date:20170713

Re: [Vo]:Allais Effect

2017-07-13 Thread Terry Blanton

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:19 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Terry—
>
>
>
> Do  you know that the Allais Effect is predicted in some manner by
> Munera”s theory involving the concept of an aether in 3D space, or is you
> comment merely conjecture?
>
>
>
> If not conjecture, what is your basis for the comment about proving an
> aether exists?
>

Basis?  No basis, merely opportunity.  This August total eclipse ranges
from the Pacific Northwest to the Southeast giving most experimentalists
the opportunity to do what they do.  If you read the wikipedia article, you
will see that there are many which still are trying to explain the anomaly.

If you are not an experimentalist, I urge you to seek out the shadow snakes
during the eclipse.  This phenomenon is also known as shadow bands and I
personally had the pleasure of observing them during the eclipse of, what,
1979.  My best friend, standing right next to me missed them.  It was like
a moire pattern of shadow and light that undulated like it was alive.  They
are difficult to photograph but, I think a high frame rate camera might be
successful.

So, join me in Pendleton, SC at the Holiday Inn Express with my Kit and my
Pendulum for luciferous aether and shadow snakes and cocktails.  We will
have a jolly time!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_bands

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin O'Malley

I updated their blog entry for them.

http://www.quantumheat.org/#comment-8874

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin O'Malley

On 7/13/17, Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> You asked; they answered. What's your problem?
***My problem is that it took them 4 years to do it and they don't
address how they prioritize scientific pursuits.   It's willy nilly.



>> We should see their reasoning for supporting some
>> research over other research if they want us to continue to support
>> them.
>
>
> Are you supporting them?
***Yes

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Jed Rothwell

Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

  What do you expect them to do?

***I expect them to inform us on the blog they chose to inform us.
> It would have cost them 10 minutes of their time.

You asked; they answered. What's your problem?

>They have gone
> off on 4 or 5 external trips, chasing down chimera that had less
> chance than this.

Do you mean that Me356 guy? I agree that was a wild goose chase.

> We should see their reasoning for supporting some
> research over other research if they want us to continue to support
> them.

Are you supporting them?

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Allais Effect

2017-07-13 Thread ROGER ANDERTON

Bob,

Munera paperInterconnection of all Forces of Nature via the Energy and momentum 
equations for a fluid aether

at: 
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=r1gGCwAAQBAJ=PA265=PA265=allais+munera+boscovich=bl=qJecuWKKjd=RG6_qIVVpRuAZdUnL7gMdU4fyIQ=en=X=0ahUKEwiMpdOLpIfVAhVIVRoKHbnUDNgQ6AEINTAD#v=onepage=allais%20munera%20boscovich=false

or a better copy of the paper can be requested from him
Munera in my view does hedge his bets how a fluid aether would fully fit Allais 
effect. But the fluid aether goes back to being based on Boscovich's 
point-particles (18th century) and this was the basis of modern physics leading 
to quantum mechanics. Stoiljkovic talk in Serbia:
>From Boscovich's theory to modern quantum theory: Prof Dragoslav Stoiljkovic

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>From Boscovich's theory to modern quantum theory: Prof Dragoslav Stoilj...
 "From Boscovich's theory to modern quantum theory": talk by retired Professor 
Dragoslav Stoiljkovi...  |   |

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My talk this year is that Einstein's relativity has been mistranslated and is 
thus really based on Boscovich theory.
Einstein misunderstood and mistranslated
Provisional ANPA 2017 Speakers and Attendees – Alternative Natural Philosophy 
Association

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Provisional ANPA 2017 Speakers and Attendees – Alternative Natural Philosophy 
Association
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So whole basis of modern theoretical physics has been based on a false 
narrative that has omitted work of Boscovich when taught to physics .students.
Boscovich statue

Many more people now writing on Boscovich
regardsRoger

On Thursday, 13 July 2017, 18:20, "bobcook39...@hotmail.com" 
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Do  you know that the Allais Effect is predicted in some manner by Munera”s 
theory involving the concept of an aether in 3D space, or is you comment merely 
conjecture?   If not conjecture, what is your basis for the comment about 
proving an aether exists?   Bob Cook   Sent from Mail for Windows 10   From: 
Terry Blanton
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:15 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Allais Effect   In August you will have a chance to prove the 
aether exists.    http://www.allais.info/    
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allais_effect

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin O'Malley

On 7/13/17, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
  What do you expect them to do?
***I expect them to inform us on the blog they chose to inform us.
It would have cost them 10 minutes of their time.   They have gone
off on 4 or 5 external trips, chasing down chimera that had less
chance than this.   We should see their reasoning for supporting some
research over other research if they want us to continue to support
them.   If they can spend time going around the world, they can spend
the time updating us.  It has turned out exactly as I said, they
dropped this line of inquiry and blithely went on to something else.

