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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-05 Thread Robert Funnell


On Thu, 5 May 2016, Piet van Oostrum wrote:


Robert Funnell wrote:

> Felipe -
>
> The hidden text being discussed here is described at
> https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Hiding_Text
> That doesn't seem to be what you're talking about?
>
> - Robert
>
That is missing one important case, that I think we were talking about.

It is normal text, that has been formatted with
Format > Character > Font Effects > Hidden.


OK, now I know there are two ways of hiding text :-) Thank you.



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-05 Thread Piet van Oostrum

Walther Koehler wrote:

 > I posted the tag, which I think is the relevant, before:
 > > >>> blabla
 > I assume "P2" refers to printable, suppressing output on paper.
 > if you have a simple command line

No, "P2" is just a name, it could be anything. You would have to look up the 
style definition of "P2" and see if it has a text:display="none" in it. And 
there can be more than one of these styles, depending on the other character 
attributes, like font, size or color.
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-05 Thread Piet van Oostrum

Robert Funnell wrote:

 > Felipe -
 > 
 > The hidden text being discussed here is described at 
 > https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Hiding_Text
 > That doesn't seem to be what you're talking about?
 > 
 > - Robert
 > 
That is missing one important case, that I think we were talking about.

It is normal text, that has been formatted with 
Format > Character > Font Effects > Hidden.
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-05 Thread Walther Koehler

Hallo,

look at your *.txt file: the previously hidden formated text appears as plain 
string.

enjoy LO

Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2016 schrieb Luuk:
> On 03-05-16 19:13, Walther Koehler wrote:
> > Hallo,
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
> >>> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> >>> in
> >>
> >> a
> >>
> >>> simple way?
> >>
> >> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding
> >> (.txt) Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text
> >> files.
> >
> > Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will
> > contain the hidden formated text.
> >
> > To make it very clear:
> > I do not care about the format information in the file.
> > I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file
> > before shipping.
>
> Are you saying that there are still 'hidden formated text' things in the
> textfile that is created when one does do 'File/SaveAs/.txt' ??
>
> ?



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt

2016-05-05 Thread Walther Koehler

Hi Piet,

your makro is ingenious, short and effective, it does the job, than you very 
much, I am happy.

Walther

Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
> Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
>  > > Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > >  > Thank you.
>  > >  > Your procedure is principally what I need.
>  > >  > However, quite complicated for routine work.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Walther
>  > >
>  > > The first part (replacing hidden text with colored text) could be done
>  > > with a script.
>  >
>  > yes, and the whole procedure could be packed in a basic makro.
>  > The script can be called by a shell command within a makro, the replace
>  > functions realized with dispatcher commands.
>  >
>  > Let us try it.
>  >
>  > Walther
>
> Even simpler:
>
> Here is a Basic macro that just walks through the document, and deletes all
> hidden text. No unzipping, editing, etc. It just works inside the ODT
> document in LO.
>
> It only considers normal plain text, i.e. not inside tables, sections,
> frames, footnotes, etc. If you want that, these have to be specially coded.
>
> REM  *  BASIC  *
>
> Sub Main
>
> Dim oEnum   'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oPar
> Dim oSecEnum'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oParSection
>
> oEnum = ThisComponent.Text.createEnumeration()
> Do While oEnum.hasMoreElements()
>   oPar = oEnum.nextElement()
>   If oPar.supportsService("com.sun.star.text.Paragraph") Then
>   oSecEnum = oPar.createEnumeration()
>   Do While oSecEnum.hasMoreElements()
>   oParSection = 
> oSecEnum.nextElement()
>   If oParSection.TextPortionType 
> = "Text" AND oParSection.CharHidden
> Then oParSection.setString("")
>   End If
>   Loop
>
>   End If
> Loop
>
> End Sub
> --
> Piet van Oostrum 
> WWW: http://pietvanoostrum.com/
> PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt

2016-05-05 Thread Walther Koehler

Hi Piet,

superb, a makro! I will try it later on.

