VNC on MAC viewing a windows based device

2009-06-07 Thread Howard Schroeder
I have a situation where I need to be able to operate a windows based DVR
but I use a MAC laptop.  I understand that MAC do not support the Activex
control capability needed so I was hoping to be able to use VNC to remotely
operate the DVR and view the cameras via a remote session. Is this possible?

___
VNC-List mailing list
VNC-List@realvnc.com
To remove yourself from the list visit:
http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list


RE: VNC on MAC viewing a windows based device

2009-06-07 Thread Philip Herlihy
Not an expert in this forum, but I thought I'd venture an opinion:

Almost certainly not.  To use VNC you have to have a server process
running on the machine you want to control.  Servers are available for
Windows (the Personal Edition covers Vista) and the Mac (Enterprise version)
etc, but for a DVR?  Well, I guess it's possible that it's running some
Linux variant, but you're unlikely to find it easy to install anything else
on it (hats off if you manage it).  I guess this is one of those situations
where the Mac's ability to conceal complexity is balanced by a lack of
support by developers of niche software products.

I did follow up the thought that you can indeed get Internet Explorer for
the Mac, but although that (apparently) has the capability of running
ActiveX controls, those controls themselves (which are produced by
third-party software developers) almost certainly won't run on the Mac
platform - if they do, they'll surely advertise the fact.

You could, I guess, run a VNC connection from your Mac onto a Windows
machine running RealVNC and so run IE at one remove.  Video performance is
poor over such a connection, though.  Best I can suggest, apart from
contacting the DVR manufacturers (who will probably just shrug).

Phil, London





-Original Message-
From: vnc-list-boun...@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-boun...@realvnc.com] On
Behalf Of Howard Schroeder
Sent: 07 June 2009 19:13
To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
Subject: VNC on MAC viewing a windows based device

I have a situation where I need to be able to operate a windows based DVR
but I use a MAC laptop.  I understand that MAC do not support the Activex
control capability needed so I was hoping to be able to use VNC to remotely
operate the DVR and view the cameras via a remote session. Is this possible?

___
VNC-List mailing list
VNC-List@realvnc.com
To remove yourself from the list visit:
http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list


___
VNC-List mailing list
VNC-List@realvnc.com
To remove yourself from the list visit:
http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list


Re: VNC on MAC viewing a windows based device

2009-06-07 Thread Ryo Koyama
presuming you can load VNC on the DVR then yes, BUT probably won't
give you the results that you want (because it's a screen redraw the
playback quality will be poor).

depending on the Windows version running, RDP would be a better option
- but unclear if that would work.

can you provide a link to the DVR?  probably can give you some better
guidance if i knew what it was.

Ryo

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Howard
Schroederhowa...@gestechnical.com wrote:
 I have a situation where I need to be able to operate a windows based DVR
 but I use a MAC laptop.  I understand that MAC do not support the Activex
 control capability needed so I was hoping to be able to use VNC to remotely
 operate the DVR and view the cameras via a remote session. Is this possible?

 ___
 VNC-List mailing list
 VNC-List@realvnc.com
 To remove yourself from the list visit:
 http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list


___
VNC-List mailing list
VNC-List@realvnc.com
To remove yourself from the list visit:
http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list


RealVNC dotcursor showing on Virtuozzo Containers

2009-06-07 Thread Scott / Thorp Web
Hi guys!

 

I am having some annoying frustrations and am looking for help!  There is a
$500 bounty to the person who can find an acceptable solution for this
first!

 

 

When I run the RealVNC 4.4 (or newer) server/viewer on virtual desktops that
use virtualization technology such as VMWare, Xenserver, etc. the mouse
pointer shown on the screen is a normal white pointer.


But when I run RealVNC 4.4 server/viewer on a Virtuozzo Containers desktop
(Win Server 2003), the mouse pointer on the screen is the wretched
dotcursor (roughly 2x2 pixels black dot with a white outline).

 

When I run it on the hardware node that is managing the virtuozzo containers
(also Win Server 2003) it works perfectly fine - white arrow.   

 

It *only* shows up as a dotcursor inside the virtuozzo container.

 

 

RealVNC has confirmed that this happens because the VNC Server cannot detect
any mouse connected, and since there is no mouse, there is no arrow to draw.
And I did notice that our VMWare accounts have a virtual mouse installed
by the VMWare Tools software.   However, our hardware node (that runs the
containers) shows the mouse pointer just fine, even without a physical (or
virtual) mouse installed.

 

I've already tried installing some virtual mouse programs from
download.com (none worked) and I tried forcing some mouse drivers into it to
make it think it had a mouse but I couldn't get the drivers installed (x64
Windows Server 2003 maybe didn't like 32-bit drivers? I've never tried to
install mouse drivers before anyway).

 

 

Want to see it live?

 

IP:  69.73.169.33

Web link:  http://69.73.169.33:5800

Password:  1234

 

 

My target demographic for these VPS sales are in the 30-60 year old range,
investors who are mostly computer illiterate.  They just need a Windows VPS
to run software from, and RealVNC has been working GREAT on our VMWare
infrastructure.  However, we're moving to Virtuozzo for a variety of
reasons, and need RealVNC to continue working there too!  I surveyed our
current membership and the strong conclusion was that the dotcursor would
be very annoying and hard to use.

