Re: Next st.. (another unsubscribe problem)

2014-01-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:29:11 -0700 John Hart wrote:

There's something strange about this email, it doesn't have the
unsubscribe message


I suspect this happens when the mailing list management software gets
confused by the message format (e.g., it converts from some obscurely
formatted HTML to plain text, but then it doesn't append the footer
correctly). But this is just a theory, I haven't verified it.


I have seen it suggested that some of the 'irregular' OpenOffice
download sites automatically log the downloaders to the User list to
'honour' their assertion of 'support' and justify the fee they charge
for the download.
I don't know if this is so, and cannot remember where I saw the
suggestion (possibly on an Apache ML?)


The theory (but we have no evidence) was:
- user usern...@gmail.com gives his e-mail address to an unofficial 
download site; say this is example.com
- the site creates a user123...@example.com e-mail address and 
subscribes it to the list (sending a subscription request, then approving)
- the site turns the user123...@example.com address into an alias for 
usern...@gmail.com ; so usern...@gmail.com is subscribed to the list 
through this alias.


Honestly, I don't believe this happens. If it did, we wouldn't be able 
to manually unsubscribe users when they complain (we would see the 
alias but not the real address); and we would see a lot of users 
subscribing from a strange domain (and we have no reports about that).


Of course, if we had any evidence of the former mechanism to be 
exploited, we would promptly take action. But so far this seems to be 
only a theory: it is simpler to assume that people subscribe by mistake; 
we can look into making the welcome messages simpler and clearer, so 
that nobody can misunderstand what he is doing when he confirms 
subscription to this list.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Next st.. (another unsubscribe problem)

2014-01-10 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:29:11 -0700
John Hart jh...@testra.com wrote:

 On 1/10/2014 8:07 AM, Andrew Kinsella wrote:
  Hagar-- how can I unsubscibe from this fucking list?
  3 attempts so far--- all wasted.
  Every single damn message that I get from your list is marked as spam-- but
  I am suffering spam button finger fatigue syndrome.
  Go figure.
 
  Dr Andrew Kinsella
  General Practitioner
  *Victorian Counselling  Psychological Services*
  62 Wellington Pde, East Melbourne 3002
  Phone: 03 9419 7172  Fax: 03 8678 3880
  Mobile: 0414954103
  www.vcps.com.au
 
 
 There's something strange about this email, it doesn't have the 
 unsubscribe message and
 it's the first post by the sender and every time I've checked out a How 
 do I get off this *** list
 request, it's been the same. How can an email be distributed to the list 
 without an unsubscribe?
 And how do those people get on the list without answering a request to 
 be on it?
 
 sent to users@openoffice.apache.org
 
I have seen it suggested that some of the 'irregular' OpenOffice download sites 
automatically log the downloaders to the User list to 'honour' their assertion 
of 'support' and justify the fee they charge for the download. 

I don't know if this is so, and cannot remember where I saw the suggestion 
(possibly on an Apache ML?)

-- 
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

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RE: Next st.. (another unsubscribe problem)

2014-01-10 Thread Maurice Howe
I took it upon myself (ahem...) to pound on this potty-mouth twit by
reporting him to his org, since he supplied the link and isn't too well
suited to his profession.  Haven't heard back -- Gee, wonder why?

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: John Hart [mailto:jh...@testra.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:29 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Next st.. (another unsubscribe problem)

On 1/10/2014 8:07 AM, Andrew Kinsella wrote:
 Hagar-- how can I unsubscibe from this fucking list?
 3 attempts so far--- all wasted.
 Every single damn message that I get from your list is marked as 
 spam-- but I am suffering spam button finger fatigue syndrome.
 Go figure.

 Dr Andrew Kinsella
 General Practitioner
 *Victorian Counselling  Psychological Services*
 62 Wellington Pde, East Melbourne 3002
 Phone: 03 9419 7172  Fax: 03 8678 3880
 Mobile: 0414954103
 www.vcps.com.au


There's something strange about this email, it doesn't have the unsubscribe
message and it's the first post by the sender and every time I've checked
out a How do I get off this *** list
request, it's been the same. How can an email be distributed to the list
without an unsubscribe?
And how do those people get on the list without answering a request to be on
it?

sent to users@openoffice.apache.org

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