Re: Send file over SMS

2005-08-02 Thread Mike Nwaogu
Sorry Guys I have a question along this line too, I'm
want to send an IMY [Imelody] text via SMS do I have
to convert it to hex? is there something I have to do
to make the recieving phone understand that I'm
sending a ringing tone?

I've tried sending it as is, but the phones don't
recognize it. Yet not all the phones that claim EMS
support actually support it. I hope I'm doing
something wrong.

Regards,
Mike

--- Ricky Wibowo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK...
 If just only an URL that refer to a file, how
 about i'm using apache 
 running wap protocol?
 it's same if we run wapbox?
 
 
 Ady Wicaksono wrote:
 
  No,
 
  WAP Push simply send a SMS contain an URL of your
 file (could be jar 
  file, midi file, ... others) to fetch by phone
 over WAP
  please open www.openmobilealliance.org
 
  Thx
 
  Ricky Wibowo wrote:
 
  how??
  is the file need to be converted into another
 file type??
 
  Ady Wicaksono wrote:
 
  You should send it using WAP Push
  Ricky Wibowo wrote:
 
  Dear all,
  I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar ,
 .mid, etc) into 
  handphone using SMS?
  Any one know??
 
  thanx
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Mike Nwaogu
Metro Technologies  Resources Ltd.
48 Tunde Idiagbon Road, Tanke, Ilorin.

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Re: Send file over SMS

2005-08-02 Thread Gareth Reakes

Hey Mike,

	We are doing stuff with EMS and have been having problems as well. We 
have not established exactly what is happening in all cases, but does 
depend on you smsc as well. One of our suppliers (over http) had to 
change their end to make it work properly. We have still not got it to 
work with clickatell. You need to check the format they expect very 
carefully. If you make any progress I would appreciate if you would 
share your knowledge!


Cheers,

Gareth


Mike Nwaogu wrote:

Sorry Guys I have a question along this line too, I'm
want to send an IMY [Imelody] text via SMS do I have
to convert it to hex? is there something I have to do
to make the recieving phone understand that I'm
sending a ringing tone?

I've tried sending it as is, but the phones don't
recognize it. Yet not all the phones that claim EMS
support actually support it. I hope I'm doing
something wrong.

Regards,
Mike

--- Ricky Wibowo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



OK...
If just only an URL that refer to a file, how
about i'm using apache 
running wap protocol?

it's same if we run wapbox?


Ady Wicaksono wrote:



No,

WAP Push simply send a SMS contain an URL of your


file (could be jar 


file, midi file, ... others) to fetch by phone


over WAP


please open www.openmobilealliance.org

Thx

Ricky Wibowo wrote:



how??
is the file need to be converted into another


file type??


Ady Wicaksono wrote:



You should send it using WAP Push
Ricky Wibowo wrote:



Dear all,
I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar ,


.mid, etc) into 


handphone using SMS?
Any one know??

thanx
















Mike Nwaogu
Metro Technologies  Resources Ltd.
48 Tunde Idiagbon Road, Tanke, Ilorin.

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+44-1865-811197  http://www.embracemobile.com



Re: Send file over SMS

2005-08-02 Thread Mike Nwaogu
Thanks gareth,
I'll let u know if there's something new about EMS
that you don't already know.

tip: send the hex encoded tone in the UDH of the
message and set the body of the message to hex
destination port -1 and source port -1

My question is about those fones that claim to support
IMY, but not via EMS. for instance SGH-SAMSUNG-A300
I've sent an EMS tone to that fone but it doesn't
work, I've sent plain IMY but nothing happened I've
sent even rtttl but nothing.

I'm just asking if there's something I have to do to
send IMY.

Regards,
Mike

--- Gareth Reakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Mike,
 
   We are doing stuff with EMS and have been having
 problems as well. We 
 have not established exactly what is happening in
 all cases, but does 
 depend on you smsc as well. One of our suppliers
 (over http) had to 
 change their end to make it work properly. We have
 still not got it to 
 work with clickatell. You need to check the format
 they expect very 
 carefully. If you make any progress I would
 appreciate if you would 
 share your knowledge!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Gareth
 
 
 Mike Nwaogu wrote:
  Sorry Guys I have a question along this line too,
 I'm
  want to send an IMY [Imelody] text via SMS do I
 have
  to convert it to hex? is there something I have to
 do
  to make the recieving phone understand that I'm
  sending a ringing tone?
  
