Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
On 04/10/2019 06:07, MR ZenWiz wrote: > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:28 AM aguador wrote: >> El sáb, 28-09-2019 a las 22:29 -0700, MR ZenWiz escribió: >>> Update: >>> >>> I just upgraded to LO 6.3.2 and the same issue remains. >>> >>> FYI, I don't use the file manager to open my files. I use a keyboard >>> shortcut that starts up LO Writer, then File -> Open Recent or ^O >>> (File ->Open). In both instances, the file opened on startup is >>> neither replaced nor closed but remains open and must be closed >>> separately. >>> >>> >> Have you tried working with a new profile as mentioned in my earlier >> post? (See https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile about >> profile locations, etc.) >> >> In my test I found that not even starting LO in safe mode solved the >> problem, but allowing LO to create a new profile did. I would be >> interested to see if others can confirm this. >> > A new profile helps a lot. This specific problem went away. > > Now the problem is that I lost all my settings. I imported a profile > from work, which was quite similar to my original and didn't have the > problem, but I have to make a lot of adjustments. > > This is minor compared to the original problem. > > Many thanks! > > Mark > You can try copying back parts of the old profile, bit by bit. You might find you get most of your settings back before the bug starts. It's worked for me with other bugs. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:28 AM aguador wrote: > > El sáb, 28-09-2019 a las 22:29 -0700, MR ZenWiz escribió: > > Update: > > > > I just upgraded to LO 6.3.2 and the same issue remains. > > > > FYI, I don't use the file manager to open my files. I use a keyboard > > shortcut that starts up LO Writer, then File -> Open Recent or ^O > > (File ->Open). In both instances, the file opened on startup is > > neither replaced nor closed but remains open and must be closed > > separately. > > > > > Have you tried working with a new profile as mentioned in my earlier > post? (See https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile about > profile locations, etc.) > > In my test I found that not even starting LO in safe mode solved the > problem, but allowing LO to create a new profile did. I would be > interested to see if others can confirm this. > A new profile helps a lot. This specific problem went away. Now the problem is that I lost all my settings. I imported a profile from work, which was quite similar to my original and didn't have the problem, but I have to make a lot of adjustments. This is minor compared to the original problem. Many thanks! Mark -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
El sáb, 28-09-2019 a las 22:29 -0700, MR ZenWiz escribió: > Update: > > I just upgraded to LO 6.3.2 and the same issue remains. > > FYI, I don't use the file manager to open my files. I use a keyboard > shortcut that starts up LO Writer, then File -> Open Recent or ^O > (File ->Open). In both instances, the file opened on startup is > neither replaced nor closed but remains open and must be closed > separately. > > Have you tried working with a new profile as mentioned in my earlier post? (See https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile about profile locations, etc.) In my test I found that not even starting LO in safe mode solved the problem, but allowing LO to create a new profile did. I would be interested to see if others can confirm this. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
Update: I just upgraded to LO 6.3.2 and the same issue remains. FYI, I don't use the file manager to open my files. I use a keyboard shortcut that starts up LO Writer, then File -> Open Recent or ^O (File ->Open). In both instances, the file opened on startup is neither replaced nor closed but remains open and must be closed separately. This does NOT happen with LO Calc - if I open this with a (different) keyboard shortcut, the do eithe ran open recent or open (exitsing) command, the untitled spreadsheet opened on startup is gone once the recent or existing file is opened. This is the old behavior with LO 6.2, and whether this is desirable or not, it should be consistent across the whole suite. I say it is undesirable to have the untitled new file require separate closure when an existing file is opened. This is new behavior and goes against 30+ years of most word processors not working that way. On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:26 AM wrote: > > El mié, 25-09-2019 a las 14:50 +0200, aguador escribió: > > Double-clicking on the document assumes that it is readily visible -- > > perhaps on a sloppy, crowded desktop? -- otherwise there are > > additional > > steps. Opening LO certainly works as well as opening from within LO > > Writer and is a bad recommendation. However, as I think about > > alternating between creating and editing documents in Writer (my most > > heavily used component of LO), going directly to Writer seems the > > most > > natural way or working (at least for me). Furthermore, if you think > > that this should be the MO for using LO, perhaps there should be no > > links to open LO components directly from menus. > > Oops, it is NOT a bad recommendation (my apologies for not proofing > properly) -- with one caveat: the list one sees from the drop-down menu > in LO Writer is a lot more efficient than scrolling though the > thumbnails. > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
