Re: How to Find/Replace a break

2020-10-27 Thread Robert Funnell
My instructions to myself for this are at 
http://audilab.bme.mcgill.ca/~funnell/swil_ooo.html#replaceHardReturns


- Robert

On Tue, 27 Oct 2020, Aloris Te wrote:


Hi all,
So thankful for everyone that contributes and makes this product so
incredibly amazing!
I have one question: I am unable to do a find/replace on a line break [as
when a user hits "enter" and is reflected as the "paragraph symbol" when
the nonprinting characters (CTRL+F10) is active].
In other words, if I have an address list with 30 addresses in Writer, but
I want to move it over to the spreadsheet in address format, I don't want
each line to be put in each cell...I want the address to show up in the
spreadsheet as one complete address per cell. But because there is no
capability to find/replace the paragraph end, I cannot make the lines
appear in the same cell, with a soft return in the same cell.
I appreciate if someone could assist me to discover the right method of
find/replace.
Sincerely,
Hellen



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Re: Complaint: "buggy implementations"

2020-10-25 Thread Robert Funnell
I read the bug report and it seems to be exclusively about images that 
are copied and pasted? My understanding is that this thread applies 
also to images that are inserted from files, and that the behaviour is 
much less reproducible.


- Robert


On Sun, 25 Oct 2020, Peter Kovacs wrote:


Hello all,

Thanks for this discussion. Because it has been mentioned multiple times now, 
we have a bug report. There is no need to fill a new one.


https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=115994

A Bug report alone does not fix the Bug. However we have so many of them that 
this kind of discussion is really helpful to raise attention and to structure 
the Issues.


I guess not all have the Issue on Mac? Maybe if we ciould collect the current 
information, I can update the ticket:


I assume we have this now on windows, Linux, Mac? The report states only mac 
is affected.


Can you confirm that this happens on 4.1.7?

Am 25.10.20 um 11:29 schrieb Hagar Delest:

 Le 24/10/2020 à 21:38, William Lee Valentine a écrit :

 This seems straightforward. I do not understand why Mr. Olsson would
 find this disconcerting or difficult.

 I fully understand Mr. Olsson's complaint. In the Forum, we are indeed
 used to advise saving any picture to be embedded in AOO on the HD first
 and then to insert it with the relevant menu.
 However, this is not a very good user experience.

I agree.

 Note that I never filed a bug report for that. First because there already
 too many reports for too few coders and second because I often adjust the
 pic before actually inserting it in the document. 


Despite we are a view Coders it helps if Tickets are updated, and maybe it 
would make sense to link support emails / forum issues. It is quite hard to 
prioritize Tickets. However a prioritization is not a ranking for a fix ;)


Everything helps, even if there are only people giving feedback by updating 
the bugs. Just be nice when you do. The Software Product is on community 
support.



All the best

Peter


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Re: Complaint: "buggy implementations"

2020-10-25 Thread Robert Funnell
I've always had the impression that frames and images act the same in 
terms of anchoring and subsequent positioning (including sometimes 
unexpected behaviour of paragraph anchoring), and images can disappear 
from within frames, so frames don't seem to be a cure-all.


- Robert

On Sun, 25 Oct 2020, Dan Lewis wrote:

  There is a reason why graphics should be inserted in a frame and the latter 
should be anchored to an empty paragraph. When anchored to a page, the 
graphic was known to move to other places as in the end of the document.


Dan


On 10/25/20 09:45, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

 The only issue I have seen is when you have a large document with a lot of
 images and you start moving or shifting text around by copy and paste in
 the document.
 The behavior depend on how the images are anchored, in case the are
 anchored to a page it is sometimes possible that pictures are laying on
 top of each other.

 Each author should know his word processing tool and work(around) with the
 limitations.

 On 25/10/2020 12:11, Peter Kovacs wrote:

 Hello all,

 Thanks for this discussion. Because it has been mentioned multiple times
 now, we have a bug report. There is no need to fill a new one.

 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=115994

 A Bug report alone does not fix the Bug. However we have so many of them
 that this kind of discussion is really helpful to raise attention and to
 structure the Issues.

 I guess not all have the Issue on Mac? Maybe if we ciould collect the
 current information, I can update the ticket:

 I assume we have this now on windows, Linux, Mac? The report states only
 mac is affected.

 Can you confirm that this happens on 4.1.7?

 Am 25.10.20 um 11:29 schrieb Hagar Delest:

 Le 24/10/2020 à 21:38, William Lee Valentine a écrit :

 This seems straightforward. I do not understand why Mr. Olsson would
 find this disconcerting or difficult.

 I fully understand Mr. Olsson's complaint. In the Forum, we are indeed
 used to advise saving any picture to be embedded in AOO on the HD first
 and then to insert it with the relevant menu.
 However, this is not a very good user experience.

 I agree.

 Note that I never filed a bug report for that. First because there
 already too many reports for too few coders and second because I often
 adjust the pic before actually inserting it in the document. 


 Despite we are a view Coders it helps if Tickets are updated, and maybe
 it would make sense to link support emails / forum issues. It is quite
 hard to prioritize Tickets. However a prioritization is not a ranking for
 a fix ;)

 Everything helps, even if there are only people giving feedback by
 updating the bugs. Just be nice when you do. The Software Product is on
 community support.


 All the best

 Peter




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Re: Complaint: "buggy implementations"

2020-10-24 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sat, 24 Oct 2020, Dan Lewis wrote:


On 10/24/20 16:22, Robert Funnell wrote:

 On Sat, 24 Oct 2020, William Lee Valentine wrote:


 In response to Mr. Olsson's recent complaint about combining graphics
 with text in Writer: my documentation for Writer (distinct from that
 provided with OpenOffice) indicates that, when one wants a picture to
 appear in one of Writer's documents, one should click on "Insert >
Picture >   From file", then select the graphic from the listing
 displayed
 for a given directory, then click on "Open", and the graphic will appear
 (at the cursor position?) in the given document.

 This seems straightforward. I do not understand why Mr. Olsson would
 find this disconcerting or difficult.


 Inserting an image is indeed easy. mr. Olsson's concern was that, in a
 large document with a lot of images, the image positions may change in
 seemingly random ways and the images themselves may disappear. This does
 happen.


 In his reply, Martin Groensheij indicates that "the most reliable way
 is to insert [the graphic] in a frame." I assume that the frame helps
 because it fixes the position of the graphic within the document's
 borders.


 Most of my images are in frames because that's a good way to provide
 captions. My experience is that frames move around in the same way aa
 images do, and that frames don't prevent images from disappearing.


 My question is: does Writer's documentation indicate that it is
 preferable to insert graphics within frames?


 If you want captions, I think the answer is yes. If not, I don't know.

 - Robert


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/OOo3.3_User_Guide_Chapters

Here is the documentation on how to use Writer and other components of Apache 
Openoffice. I recommend Chapter 3 of the Getting Started Guide as well as the 
entire Writer Guide. In the latter, every chapter has a large number of 
screenshots without the problems that are seen in the OP's original email.


Note how they do this while also learning how it is done.

Dan


I'm afraid I don't understand your meaning. Certainly it helps to read 
the documentation, but the fact that the documentation contains 
screenshots that don't show the results of unexpected behaviours (or 
bugs) doesn't mean that there aren't any unexpected behaviours (or

bugs).

- Robert

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Re: Complaint: "buggy implementations"

2020-10-24 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sat, 24 Oct 2020, William Lee Valentine wrote:


In response to Mr. Olsson's recent complaint about combining graphics
with text in Writer: my documentation for Writer (distinct from that
provided with OpenOffice) indicates that, when one wants a picture to
appear in one of Writer's documents, one should click on "Insert >
Picture >  From file", then select the graphic from the listing displayed
for a given directory, then click on "Open", and the graphic will appear
(at the cursor position?) in the given document.