Walther

Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
> Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
>  > > Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > >  > Thank you.
>  > >  > Your procedure is principally what I need.
>  > >  > However, quite complicated for routine work.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Walther
>  > >
>  > > The first part (replacing hidden text with colored text) could be done
>  > > with a script.
>  >
>  > yes, and the whole procedure could be packed in a basic makro.
>  > The script can be called by a shell command within a makro, the replace
>  > functions realized with dispatcher commands.
>  >
>  > Let us try it.
>  >
>  > Walther
>
> Even simpler:
>
> Here is a Basic macro that just walks through the document, and deletes all
> hidden text. No unzipping, editing, etc. It just works inside the ODT
> document in LO.
>
> It only considers normal plain text, i.e. not inside tables, sections,
> frames, footnotes, etc. If you want that, these have to be specially coded.
>
> REM  *  BASIC  *
>
> Sub Main
>
> Dim oEnum   'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oPar
> Dim oSecEnum'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oParSection
>
> oEnum = ThisComponent.Text.createEnumeration()
> Do While oEnum.hasMoreElements()
>   oPar = oEnum.nextElement()
>   If oPar.supportsService("com.sun.star.text.Paragraph") Then
>   oSecEnum = oPar.createEnumeration()
>   Do While oSecEnum.hasMoreElements()
>   oParSection = 
> oSecEnum.nextElement()
>   If oParSection.TextPortionType 
> = "Text" AND oParSection.CharHidden
> Then oParSection.setString("")
>   End If
>   Loop
>
>   End If
> Loop
>
> End Sub
> --
> Piet van Oostrum 
> WWW: http://pietvanoostrum.com/
> PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-05 Thread Walther Koehler

Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieben Sie:
> Does this sound like a workable approach if you were familiar with
> Emacs? If you were able to identify exactly what needs to be removed
> from content.xml, and sent me a fragment of a file to illustrate it, I
> might be able to specify a sequence of commands that you could use.

I posted the tag, which I think is the relevant, before:
> >>> blabla
I assume "P2" refers to printable, suppressing output on paper.
if you have a simple command line
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:
> > Hi Robert
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Robert Funnell:
> >> Walther -
> >>
> >> Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to
> >> find and remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as
> >> simple.)
> >
> > Unfortunately, I am not used to emacs, although I know it is a very
> > powerful editor.
> >
> > Walther
> >
> >> - Robert
> >>
> >> On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:
> >>> Hallo,
> >>>
> >>> Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted
> > text in
> 
>  a
> 
> > simple way?
> 
>  File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding
>  (.txt) Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text
>  files.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file
> >>> will contain the hidden formated text.
> >>>
> >>> To make it very clear:
> >>> I do not care about the format information in the file.
> >>> I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file
> >>> before shipping.
> >>>
> >>> Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is
> >>> capable of removing certain xml tags in a file like
> >>>
> >>> blabla
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Walther
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> From: Walther Koehler 
> >> Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> >> Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear LO users,
> >>
> >> I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> >> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted
> >> text
> >
> > in a
> >
> >> simple way?
> >> Is it possible by a macro?
> >>
> >> (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the
> >> file without
> >> hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance
> >>
> >> Walther



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Fwd: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt

2016-05-05 Thread Walther Koehler

Hi Piet,

because your makro left over empty paragraph marks I added a few lines.

Walther

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Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated 
text in odt
Date: Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2016
From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
To: Piet van Oostrum <pie...@pietvanoostrum.com>

Hi Piet,

superb, a makro! I will try it later on.

Walther

Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
> Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
>  > > Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > >  > Thank you.
>  > >  > Your procedure is principally what I need.
>  > >  > However, quite complicated for routine work.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Walther
>  > >
>  > > The first part (replacing hidden text with colored text) could be done
>  > > with a script.
>  >
>  > yes, and the whole procedure could be packed in a basic makro.
>  > The script can be called by a shell command within a makro, the replace
>  > functions realized with dispatcher commands.
>  >
>  > Let us try it.
>  >
>  > Walther
>
> Even simpler:
>
> Here is a Basic macro that just walks through the document, and deletes all
> hidden text. No unzipping, editing, etc. It just works inside the ODT
> document in LO.
>
> It only considers normal plain text, i.e. not inside tables, sections,
> frames, footnotes, etc. If you want that, these have to be specially coded.
>
> REM  *  BASIC  *
>
> Sub Main
>
> Dim oEnum   'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oPar
> Dim oSecEnum'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oParSection
>
> oEnum = ThisComponent.Text.createEnumeration()
> oTxt=ThisComponent.Text
> Do While oEnum.hasMoreElements() 
>   oPar = oEnum.nextElement()
>   If oPar.supportsService("com.sun.star.text.Paragraph") Then
>   oSecEnum = oPar.createEnumeration()
>   flag=0
>   Do While oSecEnum.hasMoreElements() 
>   oParSection = 
> oSecEnum.nextElement()
>   If oParSection.TextPortionType 
> = "Text" AND oParSection.CharHidden  
Then
>   oParSection.setString("")
>   else
>flag=1
>   End If 
>   Loop
>   if flag=0 then oTxt.removeTextContent(oPar)
>   End If
> Loop
>
> End Sub
> --
> Piet van Oostrum <p...@vanoostrum.org>
> WWW: http://pietvanoostrum.com/
> PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-05 Thread Robert Funnell