El mié, 25-09-2019 a las 14:50 +0200, aguador escribió: > Double-clicking on the document assumes that it is readily visible -- > perhaps on a sloppy, crowded desktop? -- otherwise there are > additional > steps. Opening LO certainly works as well as opening from within LO > Writer and is a bad recommendation. However, as I think about > alternating between creating and editing documents in Writer (my most > heavily used component of LO), going directly to Writer seems the > most > natural way or working (at least for me). Furthermore, if you think > that this should be the MO for using LO, perhaps there should be no > links to open LO components directly from menus. Oops, it is NOT a bad recommendation (my apologies for not proofing properly) -- with one caveat: the list one sees from the drop-down menu in LO Writer is a lot more efficient than scrolling though the thumbnails. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
El mié, 25-09-2019 a las 13:08 +0100, Brian Barker escribió: > At 13:33 24/09/2019 -0700, Mark Richter wrote: > > > [snip] Dare I say you may be suffering from Microsoft-itis? You talk > of the > issue being "with Writer" as if that is a separate application and > not just the word for using LibreOffice on text documents. [snip] Or perhaps it is the poster's most frequently used application with the LO suite and so where it was noticed? Dare I suggest you are over reacting there? > > [snip] So the real question is: why would you get yourself in the > position > of having that blank document if you didn't want it in the first > place? If, as you say, you want to open an existing document, you > can > do so by double-clicking the document outside LibreOffice or by > starting LibreOffice - not Writer, Calc, or whatever - and then > using > either of the techniques you describe. [snip] Double-clicking on the document assumes that it is readily visible -- perhaps on a sloppy, crowded desktop? -- otherwise there are additional steps. Opening LO certainly works as well as opening from within LO Writer and is a bad recommendation. However, as I think about alternating between creating and editing documents in Writer (my most heavily used component of LO), going directly to Writer seems the most natural way or working (at least for me). Furthermore, if you think that this should be the MO for using LO, perhaps there should be no links to open LO components directly from menus. > > > I'm most concerned with the persistence of the empty new document > > window once something else is opened - that's not right. > > If I was designing software and you'd chosen to open such a blank > document, I might want to let you keep it. > That may be, but it seems that the poster I have other ways of working that make sense to us. Furthermore, why would I open a blank document first if I were going to be working with both an existing and blank document simultaneously? Opening the existing document first seems more logical to me. However, all of that is beside the point because we are talking about a change in what has been the default behavior and, if my test in safe mode is any measure, is still the default behavior. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
At 13:33 24/09/2019 -0700, Mark Richter wrote: I recently upgraded to LO 6.3.1 [...] . I noticed a new issue with Writer. In 6.2 and below, when I opened a blank document and selected File -> Open Recent -> , the file I chose to open replaced the new blank file, either in the same window, or in a new window and the old one was closed for me. Also, when I opened a new Writer document and selected File -> Open -> (or O), the same thing happened. In either case I only had one window open at this time. Since 6.3.1 came out, the new blank document window persists, making it an annoying extra step to close that unnecessary LO window since the blank new document does not go away on its own. This does not happen if I open a blank Calc window and select either of the above two options - the blank spreadsheet window disappears once I open the selected one of my choice. Dare I say you may be suffering from Microsoft-itis? You talk of the issue being "with Writer" as if that is a separate application and not just the word for using LibreOffice on text documents. No: unlike some other office suites, which are just a collection of separate applications, LibreOffice is an integrated product, capable of creating and editing documents of various types. You seem to think you need to open Writer before you can open an existing text document. But no: you can open such a document from within LibreOffice or from outside it whether or not you have other documents open and no matter what type they might be. So the real question is: why would you get yourself in the position of having that blank document if you didn't want it in the first place? If, as you say, you want to open an existing document, you can do so by double-clicking the document outside LibreOffice or by starting LibreOffice - not Writer, Calc, or whatever - and then using either of the techniques you describe. The "extra step" is not closing a blank document, but your choice to create it in the first place. If you have icons or menu items that offer to start "LibreOffice Writer" or "LibreOffice Calc", their function is to start LibreOffice *and* to open a fresh, blank document of the appropriate type: you shouldn't want to use them unless that is your intention. I'm most concerned with the persistence of the empty new document window once something else is opened - that's not right. If I was designing software and you'd chosen to open such a blank document, I might want to let you keep it. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
