[users] Re: Libreofice better than OpenOffice

2011-09-06 Thread Klaus Muth
Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011 02:44 schrieb Doug:
 On 09/05/2011 06:14 PM, upscope wrote:
  On Monday, September 05, 2011 10:16:04 AM Debdipta Ghosh wrote:

 /snip/

  It remains to be seen wher Apache goes with OpenOffice. Either are
  better in my mind since they are free and are not made by MS.

 Free is nice, but I would cheerfully pay for WordPerfect if they still
 made a Linux version! (The old version I have won't run under the modern
 Linux. The disk is copyright 2004.)
You could set up an debian brontosaur from the debian archives in a virtual 
machine and install your old WP there. Then use it on the virtual console 
or over a X11 remote session. This is one of the benefits of open OS. Try 
to get a Windows 3.11 to run some piece of stoneage software.

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[users] Re: Libreofice better than OpenOffice

2011-09-05 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2011/9/5 Debdipta Ghosh debdipta1...@gmail.com:
 Hi,
 I am a Linux user and a great believer of open source software and its
 development. I have been using Openoffice  since 2006.
 But currently I found a new OSS LibreOffice which is much more better than
 open office.
 Such as

 Open office takes more time to open than Libreoffice
When I first tried LibreOffice I timed that, and on my computer
OpenOffice.org was quicker. I haven't done that recently though, so
maybe things changed since.

 OpenOffice hangs more than Libreoffice
Neither of them hang on my system, but LibreOffice crash sometimes.

 Fronts are better in LibreOffice
Both use the system fonts on my machine.

 LibreOffice is more user friendly.
None of them are user friendly if you ask me. But none of them are
terrible either.


 Thanking you,
 Debdipta

Shouldn't this have been posted to the LibreOffice user's list, rather
than here?


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
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[users] Re: Libreofice better than OpenOffice

2011-09-05 Thread David B Teague sr

On 9/5/2011 4:00 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

None of them are user friendly if you ask me. But none of them are
terrible either.

User Interface (UI) rules:

No UI Is obvious or easy to a new user.
Software should be such that one can to learn it without too much pain.
Once learned, it should be hard to forget how to use it.
An experienced user of similar software should not need a manual to do 
usual and common tasks.
New versions should NOT have gratuitous or unnecessary changes from 
earlier versions.


I would call any program whose UI satisfies these as user friendly. And 
I think OO.o and LO both satisfy these fairly well.


I used MS Office on Windows 3.1 because my publisher paid me to do so. I 
had later version of MSO because I could get them free through the 
University where I taught.   I used, and preferred StarOffice on Linux 
before Sun bought it, I used OO.o from the earliest days, and switched 
to LO when the Oracle bought Sun and screwed things up. I can't really 
say OO.o is better or worse than LO, but I don't use OO.o because Oracle 
has made it difficult for everyone. I believe LO has some features that 
OO.o doesn't. I have not had LO crash or freeze.


David
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[users] Re: Libreofice better than OpenOffice

2011-09-05 Thread Brewster Gillett
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 16:18 -0400, David B Teague sr wrote:
 I used OO.o from the earliest days, and switched 
 to LO when the Oracle bought Sun and screwed things up. I can't really 
 say OO.o is better or worse than LO, but I don't use OO.o because Oracle 
 has made it difficult for everyone. I believe LO has some features that 
 OO.o doesn't. I have not had LO crash or freeze.
 
 David
 -- nil significat nisi oscillat
 do wop, do wop, do wop.

bg:

Can you readily sum up the necessary steps for migrating from Open
Office to LibreOffice? Principally the gotchas? But also the means
of preserving the docs - I assume the file formats are identical
or practically so...?

Thanks,

Brewster 

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[users] Re: Libreofice better than OpenOffice

2011-09-05 Thread upscope
On Monday, September 05, 2011 10:16:04 AM Debdipta Ghosh wrote:
 Hi,
 I am a Linux user and a great believer of open source software and its
 development. I have been using Openoffice  since 2006.
 But currently I found a new OSS LibreOffice which is much more better than
 open office.
 Such as
 
- Open office takes more time to open than Libreoffice
- OpenOffice hangs more than Libreoffice
- Fronts are better in LibreOffice
- LibreOffice is more user friendly.
 
 
 Thanking you,
 Debdipta
Actually there should not be much difference between the two as LibreOffice is 
a branch of openOffice that occured about the time Oracle took over 
OpenOffice. I have used LibreOffice since it came out and OpenOffices future 
was not yet determined.  

I have not had any trouble opening anything created in OpenOffice on 
LibreOffice. 

It remains to be seen wher Apache goes with OpenOffice. Either are better in 
my mind since they are free and are not made by MS. 
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[users] Re: Libreofice better than OpenOffice

2011-09-05 Thread David B Teague sr

On 9/5/2011 4:28 PM, Brewster Gillett wrote:

On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 16:18 -0400, David B Teague sr wrote:

I used OO.o from the earliest days, and switched
to LO when the Oracle bought Sun and screwed things up. I can't really
say OO.o is better or worse than LO, but I don't use OO.o because Oracle
has made it difficult for everyone. I believe LO has some features that
OO.o doesn't. I have not had LO crash or freeze.

David
-- nil significat nisi oscillat
 do wop, do wop, do wop.

bg:

Can you readily sum up the necessary steps for migrating from Open
Office to LibreOffice? Principally the gotchas? But also the means
of preserving the docs - I assume the file formats are identical
or practically so...?

Thanks,

Brewster


Brewster,

The native file formats for LO and OO.o are identical: ODT, etc.  I did 
not perceive much difference between the user interfaces except that 
there were a few more things I could do with LO. If you need to know the 
differences, I believe there are web sites that compare LO and OO.o. 
Google search is your friend there.


Installation: I suggest you read the installation instructions on the LO 
site, and read the release notes. I deleted OO.o using the W7 control 
panel applet. This won't do anything to existing files generated by 
OO.o. I understand this leaves the personal profile from OO.o that will 
be used by LO. I then fetched LO from their web site. Be careful to get 
the one without Java. My experience has been that the version of Java in 
the installers for LO and OO.o is been out of date, so I think it is 
better have your own version. Then I installed LO. You will have to 
decide during installation what file formats will be opened by LO.  Make 
sure the new installation knows about the Java installed on your system.


If you have extensions on OO.o look on the LO site for the corresponding 
extensions and install them. I recall that the import PDF extension is 
necessary for OO.o to export PDF files and to generate hybrid pdf/odt 
files readable by pdf readers and able to be edited by OO.o. I note that 
it is installed on my LO, but I don't recall having installed it. So if 
this function is important to you, be sure you have that extension 
installed for LO.


I had no problems and no glitches but your mileage may vary.

I believe what I say here is accurate, but if anyone spots an error in 
what I said here, please post a correction.


Warmest Regards
--David Teague
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[users] Re: Libreofice better than OpenOffice

2011-09-05 Thread Doug

On 09/05/2011 06:14 PM, upscope wrote:

On Monday, September 05, 2011 10:16:04 AM Debdipta Ghosh wrote:


/snip/

It remains to be seen wher Apache goes with OpenOffice. Either are better in
my mind since they are free and are not made by MS.

Free is nice, but I would cheerfully pay for WordPerfect if they still made
a Linux version! (The old version I have won't run under the modern Linux.
The disk is copyright 2004.)

--doug

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