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Jed Rothwell

Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

Then you have confirmed it:  That promising line of inquiry was
> dropped.


They had to drop it. What do you expect them to do? The guy who was doing
it had to get a job and support his family.

You have no business complaining about this. Are you going to pay his
salary and lab expenses? Do you expect him to work for free while his
family starves?

There is practically no cold fusion research in the world because it costs
money, and there is no money. People seem to think that middle-class
researchers can buy equipment costing hundreds of thousands of dollars in
labs that cost ten thousand a month to run . . . how? By waving a magic
wand? Transmuting lead into gold?

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin O'Malley

Then you have confirmed it:  That promising line of inquiry was
dropped.   You should at least post what you just said on the MFMP
website and ask for anyone who might be interested in furthering this
line of inquiry to get involved.  It wasn't dropped due to lack of
progress, it was dropped due to personal circumstance.

On 7/13/17, AlanG  wrote:
> The experiment reported in your link was done by Mathieu Valat in
> France, with support from Jean-Paul Biberian. Mathieu was unable to
> continue that work due to the burden of supporting a family. However, he
> has recently re-commissioned his concentric-tube calorimeter and gamma
> spectrometer in a new lab. Due to his employment restrictions, he is no
> longer able to pursue this work under the MFMP umbrella, but we hope he
> will publish any significant findings in the future.
>
> Research is a slow, methodical process, with each step refining the
> parameters and adding to the body of knowledge. In each of our projects,
> we try to build on what we learned in previous work. Thus Mathieu's
> report led me to acquiring a gamma spectrometer and other detectors for
> low-energy gamma. This in turn enabled the detection in GS5.2 of
> brehmsstralung gamma emission. My current project has a similar goal,
> looking for photon emission from prepared samples of Nickel and other
> metals exposed to hydrogen, so the work goes on.
>
> On 7/13/2017 6:59 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
>> Alan:
>>
>> The original gamma finding was never updated in 2013.   MFMP simply
>> went silent on it.
>>
>> http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/de/16-progress-blog/347-gamma
>>
>>
>> On 7/12/17, AlanG  wrote:
>>> Every experiment we run since 2013 has gamma spectrometry in place as
>>> well as a sensitive Geiger-Muller pancake detector and several neutron
>>> bubble detectors. All the spectral data and G-M counts are published in
>>> near real time and made permanently available for open viewing and
>>> analysis. Just follow the links I posted.
>>>
>>> As a general rule, we try to avoid drawing conclusions from our data
>>> unless it is clearly unusual, and only then after extensive analysis and
>>> discussion by the Crowd. This includes you of course, and I encourage
>>> you to look at the gamma data from GS5.3 and GS5.4 which ran earlier
>>> this year. If you see anything that looks unusual or otherwise worth
>>> discussion, let us all know.
>>>
>>> *AlanG / MFMP*
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2017 4:44 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
 The issue is:What have you been doing with that gamma ray thing.  All
 the rest fits into what I called "whatever it is".

 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017, AlanG > wrote:

  On 7/11/2017 10:24 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
>  The gamma ray finding of MFMP was replicated within 48 hours by
> Hans
>  Biberian.   And then they just faded away onto whatever it is
> they've
>  been doing for 4 years.
  Kevin, your comment suggests that you haven't been paying
  attention or even bothering to search. Just this year, we
  performed four serious experiments as a group and individually,
  including an in-depth detailed field test of the me356 reactor.
  Our goal is the practice of Live Open Science, and nothing is
  hidden, no matter what we find.

  My current research in Ni-Ag (Live Doc - watch for updates) can be
  seen at https://goo.gl/rTDz87

  Below is a partial list of links to our previous work over the
  past five years, in roughly chronological order.
  *
  **AlanG / MFMP*

  Dogbone->Glowstick genesis
  &
  Glowstick Sealing Evernote (AG)
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz7lTfqkED9WYUhFZDJhNjRVTm8/view

 

  Ni Etching Evernote
  http://www.evernote.com/l/AXeIG29QrzhC3KVjl9Qf9aJsigzQ671dDG0/
  

  Dogbone Evernote (Ryan Hunt)

 https://www.evernote.com/pub/marpooties/projectdogbone#st=p=ca649d5c-7e11-47e8-9299-a0483fb38972

 

  Higgins_Dogbone_drawings

 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0yO8n6-0MjNakxTNW9xbHBFaEU

 

  Higgins Spec7 (GS5.2)  Analysis http://goo.gl/DOiXYe

  QuantumHeat Dogbone blog

 http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/experiements/active-experiments/pdb

 

  Dogbone Live Doc

RE: [Vo]:Allais Effect

2017-07-13 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com

Terry—

Do  you know that the Allais Effect is predicted in some manner by Munera”s 
theory involving the concept of an aether in 3D space, or is you comment merely 
conjecture?

