Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
The Eschimoo style retirement system is a partial solution. I have confronted it for almost 16 years. Peter On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: It would not surprise me to learn that the Vort Collective is infested with a highe percentage of seniors who are older than me. I guess Australia is no longer on the table for the disposal of riff-raff. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
RE: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
It would not surprise me to learn that the Vort Collective is infested with a highe percentage of seniors who are older than me. I guess Australia is no longer on the table for the disposal of riff-raff. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: You know, if we could find a way to the stars, then suddenly, there's plenty of room for anyone who has ever lived, and anyone who wants to live forever. Naah, that just shoves the problem off into the future. See Asimov, The Last Question: http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html Besides, old people are not likely to travel so we we would end up having them clutter up the earth, like the old people who are left in rural districts in Japan after the young people moved to the big cities. That is depressing, let me tell you! The older I get, the less patience I have for old farts. Especially people in science such as Huizenga and Park. I agree with Max Planck that progress in science occurs funeral by funeral. A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. We need to be rid of old people, to give young people their turn. Death is as essential to social evolution as it is to biological evolution. It is essential to technology as well. James Watt was a gifted engineer and he made some of the greatest contributions to technology in history, but when he got old he held up progress. He insisted that steam cylinders should be kept at low pressure for safety. He had great authority and people stuck to his recommendations. After he died, Young Turks began building high pressure cylinders, which reduced the weight of steam engines, and improved the power to weight ratio. Without that, they could not have made things like steam locomotives. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
Here is an interesting thought, if this did work to produce thrust that did not act against the earth, then the earth would be moved in the direction of the device due to attraction to the device (flying car) equal to the weight of the object (it is attracted to the whole mass of the earth, and the whole mass of the earth is attracted to it). Since more of these flying vehicles would end up existing in the Northern hemisphere, especially the US the earth would be set off course. Not sure by how much but over time it would become significant, megatons of force applied to one side of the earth for long enough would end up being disastrous I am sure. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:06 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Tuesday's sermon Personally, I think it is a bogus premise to assume that Newton’s laws are not being violated when this EM device is speculated to be “hovering” a few feet above the surface of Earth. As Dave rightly points out if the “hovering” device were to be situated outside the influence of Earth’s gravity field the contraption would most certainly be caught in the act of accelerating – which presumably then means it’s violating Newton’s laws. My point is that if the EM device is presumably breaking Newton’s laws outside of Earth’s gravity field I don’t believe we can conveniently insert an exception to the rule and suddenly proclaim that within Earth’s gravity field the same EM device isn’t breaking those same laws. That makes absolutely no logical sense to me. It strikes me as a fudge factor. Nature, specifically our perception and quaint understanding of gravity fields, appears to be playing a very subtle trick on us. It’s most likely due our own ignorance hampering a better understanding of Newton’s laws being played out here, specifically the phenomenon we call gravity. Regarding gravity, our human bi-pedal brains have a very difficult time trying to grasp and understand the consequences of the simple but paradoxical equation “1/r^2”. IMHO, it is generally not perceived (or for that matter accepted) that as we stand on the surface of Earth that we are in a constant state acceleration. The point being: If we are accelerating why aren't we moving? However, according to Einstein: gravity and acceleration are precisely the same phenomenon being played out in different spatial fields. Our human perception is used to perceiving the phenomenon of acceleration as OBSERVING an object move, or more technically speaking the velocity of the object observed in a constant state of changing. We observe changes in velocity (acceleration) in *flat* spatial fields. But if you start bending (or subsequently concentrate) those spatial fields, such as what “1/r^2” does when approaching a large mass like Earth, it is possible to play tricks on our human perception. For example we perceive (and subsequently believe) stationary objects are at rest on the surface of earth, and that they have weight. It is ludicrous for our bi-pedal brains to perceive such stationary objects possessed with weight as accelerating, or moving. But according to Einstein such objects are accelerating. Therefore they are also in a constant state changing their velocity. That means they are moving! But we don't perceive them as moving! It's the curvature of the spatial field that results in such objects not appear to be moving (form our perception) which our bi-pedal brains are having a horrible time with. We are caught in a nasty paradox for which we have been trying to resolve with