Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-07-02 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Le 01/07/2011 17:42, John Thaden a écrit :


I neglected to mention that indeed the lost document was a .doc file.
I recreated the lost document from memory so am back in business.  Is
this bug logged in bugzilla?  Should I report anything about it to
hurry along its resolution? Regards, -John



I'd emphasize on the standard ODF file format.

My constant hint is to *always* use the native file format a tool can 
manipulate, eg ODF file formats when working with LibO/OOo. Then, *when 
and only when* an export need arises under some other exotic file 
format, just Save as for that purpose.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-07-01 Thread John Thaden
--- On Thu, 6/30/11, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:

 Hi. There is a bug for auto recovery if the document being
 edited is a .doc
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805
 I have turned auto recovery and backup off now and just
 regularly 
 remember to save because I know I can't rely on it.
 steve

I neglected to mention that indeed the lost document was a .doc file.  I 
recreated the lost document from memory so am back in business.  Is this bug 
logged in bugzilla?  Should I report anything about it to hurry along its 
resolution?
Regards,
-John

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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-07-01 Thread John Thaden
Tom,
   Might want to uncheck them if you edit, write, and save in .doc filetype, as 
another lister noted a bug affecting .doc files and so unchecks these boxes, 
himself.  It was a bit quicker to recreate and I both missed things while 
getting other things better.  Thanks!
-John

--- On Thu, 6/30/11, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 4:03 PM
 Ouch!  
 I just checked that box on 2 machines downstairs as i
 happened to be setting 
 them both up at the time.  I tend to find it much
 easier to re-write something 
 than it was to write it first time although sometimes i
 miss some fluky 
 elegance.  Usually tho, 2nd time seems to be better
 for me and somehow my 
 fingers magically remember key phrases i was pleased
 with.  I hope it works that 
 way for you too.
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: John Thaden jjtha...@flash.net
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 30 June, 2011 19:42:20
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
 
 Hello Sigrid, thank you for the speedy reply!
 
 Always create a backup file was not checked, but I see
 that Save Auto 
 recovery information was. Yet the recovered document was
 extremely old.  I've 
 now checked the other option -- to back up -- and am trying
 to recreate my 
 work.  Autorecovery didn't seem to work for some
 reason.
 
 Thank you again,
 -John
 
 
 --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
  Writer (or better LibreOffice) can do autosave, but it
 does
  not by default. To activate autosave, go to Tools
 
  Options  Load/Save  General and set the value
 you
  want. 
  
  I have ticked the box that says Always create a
 backup
  file and Save Auto recovery information every 15
 Minutes.
  (The number can be changed by you). 
  
  So in your current situation, I'm afraid, you need to
  recreate the missing parts from memory.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-07-01 Thread planas
John

On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 08:42 -0700, John Thaden wrote:

 --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
 
  Hi. There is a bug for auto recovery if the document being
  edited is a .doc
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805
  I have turned auto recovery and backup off now and just
  regularly 
  remember to save because I know I can't rely on it.
  steve
 
 I neglected to mention that indeed the lost document was a .doc file.  I 
 recreated the lost document from memory so am back in business.  Is this bug 
 logged in bugzilla?  Should I report anything about it to hurry along its 
 resolution?
 Regards,
 -John
 

I would file a bug report, it help the deveopers know what problems
users are coming across.

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-07-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
If you are not able to search the bugs area at the moment (through inexperience 
or lack of time) then it is better to just post the bug report yourself and let 
triagers gain more experience at searching for and linking similar bug-reports. 
 
If it isn't already posted then you will have done a hugely positive thing in 
drawing attention to the problem.  

Regards from
Tom :)






From: planas jsloz...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 1 July, 2011 17:34:59
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

John

On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 08:42 -0700, John Thaden wrote:

 --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
 
  Hi. There is a bug for auto recovery if the document being
  edited is a .doc
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805
  I have turned auto recovery and backup off now and just
  regularly 
  remember to save because I know I can't rely on it.
  steve
 
 I neglected to mention that indeed the lost document was a .doc file.  I 
recreated the lost document from memory so am back in business.  Is this bug 
logged in bugzilla?  Should I report anything about it to hurry along its 
resolution?
 Regards,
 -John
 

I would file a bug report, it help the deveopers know what problems
users are coming across.

