Re: [SOGo] Search entire mailstore from the GUI?

2014-03-13 Thread Ron Scott-Adams
Why not configure your MTA to blind-copy to a central mailbox and search from 
there?

If the desire is to access existing mail, why not access all of the boxes via 
IMAP and copy messages to a central mailbox?

On Mar 12, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote:

 On 3/12/2014 11:23 AM, Christian Mack christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de wrote:
 Am 2014-03-12 12:37, schrieb Charles Marcus:
 On 3/11/2014 9:29 PM, Nigel Pegramndpeg...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Is the web GUI a must? Thunderbird has this capability.
 
 You misunderstand.
 
 I'm talking about an Administrative function.
 
 Something that can search all mailboxes for all user accounts across an
 entire domain (or even multiple domains, if SOGo is set up for it).
 
 No, this feature is not available in SOGo.
 It has nothing to do with a mail client, so SOGo is not the way to go.
 And to use such a feature would be highly illegal at least in Europe
 
 In the US, employees of companies have no expectation of privacy regarding 
 email, under the following conditions:
 
 1. The employee is using a company email address and system owned and 
 operated by the company, and
 
 2. The Company has a formal policy that the employee is made fully aware of 
 the fact that their employer may monitor their email usage at any time.
 
 Alas, I've been tasked with finding some kind of system that will allow the 
 boss, and potentially one or two other people the ability to do this when 
 necessary.
 
 Thanks anyway,
 
 -- 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Charles
 
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Re: [SOGo] Search entire mailstore from the GUI?

2014-03-13 Thread Márcio Merlone

Em 13-03-2014 01:08, Ron Scott-Adams escreveu:

Why not configure your MTA to blind-copy to a central mailbox and search from 
there?

That would double storage requirements.

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Re: [SOGo] Search entire mailstore from the GUI?

2014-03-13 Thread Helge Hess
On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote:
 In the US, employees of companies have no expectation of privacy regarding 
 email, under the following conditions:
 
 1. The employee is using a company email address and system owned and 
 operated by the company, and
 
 2. The Company has a formal policy that the employee is made fully aware of 
 the fact that their employer may monitor their email usage at any time.

FWIW It's similar in Germany (and presumably most other European countries). 
Except maybe that employees naively have the expectation of privacy while US 
people are just used to this ;-)

It definitely isn't highly illegal in Europe - *unless* the company 
explicitly allowed personal usage of their systems. Some do, most don't.

hh

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Re: [SOGo] Search entire mailstore from the GUI?

2014-03-12 Thread Christian Mack
Am 2014-03-12 12:37, schrieb Charles Marcus:
 On 3/11/2014 9:29 PM, Nigel Pegram ndpeg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is the web GUI a must? Thunderbird has this capability.
 
 You misunderstand.
 
 I'm talking about an Administrative function.
 
 Something that can search all mailboxes for all user accounts across an
 entire domain (or even multiple domains, if SOGo is set up for it).
 

No, this feature is not available in SOGo.
It has nothing to do with a mail client, so SOGo is not the way to go.
And to use such a feature would be highly illegal at least in Europe :-)


Kind regards,
Christian Mack

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RE: [SOGo] Search entire mailstore from the GUI?

2014-03-12 Thread Libor Neužil
Technically, if you dont encrypt mail files, when you run script on filesystem 
or database (depends on where you store user mails in mail daemon) you can 
search for text in these using perl or python.

But I agree this is an incerception into users privacy and should be consulted 
with your legal counsel.

Cheers,
Libor

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Subject: Re: [SOGo] Search entire mailstore from the GUI?

Am 2014-03-12 12:37, schrieb Charles Marcus:
 On 3/11/2014 9:29 PM, Nigel Pegram ndpeg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is the web GUI a must? Thunderbird has this capability.
 
 You misunderstand.
 
 I'm talking about an Administrative function.
 
 Something that can search all mailboxes for all user accounts across an
 entire domain (or even multiple domains, if SOGo is set up for it).
 