little success for centuries. For example, one of the most profound paradoxes we try not to think too much about is that if it takes a constant expenditure of energy (fuel) to keep a helicopter hovering 10 feet above the surface of earth – well then, where’s the energy (fuel) coming from that keeps gravity turned constantly “on” and us firmly planted on the surface of Earth? Obviously, we are missing something important here. ;-) Personally, I suspect one the subtle points we may have been glossing over is our ignorance of the consequences of manipulating spatial fields. If we can learn how to manipulate them out of the normal flat spatial planes that we typically exist in, and do so without having to consume gigawatts of energy, I think we would be in for a big surprise. I can't say what's has been happing under wraps in black ops for decades, but as far as we are concerned we don’t yet know how to bend or concentrate 3D SPACE on the human scale in the same manner that large bodies of mass have been bending spatial fields on the planetary scale since the beginning of time. But if we could learn how to do it, it will likely reap many untold benefits. Anti-gravity for example. Alas, this is a tough one. For millions of years our bi-pedal brains have had a difficult time wrapping around the concept of not falling out of the tree. Kan't be done, we
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
The reason people are hysterical about death, including religious from the Abrahamic to Transhumanism, is because civilization is dysgenic and in a dysgenic society every death is a loss of Creation. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: You know, if we could find a way to the stars, then suddenly, there's plenty of room for anyone who has ever lived, and anyone who wants to live forever. Naah, that just shoves the problem off into the future. See Asimov, The Last Question: http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html Besides, old people are not likely to travel so we we would end up having them clutter up the earth, like the old people who are left in rural districts in Japan after the young people moved to the big cities. That is depressing, let me tell you! The older I get, the less patience I have for old farts. Especially people in science such as Huizenga and Park. I agree with Max Planck that progress in science occurs funeral by funeral. A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. We need to be rid of old people, to give young people their turn. Death is as essential to social evolution as it is to biological evolution. It is essential to technology as well. James Watt was a gifted engineer and he made some of the greatest contributions to technology in history, but when he got old he held up progress. He insisted that steam cylinders should be kept at low pressure for safety. He had great authority and people stuck to his recommendations. After he died, Young Turks began building high pressure cylinders, which reduced the weight of steam engines, and improved the power to weight ratio. Without that, they could not have made things like steam locomotives. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
The way to the stars better be an under-$1000 Portal in every village. Spaceships are too frigin expensive to move any but a tiny fraction of our billions. Ol' Bab On 5/14/2015 7:21 AM, Craig Haynie wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 07:07 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old people cluttering up society. [...] You know, if we could find a way to the stars, then suddenly, there's plenty of room for anyone who has ever lived, and anyone who wants to live forever. Craig --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The reason people are hysterical about death . . . . . . is the same reason all animals are. It is the instinct of self preservation. Even cockroaches are terrified of death. If they were not, predators would have hunted them to extinction eons ago. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 13:01 -0500, David L. Babcock wrote: The way to the stars better be an under-$1000 Portal in every village. Spaceships are too frigin expensive to move any but a tiny fraction of our billions. Expensive? That thinking is so... 20th century. :) Cheap energy makes everything cheap. Craig
[Vo]:news for May 14, 2015
Dear Readers, Things happen, I comment mainly if/when I know and understand them http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/05/lenr-newsnot-earth-wide-as-yesterday.html It happens, Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Death awareness is different from survival instinct. It is death awareness that allows we humans to make value judgements like the one you made about the structure of scientific revolutions, and act on those values. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The reason people are hysterical about death . . . . . . is the same reason all animals are. It is the instinct of self preservation. Even cockroaches are terrified of death. If they were not, predators would have hunted them to extinction eons ago. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
