Re: JVM per Context

2008-09-11 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Chuck,

Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 From: Martin Gainty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: JVM per Context

 If your goal is to run TC with different JVMs have you looked
 at using each JBM to run embedded TomcatBR
 
 This has nothing to do with running an embedded Tomcat. Please don't
 add confusion to this issue.

The use of a 6-year old article was a nice touch, though. Definitely
expanding his repertoire. Keep up the good work, Martin!

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RE: JVM per Context

2008-09-10 Thread Peter Crowther
 From: Michael Dehmlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have multiple contexts that are defined for a given host in
 my server.xml
 each context I would like to start up in its own jvm, for dll and
 enviornment variable reasons.

As a solution sketch (I've never done it), you'll need to deploy eclipsev1 and 
eclipsev2 in two different Tomcat instances.  See the file RUNNING.txt that 
comes with your version of Tomcat (which you didn't tell us!) for details on 
setting up multiple instances.  You'll then need something that talks AJP or 
can reverse proxy to sit at the front of the two Tomcats and divide incoming 
requests to the multiple Tomcats.  Apache httpd (what most people call 
Apache) can do this.  Again, check the docs at http://tomcat.apache.org for 
integration of httpd as a front-end, Tomcat as a back-end.

I suspect you'll get more detailed responses; this is rapid rather than 
complete!

- Peter

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RE: JVM per Context

2008-09-10 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Michael Dehmlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: JVM per Context

 I have multiple contexts that are defined for a given host in
 my server.xml

Placing Context elements in server.xml is strongly discouraged for any 
current version of Tomcat; however, you didn't bother to tell us what version 
of Tomcat you're using, so that may or may not be applicable.

 each context I would like to start up in its own jvm, for dll and
 enviornment variable reasons.

Each Tomcat runs in its own JVM, so you'll need separate installations for each 
webapp.  Look in the RUNNING.txt file for instructions.

 I've read documentation for tomcat 3.4 that details the use of ajp for
 communication to achieve this but can't find anything about jvms docs.

Since there never has been nor ever will be a Tomcat 3.4, what you were looking 
at is rather suspect.

You will need some sort of front end to route the requests to the different 
Tomcat instances, which could be httpd or some other forwarding mechanism.  
Consult the Tomcat connector documentation for whatever level you're using to 
figure out how to use mod_jk or mod_proxy.

 - Chuck


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RE: JVM per Context

2008-09-10 Thread Michael Dehmlow

Thanks, my version of tomcat 5.5.26. My mistake I was looking at tomcat 3.3
documentation:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-3.3-doc/tomcat-apache-howto.html
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-3.3-doc/tomcat-apache-howto.html .

Yes defining contexts in the Server.xml is discouraged but I'm doing it
anyway. ;)

For those in a similar situation I'm going down the path of defining an
engine per context:

Engine name=engA defaultHost=localhost jvmRoute=jvmA
  Host name=localhost appBase=webapps
   unpackWARs=true
   xmlValidation=false xmlNamespaceAware=false
Context path=/eclipse/A docBase=/slot_A 
cookies='false'
Parameter name=com.dev.myParm value=/eclipse/A 
override=true/
/Context
  /Host
/Engine

Using jvmRoute the idea is to use the clustering mechanism of tomcat to give
me multiple jvms

This being only my theory I can only hope someone can either call me an
idiot or give me a few pointers in short order.

I will post my findings as I find them.
Thanks, 
Mike
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Re: JVM per Context

2008-09-10 Thread Pid
Michael Dehmlow wrote:
 Thanks, my version of tomcat 5.5.26. My mistake I was looking at tomcat 3.3
 documentation:
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-3.3-doc/tomcat-apache-howto.html
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-3.3-doc/tomcat-apache-howto.html .
 
 Yes defining contexts in the Server.xml is discouraged but I'm doing it
 anyway. ;)

Strongly suggested.

 For those in a similar situation I'm going down the path of defining an
 engine per context:

Still won't give you separate JVMs.

As Peter and Chuck indicated, you'll need to create separate Tomcat
instances if you want to have separate JVMs.  When you start Tomcat you
are calling Java's JVM first, then Tomcat runs inside of it.

If you want another JVM instance you have to start another completely
external process.  The JVMs don't run inside Tomcat, it's the other way
round.


 Engine name=engA defaultHost=localhost jvmRoute=jvmA
   Host name=localhost appBase=webapps
unpackWARs=true
xmlValidation=false xmlNamespaceAware=false
   Context path=/eclipse/A docBase=/slot_A 
 cookies='false'
   Parameter name=com.dev.myParm value=/eclipse/A 
 override=true/
   /Context
   /Host
 /Engine
 
 Using jvmRoute the idea is to use the clustering mechanism of tomcat to give
 me multiple jvms

I think you're mistaking jvmRoute for something it isn't.

This attribute is used to add a marker to the jsessionid so that routing
 devices in front of a cluster of Tomcat servers can determine which
server to send a sticky session to.

 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/engine.html


 This being only my theory I can only hope someone can either call me an
 idiot or give me a few pointers in short order.

 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/


p



 I will post my findings as I find them.
 Thanks, 
 Mike


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RE: JVM per Context

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Gainty

MikeBR

If your goal is to run TC with different JVMs have you looked at using each JBM 
to run embedded TomcatBR
http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/04/03/tomcat.html?page=1BR

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 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:56:42 +0100
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 Subject: Re: JVM per Context
 
 Michael Dehmlow wrote:
  Thanks, my version of tomcat 5.5.26. My mistake I was looking at tomcat 3.3
  documentation:
  http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-3.3-doc/tomcat-apache-howto.html
  http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-3.3-doc/tomcat-apache-howto.html .
  
  Yes defining contexts in the Server.xml is discouraged but I'm doing it
  anyway. ;)
 
 Strongly suggested.
 
  For those in a similar situation I'm going down the path of defining an
  engine per context:
 
 Still won't give you separate JVMs.
 
 As Peter and Chuck indicated, you'll need to create separate Tomcat
 instances if you want to have separate JVMs.  When you start Tomcat you
 are calling Java's JVM first, then Tomcat runs inside of it.
 
 If you want another JVM instance you have to start another completely
 external process.  The JVMs don't run inside Tomcat, it's the other way
 round.
 
 
  Engine name=engA defaultHost=localhost jvmRoute=jvmA
Host name=localhost appBase=webapps
 unpackWARs=true
 xmlValidation=false xmlNamespaceAware=false
  Context path=/eclipse/A docBase=/slot_A 
  cookies='false'
  Parameter name=com.dev.myParm value=/eclipse/A 
  override=true/
  /Context
/Host
  /Engine
  
  Using jvmRoute the idea is to use the clustering mechanism of tomcat to give
  me multiple jvms
 
 I think you're mistaking jvmRoute for something it isn't.
 
 This attribute is used to add a marker to the jsessionid so that routing
  devices in front of a cluster of Tomcat servers can determine which
 server to send a sticky session to.
 
  http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/engine.html
 
 
  This being only my theory I can only hope someone can either call me an
  idiot or give me a few pointers in short order.
 
  http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/
 
 
 p
 
 
 
  I will post my findings as I find them.
  Thanks, 
  Mike
 
 
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RE: JVM per Context

2008-09-10 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Martin Gainty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: JVM per Context

 If your goal is to run TC with different JVMs have you looked
 at using each JBM to run embedded TomcatBR

This has nothing to do with running an embedded Tomcat.  Please don't add 
confusion to this issue.

 - Chuck


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