 

RealVNC will have this fixed in the VNC Server sometime next year, but I
need this fixed *this week* 

 

 

Any takers?   An acceptable solution will meet the following conditions:

 

Will be transparent to the end-user

Will show the normal white arrow pointer when using the RealVNC Viewer OR
java-based web access

Will show the normal double-arrow when hovering over the edges of windows
to resize them

Will not suck up a bunch of system resources

Is done entirely on the server and not using a command line or special
utility on the end-users computer

 

The $500 will be paid by check or PayPal, your choice.

 

Thank you!

 

--

Scott Wang

 Thorp Web

My cell:  715-512-0055

Email:  sc...@thorpweb.com

 

 

 

 

___
VNC-List mailing list
VNC-List@realvnc.com
To remove yourself from the list visit:
http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list


Re: VNC on MAC viewing a windows based device

2009-06-07 Thread Dale Eshelman
I see no reason why not as long as everything you want to do and see  
is available via the keyboard, mouse and the montior.
Expect some lag time in the displays. Do not expect live update to be  
live.

If you have an intel Mac with Leopard (10.5) - install Windozz XP  and  
use bootcamp to boot into windows.
To run the two OSs side by side get Parallels desktop, install the  
free open source MacFuse and NTFS-3G (to format the drive as NTFS and  
see/use Mac and Windows files), install windozz XP. Allocate at least  
30 gb to windozz. I took a well known authors advice and allocated a  
minimum 12gb. With Windozzz and minimal software, I am out of disk  
space.

On Jun 7, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Howard Schroeder wrote:

 I have a situation where I need to be able to operate a windows  
 based DVR
 but I use a MAC laptop.  I understand that MAC do not support the  
 Activex
 control capability needed so I was hoping to be able to use VNC to  
 remotely
 operate the DVR and view the cameras via a remote session. Is this  
 possible?

 ___
 VNC-List mailing list
 VNC-List@realvnc.com
 To remove yourself from the list visit:
 http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list

Dale Eshelman
eshelm...@gmail.com

ShopToEarn (Dist ID 105985)
  http://www.ShopToEarn.net/DaleEshelman


MonaVie (Distr ID 1316953)
http://www.monavie.com/Web/US/en/product_overview.dhtml

___
VNC-List mailing list
VNC-List@realvnc.com
To remove yourself from the list visit:
http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list


Fwd: VNC on MAC viewing a windows based device

2009-06-07 Thread Dale Eshelman
A couple other thoughts regarding your DVR system.

1 - you could use  RDC (Remote Desktop) from Microsoft. The Mac  
version is here 
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/remote-desktop/default.mspx 
  I am using 2.0.0.0 Beta3. Downside of RDC is it locks the screen of  
the PC/DVR you access. But the throughput is faster because Microsucks  
has access to technology the ouside world does not.

2 - Some and many current DVR software allows the set up of internet  
access. You can then access the cameras directly over a secure  
internet connection. It works fairly well.
I recently worked with ExacqVision Technologies http://www.exacq.com/  
and another I cannot think of the name right now. Exacq internet  
access works well for example.

3 - The question becomes the size of the DVR box, OS used (some of  
these guys install XP HOME claiming you dont need server so dont need  
XP Pro), and your ability to access the box as Admin (many of these  
guys setup and restrict access to themselves claiming the company does  
not need to access the box and they (the installer) will take care of  
it - a lock-in to yearly maintenance fees.
So really need more information here regarding the DVR box, OS, DVR  
software, your access priveleges.

Dale Eshelman
eshelm...@gmail.com

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Dale Eshelman eshelm...@gmail.com
 Date: June 7, 2009 3:06:10 PM CDT
 To: Howard Schroeder howa...@gestechnical.com
 Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com
 Subject: Re: VNC on MAC viewing a windows based device

 I see no reason why not as long as everything you want to do and see  
 is available via the keyboard, mouse and the montior.
 Expect some lag time in the displays. Do not expect live update to  
 be live.

 If you have an intel Mac with Leopard (10.5) - install Windozz XP   
 and use bootcamp to boot into windows.
 To run the two OSs side by side get Parallels desktop, install the  
 free open source MacFuse and NTFS-3G (to format the drive as NTFS  
 and see/use Mac and Windows files), install windozz XP. Allocate at  
 least 30 gb to windozz. I took a well known authors advice and  
 allocated a minimum 12gb. With Windozzz and minimal software, I am  
 out of disk space.

 On Jun 7, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Howard Schroeder wrote:

 I have a situation where I need to be able to operate a windows  
 based DVR
 but I use a MAC laptop.  I understand that MAC do not support the  
 Activex
 control capability needed so I was hoping to be able to use VNC to  
 remotely
 operate the DVR and view the cameras via a remote session. Is this  
 possible?

 ___
 VNC-List mailing list
 VNC-List@realvnc.com
 To remove yourself from the list visit:
 http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list

 Dale Eshelman
 eshelm...@gmail.com

 ShopToEarn (Dist ID 105985)
  http://www.ShopToEarn.net/DaleEshelman


 MonaVie (Distr ID 1316953)
 http://www.monavie.com/Web/US/en/product_overview.dhtml


Dale Eshelman
eshelm...@gmail.com

ShopToEarn (Dist ID 105985)
  http://www.ShopToEarn.net/DaleEshelman


MonaVie (Distr ID 1316953)
http://www.monavie.com/Web/US/en/product_overview.dhtml

___
VNC-List mailing list
VNC-List@realvnc.com
To remove yourself from the list visit:
http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list