El mié, 25-09-2019 a las 05:12 -0400, Dan Lewis escribió: > On 9/25/19 2:36 AM, waterbearer54@gmx.com9jK30(#own9Dhj wrote: > > > Enviar: martes 24 de septiembre de 2019 a las 22:33 > > > De: "MR ZenWiz" > > > Para: LibreOffice > > > Asunto: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1 > > > > > > Since 6.3.1 came out, the new blank document window persists, > > > making > > > it an annoying extra step to close that unnecessary LO window > > > since > > > the blank new document does not go away on its own. > > > > > > It may be something that creeped into LO but has not remained. I am > using 6.3.2.1 which is a pre-release version. I do not get the same > result as you. The blank page disappears when I open an already > existing > writer file. So be patient, 6.3.2 will be released in the near > future. > > Thanks, Dan. I just updated to LO 6.3.2.2 and I have seen the same thing. However, I tested in safe mode and, voilá, the blank document problem disappeared. Perhaps others might confirm this? Minor gripe: I used LO for years with no need to change the profile. This is now the second time in less than a year that this has been required. Are we seeing big changes that make these things unavoidable, or might they be avoidable? Kudo: Now that I've griped, let me praise the new print dialog. It has taken a long time, but it is great to see the print odd/even pages option! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
Looks like I made a mistake. A blank Writer document persists when opening a used Writer document using 6.3.2.1 but not when using 6.2.6.2. I may not have paid close enough attention as to which version I was using at that time. (I can actually run both at the same time.) Ubuntu 18.04 Dan On 9/25/19 5:48 AM, Helmut Leininger wrote: On 9/25/19 2:36 AM, waterbearer54@gmx.com9jK30(#own9Dhj wrote: Enviar: martes 24 de septiembre de 2019 a las 22:33 De: "MR ZenWiz" Para: LibreOffice Asunto: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1 Since 6.3.1 came out, the new blank document window persists, making it an annoying extra step to close that unnecessary LO window since the blank new document does not go away on its own. I have also seen this (Mageia 8). I could not find a corresponding bug report, but given the possible labels, they may be one. Perhaps someone on the dev team who follows this list could comment? It may be something that creeped into LO but has not remained. I am using 6.3.2.1 which is a pre-release version. I do not get the same result as you. The blank page disappears when I open an already existing writer file. So be patient, 6.3.2 will be released in the near future. I have been working with the LO Documentation team for many years, and that is why I know how to download both the daily builds and pre-release versions. I had to in order to do my research for what I write. Dan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
I am seeing the same behaviour that MR ZenWiz describes. The new empty (calc) window persists when a document (calc) is opend from the last used documents. Using Windows 10 64-bit LO 6.3.2.2 Regards Helmut Am 25.09.2019 um 11:12 schrieb Dan Lewis: > > On 9/25/19 2:36 AM, waterbearer54@gmx.com9jK30(#own9Dhj wrote: >>> Enviar: martes 24 de septiembre de 2019 a las 22:33 >>> De: "MR ZenWiz" >>> Para: LibreOffice >>> Asunto: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1 >>> >>> Since 6.3.1 came out, the new blank document window persists, making >>> it an annoying extra step to close that unnecessary LO window since >>> the blank new document does not go away on its own. >>> >> I have also seen this (Mageia 8). I could not find a corresponding >> bug report, but given the possible labels, they may be one. Perhaps >> someone on the dev team who follows this list could comment? >> > It may be something that creeped into LO but has not remained. I am > using 6.3.2.1 which is a pre-release version. I do not get the same > result as you. The blank page disappears when I open an already > existing writer file. So be patient, 6.3.2 will be released in the > near future. > > I have been working with the LO Documentation team for many years, and > that is why I know how to download both the daily builds and > pre-release versions. I had to in order to do my research for what I > write. > > Dan > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
On 9/25/19 2:36 AM, waterbearer54@gmx.com9jK30(#own9Dhj wrote: Enviar: martes 24 de septiembre de 2019 a las 22:33 De: "MR ZenWiz" Para: LibreOffice Asunto: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1 Since 6.3.1 came out, the new blank document window persists, making it an annoying extra step to close that unnecessary LO window since the blank new document does not go away on its own. I have also seen this (Mageia 8). I could not find a corresponding bug report, but given the possible labels, they may be one. Perhaps someone on the dev team who follows this list could comment? It may be something that creeped into LO but has not remained. I am using 6.3.2.1 which is a pre-release version. I do not get the same result as you. The blank page disappears when I open an already existing writer file. So be patient, 6.3.2 will be released in the near future. I have been working with the LO Documentation team for many years, and that is why I know how to download both the daily builds and pre-release versions. I had to in order to do my research for what I write. Dan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1
> Enviar: martes 24 de septiembre de 2019 a las 22:33 > De: "MR ZenWiz" > Para: LibreOffice > Asunto: [libreoffice-users] Strange behavior in Writer 6.3.1 > > Since 6.3.1 came out, the new blank document window persists, making > it an annoying extra step to close that unnecessary LO window since > the blank new document does not go away on its own. > I have also seen this (Mageia 8). I could not find a corresponding bug report, but given the possible labels, they may be one. Perhaps someone on the dev team who follows this list could comment? -- Roy W. Reese "Aquellos que no se mueven, no sienten sus cadenas". - Rosa Luxemburg, filósofa, economista y activista (1870-1919) "Those who do not move, do not notice their chains." - Rosa Luxemburg, philosopher, economist and activist (1870-1919) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