I looked up dysgenic. Well, maybe I did not get it. I think Jed is correct. I think the problem is that I do not think Jed's analysis includes me.:) All others and the theory is perfect. No, if we need a more sophisticated word than selfishness let us try narcissism. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:15 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The reason people are hysterical about death, including religious from the Abrahamic to Transhumanism, is because civilization is dysgenic and in a dysgenic society every death is a loss of Creation. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: You know, if we could find a way to the stars, then suddenly, there's plenty of room for anyone who has ever lived, and anyone who wants to live forever. Naah, that just shoves the problem off into the future. See Asimov, The Last Question: http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html Besides, old people are not likely to travel so we we would end up having them clutter up the earth, like the old people who are left in rural districts in Japan after the young people moved to the big cities. That is depressing, let me tell you! The older I get, the less patience I have for old farts. Especially people in science such as Huizenga and Park. I agree with Max Planck that progress in science occurs funeral by funeral. A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. We need to be rid of old people, to give young people their turn. Death is as essential to social evolution as it is to biological evolution. It is essential to technology as well. James Watt was a gifted engineer and he made some of the greatest contributions to technology in history, but when he got old he held up progress. He insisted that steam cylinders should be kept at low pressure for safety. He had great authority and people stuck to his recommendations. After he died, Young Turks began building high pressure cylinders, which reduced the weight of steam engines, and improved the power to weight ratio. Without that, they could not have made things like steam locomotives. - Jed
[Vo]:STEORN news: THE IRISH TIMES - Self-charging battery causes a stir in Dublin pub test
Enjoy: http://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/self-charging-battery-causes-a -stir-in-dublin-pub-test-1.2211622 http://tinyurl.com/kcvvcqa Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:3D metal printing
3D metal printing is coming along nicely. A 3D-printed mini jet engine that performs at 33,000 RPM http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-3d-printed-mini-jet-engine-that-performs-at-33000-rpm I like the idea of a micro turbine gen set for the Hot Cat better than the seemingly more popular Stirling engine. There are quite a range of these in commercial use now. It seems to me relatively simple to replace the natural gas heating by Hot Cats. I thought this was neat example of a very small one. (400 W) https://youtu.be/Al8elCF816g
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Portals and ships
You fail to factor in the enormous sheer tonnage of steel and other metals required. Confounding that it's not just peak oil we're at, it's peak nearly everything. Jed would argue, I think, that enough energy combined with engineering and plant materials -renewables- will make feasible cheap replacements for almost any sort of spacecraft components. I argue that the tonnage does you in. Visualize an ocean liner for every small town, a fleet of them for every city. One -big- fleet making round trips till the job is done? Time. Unless FTL. This is Vo, but... Ol' Bab On 5/14/2015 1:03 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 13:01 -0500, David L. Babcock wrote: The way to the stars better be an under-$1000 Portal in every village. Spaceships are too frigin expensive to move any but a tiny fraction of our billions. Expensive? That thinking is so... 20th century. :) Cheap energy makes everything cheap. Craig --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [Vo]:news for May 14, 2015
My opinion regarding this statement... “4. Norman D. Cook, Andrea Rossi, «On the Nuclear Mechanisms Underlying the Heat Production by the E-Cat», http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1504/1504.01261.pdf I confess I like how this author thinks!” Analysis of the experimental evidence from Lagano contradictes this reaction mechanism. A more appropriate Analysis goes as follows... The complete conversion of a 10 nm diameter nickel particle might provide supporting evidence that protons find their way into the center of these massive nickel particles by quantum teleportation supported by the entanglement of protons in the hydrogen gas that riddle outside the nickel particle and the atoms of nickel inside the particle. Yes, Teleportation...like in star trek. A proton located in the hydrogen gas envelope does not need to find its way through large amounts of nickel by bumping and grinding their way through all that nickel. These protons just appear like magic inside the micro particle. This conclusion might seem ridiculous on it face but this conclusion is fully supported by the experimental evidence from Lagano. If the protons or in fact any subatomic particle did physically penetrate the nickel particle, we would expect that the outer layers of the particle would experience more nuclear reactions than the center of the particle. This penetration type of reaction would produce a layered ash profile. The outmost surface of the particle should have some copper and/or zinc content, and the inside should still have some untouched lower Z isotopes of nickel...like Ni58. But NO, the particle is pure Ni62, completely homogeneous Ni62, utterly pure Ni62. It must be that the protons that make up the gas envelope see no material resistance to the penetration of the nickel. The entangled protons mated with each nickel atom move through the nickel particle via the 5th dimension in which entanglement works directly through the nickel bulk to its entangled nickel mate into the center of the micro particle or to its dedicate nanowire edge with equal probability. This looks like proton teleportation to me. And even more perplexing, the delicate nickel nanowire surface covering of the miro particle is pure NI62. This delicate surface nano sized feature has suffered no subatomic particle impact damage what so ever. This ash looks the same as the fuel...physically unchanged but isotopically different. No neutrons were detected so the active subatomic particle supporting the Ni58 to Ni63 transmutation must be protons from the gas outside the particle. These protons change themselves into neutron after they enter the Ni58 nucleus. Yes, this is impossible to believe, If it weren't for logic and the results of Lagano experiment, what other answer could there be? Norman D. Cook abd Andrea Rossi are inventing theory that has no experimental foundation from Lagano data. How can you admire such a misrepresentation of reality? On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Readers, Things happen, I comment mainly if/when I know and understand them http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/05/lenr-newsnot-earth-wide-as-yesterday.html It happens, Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Portals and ships