  I've tried sending it as is, but the phones don't
  recognize it. Yet not all the phones that claim
 EMS
  support actually support it. I hope I'm doing
  something wrong.
  
  Regards,
  Mike
  
  --- Ricky Wibowo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 OK...
 If just only an URL that refer to a file, how
 about i'm using apache 
 running wap protocol?
 it's same if we run wapbox?
 
 
 Ady Wicaksono wrote:
 
 
 No,
 
 WAP Push simply send a SMS contain an URL of your
 
 file (could be jar 
 
 file, midi file, ... others) to fetch by phone
 
 over WAP
 
 please open www.openmobilealliance.org
 
 Thx
 
 Ricky Wibowo wrote:
 
 
 how??
 is the file need to be converted into another
 
 file type??
 
 Ady Wicaksono wrote:
 
 
 You should send it using WAP Push
 Ricky Wibowo wrote:
 
 
 Dear all,
 I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar ,
 
 .mid, etc) into 
 
 handphone using SMS?
 Any one know??
 
 thanx
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  Mike Nwaogu
  Metro Technologies  Resources Ltd.
  48 Tunde Idiagbon Road, Tanke, Ilorin.
  
  __
  Do You Yahoo!?
  Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
 protection around 
  http://mail.yahoo.com 
  
  
 
 -- 
 Gareth Reakes, Managing Director   Embrace
 Mobile
 +44-1865-811197 
 http://www.embracemobile.com
 
 


Mike Nwaogu
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Re: Send file over SMS

2005-08-02 Thread Alejandro Guerrieri
For EMS messages, you must send the whole message as a big UDH with no text content at all. I suggest you to use ringtonetools (An open source ringtone converter) to create the EMS file. Encode it as binary and send it using % 


For iMELODY messages, you must send the .imy file as a text message (I recommend you to hex encode the characters and newlines). This is mainly for legacy phones (mostly Motorolas). Put a newline as last character or it wont work.


Hope it helps,

Alejandro
On 8/2/05, Mike Nwaogu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks gareth,I'll let u know if there's something new about EMSthat you don't already know.
tip: send the hex encoded tone in the UDH of themessage and set the body of the message to hexdestination port -1 and source port -1My question is about those fones that claim to supportIMY, but not via EMS. for instance SGH-SAMSUNG-A300
I've sent an EMS tone to that fone but it doesn'twork, I've sent plain IMY but nothing happened I'vesent even rtttl but nothing.I'm just asking if there's something I have to do tosend IMY.
Regards,Mike--- Gareth Reakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Mike, We are doing stuff with EMS and have been having
 problems as well. We have not established exactly what is happening in all cases, but does depend on you smsc as well. One of our suppliers (over http) had to change their end to make it work properly. We have
 still not got it to work with clickatell. You need to check the format they expect very carefully. If you make any progress I would appreciate if you would share your knowledge!
 Cheers, Gareth Mike Nwaogu wrote:  Sorry Guys I have a question along this line too, I'm  want to send an IMY [Imelody] text via SMS do I
 have  to convert it to hex? is there something I have to do  to make the recieving phone understand that I'm  sending a ringing tone?   I've tried sending it as is, but the phones don't
  recognize it. Yet not all the phones that claim EMS  support actually support it. I hope I'm doing  something wrong.   Regards,  Mike 
  --- Ricky Wibowo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   OK... If just only an URL that refer to a file, how
 about i'm using apache running wap protocol? it's same if we run wapbox?   Ady Wicaksono wrote:  
 No,  WAP Push simply send a SMS contain an URL of your  file (could be jar  file, midi file, ... others) to fetch by phone
  over WAP  please open www.openmobilealliance.org  Thx 
 Ricky Wibowo wrote:   how?? is the file need to be converted into another  file type??
  Ady Wicaksono wrote:   You should send it using WAP Push Ricky Wibowo wrote:
   Dear all, I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar ,  .mid, etc) into
  handphone using SMS? Any one know??  thanx 
 
   Mike Nwaogu  Metro Technologies  Resources Ltd.  48 Tunde Idiagbon Road, Tanke, Ilorin.   __
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Re: Send file over SMS

2005-08-02 Thread Mike Nwaogu
Just to get u straight Sir, you mean send the
following line below in the body of the message for
sending IMELODY?

but EMS will be with the % after every 2 Xters?

