Re: MS Word Suite 2003

[Wade Smart]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:05 AM, PMC  wrote:
>  my name is chris.I received word from my webmail company that the PHP 5.3 is 
> moving to PHP 5.5 and that XP and 2003 (word suite 2003 is no longer in toto 
> being supported).
> Does your latest version of open office resemble 2016's version of MS Word 
> Suite or does it resemble another version of MS word suite like 2003 that I 
> like or: 2007, 2010, 2013, 2016?
> I know many that do not like Microsoft Word Suites of 2010 and up to the 
> current but there is not much they can do about it.
> If I make open office my default word suite will it open every email from 
> anyone that sends me documents using Windows 2016 meaning all documents?
> Would you consider answering what for you here would probably be viewed as a 
> stupid question, but for me is valid.I loved the simplicity of the 2003 and 
> all the next versions got more complicated with bells and whistles for the 
> home user who still loves a the word suite?
> With open office can I keep the version that I have or should I download your 
> current one?
> thank you for your time. My server is changing the PHP on 11-30-15 so I do 
> need your answer or input.
> pmc
>

I might be missing it but, what does php have to do with office?

You know, you can just download it in a few minutes and see for yourself.
You can make it your default text app.

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MS Word Suite 2003

[PMC]

 my name is chris.I received word from my webmail company that the PHP 5.3 is 
moving to PHP 5.5 and that XP and 2003 (word suite 2003 is no longer in toto 
being supported).
Does your latest version of open office resemble 2016's version of MS Word 
Suite or does it resemble another version of MS word suite like 2003 that I 
like or: 2007, 2010, 2013, 2016? 
I know many that do not like Microsoft Word Suites of 2010 and up to the 
current but there is not much they can do about it.
If I make open office my default word suite will it open every email from 
anyone that sends me documents using Windows 2016 meaning all documents?
Would you consider answering what for you here would probably be viewed as a 
stupid question, but for me is valid.I loved the simplicity of the 2003 and all 
the next versions got more complicated with bells and whistles for the home 
user who still loves a the word suite?
With open office can I keep the version that I have or should I download your 
current one?
thank you for your time. My server is changing the PHP on 11-30-15 so I do need 
your answer or input.
pmc

RE: Norton Antivirus Quarantines Open Office English Language Pack

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Tim,
 
I am posting this response to the public users@ openoffice.apache.org where 
others may be interested in the same situation and have further suggestions.  I 
will forward this message to you privately, since your original message was to 
a private list.
 
I performed the same download on Windows 10.  I did not receive any warnings 
from the Internet Explorer 11 download security check.  
 
I also downloaded the Digital Signature file at  
< 
http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_langpack_en-US.exe.asc>,
 the secure location for the signature at the Apache Software Foundation.
 
I used signature-verification software (GnuPG for Windows) to confirm that 
language-pack .exe is the file that was signed, without any discrepancies.  I 
used the cryptographic signature check because it is the most difficult to 
forge and it will fail if there were any alterations after the signature file 
was computed.  Verification of the signature also confirms that there was no 
file corruption during download.  And it verifies that the signature was 
produced by one of the Apache OpenOffice release managers using their personal 
secret key to produce it.
 
Antivirus software will sometimes make false positive determinations.  Without 
seeing the exact message from your Norton Antivirus software, I do not know the 
basis that it’s programmer used for deciding to quarantine the file.  However, 
some antivirus software uses “reputation” to determine whether a file should be 
assumed guilty until considered innocent.  If there have not been many separate 
downloads of the English US language pack (since downloading the full 
installation is typical), that may be what happened.  And if Norton did not 
give a name for a specific malicious content, it may likely have been a 
reputation misfire.
 
SUGGESTION: In your Antivirus Options, see if you can have quarantined files 
not be automatically deleted.  Also, see if you can have downloads only be 
quarantined after checking with you first.  This will allow you to decide 
whether you want to allow a particular download and use other methods to 
determine a file’s authenticity when the download is something you know to be 
from an usually-reliable source.
 
That and other measures all give you more work to do to distinguish between 
false positives and actually-malicious software, unfortunately.  
 
It is difficult to do much about this at the project itself, although there 
might be improvements that could be made in how Apache OpenOffice programs and 
updates are made available.  Personally, I don’t expect that any time soon.
 
 
-   Dennis
 
 
 
From: tim
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 06:22
To: secur...@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Norton Antivirus Quarantines Open Office English Language Pack
 
I was surprised that my Norton antivirus software quarantined and removed file 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.2/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_langpack_en-US.exe/download
 

RE: Norton Antivirus Quarantines Open Office English Language Pack

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I forgot something important.  Modified version below.

