Re: [LOGO] site with Fluido skin and owl logo

2014-11-27 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
yes
and IMHO, it should more be like RWD: ok to remove the side bars on mobile 
phone, but keep them on desktop

Regards,

Hervé

Le mercredi 26 novembre 2014 20:10:13 Stephen Connolly a écrit :
 The very first thing I did when I say the link from Hervé was open it on my
 phone... We should make it readable when you do that ;-)
 
 On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Raphael Ackermann 
 
 raphael.ackerm...@gmail.com wrote:
  Probably few if any will visit it to download maven on their phone. But a
  lot of people are reading this on their phones or tablets. And if there's
  a
  link in an email I am not going to fetch my laptop to visit it.
  
  Raphael
  
  On Wed, Nov 26, 2014, 20:33 Barrie Treloar baerr...@gmail.com
  javascript:; wrote:
  
  On 26 November 2014 at 18:55, Stephen Connolly 
  
  stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:
   I also think we should remove the side-bars (and perhaps switch to a top
   bar menu) as they hinder mobile accessibility.
  
  I think the total number of people using a mobile phone to visit the maven
  website would be zero.
  
  
  
  most common purpose of using Maven.  The develop Maven page should be
  pushed onto another landing page too.
  
  This would allow the use of larger, more readable fonts as well as there
  is
  less clutter.
  I'm no web design guru, but all the online courses I've been reading over
  the last 6 months have had the Maven site redesign in mind.


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Re: [LOGO] site with Fluido skin and owl logo

2014-11-26 Thread Stephen Connolly
If the vote is successful I'll commit the SVG originals, and we can slice
and dice, eg maybe keep the owl out of the top bar, add an owl favicon, and
rework the overly busy front page.

I also think we should remove the side-bars (and perhaps switch to a top
bar menu) as they hinder mobile accessibility. We can use hopscotch to let
people know where the stuff is, much like clicking the Take a tour button
on the junit.org site revamp I did.

On Wednesday, 26 November 2014, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr wrote:

 I created a branch in svn to test in my own browser
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/fluido/

 and here is the mvn site result:
 http://people.apache.org/~hboutemy/site-fluido-owl/

 HTH

 Regards,

 Hervé

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Re: [LOGO] site with Fluido skin and owl logo

2014-11-26 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:25:56AM +, Stephen Connolly wrote:
[snip]
 I also think we should remove the side-bars (and perhaps switch to a top
 bar menu) as they hinder mobile accessibility.

Aha!  This may explain why, at the very moment that 16:9 monitors are
becoming ubiquitous, websites are all being redesigned as a skinny
rivulet of text down the center of a broad snowfield.

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Lead Technology Analyst

University Library
Indiana University - Purdue University Indianapolis
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Re: [LOGO] site with Fluido skin and owl logo

2014-11-26 Thread Barrie Treloar
On 26 November 2014 at 18:55, Stephen Connolly 
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:


 I also think we should remove the side-bars (and perhaps switch to a top
 bar menu) as they hinder mobile accessibility.


I think the total number of people using a mobile phone to visit the maven
website would be zero.

I think the left side bars is useful, but too cluttered.
The right side bar is also useful because it has all the related links but
takes up a lot of room.

At the moment the focus is on a new user, which most people are once in
their Maven experience.
We should make it easy for the new user to find the landing page for
download and the new user tour, and then redesign the front page for the
most common purpose of using Maven.  The develop Maven page should be
pushed onto another landing page too.

This would allow the use of larger, more readable fonts as well as there is
less clutter.
I'm no web design guru, but all the online courses I've been reading over
the last 6 months have had the Maven site redesign in mind.


Re: [LOGO] site with Fluido skin and owl logo

2014-11-26 Thread Raphael Ackermann
Probably few if any will visit it to download maven on their phone. But a
lot of people are reading this on their phones or tablets. And if there's a
link in an email I am not going to fetch my laptop to visit it.

Raphael

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014, 20:33 Barrie Treloar baerr...@gmail.com wrote:

On 26 November 2014 at 18:55, Stephen Connolly 
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:


 I also think we should remove the side-bars (and perhaps switch to a top
 bar menu) as they hinder mobile accessibility.

I think the total number of people using a mobile phone to visit the maven
website would be zero.



most common purpose of using Maven.  The develop Maven page should be
pushed onto another landing page too.

This would allow the use of larger, more readable fonts as well as there is
less clutter.
I'm no web design guru, but all the online courses I've been reading over
the last 6 months have had the Maven site redesign in mind.


Re: [LOGO] site with Fluido skin and owl logo

2014-11-26 Thread Stephen Connolly
The very first thing I did when I say the link from Hervé was open it on my
phone... We should make it readable when you do that ;-)

On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Raphael Ackermann 
raphael.ackerm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Probably few if any will visit it to download maven on their phone. But a
 lot of people are reading this on their phones or tablets. And if there's a
 link in an email I am not going to fetch my laptop to visit it.

 Raphael

 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014, 20:33 Barrie Treloar baerr...@gmail.com
 javascript:; wrote:

 On 26 November 2014 at 18:55, Stephen Connolly 
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:

 
  I also think we should remove the side-bars (and perhaps switch to a top
  bar menu) as they hinder mobile accessibility.

 I think the total number of people using a mobile phone to visit the maven
 website would be zero.



 most common purpose of using Maven.  The develop Maven page should be
 pushed onto another landing page too.

 This would allow the use of larger, more readable fonts as well as there is
 less clutter.
 I'm no web design guru, but all the online courses I've been reading over
 the last 6 months have had the Maven site redesign in mind.



-- 
Sent from my phone


Re: [LOGO] site with Fluido skin and owl logo

2014-11-26 Thread Ryan Connolly
On Nov 26, 2014 2:33 PM, Barrie Treloar baerr...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 26 November 2014 at 18:55, Stephen Connolly 
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  I also think we should remove the side-bars (and perhaps switch to a top
  bar menu) as they hinder mobile accessibility.


 I think the total number of people using a mobile phone to visit the maven
 website would be zero.


At least one anyway. I, myself often read docs on my phone browser, hence a
strong proponent of responsive UIs.  I can also confirm that the site
doesn't work very well due to layout issues on my phone.

 I think the left side bars is useful, but too cluttered.
 The right side bar is also useful because it has all the related links but
 takes up a lot of room.


 At the moment the focus is on a new user, which most people are once in
 their Maven experience.
 We should make it easy for the new user to find the landing page for
 download and the new user tour, and then redesign the front page for the
 most common purpose of using Maven.  The develop Maven page should be
 pushed onto another landing page too.

 This would allow the use of larger, more readable fonts as well as there
is
 less clutter.
 I'm no web design guru, but all the online courses I've been reading over
 the last 6 months have had the Maven site redesign in mind.


[LOGO] site with Fluido skin and owl logo

2014-11-25 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
I created a branch in svn to test in my own browser
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/fluido/

and here is the mvn site result:
http://people.apache.org/~hboutemy/site-fluido-owl/

HTH

Regards,

Hervé

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