820C8000424547494E3A494D454C4F44590D0A56455253494F4E3A312E320D0A464F524D41543A434C415353312E300D0A424541543A39300D0A4D454C4F44593A2A32653265336433633267326133673367336633653165326633673361326732663364336533236633673165326533643363320D0A454E443A494D454C4F44590D0A

--- Alejandro Guerrieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For EMS messages, you must send the whole message as
 a big UDH with no text 
 content at all. I suggest you to use ringtonetools
 (An open source 
 ringtone converter) to create the EMS file. Encode
 it as binary and send it 
 using % 
  For iMELODY messages, you must send the .imy file
 as a text message (I 
 recommend you to hex encode the characters and
 newlines). This is mainly for 
 legacy phones (mostly Motorolas). Put a newline as
 last character or it wont 
 work.
  Hope it helps,
  Alejandro
 
  On 8/2/05, Mike Nwaogu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 
  
  Thanks gareth,
  I'll let u know if there's something new about EMS
  that you don't already know.
  
  tip: send the hex encoded tone in the UDH of the
  message and set the body of the message to hex
  destination port -1 and source port -1
  
  My question is about those fones that claim to
 support
  IMY, but not via EMS. for instance
 SGH-SAMSUNG-A300
  I've sent an EMS tone to that fone but it doesn't
  work, I've sent plain IMY but nothing happened
 I've
  sent even rtttl but nothing.
  
  I'm just asking if there's something I have to do
 to
  send IMY.
  
  Regards,
  Mike
  
  --- Gareth Reakes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
   Hey Mike,
  
   We are doing stuff with EMS and have been having
   problems as well. We
   have not established exactly what is happening
 in
   all cases, but does
   depend on you smsc as well. One of our suppliers
   (over http) had to
   change their end to make it work properly. We
 have
   still not got it to
   work with clickatell. You need to check the
 format
   they expect very
   carefully. If you make any progress I would
   appreciate if you would
   share your knowledge!
  
   Cheers,
  
   Gareth
  
  
   Mike Nwaogu wrote:
Sorry Guys I have a question along this line
 too,
   I'm
want to send an IMY [Imelody] text via SMS do
 I
   have
to convert it to hex? is there something I
 have to
   do
to make the recieving phone understand that
 I'm
sending a ringing tone?
   
I've tried sending it as is, but the phones
 don't
recognize it. Yet not all the phones that
 claim
   EMS
support actually support it. I hope I'm doing
something wrong.
   
Regards,
Mike
   
--- Ricky Wibowo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
   OK...
   If just only an URL that refer to a file,
 how
   about i'm using apache
   running wap protocol?
   it's same if we run wapbox?
   
   
   Ady Wicaksono wrote:
   
   
   No,
   
   WAP Push simply send a SMS contain an URL of
 your
   
   file (could be jar
   
   file, midi file, ... others) to fetch by
 phone
   
   over WAP
   
   please open

www.openmobilealliance.orghttp://www.openmobilealliance.org
   
   Thx
   
   Ricky Wibowo wrote:
   
   
   how??
   is the file need to be converted into
 another
   
   file type??
   
   Ady Wicaksono wrote:
   
   
   You should send it using WAP Push
   Ricky Wibowo wrote:
   
   
   Dear all,
   I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar
 ,
   
   .mid, etc) into
   
   handphone using SMS?
   Any one know??
   
   thanx
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Mike Nwaogu
Metro Technologies  Resources Ltd.
48 Tunde Idiagbon Road, Tanke, Ilorin.
   
   
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   Mobile
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  Metro Technologies  Resources Ltd.
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Re: Send file over SMS

2005-08-02 Thread Alejandro Guerrieri
Mike,

For EMS, you'd send something like (only UDH, NO Text):

http://localhost:12345/cgi-bin/sendsms?from=..udh=%82%0C%80%0D%0A

You can concatenate many messages (usually up to 3) using special udh headers.