David L. Babcock olb...@gmail.com wrote: You fail to factor in the enormous sheer tonnage of steel and other metals required. I suppose a star ship would have to be made of stronger materials than steel. Something more like what you make a space elevator out of. Confounding that it's not just peak oil we're at, it's peak nearly everything. By the time we make star ships, we will already have colonized the solar system. We will have all of the steel, carbon and other materials on all planets and asteroids, which is a far larger mass of material than we have available on earth. However, as I said, I think it would be more convenient to collect a large fraction of the sun's light and convert it back from energy into mass. Assuming this can be done. The sun loses 4 million tons per second in mass-energy conversion. If we collect and convert it back into whatever elements we need, that is enough to build any number of star ships in a short time. The largest cruise ships today are 100,000 tons and they carry 5,000 people. So we could launch 40 cruise ships per second, enough to carry 200,000 people crammed together in 21st century quarters. Say, we launch one ship per second, of 4 million tons, and it carries only 10,000 people in luxury. That would be 700,000 seconds to accommodate the entire present world population. That's 194 hours, or 8 days. Jed would argue, I think, that enough energy combined with engineering and plant materials -renewables- will make feasible cheap replacements for almost any sort of spacecraft components. Not renewable. Extra-terrestrial. I argue that the tonnage does you in. Visualize an ocean liner for every small town, a fleet of them for every city. Visualize 40 ocean liners per second and you will have a more realistic notion of what people will be capable of making -- a few thousand years from now. Not that people will construct such things, of course. Robots will. Trillions and trillions of robots. Most of them no larger than an insect, I suppose. Do not ask where they will come from. That is like asking where bacteria come from. From other bacteria! They are self reproducing. - Jed
[Vo]:Quasar quartet puzzles scientists - Halton Arp rises from the Grave!
This is a classic example of Halton Arp's concept of how galaxy clusters form - note all 4 are in a strait line - no mention of location of this chain of Quasars - afraid someone might associate it with a closer galaxy! http://www.mpg.de/9229786/quasar-quartet?filter_order=Lresearch_topic= http://www.haltonarp.com/articles/origins_of_quasars_and_galaxy_clusters Two of the best books by Arp on this subject: Seeing Red - Redshifts, Cosmology and Academic Science Catalogue of Discordant Redshift Associations
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Jed, Deathism is the sickest mental state of humans at the moment. It is like a spell. People glorify and justify death as a good thing. It infuriates me that people advocate death, and it doesn't matter if it is by old age. We are not talking about keeping people in old age frail, cognitive impaired and not productive but keeping people young and healthy for indefinite life spans. This is the most noble and worthwhile goal one can imagine. We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old people cluttering up society. Especially in science this would put an end to progress -- which happens funeral by funeral. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: You do not see many innovative new ideas coming out of North Korea. But I must say, they do come up with unexpected ways to kill off top officials. Here is the latest headline from the New York Times: North Korea Said to Execute a Top Official, With an Antiaircraft Gun This tidbit of news was recently called into doubt: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/14/south-korea-rows-back-over-north-korea-anti-aircraft-gun-execution-claim Knowing what other kinds of purges have taken place, I suppose this is only a question about a point of fact, and not one of whether North Korea would resort to something like this. Eric
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. Yeah? What makes you think the creative productive people would be preserved? No way! It would be the wealthy and brutal people. If we had this in the 20th century, Stalin would still be in charge of Russia. J. Gould and the other robber barons would still be running Wall Street. The Kim family would run North Korea forever. In cold fusion, opponents such as Huizenga would make policy for the next 500 years, and they would never allow research. Young people would never be able to contribute, or even grow up. Even James Watt became an impediment to progress at the end of his life. Death leads to turnover. It gives young people with fresh perspectives a chance. Most great science is done by young people. If the old scientists never get out the way, new ideas will never be published. I agree with Max Planck. Death is sad for the individual, but it is a blessing to society, and it is essential. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
