Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
I believe that this only a problem of documentation. If you followed the on-line instructions (tomcat.apache.org, 6.0, documentation, download etc..), you probably downloaded and installed the Windows Service version. That version works a bit differently from the usual version under Unix/Linux. You set the JVM parameters for startup with the tomcat6w.exe program, and run the Tomcat Service using the tomcat6.exe program. That version of Tomcat does not have the correct setup or files to run it from the .bat files. If you want to run it from the .bat files, then download the zip version and install it. Unfortunately, all this is not very clear at first from the on-line download page nor the documentation pages. It takes a while for the non-initiated to get a clear idea of what is going on there. Stefan Sigfried wrote: I get this error when trying to start Tomcat using catalina.bat. Using JRE_HOME:C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_07 Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/catalina/s tartup/Bootstrap Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr ap at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:276) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:319) C:\downloads\apache\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\bin It looks as some .jar file is wrong or missing. Why is the main class missing? The actual call made by catalina.bat looks like this (adding a line to do echo in the catalina.bat file). C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_07\bin\java -Djava.util.logging.manager=org.ap ache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager -Djava.util.logging.config.file=C:\downloads\ap ache\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\conf\logging.properties -Djava.endorsed.dirs=C:\downloads\apache\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\apache-tomc at-6.0.18-src\endorsed -classpath C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_07\lib\tools. jar;C:\downloads\apache\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\bin\bo otstrap.jar -Dcatalina.base=C:\downloads\apache\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\apach e-tomcat-6.0.18-src -Dcatalina.home=C:\downloads\apache\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-s rc\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src -Djava.io.tmpdir=C:\downloads\apache\apache-tomcat -6.0.18-src\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\temp org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
From: André Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap I believe that this only a problem of documentation. Nope. If you followed the on-line instructions (tomcat.apache.org, 6.0, documentation, download etc..), you probably downloaded and installed the Windows Service version. Also nope. The OP downloaded and is trying to run the *source*: C:\downloads\apache\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\apache-tomcat-6.0.18-src\bin Works better if you try to run object code. I would recommend getting the .zip version rather than the .exe; as André points out, it's more flexible. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap I believe that this only a problem of documentation. Nope. I think maybe yep still. I believe it is really not clear what you get when on the download page, and the README does not help that much, unless you pretty much already know the difference between the zip version and the Service installer. As to the Documentation page (http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/index.html) 2. Setup it leads to a page where you find a) the installation as a Windows service and b) the installation as a Unix daemon but it is missing the in-between : that you can also run Tomcat under Windows from the .zip distribution (maybe as a service, maybe not, I'm still not quite clear myself on that one). And the Windows Service HowTo starts with the bold phrase *This section of the documentation applies to procrun 1.0, and is now obsolete.* So it's not particularly inviting or reassuring. Even that phrase also assumes that someone already knows what procrun is, in the first place. Understand, I'm not complaining, just explaining that someone without previous knowledge may have some doubts as to what to use. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
From: André Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap I think maybe yep still. I'm not saying the doc is perfect (far from it), but the OP downloaded the source, not the binary. I believe it is really not clear what you get when on the download page, Binary vs source isn't clear? - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap I think maybe yep still. I'm not saying the doc is perfect (far from it), but the OP downloaded the source, not the binary. I believe it is really not clear what you get when on the download page, Binary vs source isn't clear? Yes, Chuck, that part is clear. Maybe I'm just starting like someone else, answering questions that aren't asked (yet). ;-) What I meant was simply that, *had* the OP not downloaded a version already, but *had* he been wondering which version to download, and *had* he been considering the information in the on-line documentation wondering which version he *should* download, then it *would* not necessarily have been clear to him. Which is, maybe, why he downloaded the source version rather than either the zip or service version in the first place. So maybe we should ask to OP himself to indicate what was his ultimate aim in downloading a Tomcat for Windows : simply to run it as a service (in which case the service installer may be the better choice), or to run it also on the command-line, play around with the .bat settings etc.. By the way, as long as you're there and in a chatty mood, why are there two versions for Windows, and what would be the best usage of the one or the other version ? - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