For Text iMELODY (NO UDH, only text)


http://localhost:12345/cgi-bin/sendsms?from=..text=%42%45%47%0D%0A

You CAN'T concatenate text imelody messages. Remember this is usually for legacy terminals (Motorola V60's andV120's, that kind of antiques ;) ).

In fact, this is the BEGIN:iMELODY END:... text encoded as HEX. It's not really necessary to encode the ascii characters, but since you're going to encode the newlines and special characters anyway, I've usually encode the whole message and never have had any problems.


Note: You can use %0D only instead of %0D%0A, it will save you a few but yet precious bytes for more notes :)

Hope it helps,

Alejandro.


On 8/2/05, Mike Nwaogu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to get u straight Sir, you mean send thefollowing line below in the body of the message forsending IMELODY?
but EMS will be with the % after every 2 Xters?820C8000424547494E3A494D454C4F44590D0A56455253494F4E3A312E320D0A464F524D41543A434C415353312E300D0A424541543A39300D0A4D454C4F44593A2A32653265336433633267326133673367336633653165326633673361326732663364336533236633673165326533643363320D0A454E443A494D454C4F44590D0A
--- Alejandro Guerrieri[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For EMS messages, you must send the whole message as a big UDH with no text
 content at all. I suggest you to use ringtonetools (An open source ringtone converter) to create the EMS file. Encode it as binary and send it using %For iMELODY messages, you must send the .imy file
 as a text message (I recommend you to hex encode the characters and newlines). This is mainly for legacy phones (mostly Motorolas). Put a newline as last character or it wont work.
Hope it helps,AlejandroOn 8/2/05, Mike Nwaogu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Thanks gareth,
  I'll let u know if there's something new about EMS  that you don't already know.   tip: send the hex encoded tone in the UDH of the  message and set the body of the message to hex
  destination port -1 and source port -1   My question is about those fones that claim to support  IMY, but not via EMS. for instance SGH-SAMSUNG-A300  I've sent an EMS tone to that fone but it doesn't
  work, I've sent plain IMY but nothing happened I've  sent even rtttl but nothing.   I'm just asking if there's something I have to do to  send IMY.
   Regards,  Mike   --- Gareth Reakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hey Mike,
 We are doing stuff with EMS and have been having   problems as well. We   have not established exactly what is happening in   all cases, but does
   depend on you smsc as well. One of our suppliers   (over http) had to   change their end to make it work properly. We have   still not got it to
   work with clickatell. You need to check the format   they expect very   carefully. If you make any progress I would   appreciate if you would   share your knowledge!
 Cheers, Gareth   Mike Nwaogu wrote:Sorry Guys I have a question along this line
 too,   I'mwant to send an IMY [Imelody] text via SMS do I   haveto convert it to hex? is there something I have to
   doto make the recieving phone understand that I'msending a ringing tone?   I've tried sending it as is, but the phones
 don'trecognize it. Yet not all the phones that claim   EMSsupport actually support it. I hope I'm doingsomething wrong.
   Regards,Mike   --- Ricky Wibowo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK...   If just only an URL that refer to a file, how   about i'm using apache   running wap protocol?
   it's same if we run wapbox? Ady Wicaksono wrote: No,
  WAP Push simply send a SMS contain an URL of your  file (could be jar   
   file, midi file, ... others) to fetch by phone  over WAP  please open
www.openmobilealliance.orghttp://www.openmobilealliance.org  Thx
  Ricky Wibowo wrote: how??   is the file need to be converted into
 another  file type??  Ady Wicaksono wrote:  
   You should send it using WAP Push   Ricky Wibowo wrote: Dear all,
   I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar ,  .mid, etc) into  handphone using SMS?
   Any one know??  thanx  
  
 Mike NwaoguMetro Technologies  Resources Ltd.48 Tunde Idiagbon Road, Tanke, Ilorin.
   __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam   protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com   --   Gareth Reakes, Managing Director Embrace
   Mobile   +44-1865-811197   http://www.embracemobile.comMike Nwaogu
  Metro Technologies  Resources Ltd.  48 Tunde Idiagbon Road, Tanke, Ilorin.   __  Do You Yahoo!?  Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
 protection 

Send file over SMS

2005-07-29 Thread Ricky Wibowo

Dear all,
I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar , .mid, etc) into handphone 
using SMS?