If not conjecture, what is your basis for the comment about proving an aether 
exists?

Bob Cook

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Terry Blanton
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:15 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Allais Effect

In August you will have a chance to prove the aether exists.

http://www.allais.info/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allais_effect

The experiment reported in your link was done by Mathieu Valat in
France, with support from Jean-Paul Biberian. Mathieu was unable to
continue that work due to the burden of supporting a family. However, he
has recently re-commissioned his concentric-tube calorimeter and gamma
spectrometer in a new lab. Due to his employment restrictions, he is no
longer able to pursue this work under the MFMP umbrella, but we hope he
will publish any significant findings in the future.

Research is a slow, methodical process, with each step refining the
parameters and adding to the body of knowledge. In each of our projects,
we try to build on what we learned in previous work. Thus Mathieu's
report led me to acquiring a gamma spectrometer and other detectors for
low-energy gamma. This in turn enabled the detection in GS5.2 of
brehmsstralung gamma emission. My current project has a similar goal,
looking for photon emission from prepared samples of Nickel and other
metals exposed to hydrogen, so the work goes on.

On 7/13/2017 6:59 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:

Alan:

The original gamma finding was never updated in 2013. MFMP simply
went silent on it.

http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/de/16-progress-blog/347-gamma

On 7/12/17, AlanG wrote:

Every experiment we run since 2013 has gamma spectrometry in place as
well as a sensitive Geiger-Muller pancake detector and several neutron
bubble detectors. All the spectral data and G-M counts are published in
near real time and made permanently available for open viewing and
analysis. Just follow the links I posted.

As a general rule, we try to avoid drawing conclusions from our data
unless it is clearly unusual, and only then after extensive analysis and
discussion by the Crowd. This includes you of course, and I encourage
you to look at the gamma data from GS5.3 and GS5.4 which ran earlier
this year. If you see anything that looks unusual or otherwise worth
discussion, let us all know.

*AlanG / MFMP*

On 7/12/2017 4:44 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:

The issue is:What have you been doing with that gamma ray thing. All
the rest fits into what I called "whatever it is".

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017, AlanG > wrote:

On 7/11/2017 10:24 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:

The gamma ray finding of MFMP was replicated within 48 hours by Hans
Biberian. And then they just faded away onto whatever it is
they've
been doing for 4 years.

Kevin, your comment suggests that you haven't been paying
attention or even bothering to search. Just this year, we
performed four serious experiments as a group and individually,
including an in-depth detailed field test of the me356 reactor.
Our goal is the practice of Live Open Science, and nothing is
hidden, no matter what we find.

My current research in Ni-Ag (Live Doc - watch for updates) can be
seen at https://goo.gl/rTDz87

Below is a partial list of links to our previous work over the
past five years, in roughly chronological order.
*
**AlanG / MFMP*

Dogbone->Glowstick genesis
&
Glowstick Sealing Evernote (AG)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz7lTfqkED9WYUhFZDJhNjRVTm8/view

Ni Etching Evernote
http://www.evernote.com/l/AXeIG29QrzhC3KVjl9Qf9aJsigzQ671dDG0/

Dogbone Evernote (Ryan Hunt)

https://www.evernote.com/pub/marpooties/projectdogbone#st=p=ca649d5c-7e11-47e8-9299-a0483fb38972

Higgins_Dogbone_drawings
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0yO8n6-0MjNakxTNW9xbHBFaEU

Higgins Spec7 (GS5.2) Analysis http://goo.gl/DOiXYe

QuantumHeat Dogbone blog

http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/experiements/active-experiments/pdb

Dogbone Live Doc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F12E3BEtjr8PTm7-t-uWDF0OSNrdO9biuD5GJWoHWhE/

or
goo.gl/JzCLRg

Dogbone Analysis - Excess Heat calc. http://goo.gl/0rP40x (Higgins)

Dogbone Analysis paper (Higgins)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Pc25a4cOM2TWU5Vk80VkxwYVU/view