No, this feature is not available in SOGo.
It has nothing to do with a mail client, so SOGo is not the way to go.
And to use such a feature would be highly illegal at least in Europe :-)


Kind regards,
Christian Mack

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Re: [SOGo] Search entire mailstore from the GUI?

2014-03-12 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/12/2014 11:23 AM, Christian Mack christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de 
wrote:

Am 2014-03-12 12:37, schrieb Charles Marcus:

On 3/11/2014 9:29 PM, Nigel Pegramndpeg...@gmail.com  wrote:

Is the web GUI a must? Thunderbird has this capability.


You misunderstand.

I'm talking about an Administrative function.

Something that can search all mailboxes for all user accounts across an
entire domain (or even multiple domains, if SOGo is set up for it).


No, this feature is not available in SOGo.
It has nothing to do with a mail client, so SOGo is not the way to go.
And to use such a feature would be highly illegal at least in Europe


In the US, employees of companies have no expectation of privacy 
regarding email, under the following conditions:


1. The employee is using a company email address and system owned and 
operated by the company, and


2. The Company has a formal policy that the employee is made fully aware 
of the fact that their employer may monitor their email usage at any time.


Alas, I've been tasked with finding some kind of system that will allow 
the boss, and potentially one or two other people the ability to do this 
when necessary.


Thanks anyway,

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Best regards,

Charles

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Re: [SOGo] Search entire mailstore from the GUI?

2014-03-12 Thread Donny Brooks



On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 03:30 PM CDT, Charles Marcus 
cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote:
 On 3/12/2014 11:23 AM, Christian Mack
wrote:
 Am 2014-03-12 12:37, schrieb Charles Marcus:
 On 3/11/2014 9:29 PM, Nigel Pegram wrote:
 Is the web GUI a must? Thunderbird has this capability.
 
 You misunderstand.
 
 I'm talking about an Administrative function.
 
 Something that can search all mailboxes for all user accounts across an
 entire domain (or even multiple domains, if SOGo is set up for it).
 
 No, this feature is not available in SOGo.
 It has nothing to do with a mail client, so SOGo is not the way to go.
 And to use such a feature would be highly illegal at least in Europe

In the US, employees of companies have no expectation of privacy
regarding email, under the following conditions:

1. The employee is using a company email address and system owned and
operated by the company, and

2. The Company has a formal policy that the employee is made fully aware
of the fact that their employer may monitor their email usage at any time.

Alas, I've been tasked with finding some kind of system that will allow
the boss, and potentially one or two other people the ability to do this
when necessary.

Thanks anyway,

--

Best regards,

Charles

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https://inverse.ca/sogo/li...@gmail.com@uni-konstanz.deenkive.org is what we 
are looking at using. Would provide you exactly what you are wanting.
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[SOGo] Search entire mailstore from the GUI?

2014-03-11 Thread Charles Marcus

Hi all,

I don't think SOGo has this capability, but hopefully I'm wrong.

Is there a way to search, or even browse, the entire mailstore backend 
using the SOGo web GUI?


My boss has asked me to look into a way for him, or someone he 
designates, to be able to search for keywords across the entire 
mailstore. I've explained about archiving tools, but he would prefer 
something that I can install myself and doesn't cost an arm and a leg...


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Re: [SOGo] Search entire mailstore from the GUI?

2014-03-11 Thread Nigel Pegram
Is the web GUI a must? Thunderbird has this capability.

Nigel

On 11/03/14 22:33, Charles Marcus wrote:
 Hi all,

 I don't think SOGo has this capability, but hopefully I'm wrong.

 Is there a way to search, or even browse, the entire mailstore backend
 using the SOGo web GUI?

 My boss has asked me to look into a way for him, or someone he
 designates, to be able to search for keywords across the entire
 mailstore. I've explained about archiving tools, but he would prefer
 something that I can install myself and doesn't cost an arm and a leg...


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