Re: +clientserver on Mac OS X

2006-09-08 Thread Benjamin Esham

A.J.Mechelynck wrote:

Now, there does exist an X11 server for Mac Os X but I've heard  
some Mac users don't want to use it because (I've been told)  
applications running through the X server are not visible as  
distinct running Mac applications.


This is true.  It's possible to run X11 apps, such as the GIMP, Pan,  
GnuCash, and OpenOffice.org with Apple's X11 program, but these do  
not appear as distinct applications like everything else in OS X:  
they are merely windows in the X11 program.  This, combined with the  
different GUIs, makes those applications less-than-seamlessly  
integrated with the rest of the system.  OTOH, X11 is often the best  
or only way to use those applications.  It's possible to use gvim in  
X11, but even though the Carbon version has some holes in it, most  
people (AFAIK) prefer the latter.


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+clientserver on Mac OS X

2006-09-07 Thread Peter Hodge
Hello,

Is it possible to run the clientserver feature on Mac OS X?  I cannot see
anywhere in the help that directly states that clientserver only runs on
Windows or X11.

regards,
Peter

regards,
Peter



 
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Re: +clientserver on Mac OS X

2006-09-07 Thread Benji Fisher
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:57:41AM +1000, Peter Hodge wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is it possible to run the clientserver feature on Mac OS X?  I cannot see
 anywhere in the help that directly states that clientserver only runs on
 Windows or X11.

 I am pretty sure that this is not implemented for OS X.  I agree
that the docs are not clear on this point, but I think that if you
scroll down from

:help +feature-list

to

:help +clientserver

you will find Unix and Win32.  OK, so Unix includes Linux and maybe
FreeBSD but not OS X ... as I said, I agree that the docs are not clear.

--Benji Fisher


Re: +clientserver on Mac OS X

2006-09-07 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Benji Fisher wrote:

On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:57:41AM +1000, Peter Hodge wrote:

Hello,

Is it possible to run the clientserver feature on Mac OS X?  I cannot see
anywhere in the help that directly states that clientserver only runs on
Windows or X11.


 I am pretty sure that this is not implemented for OS X.  I agree
that the docs are not clear on this point, but I think that if you
scroll down from

:help +feature-list

to

:help +clientserver

you will find Unix and Win32.  OK, so Unix includes Linux and maybe
FreeBSD but not OS X ... as I said, I agree that the docs are not clear.

--Benji Fisher



I thought Unix _did_ include OS X; but maybe it should have said X11 
and W32 (can you use the -clientserver facility on a Unix without X11, 
such as a Linux running at runlevel 3 i.e. multiuser with network but 
without X11?)


BTW, remote.txt has three sections: Common functionality, X11 
specific items and MS-Windows specific items which make me suspect 
that there are exactly two flavours of Vim client-server subsystems, 
one for X11 and another one for MS-Windows.


Now, there does exist an X11 server for Mac Os X but I've heard some Mac 
users don't want to use it because (I've been told) applications running 
through the X server are not visible as distinct running Mac applications.



Best regards,
Tony.