This seems straightforward. I do not understand why Mr. Olsson would
find this disconcerting or difficult.


Inserting an image is indeed easy. mr. Olsson's concern was that, in a 
large document with a lot of images, the image positions may change in 
seemingly random ways and the images themselves may disappear. This 
does happen.



In his reply, Martin Groensheij indicates that "the most reliable way
is to insert [the graphic] in a frame." I assume that the frame helps
because it fixes the position of the graphic within the document's
borders.


Most of my images are in frames because that's a good way to provide 
captions. My experience is that frames move around in the same way aa 
images do, and that frames don't prevent images from disappearing.



My question is: does Writer's documentation indicate that it is
preferable to insert graphics within frames?


If you want captions, I think the answer is yes. If not, I don't know.

- Robert


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Re: Scanning

2020-09-24 Thread Robert Funnell

Derek -

Your scanner is presumably producing images of text rather than actual 
editable text. Unless you want to retype all the text yourself, you 
will need to try using 'optical character recognition' (OCR). See 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_character_recognition and 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_optical_character_recognition_software


It's possible that the software that came with your scanner includes 
an OCR feature.


- Robert

On Thu, 24 Sep 2020, Derek Garner wrote:


I am not very computer literate. Can you help. I have installed Microsoft
scanner which works ok. The preview shows the document is properly
formatted.I download the scanned document to open office, however when I
highlight the document in the file it appears in a non readable form?



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RE: tired of the crashes

2020-08-09 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sun, 9 Aug 2020, Brian Barker wrote:


At 20:28 08/08/2020 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:
You should be able to set OpenOffice to save your document periodically. In 
LibreOffice this is under Tools > Options > Load/Save  > General. I think 
it's similar in OpenOffice.


As I mentioned only a few weeks ago, ...


I'm afraid I missed that. You're quite right that saving autorecovery 
information isn't the same as saving a new version of the file.


If users need to save frequently because they cannot discover or cannot be 
bothered to discover the reason for frequent crashes, they need to do so 
explicitly. ...


I don't understand the point here. If a user has turned on regular 
saving of autorecovery information, then if the application crashes 
they can (hopefully, if it works as intended) recover an almost 
up-to-date version of the file. Doesn't this give them as much (and as 
little) as regular explicit saves would do?


- Robert

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RE: tired of the crashes

2020-08-08 Thread Robert Funnell

David -

When a document is revised over and over again, after a while cruft 
can build up and cause problems. (This isn't just for OpenOffice.) If 
that is the problem, hopefully you just need to start afresh once and 
it will keep working for a long time. You could try selecting the 
entire document and then pasting it into a fresh document using Paste 
Special > Paste Unformatted Text. You'll get the content but will have 
to redo any formatting you have, hopefully just once.


You should be able to set OpenOffice to save your document 
periodically. In LibreOffice this is under Tools > Options > Load/Save 

General. I think it's similar in OpenOffice.


Changing your profile may cause you to lose some settings that you've 
customized, but it may be worth a try.


(I've addressed this to the list. Please include the list in your 
replies so everyone sees what's going on.)


- Robert


On Sat, 8 Aug 2020, David Carroll wrote:


Thanks for the polite response.  Most often, I revise an existing document.  
That is MUCH easier than starting all over.  I’ll take a show I wrote six 
months ago (I have 200 to choose from), and insert new songs, etc.

If I started from scratch each week, it would be far more time consuming.  This 
SHOULD be easy. Just plug in a few new songs and some new text, and it’s done.  
But it is rarely easy, because I can’t figure out how to get OpenOffice to auto 
save like Word does.  If I don’t “save” every minute or so, I’m screwed.  I am 
also creating some data for an upcoming book.  It is basically a listing of 
concerts, in various categories.  And yes, they occasionally crash too.  Not as 
often…but it has happened.

I can try to change my profile, I guess it can’t hurt.

Thanks,
David



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From: Robert Funnell
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To: users@openoffice.apache.org
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Subject: Re: tired of the crashes

David -

Johnny Rosenberg is right that corrupted profiles seem to cause a lot
of misery.

If that doesn't help: When you start a new show, do you start from
scratch with a new document, or do you revise an existing document? If
the latter, then there might be some corruption in that document. If
the former, do you create documents other than for the radio show, and
do they also crash?

- Robert


On Sat, 8 Aug 2020, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:


By the way, did you try to reset your profile? That should probably be my
first suggestion…

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=12426#p58403


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


Den sön 9 aug. 2020 kl 01:17 skrev Johnny Rosenberg 
:



Den lör 8 aug. 2020 kl 23:12 skrev David Carroll <3...@epbfi.com>:


Every week I have to write a radio show.  Every week, Open Office
crashes, and I have to rewrite.  I have tried finding a way to back up my
text, but nothing works.

Is there a cure for this?



Probably only the usual cure: File a bug report and include as much
information as possible and then wait for a fix.
Other fixes are maybe not Apache OpenOffice-related in the same way, such
as switching to another operating system to see if that helps. Or, if
nothing works, try another office suite, such as LibreOffice or any of the
others (at least until the issue in Apache OpenOffice is fixed). I guess
I'm not supposed to suggest that, but if nothing helps and you need to
work, what can you do? The job has to be done, right?


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg



David Carroll

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Re: tired of the crashes

2020-08-08 Thread Robert Funnell

David -

Johnny Rosenberg is right that corrupted profiles seem to cause a lot 
of misery.


If that doesn't help: When you start a new show, do you start from 
scratch with a new document, or do you revise an existing document? If 
the latter, then there might be some corruption in that document. If 
the former, do you create documents other than for the radio show, and 
do they also crash?


- Robert


On Sat, 8 Aug 2020, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:


By the way, did you try to reset your profile? That should probably be my
first suggestion…

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=12426#p58403


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


Den sön 9 aug. 2020 kl 01:17 skrev Johnny Rosenberg 
:



Den lör 8 aug. 2020 kl 23:12 skrev David Carroll <3...@epbfi.com>:


Every week I have to write a radio show.  Every week, Open Office
crashes, and I have to rewrite.  I have tried finding a way to back up my
text, but nothing works.

Is there a cure for this?



Probably only the usual cure: File a bug report and include as much
information as possible and then wait for a fix.
Other fixes are maybe not Apache OpenOffice-related in the same way, such
as switching to another operating system to see if that helps. Or, if
nothing works, try another office suite, such as LibreOffice or any of the
others (at least until the issue in Apache OpenOffice is fixed). I guess
I'm not supposed to suggest that, but if nothing helps and you need to
work, what can you do? The job has to be done, right?


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg



David Carroll

3...@epbfi.com

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Re: Adobe OO for Linux...?

2020-04-25 Thread Robert Funnell

I guess you mean Apache OO.

Have you looked at http://www.openoffice.org/download/ ?
There are 2 flavours of packages for Linux, Deb and RPM. Mageia seems 
to use RPM?


- Robert


On Sat, 25 Apr 2020, Martin Rosenfeld wrote:


Is there an AOO distribution for Linux, specifically for Mageia 7?

Martin Rosenfeld


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Re: Please help

2020-04-05 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:


At 13:38 05/04/2020 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:
> o Complete suggestions are not provided: merely partial ones as far as 
> they are common.


I don't understand what you mean by this. Complete words are offered, even 
rare ones if they've been harvested from the user's documents.


If the questioner's "60minutePKG" and "60minutemassage" had both been 
harvested (I've excised the spaces to allow the effect to show), typing "60m" 
would show what is common between the possibilities, so just
"60minute", not either of the complete texts. S/he said that individual 
suggestions appeared, which is indeed what happens in a spreadsheet.


Display of what's in common has never been my experience. For example, 
I have 'accelerating' and 'acceleration' in my list, and as soon as I 
type 'acc' it offers 'accelerating', not just 'accelerati'. I've often 
wished it would display just what's in common. (I'm actually using LO 
at the moment but my recollection is that it's the same in AOO.)


- Robert


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Re: Please help

2020-04-05 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:


At 12:58 05/04/2020 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 11:03 05/04/2020 -0400, Kellie English wrote:
> > I cannot for the life of me figure out how to delete unwanted auto fill 
> > suggestions. If I want to type '60 minute massage', it comes up even 
> > after I type "60", which is great, but now i have all of these other 
> > tabbed
> > suggestions that I have to tab through before I can get to "60 minute 
> > massage" based on other entries I have to make for other 60 minute 
> > services. Is there any way I can sort through or even rearrange the 
> > order
> > of such automated fill ins? Right now, when I type "60" here is the 
> > order of auto fill suggestions:

> > 60 HS
> > 60/EVT
> > 60 minute PKG
> > 60min/AO
> > (I now have to tab through all of these to finally get to ;)
> > 60 minute massage
> > Which is the main default of what I usually need. Please help! I would 
> > like to rearrange the 60 minute massage to pop up first every time, or 
> > to just delete ALL auto fills and then start fresh?
> 
> I'm having to guess that you are talking about entering data into a 
> spreadsheet document, not a word processor one. Is that so?


I assumed that the message was about a word-processing document. If so, if 
you go to Tools > AutoCorrect > AutoCorrect Options there's a 'Word 
Completion' tab that seems to give control over what word completion is 
done.


I had wondered that but ruled it out, for various reasons:
o The default minimum word length is 10, so it is unlikely that entries as 
short as some of the questioner's examples would be harvested.


My minimum word length is 8, I don't remember setting it to that. 
Maybe hers was somehow set to a small value? Maybe unlikely.



o Only single word entries are harvested.


Good point.

o Complete suggestions are not provided: merely partial ones as far as they 
are common.


I don't understand what you mean by this. Complete words are offered, 
even rare ones if they've been harvested from the user's documents.



o The user would not be able to tab through suggestions, as s/he describes.


I assumed she (they) meant control-tabbing.

- Robert

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Re: Please help

2020-04-05 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:


At 11:03 05/04/2020 -0400, Kellie English wrote:
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to delete unwanted auto fill 
suggestions. If I want to type '60 minute massage', it comes up even after 
I type "60", which is great, but now i have all of these other tabbed
suggestions that I have to tab through before I can get to "60 minute 
massage" based on other entries I have to make for other 60 minute 
services. Is there any way I can sort through or even rearrange the order
of such automated fill ins? Right now, when I type "60" here is the order 
of auto fill suggestions:

60 HS
60/EVT
60 minute PKG
60min/AO
(I now have to tab through all of these to finally get to ;)
60 minute massage
Which is the main default of what I usually need. Please help! I would like 
to rearrange the 60 minute massage to pop up first every time, or to just 
delete ALL auto fills and then start fresh?


I'm having to guess that you are talking about entering data into a 
spreadsheet document, not a word processor one. Is that so?


I assumed that the message was about a word-processing document. If 
so, if you go to Tools > AutoCorrect > AutoCorrect Options there's a 
'Word Completion' tab that seems to give control over what word 
completion is done.


Also, if you type 1 or 2 more characters after '60', the suggestions 
offered will be refined.


- Robert


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Re: Normal English Spelling

2018-08-05 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sat, 4 Aug 2018, j g wrote:


I notice you operate in a bastardized US spelling of proper English words.


It's not clear what you're asking about. Can you provide examples?


Is there a way to clean that up at my end? Or do you have an app or extension 
to correct
It?


I assume that your problem is with spell checking within Writer. Do 
you have spell checking working? Do you have the correct dictionary 
installed (i.e., for one of the more than 20 available variants of 
English) and the correct language setting in the document?


- Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frustrated with stupid behavior while trying to do a project.

2018-06-04 Thread Robert Funnell

Peggy, I'm glad it's working now. - Robert

On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, Peggy wrote:


Robert, if I chose the table menu, I find the "protect cells" feature. I
used it and could type in the cell. But when I tried to cut and paste from
my other cell, it wouldn't paste, and when I tried to type in it again,
there was the same problem. So I think I clicked the protect cells feature
for both the one I cut the text from, and the one I was trying to paste to
and this time it worked. I sure can't figure out what happened, but am
grateful it's working now. Hopefully this doesn't happen often because I
need to finish this tonight.
Thanks again for your help!
Peggy

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Peggy <33mar...@gmail.com> wrote:


Thanks for the reply, Robert. I did right click the cell, but every thing
is grayed out except "select" which selects the column, row or table;
"Number Format" and "Table properties" And I can't find anything in those
that lets me select "unprotected cells."

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Robert Funnell 
wrote:


Peggy -

I don't really understand Wade Smart's response, but have you tried
right-clicking in the affect cell and selecting 'Unprotect Cells'?

- Robert

On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, Wade Smart wrote:

From the help menu:


You can enable a selection cursor in a read-only text document or in the
Help.
Choose Edit - Select Text or open the context menu of a read-only
document
and choose Select Text. The selection cursor does not blink.

--
Registered Linux User: #480675
Registered Linux Machine: #408606
Linux since June 2005


On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 6:27 PM, Peggy <33mar...@gmail.com> wrote:


I am using a table to list all of our scattered names, phone numbers,
etc
to keep them together in alphabetical order. It means I guess where the
names go and cut and paste to put entries in the correct places. All has
been fine, until now.

Now suddenly, I can't cut and paste one of the cells. It cuts, but won't
paste where I want it to go.. I tried to just write the information into
the cell and get this message: "Read only content; Write protected
content
cannot be changed. No modifications will not be accepted"

It's my document for heaven's sake. I didn't write protect it. I've
tried
to find a place under the table menu where something got changed and
can't.
If I have to I'll try save it under another name and then see if the
problem sticks, but I shouldn't have to.

Can anyone tell me how this glitch happened and if there's anything I
can
do to change it?

I've been working all day and hoped to finish tonight. What's wrong with
this program! I would be so grateful for an answer!

Peggy



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Re: Typeface Daniele Dumont

2018-04-14 Thread Robert Funnell
This is an OTF font that requires special handling. According to the 
usage notes (notice d’utilisation) on the provider's Web site, the 
font is compatible with LibreOffice version 5.3 and higher. According 
to the FAQ, 'OpenOffice does not handle contextual variants ... On the 
other hand, LibreOffice does handle them' (dated 2017 Nov 10, my 
translation). So the solution seems to be to use LibreOffice, unless 
OpenOffice has gained this ability since last November.


- Robert

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018, Luz Tulipe wrote:


Hi,

I would like tu buy a typeface (font) called "Police Cursive Dumont
Maternelle" and that we can choose in this page :
http://legestedecriture.fr/produit/cursive-dumont/
I'm a teacher and I can't work without this typeface.

The problem is that we can't use it with open office.

Could you please solve this problem ?

Thanks a lot,

Mme Bruguerolle
(France)


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Re: need older version

2018-03-08 Thread Robert Funnell

On Fri, 9 Mar 2018, Diana Ashley PhD wrote:


Hi!  I have some documents made in an older version of Open Office (they’re 
dated in 2004) and though I searched online, I can’t figure out to download a 
version that will open them.  I currently run Open Office 4.1.1 and don’t want 
to overwrite it.

Thanks!

Diana


Are they .sxw files? I just successfully opened a .sxw file from 2004 
with Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0. There were some error messages about 
Basic and Java that I haven't looked into, but the document itself 
seems fine.


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Re: Specific use of OO.Org

2017-10-20 Thread Robert Funnell

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, Doug Rhodes wrote:


Hello,

   Difficult to get to you. I need a question answered. I have a older disc for 
OO.O vs.3.1 ?. I see there is a newer offering. My question is this (as I never 
really learned or needed to learn) all the apps of the old one. I have many, many 
PDF docs that have way too many pages in them. Adobe says I need to buy their 
Acrobat Professional XI or subscribe to their DC version for a monthly rate to be 
able to edit-(extract & delete)  unnecessary pages and blank pages that come 
with the user manuals that you get online. Is this possible to do with OO 4.1.4 ? I 
think that is what the latest version is? Or do I have to bite the bullet and buy 
their product?  (Adobe Acrobat DC )


I don't think OO is appropriate for that purpose. My personal 
preference for what you describe is PDFsam (http://pdfsam.org/).

It's free and open-source.

- Robert


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Re: I can't use your product...

2017-10-08 Thread Robert Funnell

Yuriy -

I don't see a screenshot in your message, I'm not sure if attachments 
are allowed in this list. If you want help, perhaps you could try 
explaining the latest symptoms in words, and what operating system 
you're using.


- Robert


On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Jura Rúdnev wrote:


Dear sirs,

A lot of years ago I had been trying use the OO a few times. It was raw and
could not being used. Now I have tried again. Yes, your product became more
interesting, but I can't use it again...

I need some base managing. I downloaded, installed OO4 and started OO Base.
It has would like to have JRE. Normally, when one program needs one other,
the link corresponding is presented, but not now... Ok, I found out what is
JRE, downloaded it and restarted my computer... Now I have OO4, Java,
wasted nearly 400MB of the my 4G internet (is not free!) and your OO4 is
not working... Look at this screenshot!

Well, a'm going to a free Wi-Fi for download MS Access, because I won't
waste more than 600 MB for nothing...

Yuriy


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Re: reveal codes

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Funnell

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Rory O'Farrell wrote:


On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:08:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Robert Funnell <robert.funn...@mcgill.ca> wrote:


...
To me the value of RevealCodes in WordPerfect was not just in seeing
the structure but in therefore being able to position the cursor
before or after (or inside or outside of) a particular style. This
would be just as useful in OO and LO.


If one turns on /Format /Styles and Formatting, it clearly indicates the 
current formatting style at the cursor position.

/View /Non printing characters is helpful in showing spacing and paragraph/line 
ends.


As far as I can tell, neither of these things helps what I'm referring 
to. As an example: let's say you apply the Emphasis character style to 
a sequence of characters, and then later want to add some following 
characters that don't have that style. If you just position your 
cursor after the last styled character, the text you add will also be 
styled. You need to position your cursor after the first _unstyled_ 
character that follows, insert your new text, and then back up and 
delete that first unstyled (and now unwanted) character. With 
RevealCodes turned on in WordPerfect, you would just position your 
cursor after the end-of-style indicator and start entering unstyled 
text.


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Re: reveal codes

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Funnell

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote:


Let me clarify.  The “codes” revealed are not what your thinking of — tags with 
bracketed text, XML code, etc..  I think that the viewing option should more 
properly be called “Reveal Structure” since it simply shows what formatting 
instruction has been given and where, specifically things like, typeface and 
size, indentations, line spacing, etc..


You're right that what is wanted is not an exact display of the actual 
internal coding but rather some visual indication of what's going on.


To me the value of RevealCodes in WordPerfect was not just in seeing 
the structure but in therefore being able to position the cursor 
before or after (or inside or outside of) a particular style. This 
would be just as useful in OO and LO.


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Re: reveal codes

2017-08-09 Thread Robert Funnell

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

The reveal codes shows bad formatting issues, if you learn to use Styles 
properly there is nothing to reveal.


Sometimes one has to work with documents created by other people.

And often one would like to be able to place the cursor before or 
after an invisible format or style 'code' (or xml tag). I think that 
the possibility (in principle) of doing so was demonstrated by the 
macros originally developed by Iannz (referred to on my Web page 
mentioned in an earlier post in this thread).


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Re: reveal codes

2017-08-09 Thread Robert Funnell

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote:


I used WordPerfect for 15 years because of two reasons, besides that it’s a 
great product.
1)  I hate Microsoft.
2)  I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP.  It is the most 
powerful tool in word processing, eliminating all sorts of bad formatting 
issues.

I can’t easily use WP anymore since all of our computers have gone to Macs and 
Corel won’t come back with their Mac version.  I find OpenOffice a very 
suitable replacement.  But … Why can’t/won't OpenOffice add a similar feature?

Stephen Nichols
Aldie, Virginia


You may be interested in looking at bug 3395 from 2002:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3395

Many people have said that it's impossible. A couple of people have 
worked on macros that demonstrate that it is possible (cf. my old

discussion at
http://audilab.bme.mcgill.ca/~funnell/swil_ooo.html#reveal).

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Re: Speech marks

2017-03-04 Thread Robert Funnell

This may be because of the particular keyboard layout and/or language
setting that you're using. What you're describing seems to correspond
to the standard speech marks (or quotation marks) used in Dutch and a
number of other languages, as shown at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark

- Robert


On Sat, 4 Mar 2017, Ellen Blenkinsop wrote:


Whenever I try to use speech marks "" with SHIFT 2, it doesn't work.
The first time I press it, it looks like a double set of commas. The
following times are only opening speech marks.



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Re: PAF & FTL FILES

2016-12-11 Thread Robert Funnell

Iris -

I'm not familiar with Family Search and Family Tree Legends, but in 
general I'd think that, whatever software you were running on your old 
machine, you probably want to get it for your new machine also, if 
it's still available. If you do get the same software for the new 
machine, I don't understand why you would need to type in any of your 
existing data. Presumably you could then open your existing data files 
in the same way that you're used to doing?


But I don't really understand when you say that you had all your 
documents in Excel. Are you saying that you opened PAF and FTL files 
with Excel? If so, can't you open them with OpenOffice Calc?


(I'm cc'ing the users@openoffice.apache.org list so other people can 
benefit from any assistance you get and also so other people can 
contribute. You should also include the list in your replies.)


- Robert

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Iris Williams wrote:


Dear Robert

Thank you so much for your quick reply, Dell sent me the link to Open Office 
4.12 I am finding this a very good program hopefully I will be able to open 
Family Search and Family Tree Legends soon and also open them on my flash 
drive.


I used Office 2003 Proffessional for Windows XP and I had all my documents on 
Microsoft Excel. My Dell laptop andesktop Windows XP are still workjing but I 
bought Windows 10 as they are not secure now every day I regret it I loved 
Windows XP it was so easy to use.


Thank you again, does this mean I have got to download Family Search and 
Family Tree Legends onto Windows 10 to get it work? I hope not as there is a 
lot of data I will have to type it would be so much easier if I could just 
put it on from the flash drive (if I can get this to work), all my other 
documents are working.


Regards
Iris

From: "Robert Funnell" <robert.funn...@mcgill.ca>Windows XP laptop and des
- Original Message - 
To:  <users@openoffice.apache.org>; <mar...@groenescheij.com>

Cc:  <iris.j.willi...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: PAF & FTL FILES



 On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

>  On 11/12/16 8:06 AM, iris.j.willi...@btinternet.com wrote:
> >  I had Windows XP laptop I have now changed to Windows 10. I had two 
> >  files
> >  in documents on Windows XP they are PAF and FTL I cannot open them on 
> >  Open
> >  Office 4.12 can you tell me how to do this please as I cannot open 
> >  them on

> >   Windows 10 I also have them on a flash drive.
> 
>  Both File types aren't Open Document files, but if you were able to open 
>  them under Windows XP it's most likely that your defaults under Windows 
>  10 has been changed (Thanks to Micro Softies).

>  You can change them in the Control Panel.

 What software did you use to open the files under Windows XP? I see PAF
 and FTL both identified as files for family-tree software. If that's what
 they are, you'll need to transfer your family-tree software to your new
 system. OpenOffice can't be expected to know what to do with them.

 - Robert


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Re: My entire novel was replaced with hash[marks]

2016-11-25 Thread Robert Funnell

On Fri, 25 Nov 2016, James Knott wrote:


...
AOO supports both backup copies and autorecovery.
...


That's true, but the support could be more robust.

I found this for AOO 3:

<<
Save AutoRecovery information every

Choose whether to enable AutoRecovery and how often to save the 
information used by the AutoRecovery process.


AutoRecovery in OpenOffice.org overwrites the original file. If you 
have also chosen Always create backup copy, the original file then 
overwrites the backup copy. If you have this set, recovering your 
document after a system crash will be easier; but recovering an 
earlier version of the document may be harder. 




So there's a trade-off. Has this changed recently?

And what are the default settings? More than once I've discovered that 
I did not have backup and timed AutoRecovery enabled, although I 
thought that I did.


The Emacs text editor creates timed autosave and multiple numbered 
backup copies by default and can then be flexibly configured. I've 
often wished that applications like AOO would do the same.


- Robert


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Re: Research for School

2016-08-13 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sat, 13 Aug 2016, Doug wrote:

...

I don't believe Open Office can write docx format output.
..
If docx format is required, SoftMakerOffice's word processor can do it
and there is a free version for non-commercial use. It doesn't have all
the bells and whistes of the paid version, which is in the $80 range. I
don't have any financial or other interest in Softmaker.


For the record: LibreOffice can write the .docx format.

- Robert


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Re: URGENT - Re: spellcheck error again after installing new update Re: spellcheck

2016-08-10 Thread Robert Funnell

A quick Web search turns up the following from 2015:

<<
You should start by deleting or renaming your OpenOffice user profile.
As you are using Windows do this by:
Close OpenOffice and the Quickstarter. Open File Explorer. Copy and
paste %appdata%\OpenOffice\4 in the File Explorer Address Bar and
press Enter. Rename the "user" folder. Start OpenOffice.

A quick search on the forum would have found many replies dealing with
this problem.




Does this help? (Are you using MS Windows?)


On Wed, 10 Aug 2016, Chris Addington wrote:


hi uninstalled again

installed older version openoffice 4.1.1 - STILL NO SPELLCHECK

**

i appreciate that openoffice are providing community software but that does 
NOT justify invading peoples homes/machines with faulty/untested 
software/updates


please advise how to fix this problem

Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

On 10/08/2016 16:24, Chris Addington wrote:

 hi brian

 installed update (english spelling & hyphenation dictionaries & thesaurus
 version 2016.05.01) , again no spellcheck

 uninstalled openoffice, restarted

 installed open office 4.1.2, restarted

 now no spellcheck

 i urgently need spellcheck to function

 what to do?

 regardschris

 Chris Addington Pr.Eng.

 On 10/08/2016 15:32, Chris Addington wrote:
>  hi brian
> 
>  thanx4that
> 
>  i subsequently uninstalled & reinstalled - spellcheck works but now have 
>  update message again (english spelling & hyphenation dictionaries & 
>  thesaurus version 2016.05.01) have ignored for now
> 
>  will try again  later & restart machine
> 
> 
>  thanxagainchris
> 
>  Chris Addington Pr.Eng.
> 
>  On 10/08/2016 13:58, Brian Barker wrote:

> >  At 13:05 10/08/2016 +0100, you wrote:
> > >  this morning (aug 10) i had a notice on openoffice text doc ...
> > 
> >  I'm not sure what sort of notices you might be receiving. Could this 
> >  be fake and a malicious attack?
> > 
> > >  ... of a new update (for dictionaries i think) ...
> > 
> >  If you only *think*, it may be difficult for anyone to help.
> > 
> > >  ... clicked update - spellcheck not working ...
> > 
> >  Are you sure? Some of those misspelled words may be correctly spelled 
> >  different words.
> > 
> > >  ... (again shows correct setting on bottom of screen (English (UK))
> > 
> >  That's not a global setting; it merely shows you the active language 
> >  at the insertion point. It tells you nothing about the language set 
> >  for your misspelled words. To see the language there, you need to 
> >  select the word or region of text before examining the indication in 
> >  the Status Bar. Alternatively, if all your text is the same language, 
> >  you could select it all and then set the language.
> > 
> >  o Have you restarted OpenOffice since the "update"? Have you restarted 
> >  your system?
> > 
> >  o Right-click in the text and go to Character... | Font | Language. Is 
> >  "English (UK)" preceded by the icon of a blue tick with the text 
> >  "ABC"? If not, you do not have a dictionary correctly installed.
> > 
> >  o If you have the English (UK) version of OpenOffice, you shouldn't 
> >  need an additional extension, as the dictionary you need is bundled 
> >  with the program.
> > 
> >  o You can go to Tools | Extension Manager... and see what is 
> >  installed. You can remove or disable items selectively there.
> > 
> >  o You can go to the web site and discover what versions are available. 
> >  You may be able to confirm what "update" you installed. You could 
> >  download the correct extension and install this in place of whatever 
> >  is causing you trouble.
> > 
> >  I trust this helps.
> > 
> >  Brian Barker - privately
> > 
> >


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Re: How to open zipped file

2016-07-31 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sun, 31 Jul 2016, kazuko wrote:


Hi
My open office documents were sent to iCloud Drive iPad from PC Windows 10.
But I had no idea these files are zipped. I installed app for unzip but these 
couldn't adjust open office files. Please help me how to unzip my files.

Kazuko


I'm not sure what you mean. Do the file names end in .zip now, or 
still .odt? If they end in .zip, your unzip utility should be able to 
unzip them. If they end in .odt, why do you want to unzip them? It's 
true that .odt files are actually zipped files, but there's normally 
no need to unzip them yourself. OpenOffice unzips them itself when it 
opens them and zips them again when it saves them.


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Re: (SCL > 3): Possible Scam

2016-07-30 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, Wagar, Hannah Lee wrote:


Hello,


I downloaded Open Office on my Macbook Pro a couple years ago. I was on the phone with a 
tech support guy who helped me complete the download, then he had me download a program 
that was supposed to "clean up" my computer, and rid it of viruses etc. In the 
past year I've received 2-3 unlisted no caller ID calls from a man (seemingly from India 
or another foreign country to me) asking me about this download and telling me to call a 
toll free number. I'm concerned that I've been scammed, and have read a forum from 2011 
about possible credit card fraud using Apache Open Office's name. I would really 
appreciate it if someone could help me with this issue, as I am concerned about my 
privacy when using Open Office or even making online purchases.

Thank you,


Hannah


I don't know what you should do about your credit card. You should 
probably download a new copy of OpenOffice directly from 
http://www.openoffice.org/. You could ask here if you have problems 
installing it. You might want to consider having somebody local that 
you trust check your computer for viruses and other nasty stuff.  And 
presumably you don't want to call any dubious toll-free numbers.



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Re: Open office been sold for fee

2016-07-30 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, richard s wrote:


Hi

I purchased software on eBay open office with seagulls on here's the link

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OPEN-OFFICE-2016-for-Microsoft-Windows-Home-Student-365-Digital-Download-/291725612179?hash=item43ec339493:g:DrkAAOSwll1WuLnr

That I paid for which I've just found out is totally free from Apache and
here the seller is making money and profit from your free software

Thank you


I don't think it's actually illegal and I don't think there's much 
that can be done about it by the OpenOffice people. The seller claims 
to offer technical support but it may not be worth much. The seller 
also says there's a '60 Day Money Back Guarantee' so you can ask for 
your money back.



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Box size [was Re: Conveting files from Word Perfect x7]

2016-07-30 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, Ace Rosman wrote:

When I open OpenOffice I get a very small box to write on and am not able to 
even see what I type.   In the past, the box filled a good part of the 
monitor and was a pleasure to use.  How can I enlarge the box?


If I understand correctly, the Window (or box) for your OpenOffice is 
smaller than it used to be. I don't know why that would have happened, 
but can't you resize the window to make it bigger by clicking and 
dragging the edges or corners of the window?


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Re: OppenOffice converted all my files to another format

2016-04-27 Thread Robert Funnell

Doug -

When you say that Word 'no longer opens' them, do you mean that when 
you double-click on them they're opened in OpenOffice? If so, it means 
that the file association has been changed. Can you right-click on a 
.rtf file and choose to open it with Word?


- Robert

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Doug Wilson wrote:


Hello,

I have just spent the last 20 minutes navigating your help and contact pages 
and can make no sense of them, so I am contacting you directly in hopes of 
finding 1. an explanation, and 2. a solution to the following:

Recently I downloaded your free open office software so I could view client 
files I received by email. It works great.

The problem is that all my original MSWORD template documents have been 
converted to the .rtf open office format. WORD no longer opens any of them. I 
certainly did not do this, noir would I have granted open oiffice permission to 
do so.

So what’s going on? I want my files returned.

Thank you.

Doug Wilson
www.amethystboutique.com
https://www.facebook.com/AmethystBoutique.NS


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Re: I have lost everything

2015-03-10 Thread Robert Funnell

Christine -

I don't remember Windows Vista very well, but if you right-click on 
one of your documents, do you see something about choosing the default 
program to open them with? If so, you can tell it to use your new 
OpenOffice and that will then apply to all of your documents.


(Please do Reply to All if you answer, so your message also goes to 
the whole list and not just to me.)


- Robert


On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Christine Lawrence wrote:

Thank you so much for getting back so quickly Robert. I'm in heart attack 
territory here!


I have Windows Vista on my computer. I have been using Open Office 3.3 very 
happily for years.


I haven't lost any actual ocuments. They all seem to be there. I just can't 
open any of them by the usual method of clicking on the document icon. I am 
getting messages that seem to imply I am going to have to convert hundreds of 
docs using Doxillon or something similar - one by one?   Wouldn't it be 
easier to just reinstall 3.3?


Christine

I haven't
- Original Message - From: Robert Funnell 
robert.funn...@mcgill.ca

To: Christine Lawrence cflawre...@homemail.com.au
Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: I have lost everything



 On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Christine Lawrence wrote:

  Please help-. I am hysterical here.
 
  I have just had the bright idea to upgrade my Open Office program. The 
  upgrade from 3.3  to 4.1.1 went swimmingly except NOW I CANNOT OPEN ANY 
  OF THE HUNDREDS OF DOCUMENTS ON MY SYSTEM. I REPRESENT 20 SPORTING 
  ORGANIZATIONS AND I AM DEAD IN THE WATER. Can I please reinstall 3.3 ???
 
  It never occurred to me that a program could be designed to do this.
 
  Christine


 How exactly are you trying to open the documents? And what exactly happens
 when you try? What operating system are you using? Windows?

 Many people have done such an upgrade without losing anything, so I'm
 optimistic that you haven't lost your documents.

 - Robert



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Re: I have lost everything

2015-03-10 Thread Robert Funnell
Maybe I wasn't clear, or maybe I'm not clear about what you're doing. 
Instead of double-clicking on the document icon, if you right-click, 
does a menu pop up that allows you do choose which program to use to 
open the file?


On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Christine Lawrence wrote:


Sorry Robert

I calmed down enoughnow  to realise about  reply all after the last email.

I can't actually open the 4.1.1. version of any of my documents. If I double 
click I just get the Doxillon converter, not the document itself. So I have 
to click on 'convert' before I can see the doc. If I click on the converted 
document I first get the Apache Open Office logo and then the doc opens . I 
can right click and click on default formatting but it just creates an 
identical document that I then have to save. All the formatting remains a 
disaster.


The Libreoffice will be down loaded in about 5 mins so I'll see if that makes 
any difference.


Christine

- Original Message - From: Robert Funnell 
robert.funn...@mcgill.ca

To: Christine Lawrence cflawre...@homemail.com.au
Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: I have lost everything



 Christine -

 I don't remember Windows Vista very well, but if you right-click on one of
 your documents, do you see something about choosing the default program to
 open them with? If so, you can tell it to use your new OpenOffice and that
 will then apply to all of your documents.

 (Please do Reply to All if you answer, so your message also goes to the
 whole list and not just to me.)

 - Robert


 On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Christine Lawrence wrote:

  Thank you so much for getting back so quickly Robert. I'm in heart 
  attack territory here!
 
  I have Windows Vista on my computer. I have been using Open Office 3.3 
  very happily for years.
 
  I haven't lost any actual ocuments. They all seem to be there. I just 
  can't open any of them by the usual method of clicking on the document 
  icon. I am getting messages that seem to imply I am going to have to 
  convert hundreds of docs using Doxillon or something similar - one by 
  one?   Wouldn't it be easier to just reinstall 3.3?
 
  Christine
 
  I haven't
  - Original Message - From: Robert Funnell 
  robert.funn...@mcgill.ca

  To: Christine Lawrence cflawre...@homemail.com.au
  Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
  Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:51 AM
  Subject: Re: I have lost everything
 
 
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Christine Lawrence wrote:
  
 Please help-. I am hysterical here.
   
I have just had the bright idea to upgrade my Open Office program. 
The upgrade from 3.3  to 4.1.1 went swimmingly except NOW I CANNOT 
OPEN ANY OF THE HUNDREDS OF DOCUMENTS ON MY SYSTEM. I REPRESENT 20 
SPORTING ORGANIZATIONS AND I AM DEAD IN THE WATER. Can I please 
reinstall 3.3 ???
   
 It never occurred to me that a program could be designed to do 
 this.
   
 Christine
  
   How exactly are you trying to open the documents? And what exactly 
   happens

when you try? What operating system are you using? Windows?
  
Many people have done such an upgrade without losing anything, so I'm

optimistic that you haven't lost your documents.
  
- Robert

 


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Re: I have lost everything

2015-03-10 Thread Robert Funnell
Congratulations! It's good to stick with it long enough for the fairy 
dust to materialize :-)


- Robert

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Christine Lawrence wrote:


YES

I went to open with and selected open office writer as the default program 
and magic fairy dust happened. Even my letterhead has come back. I have some 
quite big submission docs and I've checked on them. I also have whole 
chapters of a book that seem not to be unduly effected. Some of the 
formatting is a little odd but nothing like it was previously. I THINK YOU 
HAVE DONE IT.


Thank you so much all of you for making an effort for me. It is nice to be 
rescued by strangers.


I think I will go an eat now.

Many kind thoughts

Christine

- Original Message - From: Robert Funnell 
robert.funn...@mcgill.ca

To: Christine Lawrence cflawre...@homemail.com.au
Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: I have lost everything



 Maybe I wasn't clear, or maybe I'm not clear about what you're doing.
 Instead of double-clicking on the document icon, if you right-click, does
 a menu pop up that allows you do choose which program to use to open the
 file?

 On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Christine Lawrence wrote:

  Sorry Robert
 
  I calmed down enoughnow  to realise about  reply all after the last 
  email.
 
  I can't actually open the 4.1.1. version of any of my documents. If I 
  double click I just get the Doxillon converter, not the document itself. 
  So I have to click on 'convert' before I can see the doc. If I click on 
  the converted document I first get the Apache Open Office logo and then 
  the doc opens . I can right click and click on default formatting but it 
  just creates an identical document that I then have to save. All the 
  formatting remains a disaster.
 
  The Libreoffice will be down loaded in about 5 mins so I'll see if that 
  makes any difference.
 
  Christine
 
  - Original Message - From: Robert Funnell 
  robert.funn...@mcgill.ca

  To: Christine Lawrence cflawre...@homemail.com.au
  Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
  Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:23 PM
  Subject: Re: I have lost everything
 
 
Christine -
  
   I don't remember Windows Vista very well, but if you right-click on 
   one of
   your documents, do you see something about choosing the default 
   program to
   open them with? If so, you can tell it to use your new OpenOffice and 
   that

will then apply to all of your documents.
  
(Please do Reply to All if you answer, so your message also goes to 
the

whole list and not just to me.)
  
- Robert
  
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Christine Lawrence wrote:
  
Thank you so much for getting back so quickly Robert. I'm in heart 
attack territory here!
   
I have Windows Vista on my computer. I have been using Open Office 
3.3 very happily for years.
   
I haven't lost any actual ocuments. They all seem to be there. I 
just can't open any of them by the usual method of clicking on the 
document icon. I am getting messages that seem to imply I am going 
to have to convert hundreds of docs using Doxillon or something 
similar - one by one?   Wouldn't it be easier to just reinstall 3.3?
   
 Christine
   
 I haven't
 - Original Message - From: Robert Funnell 
robert.funn...@mcgill.ca

 To: Christine Lawrence cflawre...@homemail.com.au
 Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:51 AM
 Subject: Re: I have lost everything
   
   
   On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Christine Lawrence wrote:

Please help-. I am hysterical here.
 
  I have just had the bright idea to upgrade my Open Office 
  program. The upgrade from 3.3  to 4.1.1 went swimmingly except 
  NOW I CANNOT OPEN ANY OF THE HUNDREDS OF DOCUMENTS ON MY SYSTEM. 
  I REPRESENT 20 SPORTING ORGANIZATIONS AND I AM DEAD IN THE 
  WATER. Can I please reinstall 3.3 ???
 
It never occurred to me that a program could be designed to do 
  this.
 
Christine

 How exactly are you trying to open the documents? And what exactly 
 happens

   when you try? What operating system are you using? Windows?

   Many people have done such an upgrade without losing anything, 
 so I'm

   optimistic that you haven't lost your documents.

   - Robert

   


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Re: OpenOffice Writer

2014-12-15 Thread Robert Funnell
In the View menu under Toolbars there's an item called Drawing that 
you can turn on. Is that what you're looking for?


On Mon, 15 Dec 2014, Bridget Letcher wrote:


I just got an update for openoffice, which I did update, but...

I'm not very good at explaining, but I'll give it a try. A few years ago I discovered in openoffice writer 
that I can create with lines (dashed or solid), squares, circles,  other options, making them thin, 
fat, long short,  so on. I could also choose colors as well. I don't know if these options have a name 
or not (I don't recall seeing anything). These options ran along the bottom left of the page. After the 
update I opened one of my documents (openoffice writer) to change a few things in something I was working 
on only a few hours before the update took place  now these options are gone! What happened  can 
I get them back? I'm very low income  few things are free these days. This was something fun I could 
do for free  would like to get it back. I don't know if it's not a free option anymore  the 
update took them away, or if I'm just not looking in the right place to bring it back.

Please let me knowThank you,Bridget



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Re: Auto Spell Check

2014-09-17 Thread Robert Funnell
A Google search for 'open office spell check highlights every word' 
led me to this forum thread from 2012:

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=56074

It points to a trouble-shooting procedure:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16512

The bottom line in that user's case was to reset the user profile. If 
you don't know how to do that, there are explicit instructions toward 
the end of the thread.


Does this help in your case?

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Feral Hassan wrote:


Dear Sir / Madam,
Yesterday I opened a document that I have been working on for some time now and 
found that, for some reason, every single word (in UK English) has been 
underlined in red by the Auto Spell Check. I have gone through the help 
instructions and ensured that all settings are set to English (UK), so this 
cannot be the problem. I can of course turn the Auto Spell Check off, but then 
I won't know if I've spelt anything incorrectly.  I even tried opening a new 
document to see if it would do the same on that, and it did. I also tried 
downloading the latest version of your product, same again.Any ideas why it is 
doing this all of a sudden when the day before, having saved my document, it 
was fine? It's almost as if it's suddenly basing everything on a foreign 
language dictionary.Any assistance for would be much appreciated.
Many thanks,Feral Hassan



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Re: Insert images

2014-07-07 Thread Robert Funnell

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Max Moroni wrote:


Hi all, i have noted that if you insert an image in OO the software Switch 
automatically to the last page of the document. This is very annoying because 
when you have document of many pages after inserting an image you have to 
scroll back the document up to the inserting page. I have noted that this dont 
happen in libre office. Any chance to correct this function?


I've never seen this behaviour. Which version of OO and which 
operating system are you using?



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Re: Read only

2014-06-24 Thread Robert Funnell
With my e-mail client, if I open the document directly from the e-mail 
client then it is read-only. Clicking on the 'Edit File' button in the 
toolbar offers the possibility of editing a copy of the file.


Alternatively, if I first save the document somewhere and then open it 
from there, it is not read-only and I can edit it immediately.


On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, and...@base.be wrote:


To Brian Baker,

When I send the attached sheet-feuille- my contact can open the document and
the message -
Read only - En lecture seule - is coming on the screen.
So he cannot modify any element.

When my contact send me a simular document I have the same message.

What is wrong? What is the solution to avoid the message and to be able to
mofify some element?

I had a look on the help but I don't find a solution.

Sincerely

A. Lecocq



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Accessibility [was Re: It sucks]

2014-06-24 Thread Robert Funnell

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:

I can tell you it sucks under OS X. I asked to make it accessible with 
VoiceOver but received no response. Someone suggested LibreOffice your 
competitor so going to try that.


According to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Accessibility
(last modified 2013 Oct 17):
'OpenOffice interacts well in general with the VoiceOver screen reader 
that is built into Mac OS X' as well as with various assistive 
technologies under MS Windows and under GNU/Linux GNOME.

Is this not true?

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Re: Text and pictures

2014-06-18 Thread Robert Funnell
In Writer, right-click on the picture that you've inserted into the 
document and look for the Wrap item in the menu that pops up. 
Experiment with the different options. You may also want to experiment 
with the Alignment item in the same menu.





On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Darren Smith wrote:


Hi there
I need help in either transferring text from writer into draw, or layering in 
write so that I can add pictures.
I wrote a lengthy poem for my wedding which my wife would like to have framed, 
consequently I would like to copy and paste some pictures on to it.
I figured the easiest way would be to copy and paste the text into the draw 
progamme but when I did this it seemed to only copy the first line of text and 
expanding the box only made the text bigger.
I tried to see if I could copy and paste a picture into the poem but this only 
succeeded in moving the text down to make way for the picture.
Please help
Darren


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Re: WORD COUNTER

2014-05-21 Thread Robert Funnell

On Wed, 21 May 2014, Mayers, Jennifer A. wrote:


We noticed that there does not seem to be a word counter.  This is required for 
essays and some research papers my son is doing, so we do not want to download 
this program in unless it has the word counter.  Could you let us know about 
this?


There is a word counter. It's in the Tools menu.


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Re: error - spelling mistake in special character heading

2014-05-20 Thread Robert Funnell

On Tue, 20 May 2014, Robert Funnell wrote:


On Tue, 20 May 2014, David McGuire wrote:


 ...
 I noticed when scrolling through the special character list by heading
 that
 there is one called Canadan Aboriginal Symbols. Should this not be
 CANADIAN Aboriginal Symbols?
 ...


For which font are you seeing that?


For Courier and DejaVu Serif, for example, I see Canadian Aboriginal 
Syllables, spelled correctly.


For Times New Roman, Arial, Courier New I don't see that subset at 
all.


I don't have American Typewriter, which you mentioned off-line.

This is for Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 under MS Windows 7.

I don't know where or how the font subset names are defined.


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Re: no icon for Track Changes

2014-05-01 Thread Robert Funnell

On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Barker wrote:


At 09:29 01/05/2014 +0300, Ivan Penev wrote:
I do NOT find any icon for your Track Changes feature; please advise how 
I create or customize such an icon. Actually, it could be very helpful to 
have it on the toolbar.


o Open a text (Writer) document.
o Either: go to Tools | Customize... | Toolbars; under OpenOffice.org 
Toolbars, select your preferred toolbar.
o Or: click the down arrow at the extreme right of your preferred toolbar and 
select Customize toolbar... .

o Click Add... .
o Under Category, select Edit.
o Under Commands, scroll down and select Record.
o Click Add and Close.
o Your new icon appears in the list of Commands; use the up and down arrows 
to move it to our preferred position in the toolbar.

o OK.

The new Record button acts as a toggle, of course.


On my Web page at http://audilab.bme.mcgill.ca/~funnell/swil_ooo.html 
are two icons that I created for this purpose, and a pointer to 
instructions for associating icons with commands. The instructions 
given above by Brian Barker can then be used to add the commands and 
their new icons to the toolbar.


- Robert


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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-28 Thread Robert Funnell

On Mon, 28 Apr 2014, Robert Holtzman wrote:


On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 08:48:20PM -0700, Terry Lugviel wrote:

It was from OpenOffice.org.


Hey genius, if you didn't download from openoffice.apache.org it's your
own goddamn fault. ^^


I don't understand the point of your message. openoffice.apache.org 
itself links to www.openoffice.org, which is equivalent to 
openoffice.org (or OpenOffice.org).



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Re: Open office

2013-11-09 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013, Wade Smart wrote:


On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Cliff calvertcliff...@gmail.com wrote:

Could someone pleas tell me how to delete just one file from my list of files 
in open office 4 please.


Do you mean your recently opened list?

At the bottom - clear list.


If you are indeed asking about the recently-opened-files list, then 
the last time I looked into it there was no convenient way to 
selectively remove one or more files from the list. The only method 
seemed to be to manually edit the Common.xcu file, which I haven't 
tried yet.


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Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, Doug wrote:


On 06/22/2013 10:35 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

/snip/



If the WP lobby feel so strongly about not having Reveal Codes, why don't 
they do something about it and write an extension to do just that?



Maybe it's because we're not programmers. We're people who just want to
use a word processor without all the folderol of styles. ...


You can use OO/LO just fine without styles, and I suspect that most 
users do. You won't be taking full advantage of the software, but you 
can do it and be productive. The same goes for WordPerfect, which also 
has styles.



Now if OO and LO are so great, why can't they deal with ...


This stuff had nothing to do with this thread.


...
It's hopeless, folks. OO/LO have decided for you that if you want to use
them, you will have to get a book on style-programming. Enjoy!


Again, this is just not correct.

- Robert


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Re: Codes

2013-06-22 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, Toki Kantoor wrote:


On 06/22/2013 05:17 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

Being able to surface some UI ability to reveal the sources of the feature 
controls that govern a point in the user-perceived document text may require 
both deep and wide modification of current code.  That does not make the 
feature undesirable.  It makes it costly.  Even with agreement among 
developers, there is the problem of enrolling open-source developers to 
investigate and introduce it.  And it won't happen by unilateral contribution 
alone.  There must be serious testing and other work to ensure that nothing is 
destabilized.


Set up stylist to display _applied_ _character_ styles.
setup the formatting bar, to display the current paragraph style name,
along with some of the more commonly changed parameters.

That setup will provide more useful information about what is going with
the styles one is using, than the reveal codes extension that was
created almost a decade ago.

My guess is that that will provide the functional equivalent of reveal
codes as used in WP.


No, not at all, in my experience. One of the things RevealCodes was 
useful for was positioning the cursor inside or outside a given style 
setting. For example, type 2 characters, say 'ab', and bold one of 
them. Position the cursor between them and type another character. As 
far as I can tell, you have no control over whether you get the style 
of the 'a' or the style of the 'b'.


Another example: highlight some text, then delete the highlighted 
text. Most of the time the highlighting style will still be hiding 
there waiting for you, and when you type something else it gets 
highlighted. With something like RevealCodes you would be able to see 
it there and delete it.


Without being able to see what's going on, you (I) end up having to 
apply new character styles on top of existing ones blindly, with the 
result being a dog's breakfast that clogs up the document and may be 
difficult to debug. If I sound unhappy, it's because lately I've been 
spending a lot of time doing multiple revisions of such documents 
written by others. I recently looked into the content.xml file for one 
of these documents, which was responding slowly, and it was horrifying 
how messy it had become.


- Robert

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Re: Codes

2013-06-20 Thread Robert Funnell

Pat -

About Reveal Codes: I loved them in WP, and there's no reason why 
something comparable couldn't be implemented in OO and in fact 
somebody cobbled together a kind of demo at one point (in spite of 
what people say about styles). But we don't have them.


About styles: Yes, that's the elegant way to use OO and it would be 
good to learn about them. However, it doesn't obviate the need for 
something like Reveal Codes sometimes. (If you were really masochistic 
you could unzip your .odt file and examine the content.xml file to 
diagnose your problem.)


About your actual problem: I really don't understand what's happening 
to you, or where the blue could be coming from if you've stripped all 
formatting by using Notepad. Is there a URL there somewhere by any 
chance? Those can get displayed in blue (but also underlined) if you 
have URL recognition enabled.


- Robert


On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Patricia Hickin wrote:


Thanks, Alexandro, I think I'm dense -- I look at each of the urls but I
don't see how any of them applies to my problem.

Pat


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:


Please learn to use the stylist, we have the document on our wiki and
download on ODT and PDF here:

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Introduction_to_Styles
Specifically creating styles

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Creating_paragraph_styles

Specifically your documents should be style based, if your stiles are
correct you could also clone, and inherit styles. Styles help you to
mark the headers and index so you can add structure.

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Defining_hierarchy


On 6/20/13, Patricia Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there any way to reveal codes in OO (the way you can in WordPerfect)?

I am having a problem with the following:

I am preparing a list of books as follows:

In a table of two columns, I insert an image of the book cover in the

first

(a narrow) column.  In the 2nd column I put info about the book: title,
author, publisher  date.

I have obtained the info from www.worldcat.org, compiled a list of the
books, copied the list into Notepad to strip it of formatting.  Next I
copied the list into an OO text document and formatted it as follows:

font Calibri  color black
title: 18 point bold italic
author  publishing info (two separate lines):  15 point regular.

For some reason, OO is changing the color of the publishing info to blue.
 I change it to black. but when I save it the color switches to blue!!

It is driving me crazy!!!

Any ideas??  Thanks!!

Pat




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Re: Reveal codes?

2013-01-20 Thread Robert Funnell
At https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3395 you can see some 
of the history of this request. I would love to see it but I don't 
know if it will ever happen.


On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Eric Fenster wrote:


What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word Perfect?

This is the reason I keep my old Word Perfect program, as crash-prone as it is. 
The feature really helps control formatting.

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