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Tim,

I am posting this response to the public users@ openoffice.apache.org where 
others may be interested in the same situation and have further suggestions.  I 
will forward this message to you privately, since your original message was to 
a private list.

I performed the same download on Windows 10.  I did not receive any warnings 
from the Internet Explorer 11 download security check.  

I also downloaded the Digital Signature file at  
< 
http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_langpack_en-US.exe.asc>,
 the secure location for the signature at the Apache Software Foundation.

I used signature-verification software (GnuPG for Windows) to confirm that 
language-pack .exe is the file that was signed, without any discrepancies.  I 
used the cryptographic signature check because it is the most difficult to 
forge and it will fail if there were any alterations after the signature file 
was computed.  Verification of the signature also confirms that there was no 
file corruption during download.  And it verifies that the signature was 
produced by one of the Apache OpenOffice release managers using their personal 
secret key to produce it.

Antivirus software will sometimes make false positive determinations.  Without 
seeing the exact message from your Norton Antivirus software, I do not know the 
basis that it’s programmer used for deciding to quarantine the file.  However, 
some antivirus software uses “reputation” to determine whether a file should be 
assumed guilty until considered innocent.  If there have not been many separate 
downloads of the English US language pack (since downloading the full 
installation is typical), that may be what happened.  And if Norton did not 
give a name for a specific malicious content, it may likely have been a 
reputation misfire.

SUGGESTION: In your Antivirus Options, see if you can have quarantined files 
not be automatically deleted.  Also, see if you can have downloads only be 
quarantined after checking with you first.  This will allow you to decide 
whether you want to allow a particular download and use other methods to 
determine a file’s authenticity when the download is something you know to be 
from an usually-reliable source.

That and other measures all give you more work to do to distinguish between 
false positives and actually-malicious software, unfortunately.  

It is difficult to do much about this at the project itself, although there 
might be improvements that could be made in how Apache OpenOffice programs and 
updates are made available.  CORRECTION: When the Windows downloads are signed 
in a manner that is automatically verified by Windows itself, this problem may 
disappear.  That work is underway.  There may be further improvements that 
might be made at some future time.


-   Dennis



From: tim
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 06:22
To: secur...@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Norton Antivirus Quarantines Open Office English Language Pack

I was surprised that my Norton antivirus software quarantined and removed file 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.2/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_langpack_en-US.exe/download




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Re: MS Word Suite 2003

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 19-Nov-15 03:05, PMC wrote:

  my name is chris.I received word from my webmail company that the PHP 5.3 is 
moving to PHP 5.5 and that XP and 2003 (word suite 2003 is no longer in toto 
being supported).
Does your latest version of open office resemble 2016's version of MS Word 
Suite or does it resemble another version of MS word suite like 2003 that I 
like or: 2007, 2010, 2013, 2016?
I know many that do not like Microsoft Word Suites of 2010 and up to the 
current but there is not much they can do about it.
If I make open office my default word suite will it open every email from 
anyone that sends me documents using Windows 2016 meaning all documents?


OpenOffice will open Word documents attachments to emails. It is not a 
mailing tool.



Would you consider answering what for you here would probably be viewed as a 
stupid question, but for me is valid.I loved the simplicity of the 2003 and all 
the next versions got more complicated with bells and whistles for the home 
user who still loves a the word suite?


If you love the simplicity of MS Office 2003 than you have to ask 
yourself is OpenOffice that much simpler?
OpenOffice works different from MS Word and working with Styles in 
OpenOffice, which is more structured,

requires some time before you master this concept.


With open office can I keep the version that I have or should I download your 
current one?
thank you for your time. My server is changing the PHP on 11-30-15 so I do need 
your answer or input.


The fact that you provider change doesn't mean that you can't use Office 
2003 they only say they don't support it.



pmc





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Re: mailing labels

[Brian Barker]

At 21:19 14/11/2015 +, Karen Cook wrote:

How do I add another page of labels to the document I have started?


Are you using the official way to create labels (File | New > | 
Labels)? If so, create your page image - with the field names you 
require - but don't select the required records yet from the data 
source. Now go to File | Print... (yes: that may seem perverse!) and 
in response to the challenge "Do you want to print a form letter?", 
select Yes. Now you will see the data source display again and can 
make your selection of records, possibly requiring more than one page 
of labels.