Any one know??

thanx



Re: Send file over SMS

2005-07-29 Thread Ady Wicaksono

You should send it using WAP Push
Ricky Wibowo wrote:


Dear all,
I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar , .mid, etc) into handphone 
using SMS?

Any one know??

thanx






--
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Re: Send file over SMS

2005-07-29 Thread Willy Mularto

Hi Ricky,
For all files except JAVA Application, AFAIK just use WAP Push :)

Regards


Willy Mularto
- Original Message - 
From: Ricky Wibowo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: users@kannel.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:42 PM
Subject: Send file over SMS



Dear all,
I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar , .mid, etc) into handphone 
using SMS?

Any one know??

thanx






Re: Send file over SMS

2005-07-29 Thread Ricky Wibowo

how??
is the file need to be converted into another file type??

Ady Wicaksono wrote:


You should send it using WAP Push
Ricky Wibowo wrote:


Dear all,
I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar , .mid, etc) into handphone 
using SMS?

Any one know??

thanx










Re: Send file over SMS

2005-07-29 Thread Ady Wicaksono

No,

WAP Push simply send a SMS contain an URL of your file (could be jar 
file, midi file, ... others) to fetch by phone over WAP

please open www.openmobilealliance.org

Thx

Ricky Wibowo wrote:


how??
is the file need to be converted into another file type??

Ady Wicaksono wrote:


You should send it using WAP Push
Ricky Wibowo wrote:


Dear all,
I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar , .mid, etc) into 
handphone using SMS?

Any one know??

thanx













--
Regards,
Ady Wicaksono
HP: +628562208680




Re: Send file over SMS

2005-07-29 Thread Ricky Wibowo

Do you mean it send over MMS or download using GPRS?
Any refrence? or tutorial?

Ady Wicaksono wrote:


You should send it using WAP Push
Ricky Wibowo wrote:


Dear all,
I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar , .mid, etc) into handphone 
using SMS?

Any one know??

thanx










Re: Send file over SMS

2005-07-29 Thread Ricky Wibowo

OK...
If just only an URL that refer to a file, how about i'm using apache 
running wap protocol?

it's same if we run wapbox?


Ady Wicaksono wrote:


No,

WAP Push simply send a SMS contain an URL of your file (could be jar 
file, midi file, ... others) to fetch by phone over WAP

please open www.openmobilealliance.org

Thx

Ricky Wibowo wrote:


how??
is the file need to be converted into another file type??

Ady Wicaksono wrote:


You should send it using WAP Push
Ricky Wibowo wrote:


Dear all,
I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar , .mid, etc) into 
handphone using SMS?

Any one know??

thanx

















Re: [Kannel-Users] Send file over SMS

2005-07-29 Thread Peter Beckman

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Ricky Wibowo wrote:


I wonder to know how to send a file (.jar , .mid, etc) into handphone
using SMS?


 SMS is capable of sending binary and plain-text content to handsets.

 Binary content would be like monophonic ringtones (RTTTF) and WAP Push
 messages.

 Plain text is just that -- plain text.  It could include a URL.

 WAP can be served by Apache without modification.  Many folks use PHP or
 Perl to write a script that sends the WAP header so the phone knows to
 expect WAP instead of the default HTML.

 All larger (i.e. 1Kb+) binary files, .mid, .jar, .mmf, etc are delivered
 via the Internet.  You can use WAP, though some phones can use HTML.
 There is a great PHP library to handle this called HawHaw.  Google it.

 In order to deliver large binary files, you must be running a web server
 that contains the content.  An SMS is sent to the handset (either a binary
 wap push, which contains a message + a URL and almost forces a phone to go
 to that URL, or a plain text SMS with the URL as part of the text) with
 the URL reference to the content you want to send them.

 Please note that WAP Push IS NOT supported by every carrier.  Some support
 it, some do it differently, some don't do it.  WAP Push is not guaranteed
 to work, while plain text almost always does.

Beckman
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