Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
Le 01/07/2011 17:42, John Thaden a écrit : I neglected to mention that indeed the lost document was a .doc file. I recreated the lost document from memory so am back in business. Is this bug logged in bugzilla? Should I report anything about it to hurry along its resolution? Regards, -John I'd emphasize on the standard ODF file format. My constant hint is to *always* use the native file format a tool can manipulate, eg ODF file formats when working with LibO/OOo. Then, *when and only when* an export need arises under some other exotic file format, just Save as for that purpose. My 2 euro-cents, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
--- On Thu, 6/30/11, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: Hi. There is a bug for auto recovery if the document being edited is a .doc https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805 I have turned auto recovery and backup off now and just regularly remember to save because I know I can't rely on it. steve I neglected to mention that indeed the lost document was a .doc file. I recreated the lost document from memory so am back in business. Is this bug logged in bugzilla? Should I report anything about it to hurry along its resolution? Regards, -John -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
Tom, Might want to uncheck them if you edit, write, and save in .doc filetype, as another lister noted a bug affecting .doc files and so unchecks these boxes, himself. It was a bit quicker to recreate and I both missed things while getting other things better. Thanks! -John --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 4:03 PM Ouch! I just checked that box on 2 machines downstairs as i happened to be setting them both up at the time. I tend to find it much easier to re-write something than it was to write it first time although sometimes i miss some fluky elegance. Usually tho, 2nd time seems to be better for me and somehow my fingers magically remember key phrases i was pleased with. I hope it works that way for you too. Regards from Tom :) From: John Thaden jjtha...@flash.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 30 June, 2011 19:42:20 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery Hello Sigrid, thank you for the speedy reply! Always create a backup file was not checked, but I see that Save Auto recovery information was. Yet the recovered document was extremely old. I've now checked the other option -- to back up -- and am trying to recreate my work. Autorecovery didn't seem to work for some reason. Thank you again, -John --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote: Writer (or better LibreOffice) can do autosave, but it does not by default. To activate autosave, go to Tools Options Load/Save General and set the value you want. I have ticked the box that says Always create a backup file and Save Auto recovery information every 15 Minutes. (The number can be changed by you). So in your current situation, I'm afraid, you need to recreate the missing parts from memory. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
John On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 08:42 -0700, John Thaden wrote: --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: Hi. There is a bug for auto recovery if the document being edited is a .doc https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805 I have turned auto recovery and backup off now and just regularly remember to save because I know I can't rely on it. steve I neglected to mention that indeed the lost document was a .doc file. I recreated the lost document from memory so am back in business. Is this bug logged in bugzilla? Should I report anything about it to hurry along its resolution? Regards, -John I would file a bug report, it help the deveopers know what problems users are coming across. Thanks, -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
Hi :) If you are not able to search the bugs area at the moment (through inexperience or lack of time) then it is better to just post the bug report yourself and let triagers gain more experience at searching for and linking similar bug-reports. If it isn't already posted then you will have done a hugely positive thing in drawing attention to the problem. Regards from Tom :) From: planas jsloz...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 1 July, 2011 17:34:59 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery John On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 08:42 -0700, John Thaden wrote: --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: Hi. There is a bug for auto recovery if the document being edited is a .doc https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805 I have turned auto recovery and backup off now and just regularly remember to save because I know I can't rely on it. steve I neglected to mention that indeed the lost document was a .doc file. I recreated the lost document from memory so am back in business. Is this bug logged in bugzilla? Should I report anything about it to hurry along its resolution? Regards, -John I would file a bug report, it help the deveopers know what problems users are coming across. Thanks, -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
Hi :) Thanks :) Since MS Office is the dominant Office on those machines i thought i would leave the LibreOffice saving to ODFs. That way one advantage of using LO is easy access to that format. I should check that ODFs don't try to open in MS Office because that would be a little bit irritating. Right tool for the right job is best. Thanks and regards from Tom :) From: John Thaden jjtha...@flash.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 1 July, 2011 17:14:36 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery Tom, Might want to uncheck them if you edit, write, and save in .doc filetype, as another lister noted a bug affecting .doc files and so unchecks these boxes, himself. It was a bit quicker to recreate and I both missed things while getting other things better. Thanks! -John --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 4:03 PM Ouch! I just checked that box on 2 machines downstairs as i happened to be setting them both up at the time. I tend to find it much easier to re-write something than it was to write it first time although sometimes i miss some fluky elegance. Usually tho, 2nd time seems to be better for me and somehow my fingers magically remember key phrases i was pleased with. I hope it works that way for you too. Regards from Tom :) From: John Thaden jjtha...@flash.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 30 June, 2011 19:42:20 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery Hello Sigrid, thank you for the speedy reply! Always create a backup file was not checked, but I see that Save Auto recovery information was. Yet the recovered document was extremely old. I've now checked the other option -- to back up -- and am trying to recreate my work. Autorecovery didn't seem to work for some reason. Thank you again, -John --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote: Writer (or better LibreOffice) can do autosave, but it does not by default. To activate autosave, go to Tools Options Load/Save General and set the value you want. I have ticked the box that says Always create a backup file and Save Auto recovery information every 15 Minutes. (The number can be changed by you). So in your current situation, I'm afraid, you need to recreate the missing parts from memory. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