From: André Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap why are there two versions for Windows, and what would be the best usage of the one or the other version ? Now that's a good question. Since I'm not privy to the designers' thought processes, I can only speculate that the .exe version is for novices who don't know how to actually use a computer. Although the .exe slightly simplifies the service installation, its failure to include the scripts makes it a non-starter for me; if I had a vote, I'd get rid of it. By the way, there aren't two versions for Windows, but three: the tarball works fine (just as the .zip does on Linux), as long as you have something on Windows with which to extract the files. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap why are there two versions for Windows, and what would be the best usage of the one or the other version ? Now that's a good question. Since I'm not privy to the designers' thought processes, I can only speculate that the .exe version is for novices who don't know how to actually use a computer. Not everyone who drives a car is, or wants to be, a mechanic. It only very seldom helps. Although the .exe slightly simplifies the service installation, its failure to include the scripts makes it a non-starter for me; if I had a vote, I'd get rid of it. By the way, there aren't two versions for Windows, but three: the tarball works fine (just as the .zip does on Linux), as long as you have something on Windows with which to extract the files. So one could then say that the zip and tarball versions are totally identical, just packed with a different utility ? An additional pointed question, about the .zip and tarball versions (assuming one can unpack it on the platform of choice) : There was a time when a pure java program did not work very well as a Windows Service. Such as, if started from a command window, it would be killed whenever the user who originally started it, logged out of his Windows session. It was my understanding that this was at least one reason why the Commons Daemon wrapper (procrun) was developed, to wrap the JVM in such a way that it did not do that. Now, is this still the case, and/or (mixture of questions here) : a) the zip/tarball version also include whatever is needed to wrap the JVM and Tomcat into the Windows Service wrapper ? b) the JVM nowadays handles this fine on its own, and does not need the wrapper anymore ? c) you really need the wrapped version if you want to run Tomcat as a service, and only the Service installer provides that wrapper ? - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
From: André Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap Not everyone who drives a car is, or wants to be, a mechanic. It only very seldom helps. True; but if you're at the point where you're installing Tomcat, I think some prerequisite knowledge is expected. It's not just cranking up Word to create the family newsletter. So one could then say that the zip and tarball versions are totally identical, just packed with a different utility ? As far as I can tell, yes. There was a time when a pure java program did not work very well as a Windows Service. Such as, if started from a command window, it would be killed whenever the user who originally started it, logged out of his Windows session. ??? If it's running from a command window, it's not a service. It was my understanding that this was at least one reason why the Commons Daemon wrapper (procrun) was developed, to wrap the JVM in such a way that it did not do that. Yes, procrun greatly simplifies turning the JVM into a service, but I doubt that it's the only way. a) the zip/tarball version also include whatever is needed to wrap the JVM and Tomcat into the Windows Service wrapper ? Yup, even the tarball includes the Windows scripts and .exe programs. Use the service.bat script to install or remove the service. b) the JVM nowadays handles this fine on its own, and does not need the wrapper anymore ? It's not a problem with the JVM, but with how Windows likes to kick off services. It might be possible to set up a Java-based service without procrun, but I haven't played with it, since procrun makes it so easy. c) you really need the wrapped version if you want to run Tomcat as a service, and only the Service installer provides that wrapper ? Yes to the first part (for practical purposes), no to the second. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: André Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap Not everyone who drives a car is, or wants to be, a mechanic. It only very seldom helps. True; but if you're at the point where you're installing Tomcat, I think some prerequisite knowledge is expected. It's not just cranking up Word to create the family newsletter. True too. But there are a lot of people who just want to do very smart things *under* Tomcat, without necessarily wanting to spend a lot of time dealing with installing it, or configuring its log files (could not stop myself adding that one). So one could then say that the zip and tarball versions are totally identical, just packed with a different utility ? As far as I can tell, yes. There was a time when a pure java program did not work very well as a Windows Service. Such as, if started from a command window, it would be killed whenever the user who originally started it, logged out of his Windows session. ??? If it's running from a command window, it's not a service. No, I really meant that even if you would start it *as a service* from a command window (like net start servicename), it would still kill that service when you logged off. Really. Do not ask me what the exact reason was, but it did that. It was my understanding that this was at least one reason why the Commons Daemon wrapper (procrun) was developed, to wrap the JVM in such a way that it did not do that. Yes, procrun greatly simplifies turning the JVM into a service, but I doubt that it's the only way. The basic reason is that Windows expects to be able to send