Thanks,

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jsloz...@gmail.com

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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-07-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks :)  Since MS Office is the dominant Office on those machines i thought i 
would leave the LibreOffice saving to ODFs.  That way one advantage of using LO 
is easy access to that format.  I should check that ODFs don't try to open in 
MS 
Office because that would be a little bit irritating.  Right tool for the right 
job is best.
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)






From: John Thaden jjtha...@flash.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 1 July, 2011 17:14:36
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

Tom,
   Might want to uncheck them if you edit, write, and save in .doc filetype, as 
another lister noted a bug affecting .doc files and so unchecks these boxes, 
himself.  It was a bit quicker to recreate and I both missed things while 
getting other things better.  Thanks!
-John

--- On Thu, 6/30/11, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 4:03 PM
 Ouch!  
 I just checked that box on 2 machines downstairs as i
 happened to be setting 
 them both up at the time.  I tend to find it much
 easier to re-write something 
 than it was to write it first time although sometimes i
 miss some fluky 
 elegance.  Usually tho, 2nd time seems to be better
 for me and somehow my 
 fingers magically remember key phrases i was pleased
 with.  I hope it works that 
 way for you too.
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: John Thaden jjtha...@flash.net
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 30 June, 2011 19:42:20
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery
 
 Hello Sigrid, thank you for the speedy reply!
 
 Always create a backup file was not checked, but I see
 that Save Auto 
 recovery information was. Yet the recovered document was
 extremely old.  I've 
 now checked the other option -- to back up -- and am trying
 to recreate my 
 work.  Autorecovery didn't seem to work for some
 reason.
 
 Thank you again,
 -John
 
 
 --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
  Writer (or better LibreOffice) can do autosave, but it
 does
  not by default. To activate autosave, go to Tools
 
  Options  Load/Save  General and set the value
 you
  want. 
  
  I have ticked the box that says Always create a
 backup
  file and Save Auto recovery information every 15
 Minutes.
  (The number can be changed by you). 
  
  So in your current situation, I'm afraid, you need to
  recreate the missing parts from memory.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-07-01 Thread Cor Nouws

planas wrote (01-07-11 18:34)


On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 08:42 -0700, John Thaden wrote:



I neglected to mention that indeed the lost document was a .doc
file.  I recreated the lost document from memory so am back in
business.  Is this bug logged in bugzilla?  Should I report
anything about it to hurry along its resolution?


I would file a bug report, it help the deveopers know what problems
users are coming across.


Sorry, already exists:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805
(I was wrong with my first search, even more: the bug is linked from the
release notes ;-) From the what?? The *release* *notes*. Ah ..)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-06-30 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hello John, 

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:48:24 -0700 (PDT)
John Thaden jjtha...@flash.net wrote:

 New user here, of LibreOffice, trying to recover a document open in Writer 
 when a Microsoft update auto-rebooted my computer.  Reopening Writer, I 
 followed instructions on a recovery Wizard.  An error message flashed on and 
 then a document appeared, but a very old version of the document.  Did I lose 
 the newer version that was up on my desktop for hours?  Doesn't Writer 
 autosave by default?  Should I start trying to recreate it from my head?

Writer (or better LibreOffice) can do autosave, but it does not by default. To 
activate autosave, go to Tools  Options  Load/Save  General and set the 
value you want. 

I have ticked the box that says Always create a backup file and Save Auto 
recovery information every 15 Minutes. (The number can be changed by you). 

So in your current situation, I'm afraid, you need to recreate the missing 
parts from memory. 

Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-06-30 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi John

John Thaden wrote (30-06-11 19:48)

New user here, of LibreOffice, trying to recover a document open in
Writer when a Microsoft update auto-rebooted my computer.


Welcome here - though for a sad/mad situation.


Reopening Writer, I followed instructions on
a recovery Wizard.  An error message flashed on and then a document
appeared, but a very old version of the document.


Does not sound logic to me...


Did I lose the newer version that was up on
my desktop for hours?  Doesn't Writer autosave by default?