You may find that the document produced has alternate pages blank. If 
so, this is because OpenOffice is accounting for the possibility that 
your printer may be set up to print double-sided. (You will want the 
backs of your labels to be blank!) If you are using a single-sided 
printer, you can suppress this by removing the tick at Tools | 
Options... | OpenOffice Writer | Print | Other | Print automatically 
inserted blank pages. You will discover this when you create test 
prints on waste paper before actually printing on your label stock.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: Falschrechner

[RA Stehmann]

On 18.11.2015 08:24, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

> Und ja, man kann echte Begrenzuungen einer verwendeten Programmiersprache 
> klar von
> Sachverhalten unterscheiden die nur auf Implementierungsentscheidungen
> zurückgehen.
> 
"Implementierungsentscheidungen" sind immer eine Abwägung. Natürlich
kann man in jeder Programmiersprache (Du hast es ja für Calc quasi
"bewiesen") Routinen einbauen, die ein genaueres Rechnen mit
Dezimalzahlen ermöglichen. Nur ist dies nicht nur Programmieraufwand,
sondern die Ausführung dieser Routinen ist auch Rechenaufwand und kostet
letztendlich Rechenzeit (oder anders ausgedrückt, es verlangsamt die
Programmausführung).

Dann stellt sich natürlich die Frage nach Aufwand und Ertrag. In wieviel
Prozent der Fälle führen die Routinen tatsächlich zu relevant genaueren
Ergebnissen und in wieviel Prozent der Fälle ist das dem Nutzer dann
noch egal (entweder aus Ignoranz oder weil der errechnete Wert eh'
jenseits aller Mess- oder sonstigen Genauigkeiten liegt)?

Ich glaube daher, dass man zu dem Ergebnis gelangen kann, dass man
denen, die auf genauere Berechnungen Wert legen, eigene diesbezügliche
Vorsorge zumuten kann und muss.

Gruß
Michael

My computer has no brain; so I have to use my own.







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Re: 4.1.2 spread

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 19-Nov-15 08:05, Charles Ferguson wrote:

Greetings!

I am running a 2 sheet project on Open Office 4.1.2.

When I try to run Page preview for sheet 1 it generates the Page preview for
sheet 2!  When I run page preview for page 2  it generates the page preview
for page 2 and can therefore print sheet 2. I am unable to print sheet 1 I
have tried to correct but to no avail


Select the area you want to print and go to Format --> Print Range ... 
Define, repeat it on both pages




Can you help solve?

Many thanks

McLean Ferguson





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4.1.2 spread

[Charles Ferguson]

Greetings!

I am running a 2 sheet project on Open Office 4.1.2.

When I try to run Page preview for sheet 1 it generates the Page preview for
sheet 2!  When I run page preview for page 2  it generates the page preview
for page 2 and can therefore print sheet 2. I am unable to print sheet 1 I
have tried to correct but to no avail

Can you help solve?

Many thanks

McLean Ferguson

Re: Confirm

[Elaine]

Confirm what?  I received your email as shown below.


The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the buck or 
coming back with excuses. ~~ Napoleon Hill



-Original Message-
From: Joan Carlin 
To: users 
Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2015 4:00 pm
Subject: Confirm



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Re: Confirm

[Maurice Howe]

There was no msg in your "msg" so please try again.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Joan Carlin  wrote:

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previously saved file

[Daniel Rauch]

Is there anyway to find a previously saved version of a Writer file?

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Confirm

[Joan Carlin]

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RE: Norton Antivirus Quarantines Open Office English Language Pack

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I have been provided the full Norton report where it is using, as expected, 
"reputation" and nothing about the files themselves to suggest that there is a 
Medium Risk to using the file.
 
I recommend that users *always* look at the details available on what a risk 
assessment is based on.
 
If that is the basis for a warning from an AntiVirus, please consider these 
adjustments:
 
[ ... ]
> SUGGESTION: In your Antivirus Options, see if you can have quarantined
> files not be automatically deleted.  Also, see if you can have downloads
> only be quarantined after checking with you first.  This will allow you
> to decide whether you want to allow a particular download and use other
> methods to determine a file’s authenticity when the download is
> something you know to be from an usually-reliable source.
[orcmid] 
 
You can also allow the quarantine (but don’t delete anything).  After looking 
at the explanation in the Antivirus history, then decide if you want to accept 
the file anyhow.
 
Here is a typical report, in a NAV product’s recent history.
 

 
Below is the explanation on which the Medium Risk WS.Reputation.1 finding is 
based.  Note that it is entirely because (1) the file is new and (2) few users 
of the antivirus (hundreds) have use it so far.  
 
There is nothing surprising here about the en_US Language Extensions for Apache 
OpenOffice 4.1.2 on Windows.  Most en_US downloads are of the full en_US 
installation, which already has the en_US Language Extensions.  
 
The en_US language extensions are intended for users of different language 
versions that want to be able to switch in and out of the English interface and 
related extensions.