Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with LO Forms

2017-02-17 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi Ian,
> 
> But I'm confused. The Handbook says Calc can be used as the
> datasource for a Form in Writer.

Don't know which Handbook you mean. The Handbook Base says:

- -
Calc or Excel spreadsheets can also be used as the table source for
databases. If, however, a Calc spreadsheet is used, no editing of the
table data will be possible.
- -

Could be the translation from German to English isn't clear enough,
but I haven't written anywhere in German Base-Handbuch you could use a
spreadsheet for data-input in Base or by a form in Writer.
> 
> Everyone else wants me to use Base but I'm NOT interested in this
> at all as I battled with it for 7 years and could never get a
> stable set-up. It crashed frequently and usually took all the data
> with it or 'gabbled' the data - so you spend more time with back
> ups and patching damaged data records. I can not let the end user
> have such an unstable program to work with. I hoped the Calc/Writer
> Form would prove more reliable.

I have created many databases, also with the internal HSQLDB. While
creating reports I got some troubles, but the users seem to have no
troubles for a long time with these databases.

For professional use I would prefer an external database like MySQL,
connected with Base.

You could use an external database also. If a spreadsheet will save
the data you need, a dBase-file will do this also.

Regards

Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with LO Forms

2017-02-16 Thread Ian Whitfield

Thanks Guys - Appreciated!!

But I'm confused. The Handbook says Calc can be used as the datasource 
for a Form in Writer.
But even Alexander's method still gives me no option to select the 
Registered Spreadsheet (The options box remains empty)!!


The other replies tell me Calc can _NOT_ do this (But the Handbook says 
it can!!??)


Everyone else wants me to use Base but I'm NOT interested in this at all 
as I battled with it for 7 years and could never get a stable set-up. It 
crashed frequently and usually took all the data with it or 'gabbled' 
the data - so you spend more time with back ups and patching damaged 
data records. I can not let the end user have such an unstable program 
to work with. I hoped the Calc/Writer Form would prove more reliable.


So if this can not work I'll have to move to Kexi which is rock solid,

With best regards

IanW
Pretoria RSA




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with LO Forms

2017-02-16 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky

Sorry, I wasn't being clear.

On the webpage at: 
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Importing_and_Exporting_Data_in_Base 
you  will find:


*Importing data to Base*
*You can import* text files, *spreadsheet files*, and your system 
address book in read-only mode only.
*When you import from a* text or*spreadsheet file, the file must have a 
first row of header information. The second row of the file is the first 
valid data row. The format of every field in the second row determines 
the format for the entire column. Any format information from a 
spreadsheet file gets lost when importing to Base.*
 For example, to ensure the first column has a text format, you 
must make sure that the first field of the first valid data row contains 
text. If a field in the first valid data row contains a number, the 
whole column is set to number format, and only numbers, no text, will be 
shown in that column.


*Open a Base file of the database type that you want.*
Either create a new Base file using the Database Wizard, or open 
any existing Base file that is not read-only.
*Open the Calc file that contains the data to be imported to Base*. You 
can open a *.dbf dBASE file or many other file types.

*Select the data to be copied to Base*.
You can enter a range reference like A1:X500 in the Name Box if you 
don't want to scroll.
If you copy a dBASE sheet, include the top row that contains the 
header data.

*Choose Edit - Copy*.
*In the Base window, click Tables to view the tables.**
**In the Base window, choose Edit - Paste.*
*You see the Copy Table dialog. Most databases need a primary key, so 
you may want to check the Create primary key box.**

*
On Windows systems, you can also use drag-and-drop instead of Copy 
and Paste. Also, for registered databases, you can open the datasource 
browser (press F4) instead of opening the Base window.




On 2/16/2017 12:00 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
See 
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Importing_and_Exporting_Data_in_Base 
to do this.



On 2/16/2017 11:52 AM, Robert Großkopf wrote:

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Hi Ian,

I have a Spreadsheet of Data and I have prepared a Form in Writer
to display and edit this information.

This won't work. You can't use a a table in Calc as a database and
edit this data in a form of the database or in a form of wirter.
Tables of a spreadsheet aren't editable in Base, You could only search
througt that data, filter them but can't change them.

Regards

Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with LO Forms

2017-02-16 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi Paul,

Am 16.02.2017 um 18:00 schrieb Paul D. Mirowsky:
> See 
> https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Importing_and_Exporting_Data_in_Ba
se
>
> 
to do this.

This won't help. The Calc-file is the content of the database. Data
haven't been exported into Base or something else (Firebird ...). So
Ian has first to export the data- and I don't know if he doesn't need
the contact to Calc for the data any more.
> 
> 
> On 2/16/2017 11:52 AM, Robert Großkopf wrote: Hi Ian,
 I have a Spreadsheet of Data and I have prepared a Form in
 Writer to display and edit this information.
> This won't work. You can't use a a table in Calc as a database and 
> edit this data in a form of the database or in a form of wirter. 
> Tables of a spreadsheet aren't editable in Base, You could only
> search througt that data, filter them but can't change them.
> 
Regards

Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with LO Forms

2017-02-16 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky
See 
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Importing_and_Exporting_Data_in_Base 
to do this.



On 2/16/2017 11:52 AM, Robert Großkopf wrote:

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Hi Ian,

I have a Spreadsheet of Data and I have prepared a Form in Writer
to display and edit this information.

This won't work. You can't use a a table in Calc as a database and
edit this data in a form of the database or in a form of wirter.
Tables of a spreadsheet aren't editable in Base, You could only search
througt that data, filter them but can't change them.

Regards

Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with LO Forms

2017-02-16 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi Ian,
> 
> I have a Spreadsheet of Data and I have prepared a Form in Writer
> to display and edit this information.

This won't work. You can't use a a table in Calc as a database and
edit this data in a form of the database or in a form of wirter.
Tables of a spreadsheet aren't editable in Base, You could only search
througt that data, filter them but can't change them.

Regards

Robert
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