Save interval for autorecovery is default at 15 min.
See Tools  Options  Load/save  General


Should I start trying to recreate it from my head?


I have no idea what your computer did with the recovery file. So unless 
someone else comes up with better info, I would think you have to do 
that yes.



P.S. I'm using LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag
libreoffice-3.3.2.2 under Windows XP service pack 3.


Thanks for the info. I find no bugs for auto recovery function however:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/query.cgi

Is it something you can reproduce (hmm ask Windows update to do it again 
:-\ )


Regards,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-06-30 Thread John Thaden
Hello Sigrid, thank you for the speedy reply!

Always create a backup file was not checked, but I see that Save Auto 
recovery information was. Yet the recovered document was extremely old.  I've 
now checked the other option -- to back up -- and am trying to recreate my 
work.  Autorecovery didn't seem to work for some reason.

Thank you again,
-John


--- On Thu, 6/30/11, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Writer (or better LibreOffice) can do autosave, but it does
 not by default. To activate autosave, go to Tools 
 Options  Load/Save  General and set the value you
 want. 
 
 I have ticked the box that says Always create a backup
 file and Save Auto recovery information every 15 Minutes.
 (The number can be changed by you). 
 
 So in your current situation, I'm afraid, you need to
 recreate the missing parts from memory.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-06-30 Thread Tom Davies
Ouch!  
I just checked that box on 2 machines downstairs as i happened to be setting 
them both up at the time.  I tend to find it much easier to re-write something 
than it was to write it first time although sometimes i miss some fluky 
elegance.  Usually tho, 2nd time seems to be better for me and somehow my 
fingers magically remember key phrases i was pleased with.  I hope it works 
that 
way for you too.

Regards from
Tom :)






From: John Thaden jjtha...@flash.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 30 June, 2011 19:42:20
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

Hello Sigrid, thank you for the speedy reply!

Always create a backup file was not checked, but I see that Save Auto 
recovery information was. Yet the recovered document was extremely old.  I've 
now checked the other option -- to back up -- and am trying to recreate my 
work.  Autorecovery didn't seem to work for some reason.

Thank you again,
-John


--- On Thu, 6/30/11, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Writer (or better LibreOffice) can do autosave, but it does
 not by default. To activate autosave, go to Tools 
 Options  Load/Save  General and set the value you
 want. 
 
 I have ticked the box that says Always create a backup
 file and Save Auto recovery information every 15 Minutes.
 (The number can be changed by you). 
 
 So in your current situation, I'm afraid, you need to
 recreate the missing parts from memory.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-06-30 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 1/07/11 6:36 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi John

John Thaden wrote (30-06-11 19:48)

New user here, of LibreOffice, trying to recover a document open in
Writer when a Microsoft update auto-rebooted my computer.


Welcome here - though for a sad/mad situation.


Reopening Writer, I followed instructions on
a recovery Wizard.  An error message flashed on and then a document
appeared, but a very old version of the document.


Does not sound logic to me...


Did I lose the newer version that was up on
my desktop for hours?  Doesn't Writer autosave by default?


Save interval for autorecovery is default at 15 min.
See Tools  Options  Load/save  General


Should I start trying to recreate it from my head?


I have no idea what your computer did with the recovery file. So 
unless someone else comes up with better info, I would think you have 
to do that yes.



P.S. I'm using LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag
libreoffice-3.3.2.2 under Windows XP service pack 3.


Thanks for the info. I find no bugs for auto recovery function however:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/query.cgi

Is it something you can reproduce (hmm ask Windows update to do it 
again :-\ )


Regards,
Cor


Hi. There is a bug for auto recovery if the document being edited is a .doc
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805
I have turned auto recovery and backup off now and just regularly 
remember to save because I know I can't rely on it.

steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] file recovery

2011-06-30 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Steve,

Steve Edmonds wrote (30-06-11 23:14)


Hi. There is a bug for auto recovery if the document being edited is a .doc
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34805
I have turned auto recovery and backup off now and just regularly
remember to save because I know I can't rely on it.


Ah thanks for letting me know.
Stupid me - I only searched for 'auto recovery' and 'auto save'. Apologies!


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