planas wrote (01-07-11 18:34) On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 08:42 -0700, John Thaden wrote: I neglected to mention that indeed the lost document was a .doc file. I recreated the lost document from memory so am back in business. Is this bug logged in bugzilla? Should I report anything about it to hurry along its resolution? I would file a bug report, it help the deveopers know what problems users are coming across. Sorry, already exists: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805 (I was wrong with my first search, even more: the bug is linked from the release notes ;-) From the what?? The *release* *notes*. Ah ..) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
Hello John, On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:48:24 -0700 (PDT) John Thaden jjtha...@flash.net wrote: New user here, of LibreOffice, trying to recover a document open in Writer when a Microsoft update auto-rebooted my computer. Reopening Writer, I followed instructions on a recovery Wizard. An error message flashed on and then a document appeared, but a very old version of the document. Did I lose the newer version that was up on my desktop for hours? Doesn't Writer autosave by default? Should I start trying to recreate it from my head? Writer (or better LibreOffice) can do autosave, but it does not by default. To activate autosave, go to Tools Options Load/Save General and set the value you want. I have ticked the box that says Always create a backup file and Save Auto recovery information every 15 Minutes. (The number can be changed by you). So in your current situation, I'm afraid, you need to recreate the missing parts from memory. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
Hi John John Thaden wrote (30-06-11 19:48) New user here, of LibreOffice, trying to recover a document open in Writer when a Microsoft update auto-rebooted my computer. Welcome here - though for a sad/mad situation. Reopening Writer, I followed instructions on a recovery Wizard. An error message flashed on and then a document appeared, but a very old version of the document. Does not sound logic to me... Did I lose the newer version that was up on my desktop for hours? Doesn't Writer autosave by default? Save interval for autorecovery is default at 15 min. See Tools Options Load/save General Should I start trying to recreate it from my head? I have no idea what your computer did with the recovery file. So unless someone else comes up with better info, I would think you have to do that yes. P.S. I'm using LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2 under Windows XP service pack 3. Thanks for the info. I find no bugs for auto recovery function however: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/query.cgi Is it something you can reproduce (hmm ask Windows update to do it again :-\ ) Regards, Cor -- - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
Hello Sigrid, thank you for the speedy reply! Always create a backup file was not checked, but I see that Save Auto recovery information was. Yet the recovered document was extremely old. I've now checked the other option -- to back up -- and am trying to recreate my work. Autorecovery didn't seem to work for some reason. Thank you again, -John --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote: Writer (or better LibreOffice) can do autosave, but it does not by default. To activate autosave, go to Tools Options Load/Save General and set the value you want. I have ticked the box that says Always create a backup file and Save Auto recovery information every 15 Minutes. (The number can be changed by you). So in your current situation, I'm afraid, you need to recreate the missing parts from memory. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
Ouch! I just checked that box on 2 machines downstairs as i happened to be setting them both up at the time. I tend to find it much easier to re-write something than it was to write it first time although sometimes i miss some fluky elegance. Usually tho, 2nd time seems to be better for me and somehow my fingers magically remember key phrases i was pleased with. I hope it works that way for you too. Regards from Tom :) From: John Thaden jjtha...@flash.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 30 June, 2011 19:42:20 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery Hello Sigrid, thank you for the speedy reply! Always create a backup file was not checked, but I see that Save Auto recovery information was. Yet the recovered document was extremely old. I've now checked the other option -- to back up -- and am trying to recreate my work. Autorecovery didn't seem to work for some reason. Thank you again, -John --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote: Writer (or better LibreOffice) can do autosave, but it does not by default. To activate autosave, go to Tools Options Load/Save General and set the value you want. I have ticked the box that says Always create a backup file and Save Auto recovery information every 15 Minutes. (The number can be changed by you). So in your current situation, I'm afraid, you need to recreate the missing parts from memory. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
On 1/07/11 6:36 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi John John Thaden wrote (30-06-11 19:48) New user here, of LibreOffice, trying to recover a document open in Writer when a Microsoft update auto-rebooted my computer. Welcome here - though for a sad/mad situation. Reopening Writer, I followed instructions on a recovery Wizard. An error message flashed on and then a document appeared, but a very old version of the document. Does not sound logic to me... Did I lose the newer version that was up on my desktop for hours? Doesn't Writer autosave by default? Save interval for autorecovery is default at 15 min. See Tools Options Load/save General Should I start trying to recreate it from my head? I have no idea what your computer did with the recovery file. So unless someone else comes up with better info, I would think you have to do that yes. P.S. I'm using LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2 under Windows XP service pack 3. Thanks for the info. I find no bugs for auto recovery function however: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/query.cgi Is it something you can reproduce (hmm ask Windows update to do it again :-\ ) Regards, Cor Hi. There is a bug for auto recovery if the document being edited is a .doc https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805 I have turned auto recovery and backup off now and just regularly remember to save because I know I can't rely on it. steve -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
Hi Steve, Steve Edmonds wrote (30-06-11 23:14) Hi. There is a bug for auto recovery if the document being edited is a .doc https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805 I have turned auto recovery and backup off now and just regularly remember to save because I know I can't rely on it. Ah thanks for letting me know. Stupid me - I only searched for 'auto recovery' and 'auto save'. Apologies! -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted