Re: Activation codes

2014-11-23 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:13:15 +0100
Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 On 16/11/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
  The current OpenOffice 4.1.1 will probably be the last version where the
  Windows version is not signed.
 
 An update and a clarification: we expect to deliver signed binaries by 
 the end of 2014 (see dev list) and when I speak about signed binaries, 
 I mean signed binaries that Windows recognizes as such: all past 
 versions of Apache OpenOffice are signed, but not in a way that Windows 
 will recognize out of the box. See 
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
 
 Regards,
Andrea.

If I may make one comment (as a native English speaker): Activation codes is 
perhaps an unhappy choice of words. Activation codes normally indicates to a 
user that this is a code to unlock a trial version of a program, which we know 
is not the case with OpenOffice. The same term is often used by unofficial 
sites offering a tainted download of OpenOffice, in their attempt to get money 
from downloaders.

Perhaps Verification code or Security verification might be a better choice 
for the term. I'm sure there may even be better terms than those - I'm in haste 
as I have to leave for a meeting and am not devoting my full attention to the 
naming.

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Re: Activation codes

2014-11-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rory O'Farrell wrote:

If I may make one comment (as a native English speaker): Activation
codes is perhaps an unhappy choice of words.


That was simply the thread subject. What I am talking about here (i.e., 
packaging the installer in a way that is accepted by Windows and Mac OS 
X) is known as digital signatures (done with a digital certificate; we 
already sign our installers, but with other methods) and indeed it has 
nothing to do with activation codes, and we will never use the latter 
terminology,


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Activation codes

2014-11-23 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:48:55 +0100
Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Rory O'Farrell wrote:
  If I may make one comment (as a native English speaker): Activation
  codes is perhaps an unhappy choice of words.
 
 That was simply the thread subject. What I am talking about here (i.e., 
 packaging the installer in a way that is accepted by Windows and Mac OS 
 X) is known as digital signatures (done with a digital certificate; we 
 already sign our installers, but with other methods) and indeed it has 
 nothing to do with activation codes, and we will never use the latter 
 terminology,
 
 Regards,
Andrea.

OK, thanks. Digital signatures is a good term, with no ambiguity.


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Re: Activation codes

2014-11-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 16/11/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

The current OpenOffice 4.1.1 will probably be the last version where the
Windows version is not signed.


An update and a clarification: we expect to deliver signed binaries by 
the end of 2014 (see dev list) and when I speak about signed binaries, 
I mean signed binaries that Windows recognizes as such: all past 
versions of Apache OpenOffice are signed, but not in a way that Windows 
will recognize out of the box. See 
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html


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  Andrea.

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Re: Activation codes

2014-11-22 Thread Julian Thomas

 On Nov 22, 2014, at 09:13, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 
 An update and a clarification: we expect to deliver signed binaries by the 
 end of 2014 (see dev list) and when I speak about signed binaries, I mean 
 signed binaries that Windows recognizes as such: all past versions of 
 Apache OpenOffice are signed, but not in a way that Windows will recognize 
 out of the box.

Will the OS X versions get rid of the need for overriding the safety switch?

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Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something. -Thomas 
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RE: Activation codes

2014-11-22 Thread chuck ef
I think, if I understand what you are referring to, that is an OS X thing that 
you can't get around. I am on OS X too. It has nothing to do with Apache per 
se, if I understand you. Apple simply requires users who download things from 
non-approved sources to verify that they really want to do that. 

 Subject: Re: Activation codes
 From: j...@jt-mj.net
 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:27:25 -0500
 To: users@openoffice.apache.org
 
 
  On Nov 22, 2014, at 09:13, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
  
  An update and a clarification: we expect to deliver signed binaries by the 
  end of 2014 (see dev list) and when I speak about signed binaries, I mean 
  signed binaries that Windows recognizes as such: all past versions of 
  Apache OpenOffice are signed, but not in a way that Windows will recognize 
  out of the box.
 
 Will the OS X versions get rid of the need for overriding the safety switch?
 
  —
 jt - j...@jt-mj.net
 
 Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something. -Thomas 
 A. Edison (1847 - 1931)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Activation codes

2014-11-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Julian Thomas wrote:

Will the OS X versions get rid of the need for overriding the safety switch?


Short answer is yes, but please follow the dev list for details (there 
is an extra legal check needed before we can implement it on Mac).


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Activation codes

2014-11-16 Thread Rosemarie Brisciana
Hello, 

 

As a great user in France of all the Open Office products, I am experiencing 
problems with the update, and am currently using the 4.1.0 edition. Every time 
I click to open or create a document, I'm invited to update to 4.1.1.

 

When I try to do so and am connected to an official page, I'm invited to spend 
4.5 euros for a first activiation code, then another 4.5 euros for a second 
one.  The numbers to which I had to send a texto and the codes received were 1) 
83020 for code MQYQYJ and 2) 81221 for code MUARQJ. Both of these numbers also 
invited me to pay for a game (I did not). The telephone number provided for 
assistance on the first code is 0821610753 (France). The email provided for 
assistance with the second code was c...@smsinf.net.


 

If this is open source and free, why does the Open Office icon connect me to 
Source Forge which appears to be an official OPen Office page, requiring 
payment of a total of 9 euros ?

 

Is Apache aware of the problem? I should be automatically connected to an 
official page, not to Source Forge, unless it's also an official Apache site.

 

I will add that after all these manipulations - and COSTS-, I still am at the 
4.1.0 edition whereas I followed the procedure a third time and was told that 
the update had been downloaded successfully.

 

What is happening with Open Office and why did I have to spend money for 2 
useless activation codes ? 

 

Thanks for a quick answer. In addition, I'm willing to help improve Open Office 
products - but at no cost ! 

 

Rosemarie Brisciana

 

 


Re: Activation codes

2014-11-16 Thread akkurtb
Never will openoffice ask you a fee. Immediately, uninstall the software, 
browse to http://openoffice.org and download the real package.
BA




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 Original message 
From: Rosemarie Brisciana rosemarie.constan...@wanadoo.fr 
Date: 16/11/2014  11:59  (GMT+02:00) 
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: Activation codes 

Hello, 

 

As a great user in France of all the Open Office products, I am experiencing 
problems with the update, and am currently using the 4.1.0 edition. Every time 
I click to open or create a document, I'm invited to update to 4.1.1.

 

When I try to do so and am connected to an official page, I'm invited to spend 
4.5 euros for a first activiation code, then another 4.5 euros for a second 
one.  The numbers to which I had to send a texto and the codes received were 1) 
83020 for code MQYQYJ and 2) 81221 for code MUARQJ. Both of these numbers also 
invited me to pay for a game (I did not). The telephone number provided for 
assistance on the first code is 0821610753 (France). The email provided for 
assistance with the second code was c...@smsinf.net.


 

If this is open source and free, why does the Open Office icon connect me to 
Source Forge which appears to be an official OPen Office page, requiring 
payment of a total of 9 euros ?

 

Is Apache aware of the problem? I should be automatically connected to an 
official page, not to Source Forge, unless it's also an official Apache site.

 

I will add that after all these manipulations - and COSTS-, I still am at the 
4.1.0 edition whereas I followed the procedure a third time and was told that 
the update had been downloaded successfully.

 

What is happening with Open Office and why did I have to spend money for 2 
useless activation codes ? 

 

Thanks for a quick answer. In addition, I'm willing to help improve Open Office 
products - but at no cost ! 

 

Rosemarie Brisciana

 

 


Re: Activation codes

2014-11-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:59:32 +0100 (CET)
Rosemarie Brisciana rosemarie.constan...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

 Hello, 
 
  
 
 As a great user in France of all the Open Office products, I am experiencing 
 problems with the update, and am currently using the 4.1.0 edition. Every 
 time I click to open or create a document, I'm invited to update to 4.1.1.
 
  
 
 When I try to do so and am connected to an official page, I'm invited to 
 spend 4.5 euros for a first activiation code, then another 4.5 euros for a 
 second one.  The numbers to which I had to send a texto and the codes 
 received were 1) 83020 for code MQYQYJ and 2) 81221 for code MUARQJ. Both of 
 these numbers also invited me to pay for a game (I did not). The telephone 
 number provided for assistance on the first code is 0821610753 (France). 
 The email provided for assistance with the second code was c...@smsinf.net.
 
 
  
 
 If this is open source and free, why does the Open Office icon connect me to 
 Source Forge which appears to be an official OPen Office page, requiring 
 payment of a total of 9 euros ?
 
  
 
 Is Apache aware of the problem? I should be automatically connected to an 
 official page, not to Source Forge, unless it's also an official Apache site.
 
  
 
 I will add that after all these manipulations - and COSTS-, I still am at the 
 4.1.0 edition whereas I followed the procedure a third time and was told 
 that the update had been downloaded successfully.
 
  
 
 What is happening with Open Office and why did I have to spend money for 2 
 useless activation codes ? 
 
  
 
 Thanks for a quick answer. In addition, I'm willing to help improve Open 
 Office products - but at no cost ! 
 
  
 
 Rosemarie Brisciana
 
  
 
  

If you download through
www.openoffice/org/download
You will be automatically redirected to SourceForge servers, on whose 
world-wide network of servers the OpenOffice files are stored. Your download 
should then start automaticaly in five seconds, without need to click on any 
other links. 

A genuine OpenOffice does not - repeat, NOT! - ask for any payment or require 
any activation code.  If this is happening, your computer's integrity has been 
compromised, perhaps by an earlier download from an unofficial source or by 
some form of Trojan or browser hijacker. 

If you are unable to obtain an uncontaminated version of OpenOffice from the 
above source, please run an indepth antivirus and malware check. For Malware 
detection, MalwareBytes is well regarded (Google for it).  Then come back to 
this list with details of your operating system (windows, Mac ... etc) and the 
language version you require and we'll give you a direct download link.


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Re: Activation codes

2014-11-16 Thread James Knott
On 11/16/2014 04:59 AM, Rosemarie Brisciana wrote:
 When I try to do so and am connected to an official page, I'm invited to 
 spend 4.5 euros for a first activiation code,

You have downloaded it from somewhere other than www.openoffice.org. 
There are sites that charge for something that's free.  Some of them
also add malware.  Always download from www.openoffice.org.

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Re: Activation codes

2014-11-16 Thread Urmas

Rosemarie Brisciana:

I'm invited to spend 4.5 euros for a first activiation code, then another 
4.5 euros for a second one.


All that could have been avoided if OpenOffice signed its binaries. But they 
are too cheap to do that simple step.




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Re: Activation codes

2014-11-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Urmas wrote:

All that could have been avoided if OpenOffice signed its binaries. But
they are too cheap to do that simple step.


We simply take it very seriously. You can find updates from October at
https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/code_signing_service_now_available 
and you can expect concrete news after next week's ApacheCon.


The current OpenOffice 4.1.1 will probably be the last version where the 
Windows version is not signed.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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