a bit of searching to find this a common issue with LO (documents
>> with hundreds or thousands of comments becoming unusable). Thing is, I
>> could not find a work-around. Is this going to be the deal breaker, or
>> is there a solution for this issue?
>>
>> Thank you so much for any input anyone might have.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>
>

-- 


  Jack Wallen

Author of dark, twisty fiction
Tech writer for TechRepublic , Linux.com
, and more.
Get Jack'd at jackwallen.com 

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-30 Thread jorge Rodríguez 

Hi Jack and all:

        Why not probe increasing memory to LibreOffice Writer:

        Menu--> Tools --> Options --> Memory

I hope this help,

Jorge Rodríguez


El 30/10/2017 a las 07:41, Jack Wallen escribió:

I'm an author. I've been using LO for a very long time. However,
recently I changed editors to one who does all of her editing within
comments. Yesterday I opened the file she'd just edited, to find it
unusable. Trying to scroll through the document was painfully slow. I
saved the file to .docx format, opened in Apple Pages, and it had no
problems.

I did a bit of searching to find this a common issue with LO (documents
with hundreds or thousands of comments becoming unusable). Thing is, I
could not find a work-around. Is this going to be the deal breaker, or
is there a solution for this issue?

Thank you so much for any input anyone might have.

Jack




--
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-30 Thread Heiko Tietze 
There are at least two bug reports, you may find many more.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61558
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38295

If those don't fit just file another issue.

To my knowledge there is no good workaround. You could try the Navigator which 
has a section for comments. 

On 30.10.2017 16:40, Jack Wallen wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/30/2017 11:26 AM, Krunose wrote:
>> On 30.10.2017 14:41, Jack Wallen wrote:
>>> I'm an author. I've been using LO for a very long time. However,
>>> recently I changed editors to one who does all of her editing within
>>> comments. Yesterday I opened the file she'd just edited, to find it
>>> unusable. Trying to scroll through the document was painfully slow. I
>>> saved the file to .docx format, opened in Apple Pages, and it had no
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> I did a bit of searching to find this a common issue with LO (documents
>>> with hundreds or thousands of comments becoming unusable). Thing is, I
>>> could not find a work-around. Is this going to be the deal breaker, or
>>> is there a solution for this issue?
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for any input anyone might have.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>
>> Well, if you have very long document, you should consider using Master
>> Document where you write every chapter in separate document and Master
>> Document acts as container. You don't edit Master Document, you just
>> print it.
>>
>> Having long text splitted in smaller chunks may help you with the
>> problem. Just remember to send all chapters (as separate documents) to
>> your editor.
>>
>> Consult documentation about this.
>>
>> Kruno
>>
>>
> Kruno, thank you for your input. Unfortunately, that isn't really an
> option. Any editor I've worked with would lose their minds having to
> manage a separate document for each chapter. On top of that, considering
> neither Apple Pages or MS Office has no problem with this, I'd like to
> think the LO developers could resolve such an issue. A work around for a
> long document with comments shouldn't be necessary.
> 

-- 
Dr. Heiko Tietze
UX designer
Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509


-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-30 Thread Jack Wallen 


On 10/30/2017 11:26 AM, Krunose wrote:
> On 30.10.2017 14:41, Jack Wallen wrote:
>> I'm an author. I've been using LO for a very long time. However,
>> recently I changed editors to one who does all of her editing within
>> comments. Yesterday I opened the file she'd just edited, to find it
>> unusable. Trying to scroll through the document was painfully slow. I
>> saved the file to .docx format, opened in Apple Pages, and it had no
>> problems.
>>
>> I did a bit of searching to find this a common issue with LO (documents
>> with hundreds or thousands of comments becoming unusable). Thing is, I
>> could not find a work-around. Is this going to be the deal breaker, or
>> is there a solution for this issue?
>>
>> Thank you so much for any input anyone might have.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>
> Well, if you have very long document, you should consider using Master
> Document where you write every chapter in separate document and Master
> Document acts as container. You don't edit Master Document, you just
> print it.
>
> Having long text splitted in smaller chunks may help you with the
> problem. Just remember to send all chapters (as separate documents) to
> your editor.
>
> Consult documentation about this.
>
> Kruno
>
>
Kruno, thank you for your input. Unfortunately, that isn't really an
option. Any editor I've worked with would lose their minds having to
manage a separate document for each chapter. On top of that, considering
neither Apple Pages or MS Office has no problem with this, I'd like to
think the LO developers could resolve such an issue. A work around for a
long document with comments shouldn't be necessary.

-- 


  Jack Wallen

Author of dark, twisty fiction
Tech writer for TechRepublic , Linux.com
, and more.
Get Jack'd at jackwallen.com 

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-30 Thread Krunose 

On 30.10.2017 14:41, Jack Wallen wrote:

I'm an author. I've been using LO for a very long time. However,
recently I changed editors to one who does all of her editing within
comments. Yesterday I opened the file she'd just edited, to find it
unusable. Trying to scroll through the document was painfully slow. I
saved the file to .docx format, opened in Apple Pages, and it had no
problems.

I did a bit of searching to find this a common issue with LO (documents
with hundreds or thousands of comments becoming unusable). Thing is, I
could not find a work-around. Is this going to be the deal breaker, or
is there a solution for this issue?

Thank you so much for any input anyone might have.

Jack



Well, if you have very long document, you should consider using Master 
Document where you write every chapter in separate document and Master 
Document acts as container. You don't edit Master Document, you just 
print it.


Having long text splitted in smaller chunks may help you with the 
problem. Just remember to send all chapters (as separate documents) to 
your editor.


Consult documentation about this.

Kruno


--
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted

[libreoffice-users] LO 5.4 unusable with large document including comments

2017-10-30 Thread Jack Wallen 
I'm an author. I've been using LO for a very long time. However,
recently I changed editors to one who does all of her editing within
comments. Yesterday I opened the file she'd just edited, to find it
unusable. Trying to scroll through the document was painfully slow. I
saved the file to .docx format, opened in Apple Pages, and it had no
problems.

I did a bit of searching to find this a common issue with LO (documents
with hundreds or thousands of comments becoming unusable). Thing is, I
could not find a work-around. Is this going to be the deal breaker, or
is there a solution for this issue?

Thank you so much for any input anyone might have.

Jack

-- 


  Jack Wallen

Author of dark, twisty fiction
Tech writer for TechRepublic , Linux.com
, and more.
Get Jack'd at jackwallen.com 

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted