Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
LibreOffice can already be themed and there are quite a lot out there
already.  Tim of Kracked Press made at least one.  You can use Firefox ones
but they call them Personas.  There are already a couple of space ones
but i think Jorge's is really fantastic and would be a good addition to
them.

Wrt serious and corporate vs private - i don't think anyone was really
suggesting that private users are any less serious.  I'm sure we have all
seen some private individuals being much more serious or dedicated where
corporates maybe sometimes lose their focus sometimes.  It's just difficult
to express the differences between private and more public use.  Private
usage may sometimes allow people to be more expressive and personalise
things a lot more without having to fit in with other people's
peculiarities.

Yes, great idea about possibly using Jorge's concept for a poster too.
There are a lot of events of widely varying scale and this concept might be
good for one of them or for something else Jorge might be involved in.

Regards from
Tom :)




On 21 April 2015 at 22:45, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:

 Hi James,

 James E Lang wrote on 21-04-15 22:17:

  IMO a design like this would be acceptable in a private user
  environment but not in many corporate environments.

 I would not dare to suggest to take private users less serious than
 corporate users.

  Maybe LibreOffice could consider offering two themes.

 Apart from that, it adds hassle in production and organising, confusion
 maybe in getting, introduces communication issues, reduces recognition..

 Sorry, I would definitely say no to this :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-21 Thread Cor Nouws
jorge wrote on 21-04-15 18:28:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Design_White_Board-LibreOffice.png

Thanks for your work on this Jorge.
But IMO a design for our needs must be more cute, straight and so.
Yours look more as an idea for a poster - so I would suggest to keep and
improve it for such an opportunity.

Regards,
Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-21 Thread jorge
Hi Cor and all:

Ok, I'm going to think ...

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El mar, 21-04-2015 a las 21:16 +0200, Cor Nouws escribió:
 jorge wrote on 21-04-15 18:28:
 
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Design_White_Board-LibreOffice.png
 
 Thanks for your work on this Jorge.
 But IMO a design for our needs must be more cute, straight and so.
 Yours look more as an idea for a poster - so I would suggest to keep and
 improve it for such an opportunity.
 
 Regards,
 Cor
 
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-21 Thread James E Lang
Cor and Jorge,

IMO a design like this would be acceptable in a private user environment but 
not in many corporate environments. Maybe LibreOffice could consider offering 
two themes.


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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the 
horizion

jorge wrote on 21-04-15 18:28:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Design_White_Board-LibreOffice.png

Thanks for your work on this Jorge.
But IMO a design for our needs must be more cute, straight and so.
Yours look more as an idea for a poster - so I would suggest to keep and
improve it for such an opportunity.

Regards,
Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi James,

James E Lang wrote on 21-04-15 22:17:

 IMO a design like this would be acceptable in a private user
 environment but not in many corporate environments. 

I would not dare to suggest to take private users less serious than
corporate users.

 Maybe LibreOffice could consider offering two themes.

Apart from that, it adds hassle in production and organising, confusion
maybe in getting, introduces communication issues, reduces recognition..

Sorry, I would definitely say no to this :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-21 Thread jorge
Hi Jim, Cor and all:

Yes, it would be a good idea, thank you,

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez



El mar, 21-04-2015 a las 13:17 -0700, James E Lang escribió:
 Cor and Jorge,
 
 IMO a design like this would be acceptable in a private user environment but 
 not in many corporate environments. Maybe LibreOffice could consider offering 
 two themes.
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl
 To: jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com
 Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 12:18
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the 
 horizion
 
 jorge wrote on 21-04-15 18:28:
 
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Design_White_Board-LibreOffice.png
 
 Thanks for your work on this Jorge.
 But IMO a design for our needs must be more cute, straight and so.
 Yours look more as an idea for a poster - so I would suggest to keep and
 improve it for such an opportunity.
 
 Regards,
 Cor
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-21 Thread jorge
Hi all:

I've modified the first suggestion of WhiteBoard design for Libre
Office 5.0. I include the thumbnail as Stuart request, and licence and
description of artwork:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Design_White_Board-LibreOffice.png

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez





El dom, 12-04-2015 a las 10:42 -0700, V Stuart Foote escribió:
 Jorge Rodríguez
 
 Thank you for submitting.
 
 I've uploaded your proposed StartCenter mockup to the Wiki--please log-in
 there (create an account if you do not already have one) and adjust the
 licensing and description for your artwork.
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding
 
 Also, please consider that in your mockup, you appear to have eliminated the
 thumbnail view of recently used documents. That is a critical design element
 that can not be removed.  So, your design needs additional work.
 
 You'll need to rework  your mockup to show where thumbnail views and
 templates would be presented.
 
 Stuart
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-14 Thread Sophie
Hi Stuart,
Le 13/04/2015 20:01, V Stuart Foote a écrit :
 @Sophie,
 
 Happy to do what I can to move this along with both Design (I'm a member)
 and the Marketing teams.
 
 After last weeks Design meeting, Kendy was going to approach
 Marketing--specifically regards status of the LibreOffice Tango based icons
 as branding ---
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg

 And, as well to propose contest for Visual design and Branding for
 5.0--don't know where that stands.
 
 Opening the stub on the Design Wiki  just gets it all moving--I hope ;-)
 
 But, I did poke Italo in his LibreOffice 5.0 Visual Identity task on the
 LibreOffice Marketing Redmine site.

Great, thanks a lot for coordinating, everybody is in the loop :)
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-14 Thread toki kantoor


On April 13, 2015 7:31:03 AM PDT, V Stuart Foote wrote:
jonathon wrote
 For some of us, those thumbnails are a security flaw.
And all cleared with a single menu button click.  So, it never has been a 
flaw--rather as designed 

Even with the ability to clear with a single menu click, there are user-cases 
were that remains a security flaw.(I'm hoping an extension can overide that 
fuctionality.)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-14 Thread libreoffice-ml . mbourne

toki kantoor wrote:



On April 13, 2015 7:31:03 AM PDT, V Stuart Foote wrote:

jonathon wrote

For some of us, those thumbnails are a security flaw.

And all cleared with a single menu button click.  So, it never has been a 
flaw--rather as designed


Even with the ability to clear with a single menu click, there are user-cases 
were that remains a security flaw.(I'm hoping an extension can overide that 
fuctionality.)

jonathon


A quick search turned up a feature request:
  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74834
so the concerns are known and an option requested.

And a couple of possible workarounds...

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74834#c11
Sets the history list size to 0, so no thumbnails, but nothing under 
File  Recent Documents either. If you're really concerned about 
security / privacy, that's probably what you want anyway since listing 
file names has the potential to reveal information.


http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/29139/can-the-new-start-screen-in-v42-be-reverted-to-that-in-v41/?answer=36673#post-id-36673
Nars gives a hack to hide the thumbnails. I haven't tried it. As noted, 
it's editing one of the main installation files so will affect all 
users. You probably also need administrator/root access to edit that 
file, and may need to re-do that customisation after installing updates.


Hopefully there's something useful there.

Mark.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Yup, we are all loopy ;))

The weather where i am is unbelievably fantastic.  Just a couple weeks ago
i was wearing tons of layers and huge gloves and still shivering in the
cold.  Now i've got the windows open and listening to the birds making a
right racket (in a good way).  I hope it is good where all of you are too
:)

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)  on a lazily warm day




On 14 April 2015 at 08:28, Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Stuart,
 Le 13/04/2015 20:01, V Stuart Foote a écrit :
  @Sophie,
 
  Happy to do what I can to move this along with both Design (I'm a member)
  and the Marketing teams.
 
  After last weeks Design meeting, Kendy was going to approach
  Marketing--specifically regards status of the LibreOffice Tango based
 icons
  as branding ---
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg
  And, as well to propose contest for Visual design and Branding for
  5.0--don't know where that stands.
 
  Opening the stub on the Design Wiki  just gets it all moving--I hope ;-)
 
  But, I did poke Italo in his LibreOffice 5.0 Visual Identity task on
 the
  LibreOffice Marketing Redmine site.

 Great, thanks a lot for coordinating, everybody is in the loop :)
 Cheers
 Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-13 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 13/04/15 20:01, V Stuart Foote wrote:

 But, I did poke Italo in his LibreOffice 5.0 Visual Identity task on the
 LibreOffice Marketing Redmine site.

I have just looked at Redmine, and I will reply ASAP. I do not have a
quick answer to the question, so I am trying to elaborate a bit before
providing my opinion.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-13 Thread jorge
Hi Tom:

Thank you

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El lun, 13-04-2015 a las 17:33 +0100, Tom Davies escribió:
 Hi :)
 +1
 Also hoping we get some other new great themes developing as a side-effect
 but i think the focus needs to be on the opportunity at hand.
 
 Thanks Jorge, for setting the bar so high! :)
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 On 13 April 2015 at 15:31, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote:
 
  jonathon-4 wrote
   For some of us, those thumbnails are a security flaw.
 
  And all cleared with a single menu button click.  So, it never has been a
  flaw--rather as designed ;-)
 
  Otherwise, hoping to see some great artwork and visual design suggestions
  from the user community.
 
  Stuart
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-13 Thread jorge
Hi all:

Thank you, excuse me but I haven't match that word with that
perfomance. It is clear now.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez



El dom, 12-04-2015 a las 20:29 -0700, V Stuart Foote escribió:
 The thumbnail views are iconic representations of the documents that have
 recently been opened and are listed on the File - Recent Documents listing.
 
 As circled in red in this screen clip...
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4146081/StartCenter_master_with_recentDocumentThumbnailViews.jpg
  
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-13 Thread jorge
Hi Bill:

Thank you for the information

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El lun, 13-04-2015 a las 05:26 -0400, William Drago escribió:
 The thumbnail view of recently used docs is one of the 
 things that I LOVE about LibreOffice. To hear that it is a 
 critical design element
 that can not be removed is wonderful news to me.
 
 Thanks,
 -Bill
 
 On 4/12/2015 1:42 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
  Jorge Rodríguez
 
  Thank you for submitting.
 
  I've uploaded your proposed StartCenter mockup to the Wiki--please log-in
  there (create an account if you do not already have one) and adjust the
  licensing and description for your artwork.
 
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding
 
  Also, please consider that in your mockup, you appear to have eliminated the
  thumbnail view of recently used documents. That is a critical design element
  that can not be removed.  So, your design needs additional work.
 
  You'll need to rework  your mockup to show where thumbnail views and
  templates would be presented.
 
  Stuart
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-13 Thread William Drago
The thumbnail view of recently used docs is one of the 
things that I LOVE about LibreOffice. To hear that it is a 
critical design element

that can not be removed is wonderful news to me.

Thanks,
-Bill

On 4/12/2015 1:42 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Jorge Rodríguez

Thank you for submitting.

I've uploaded your proposed StartCenter mockup to the Wiki--please log-in
there (create an account if you do not already have one) and adjust the
licensing and description for your artwork.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding

Also, please consider that in your mockup, you appear to have eliminated the
thumbnail view of recently used documents. That is a critical design element
that can not be removed.  So, your design needs additional work.

You'll need to rework  your mockup to show where thumbnail views and
templates would be presented.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think, but i could easily be wrong, that there is not much point in
taking the mock-up much further.

I think people can see enough of the concept from what is there already and
i'm sure a lot of people would have input tweaking this-or-that detail.
Also i suspect that TDF probably wouldn't want to go in this direction for
the main theming of LO - although i suspect that it would make an extremely
popular theme to add to LO.
Regards from
Tom :)





On 13 April 2015 at 04:29, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote:

 The thumbnail views are iconic representations of the documents that have
 recently been opened and are listed on the File - Recent Documents
 listing.

 As circled in red in this screen clip...
 
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4146081/StartCenter_master_with_recentDocumentThumbnailViews.jpg
 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-13 Thread toki kantoor
William wrote:

To hear that it is a critical design element that can nit be removed is 
wonderful news to me.

For some of us, those thumbnails are a security flaw.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
Also hoping we get some other new great themes developing as a side-effect
but i think the focus needs to be on the opportunity at hand.

Thanks Jorge, for setting the bar so high! :)
Regards from
Tom :)




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 jonathon-4 wrote
  For some of us, those thumbnails are a security flaw.

 And all cleared with a single menu button click.  So, it never has been a
 flaw--rather as designed ;-)

 Otherwise, hoping to see some great artwork and visual design suggestions
 from the user community.

 Stuart





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-12 Thread jorge
Hi Stuart and all:

Thank you very much. I'm not shure about what the meaning of
thumbnail in this case ... would you please explain me or somebody
else ?

Of curse I'm going to rework with templates and thumbnail and licensing
and description for my artwork with pleasure, and create the account.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

El dom, 12-04-2015 a las 10:42 -0700, V Stuart Foote escribió:
 Jorge Rodríguez
 
 Thank you for submitting.
 
 I've uploaded your proposed StartCenter mockup to the Wiki--please log-in
 there (create an account if you do not already have one) and adjust the
 licensing and description for your artwork.
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding
 
 Also, please consider that in your mockup, you appear to have eliminated the
 thumbnail view of recently used documents. That is a critical design element
 that can not be removed.  So, your design needs additional work.
 
 You'll need to rework  your mockup to show where thumbnail views and
 templates would be presented.
 
 Stuart
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

2015-04-12 Thread jorge
Hi all:

As Mr. V Stuart Foote request, I gave me too an oportunity to design a
DashBoard (Known as WhiteBoard) that I suggest to you and to the Libre
Office community and it would be apreciate by you and could be selected
it as official LOWB.

This is the link where the file would be to get:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/pt3awswsv1536cx/Design%
20WhiteBoard-LibreOffice%205.png?dl=0

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El vie, 10-04-2015 a las 19:20 -0700, V Stuart Foote escribió:
 Current build of master 5.0... with Breeze icons
 
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4145916/5.png 
 
 Breeze icons may or may not end up on the StartCenter panel--we need that
 design and layout discusion to occur.
 
 Feel free to contribute...
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding
 
 Stuart
 
 
 
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