Core Heater notes (w/coil shadow)

https://www.evernote.com/pub/alang152/dogbonecoreheater#st=p=313ebf33-5c4b-49e5-94a6-05f983b2eed6

or
goo.gl/4YLDgM

GS2 data archive

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin O'Malley

Alan:

The original gamma finding was never updated in 2013.   MFMP simply
went silent on it.

http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/de/16-progress-blog/347-gamma


On 7/12/17, AlanG  wrote:
> Every experiment we run since 2013 has gamma spectrometry in place as
> well as a sensitive Geiger-Muller pancake detector and several neutron
> bubble detectors. All the spectral data and G-M counts are published in
> near real time and made permanently available for open viewing and
> analysis. Just follow the links I posted.
>
> As a general rule, we try to avoid drawing conclusions from our data
> unless it is clearly unusual, and only then after extensive analysis and
> discussion by the Crowd. This includes you of course, and I encourage
> you to look at the gamma data from GS5.3 and GS5.4 which ran earlier
> this year. If you see anything that looks unusual or otherwise worth
> discussion, let us all know.
>
> *AlanG / MFMP*
>
> On 7/12/2017 4:44 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
>> The issue is:What have you been doing with that gamma ray thing.  All
>> the rest fits into what I called "whatever it is".
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017, AlanG > > wrote:
>>
>> On 7/11/2017 10:24 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
>>> The gamma ray finding of MFMP was replicated within 48 hours by Hans
>>> Biberian.   And then they just faded away onto whatever it is
>>> they've
>>> been doing for 4 years.
>> Kevin, your comment suggests that you haven't been paying
>> attention or even bothering to search. Just this year, we
>> performed four serious experiments as a group and individually,
>> including an in-depth detailed field test of the me356 reactor.
>> Our goal is the practice of Live Open Science, and nothing is
>> hidden, no matter what we find.
>>
>> My current research in Ni-Ag (Live Doc - watch for updates) can be
>> seen at https://goo.gl/rTDz87
>>
>> Below is a partial list of links to our previous work over the
>> past five years, in roughly chronological order.
>> *
>> **AlanG / MFMP*
>>
>> Dogbone->Glowstick genesis
>> &
>> Glowstick Sealing Evernote (AG)
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz7lTfqkED9WYUhFZDJhNjRVTm8/view
>> 
>>
>> Ni Etching Evernote
>> http://www.evernote.com/l/AXeIG29QrzhC3KVjl9Qf9aJsigzQ671dDG0/
>> 
>>
>> Dogbone Evernote (Ryan Hunt)
>>
>> https://www.evernote.com/pub/marpooties/projectdogbone#st=p=ca649d5c-7e11-47e8-9299-a0483fb38972
>>
>> 
>>
>> Higgins_Dogbone_drawings
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0yO8n6-0MjNakxTNW9xbHBFaEU
>> 
>>
>> Higgins Spec7 (GS5.2)  Analysis http://goo.gl/DOiXYe
>>
>> QuantumHeat Dogbone blog
>>
>> http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/experiements/active-experiments/pdb
>>
>> 
>>
>> Dogbone Live Doc
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F12E3BEtjr8PTm7-t-uWDF0OSNrdO9biuD5GJWoHWhE/
>>
>> 
>> or
>> goo.gl/JzCLRg 
>>
>> Dogbone Analysis - Excess Heat calc. http://goo.gl/0rP40x   (Higgins)
>>
>> Dogbone Analysis paper (Higgins)
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Pc25a4cOM2TWU5Vk80VkxwYVU/view
>> 
>>
>> Core Heater notes (w/coil shadow)
>>
>> https://www.evernote.com/pub/alang152/dogbonecoreheater#st=p=313ebf33-5c4b-49e5-94a6-05f983b2eed6
>>
>> 
>> or
>> goo.gl/4YLDgM 
>>
>> GS2 data archive
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxxJkjesxe4kfktqTHMxQ0Vxb3M0N0tVZDVPNHQtWGhOeXN4SUJ3TUdmYlhsTkE3eFoxUFk
>>
>> 
>> or
>> goo.gl/db2Ogl 
>>
>> GS3 data archive
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxxJkjesxe4kfm9pVEhvU3RKNzR6ZEcxUktYYThPRXBHZHBPOFBCV1RiMzdmbU45RW13cm8
>>
>> 
>> or
>> goo.gl/MyX0Jh 
>>
>> GS4 data archive
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxxJkjesxe4kfnczTEJoV1RnQnphNTFQVUhUc29LQTlqOGxpamVfbDBxT3gwa01OdUI4Z28
>>
>> 
>> or
>>

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