Felipe -

The hidden text being discussed here is described at 
https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Hiding_Text

That doesn't seem to be what you're talking about?

- Robert

On Thu, 5 May 2016, Felipe T. Dorado wrote:


Hello Luuk  : )

On Thu, 5 May 2016 13:18:23 +0200, Luuk wrote:

L> On 05-05-16 11:12, Piet van Oostrum wrote:

L> > Save as .txt des save all text, including hidden text. Just try it out.

I have, Piet.

L> I think i have a different meaning of 'hidden text', than the average 
L> reader here  :-)


It would seem so.
Re-inventing the wheel isn't either smart nor efficient:

I wrote a file containing just:

"This an ODT file written in LibreOffice 5.1.
"

I saved it in LO native format: an_odt_file.odt
Then I saved it as text (plain, flat, ascii):   an_odt_file.txt

I listed the directory where I saved them and:

bytes   datefile
8628may  5 20:07an_odt_file.odt
49  may  5 20:07an_odt_file.txt

I opened the txt file with various text editors (nano, leafpad, gedit,
even notepad through wine) and have not been able to find any "hidden
text" ...  Just 49 bytes including spaces and Line Feed.
What do people understand by "hidden text"? The coding put there
by a word processor?
Saving a file as text is just that: saving it as text  (plain, flat, ascii)
with nothing else.

M$Win seems to produce strange things in how some users conceive files:
macros, scripts, programs, etc. just to strip the good old codes WordStar,
WordPerfect and many others  nowadays simply _hide away_ so the user cannot
see them. But they are there, doing their tasks.

Text is text. Just like this I've just written is text and nothing more.

Felipe  : )


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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-05 Thread Felipe T. Dorado

Hello Luuk  : )

On Thu, 5 May 2016 13:18:23 +0200, Luuk wrote:

L> On 05-05-16 11:12, Piet van Oostrum wrote:

L> > Save as .txt des save all text, including hidden text. Just try it out.

I have, Piet.
 
L> I think i have a different meaning of 'hidden text', than the average 
L> reader here  :-)

It would seem so.
Re-inventing the wheel isn't either smart nor efficient:

I wrote a file containing just:

"This an ODT file written in LibreOffice 5.1.
"

I saved it in LO native format: an_odt_file.odt
Then I saved it as text (plain, flat, ascii):   an_odt_file.txt

I listed the directory where I saved them and:

bytes   datefile
8628may  5 20:07an_odt_file.odt
49  may  5 20:07an_odt_file.txt
 
I opened the txt file with various text editors (nano, leafpad, gedit,
even notepad through wine) and have not been able to find any "hidden
text" ...  Just 49 bytes including spaces and Line Feed.
What do people understand by "hidden text"? The coding put there
by a word processor?
Saving a file as text is just that: saving it as text  (plain, flat, ascii)
with nothing else.

M$Win seems to produce strange things in how some users conceive files:
macros, scripts, programs, etc. just to strip the good old codes WordStar,
WordPerfect and many others  nowadays simply _hide away_ so the user cannot
see them. But they are there, doing their tasks.

Text is text. Just like this I've just written is text and nothing more.

Felipe  : )

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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-05 Thread Luuk




On 05-05-16 11:12, Piet van Oostrum wrote:

Luuk wrote:
  >
  > Are you saying that there are still 'hidden formated text' things in the
  > textfile that is created when one does do 'File/SaveAs/.txt' ??
  >
Save as .txt des save all text, including hidden text. Just try it out.