messages to Windows services, such as please suspend, or stop now, and that these messages are supposed to be looked at by the program in question, and it is supposed to react to them and tell Windows ok, seen it, done that, within a given period of time. That's the kind of thing that procrun does (I think), and that maybe the JVM by itself doesn't. Or maybe now it does, I don't know, and that's why I asked. Maybe someone else can confirm/deny that ? a) the zip/tarball version also include whatever is needed to wrap the JVM and Tomcat into the Windows Service wrapper ? Yup, even the tarball includes the Windows scripts and .exe programs. Use the service.bat script to install or remove the service. b) the JVM nowadays handles this fine on its own, and does not need the wrapper anymore ? It's not a problem with the JVM, but with how Windows likes to kick off services. Well, that is one slightly biased point of view. Unix/Linux do things one way to run daemons, Windows does it another way and calls them services. If the JVM, which pretends to be multi-platform (including Windows) cannot handle that, then it loses an argument on being really multi-platform, doesn't it ? Not that I'm a fan of Windows myself, but fair is fair. Anyway, to wrap this up, how do we get the official Tomcat download and setup pages to say all this more clearly than they do at present ? Just for the sake of avoiding those recurring questions. Like : Tomcat is a Java application, so it is multi-platform by definition, and you can run the exact same version under Unix/Linux or Windows. The default (or main or official) version is the one you get in the zip or the tar.gz distribution, and they both contain the same files. Any one of them can be used to install and run Tomcat under Unix/Linux or under Windows. Only, the contained .bat scripts are the ones to use under Windows, and the .sh scripts are to be used under Unix/Linux. There is also a special Windows-only pre-packaged version, named Windows service installer, which contains slightly less files, but makes it easier for you if all you want is run Tomcat as a Windows service and be done with it. It has a GUI installer like Windows users are used to, and automatically installs Tomcat as a service for you, with all the required parameters already pre-defined so as to make it really easy. It also has a GUI program to change the service startup parameters should you need to. But if you want to run Tomcat also in a command window, or want to play around with the startup scripts etc.., then download and use the zip version instead. It will also allow you to run Tomcat as a Windows service, but the setup for that requires a little more work. P.S. We need a third OS contender one of these days, or it is going to get really boring. In Europe we know all about that, none of this R. vs D. -only kind of stuff. It's a lot more fun with some far-left, far-right, greens, liberals and nationalists to keep things interesting. Just imagine R/D hung 45/45, and Ms Hilton with 10 in the middle holding the balance.. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e
RE: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
From: André Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap Anyway, to wrap this up, how do we get the official Tomcat download and setup pages to say all this more clearly than they do at present ? Submit a bugzilla entry with the patch for the suggested text; the Tomcat doc is part of its source code. It's a lot more fun with some far-left, far-right, greens, liberals and nationalists to keep things interesting. In this state (Minnesota), we actually do have a semi-viable 3rd party; their US Senate candidate managed to garner about 15% of the vote last week. Unfortunately, they run few candidates in the state elections, so they usually don't have too much of an impact other than as spoilers. There are certainly some things to be said for a multi-party parliamentary system. Just imagine R/D hung 45/45, and Ms Hilton with 10 in the middle holding the balance.. Could be worse, could be Italian politics... (and yes, Caldarale is Italian; I'm in occasional contact with relatives there). - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap
i always thought garrison keiler should run for political office..at least to represent the norwegian bachelors Takk/ Martin __ Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relates to the official business of Sender. This transmission is of a confidential nature and Sender does not endorse distribution to any party other than intended recipient. Sender does not necessarily endorse content contained within this transmission. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: users@tomcat.apache.org Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:56:38 -0600 Subject: RE: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap From: André Warnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstr,ap Anyway, to wrap this up, how do we get the official Tomcat download and setup pages to say all this more clearly than they do at present ? Submit a bugzilla entry with the patch for the suggested text; the Tomcat doc is part of its source code. It's a lot more fun with some far-left, far-right, greens, liberals and nationalists to keep things interesting. In this state (Minnesota), we actually do have a semi-viable 3rd party; their US Senate candidate managed to garner about 15% of the vote last week. Unfortunately, they run few candidates in the state elections, so they usually don't have too much of an impact other than as spoilers. There are certainly some things to be said for a multi-party parliamentary system. Just imagine R/D hung 45/45, and Ms Hilton with 10 in the middle holding the balance.. Could be worse, could be Italian politics... (and yes, Caldarale is Italian; I'm in occasional contact with relatives there). - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ See how Windows® connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119463819/direct/01/