And if people minds are kept young and vibrant there is no need for physical death to bring change and progress. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: Jed, Deathism is the sickest mental state of humans at the moment. It is like a spell. People glorify and justify death as a good thing. It infuriates me that people advocate death, and it doesn't matter if it is by old age. We are not talking about keeping people in old age frail, cognitive impaired and not productive but keeping people young and healthy for indefinite life spans. This is the most noble and worthwhile goal one can imagine. We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old people cluttering up society. Especially in science this would put an end to progress -- which happens funeral by funeral. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Dr M McKubre to talk at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21
I can ask Mike what will he tell there but usually he writes his speeches in the last minute to be inspired and up-to-date. So has he done t ICCF-19 too were he made a very good compromise between the old (PdD) and the new, LENR+ You can remark that McKubre tries to be uptodate with the new trend despite being one of the champions of the FP Cell a great electrochemist. In direct contrast with Ed Storms, for example. My best greetings to you- see you at the today's demo. Peter On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, I integrated those new data 2015-05-13 18:59 GMT+02:00 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: See please Ego Out of today. We can ask Mike about details. Peter On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: Pietro F and Pelgrim 108 found that there will be a presentation by Michael McKubre on LENR at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21 http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/ssc/atc/colloquia.html http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/news/index.php/News/92-Lockheed-Martin-Palo-Alto-Colloquia-May-21-%E2%80%93-Low-Energy-Nuclear-Reactions-LENR-D/ does anyone have more information on that event ? It seems a video/audio broadcast... -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old people cluttering up society. Especially in science this would put an end to progress -- which happens funeral by funeral. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Personally, I think it is a bogus premise to assume that Newton’s laws are not being violated when this EM device is speculated to be “hovering” a few feet above the surface of Earth. As Dave rightly points out if the “hovering” device were to be situated outside the influence of Earth’s gravity field the contraption would most certainly be caught in the act of accelerating – which presumably then means it’s violating Newton’s laws. When contemplating antigravity thought experiments, one is reminded that a device that feels the earth's gravitational pull is part of a system of two objects, which comprises the earth and the device. The two orbit around their common center of mass, which is, effectively speaking, the same as the earth's center of mass. A mechanism able to counter this equal gravitational attraction between the two objects would have the effect of separating the two from one another a little in their common orbit. I suppose that could either be accomplished by altering the fabric of spacetime for the two objects (and presumably them alone) so that spacetime is less curved; or, alternatively, by increasing the rate at which they orbit one another around their common center of mass. Regarding gravity, our human bi-pedal brains have a very difficult time trying to grasp and understand the consequences of the simple but paradoxical equation “1/r^2”. IMHO, it is generally not perceived (or for that matter accepted) that as we stand on the surface of Earth that we are in a constant state acceleration. The point being: If we are accelerating why aren't we moving? However, according to Einstein: gravity and acceleration are precisely the same phenomenon being played out in different spatial fields. You have raised a very interesting question here. Eric
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Giovanni, I think you said it better than I could. I say it is a little bit of narcissism if you want to see the negative side. However, why would it be true that the bad people would be the one surviving , Jed? I am sure you are wrong and making Huizenga an example smacks of poor judgement. He might have had a different opinion. He might have been wrong. His ability to make life good for him is what it is all about in this question. No, it is not as noble as you say Jed. Much more me, myself and I. Anybody reading this wants to say; I am below the level of contribution so let me die. No, nobody wants to say so, I find that good. I think if there is a way of making life interesting and be productive, the date on the birth certificate does not matter. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: And if people minds are kept young and vibrant there is no need for physical death to bring change and progress. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: Jed, Deathism is the sickest mental state of humans at the moment. It is like a spell. People glorify and justify death as a good thing. It infuriates me that people advocate death, and it doesn't matter if it is by old age. We are not talking about keeping people in old age frail, cognitive impaired and not productive but keeping people young and healthy for indefinite life spans. This is the most noble and worthwhile goal one can imagine. We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old people cluttering up society. Especially in science this would put an end to progress -- which happens funeral by funeral. - Jed