I think i have a different meaning of 'hidden text', than the average 
reader here  :-)


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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-05 Thread Piet van Oostrum

Luuk wrote:
 > 
 > Are you saying that there are still 'hidden formated text' things in the 
 > textfile that is created when one does do 'File/SaveAs/.txt' ??
 > 
Save as .txt des save all text, including hidden text. Just try it out.
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt

2016-05-04 Thread Piet van Oostrum

Walther Koehler wrote:

 > Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
 > > Walther Koehler wrote:
 > >  > Thank you.
 > >  > Your procedure is principally what I need.
 > >  > However, quite complicated for routine work.
 > >  >
 > >  > Walther
 > >
 > > The first part (replacing hidden text with colored text) could be done with
 > > a script.
 > yes, and the whole procedure could be packed in a basic makro.
 > The script can be called by a shell command within a makro, the replace 
 > functions realized with dispatcher commands.
 > 
 > Let us try it.
 > 
 > Walther
 
Even simpler:

Here is a Basic macro that just walks through the document, and deletes all 
hidden text. No unzipping, editing, etc. It just works inside the ODT document 
in LO.

It only considers normal plain text, i.e. not inside tables, sections, frames, 
footnotes, etc.
If you want that, these have to be specially coded.

REM  *  BASIC  *

Sub Main

Dim oEnum   'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
Dim oPar
Dim oSecEnum'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
Dim oParSection

oEnum = ThisComponent.Text.createEnumeration()
Do While oEnum.hasMoreElements()
oPar = oEnum.nextElement()
If oPar.supportsService("com.sun.star.text.Paragraph") Then
oSecEnum = oPar.createEnumeration()
Do While oSecEnum.hasMoreElements()
oParSection = 
oSecEnum.nextElement()
If oParSection.TextPortionType 
= "Text" AND oParSection.CharHidden Then
 oParSection.setString("")
End If
Loop

End If
Loop

End Sub
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-04 Thread Walther Koehler

Hallo,
thanks for your reply.
But I dont want to use another editor.

Walther

Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Barry Smith:
> Notepad was still in Windows distributions the last time I was aware.
> Windows 7 included it, and i think Windows 10 still includes Notepad.
> If not, there is a free program named Notepad++ .
>
> Another fairly independent way to distribute documents is by outputting to
> PDF. Every platform that I know of supports PDF.
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com
>
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lagin...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
> >Thanks for this information;
> >   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.
> >
> >Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
> > list;
> >   I am not interested in changing.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Tim Deaton <t...@timdeaton.org>
> > Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
> > formated text in odt)
> > To: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> > I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for
> > several years now as my text editor.  After using the free version
> > (NoteTab Light) for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still
> > don't use any features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the
> > authors deserved something for their excellent work.
> >
> > You can find the free version here:
> > http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light
> >
> > I think you'll really enjoy it.
> >
> > -- Tim Deaton
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:
> >
> > If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> >
> > > you'll have a non-formatted document;
> > >if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
> > >
> > > The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed
> > > on all MsFt machines, but now not;
> > >I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be
> >
> > glad
> >
> > > to upload to you if you so wish.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
> > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear LO users,
> > >
> > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> >
> > in a
> >
> > > simple way?
> > > Is it possible by a macro?
> > >
> > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > > without
> > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance
> > >
> > > Walther
> >
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-04 Thread Piet van Oostrum

Walther Koehler wrote:

 > Hi Robert
 > 
 > Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Robert Funnell:
 > > Walther -
 > >
 > > Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to
 > > find and remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as
 > > simple.)
 > Unfortunately, I am not used to emacs, although I know it is a very powerful 
 > editor.

Here is a simple recipe that you can use with any text editor (including sed):
Please do this on a copy of your original document, or make a backup copy first.

Unzip from your document the file content.xml:
> unzip HiddenText.odt content.xml

Edit content.xml, replace all occurrences of text:display="none" with 
fo:color="#800080"
This replaces the hidden text with a colored text. I have chosen magenta 
(#800080) here; you should choose a color that is not used in your document.
> sed -e 's/text:display="none"/fo:color="#800080"/' content.xml > content2.xml

Rename the new file to content.xml
> mv content2.xml content.xml

Replace content.xml in the ODT file
> zip HiddenText.odt content.xml

Now open the file in LibreOffice, and replace the magenta-colored text with 
empty text.

Edit > Find & Replace
Other Options > Format > Font Effects > Font color > Magenta

I found that Replace All did not work. It said that it replaced the text but it 
didn't (LO 5.1.2.2 on Mac OS X). The alternative Replace and Find extension, 
however, did work. There you choose 
[:::CharColor=8388736::] as search criterium (colors are given in decimal).

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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Walther Koehler

Hi Robert

Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Robert Funnell:
> Walther -
>
> Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to
> find and remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as
> simple.)
Unfortunately, I am not used to emacs, although I know it is a very powerful 
editor.

Walther
>
> - Robert
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:
> > Hallo,
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
> >> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> >> > in
> >>
> >> a
> >>
> >> > simple way?
> >>
> >> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding
> >> (.txt) Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text
> >> files.
> >
> > Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will
> > contain the hidden formated text.
> >
> > To make it very clear:
> > I do not care about the format information in the file.
> > I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file
> > before shipping.
> >
> > Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is
> > capable of removing certain xml tags in a file like
> >
> > blabla
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Walther
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> > > From: Walther Koehler 
> >> > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> >> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> >> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Dear LO users,
> >> > >
> >> > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> >> > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted
> >> > > text
> >> >
> >> > in a
> >> >
> >> > > simple way?
> >> > > Is it possible by a macro?
> >> > >
> >> > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the
> >> > > file without
> >> > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you in advance
> >> > >
> >> > > Walther



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster



I tend to have NoteTab and Notepad++ installed on most of the Windows 
systems - Win7 through Win10.


Both works fine for me.  I used one or the other when I was hand coding 
web pages back in the WinXP days.  This was before I switched to Ubuntu

Linux.


On 05/03/2016 05:13 PM, Barry Smith wrote:

Notepad was still in Windows distributions the last time I was aware.
Windows 7 included it, and i think Windows 10 still includes Notepad.
If not, there is a free program named Notepad++ .

Another fairly independent way to distribute documents is by outputting to
PDF. Every platform that I know of supports PDF.

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lagin...@gmail.com');>> wrote:


Thanks for this information;
   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.

Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
list;
   I am not interested in changing.



From: Tim Deaton <t...@timdeaton.org>
Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
formated text in odt)
To: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>


I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for several
years now as my text editor.  After using the free version (NoteTab Light)
for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still don't use any
features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the authors
deserved something for their excellent work.

You can find the free version here:
http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light

I think you'll really enjoy it.

-- Tim Deaton



On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:

 If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think

you'll have a non-formatted document;
if so, then using a simple text document should do this.

 The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed on
all MsFt machines, but now not;
I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be

glad

to upload to you if you so wish.



From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Dear LO users,

I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text

in a

simple way?
Is it possible by a macro?

(I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
without
hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)

Thank you in advance

Walther



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Barry Smith

Notepad was still in Windows distributions the last time I was aware.
Windows 7 included it, and i think Windows 10 still includes Notepad.
If not, there is a free program named Notepad++ .

Another fairly independent way to distribute documents is by outputting to
PDF. Every platform that I know of supports PDF.

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lagin...@gmail.com');>> wrote:

>Thanks for this information;
>   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.
>
>Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
> list;
>   I am not interested in changing.
>
>
>
> From: Tim Deaton <t...@timdeaton.org>
> Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
> formated text in odt)
> To: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
>
>
> I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for several
> years now as my text editor.  After using the free version (NoteTab Light)
> for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still don't use any
> features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the authors
> deserved something for their excellent work.
>
> You can find the free version here:
> http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light
>
> I think you'll really enjoy it.
>
> -- Tim Deaton
>
>
>
> On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>
> If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> > you'll have a non-formatted document;
> >if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
> >
> > The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed on
> > all MsFt machines, but now not;
> >I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be
> glad
> > to upload to you if you so wish.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
> > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >
> >
> > Dear LO users,
> >
> > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> in a
> > simple way?
> > Is it possible by a macro?
> >
> > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > without
> > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Walther
> >
> >
>
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Bruce Hohl

Perhaps LO Find & Replace using Regular expressions would work.
Not an LO solution but SED can be useful for such tasks.
Can you post a sample of the file contents?

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Robert Funnell 
wrote:

> Walther -
>
> Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to find and
> remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as simple.)
>
> - Robert
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:
>
> Hallo,
>> Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
>>
>>> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
>>> in
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>> > simple way?
>>>
>>> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding
>>> (.txt)
>>> Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text files.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will
>> contain the hidden formated text.
>>
>> To make it very clear:
>> I do not care about the format information in the file.
>> I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file
>> before shipping.
>>
>> Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is
>> capable of removing certain xml tags in a file like
>>
>> blabla
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Walther
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > > From: Walther Koehler 
>>> > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
>>> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
>>> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Dear LO users,
>>> > >
>>> > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
>>> > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted
>>> text
>>> >
>>> > in a
>>> >
>>> > > simple way?
>>> > > Is it possible by a macro?
>>> > >
>>> > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the
>>> file
>>> > > without
>>> > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
>>> > >
>>> > > Thank you in advance
>>> > >
>>> > > Walther
>>>
>>
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Robert Funnell

Walther -

Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to 
find and remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as 
simple.)

- Robert

On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:

Hallo,
Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:

> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in

a

> simple way?

File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding (.txt)
Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text files.

Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will 
contain the hidden formated text.

To make it very clear:
I do not care about the format information in the file.
I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file before 
shipping.

Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is capable of 
removing certain xml tags in a file like

blabla

Regards

Walther

...

> > From: Walther Koehler 
> > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >
> >
> > Dear LO users,
> >
> > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
>
> in a
>
> > simple way?
> > Is it possible by a macro?
> >
> > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > without
> > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Walther

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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Walther Koehler

Hallo,
Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in
>
> a
>
> > simple way?
>
> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding (.txt)
> Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text files.

Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will 
contain the hidden formated text.

To make it very clear:
I do not care about the format information in the file.
I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file before 
shipping.

Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is capable of 
removing certain xml tags in a file like

blabla

Regards

Walther

>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:37 PM, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Thanks for this information;
> >   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.
> >
> >Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
> > list;
> >   I am not interested in changing.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Tim Deaton <t...@timdeaton.org>
> > Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
> > formated text in odt)
> > To: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> > I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for
> > several years now as my text editor.  After using the free version
> > (NoteTab Light) for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still
> > don't use any features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the
> > authors deserved something for their excellent work.
> >
> > You can find the free version here:
> > http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light
> >
> > I think you'll really enjoy it.
> >
> > -- Tim Deaton
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:
> >
> > If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> >
> > > you'll have a non-formatted document;
> > >if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
> > >
> > > The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed
> > > on all MsFt machines, but now not;
> > >I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be
> >
> > glad
> >
> > > to upload to you if you so wish.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
> > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear LO users,
> > >
> > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> >
> > in a
> >
> > > simple way?
> > > Is it possible by a macro?
> > >
> > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > > without
> > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance
> > >
> > > Walther
> >
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread Bruce Hohl

> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in
a
> simple way?
File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding (.txt)
Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text files.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:37 PM, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks for this information;
>   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.
>
>Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
> list;
>   I am not interested in changing.
>
>
>
> From: Tim Deaton <t...@timdeaton.org>
> Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
> formated text in odt)
> To: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
>
>
> I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for several
> years now as my text editor.  After using the free version (NoteTab Light)
> for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still don't use any
> features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the authors
> deserved something for their excellent work.
>
> You can find the free version here:
> http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light
>
> I think you'll really enjoy it.
>
> -- Tim Deaton
>
>
>
> On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>
> If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> > you'll have a non-formatted document;
> >if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
> >
> > The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed on
> > all MsFt machines, but now not;
> >I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be
> glad
> > to upload to you if you so wish.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
> > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >
> >
> > Dear LO users,
> >
> > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> in a
> > simple way?
> > Is it possible by a macro?
> >
> > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > without
> > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Walther
> >
> >
>
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

2016-05-03 Thread anne-ology

   Thanks for this information;
  some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.

   Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
list;
  I am not interested in changing.



From: Tim Deaton <t...@timdeaton.org>
Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
formated text in odt)
To: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>


I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for several
years now as my text editor.  After using the free version (NoteTab Light)
for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still don't use any
features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the authors
deserved something for their excellent work.

You can find the free version here:
http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light

I think you'll really enjoy it.

-- Tim Deaton



On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:

If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> you'll have a non-formatted document;
>if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
>
> The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed on
> all MsFt machines, but now not;
>I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be glad
> to upload to you if you so wish.
>
>
>
> From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
> Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
> Dear LO users,
>
> I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in a
> simple way?
> Is it possible by a macro?
>
> (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> without
> hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Walther
>
>

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