Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Axil Axil]

When the meissner effect associated with Hole superconductivity goes away
during the shutdown of the LENR reaction, all the electrons that were
pushed out of the positive superconductive core fall back into that core.
This movement of electrons produce bremsstrahlung radiation when the LENR
reaction deactivates.

On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 9:50 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Axil—
>
>
>
> With the loss of a magneticfield the resonant conditions providing
> coupling of a nucleus  to the lattice electrons are eliminated; however,
> with the transient magnetic field short lived resonances are established
> that allow nuclear isomers or other unstable isotopes that decay or react
> with production of gammas or the 0.51 Mev EM radiation associated with the
> reaction of a electron and a positron.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
> *From: *Axil Axil 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:45 PM
> *To: *vortex-l 
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled
>
>
>
> Gamma's were also seen at reaction shutdown. What produces those gammas?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
>
> I believe gammas are generated and then absorbed into the BEC, sliced
> and diced into X rays.   That is, the vast majority of the gammas.
> Some poke their heads through, especially in the initial phase where
> it's an endothermic reaction starting the whole thing.   That's why
> Celani saw Gammas at Rossi's demo, but only at the outset.
>
>
> On 7/11/17, Axil Axil  wrote:
> > Gamma rays are not generated in LENR reactions because the reaction
> energy
> > is completely drained by the entanglement of the SPP BEC that is in place
> > on the nanoparticles that produce the LENR reaction.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have thought for a long time that there have been multiple LENR
> >> reactions.   When you let loose a gamma inside a lattice and it hits
> >> those other nickel (or palladium) atoms, it generates fission
> >> reactions.   The ash analysis results have been all over the board.
> >>
> >> On 7/11/17, Axil Axil  wrote:
> >> > I now believe that there is multiple LENR reaction types. For example,
> >> > Rossi has developed a low temperature LENR reaction and has tested it
> >> > in
> >> > the yearlong IH test. The mechanism for this type of LENR reaction is
> >> based
> >> > on magnetic flux line focusing by the hexagonal based lattice of mica.
> >> This
> >> > reaction mechanism follows along the lines that was shown to be
> >> > effective
> >> > in the Golden Balls of D. Cravins where the magnetic flux lines of a
> >> SmCo5
> >> > magnet is focused by the hexagonal based lattice of graphite.
> >> >
> >> > See
> >> >
> >> > https://www.nature.com/articles/srep16184
> >> >
> >> > This article explains how magnetism can be focused into skyrmion
> >> > magnetic
> >> > textures involving topological, non-topological and instanton droplets
> >> > driven by spin-transfer torque in materials with perpendicular
> magnetic
> >> > anisotropy and Dzyaloshinskii–Moriya Interaction
> >> >
> >> > During the year long test, Rossi has stumbled on the plasma phase LENR
> >> > reaction and has built the QuarkX reactor to take advantage of this
> >> > reaction type. Rossi has come to believe correctly that the plasma
> type
> >> > LENR reaction is superior to the low temperature LENR reaction type
> and
> >> has
> >> > in effect tossed the low temperature technology in the trash as
> >> > noncompetitive.
> >> >
> >> > The QuarkX technology is very difficult because it demands very high
> >> > temperature structural materials. This requires specialized expertise
> >> > in
> >> > material science and extensive testing to ensure the robustness of
> this
> >> > material under extreme stress over time.
> >> >
> >> > The plasma based LENR reaction is centered on the production of
> >> > nanoparticles produced by the condinsation of metal vapor. Polaritons
> >> > naturally form on those nanoparticles that convert the spin of
> infrared
> >> > photons into powerful magnetic fields.
> >> >
> >> > By the way, I believe that the SunCell is using the plasma phase LENR
> >> > reaction. Like Rossi, R. Mills has stumbled on this reaction type and
> >> > is
> >> > attempting to bring it to market.
> >> >
> >> > I am saying that if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a
> >> nail.
> >> > If Mills encounters unexplained plasma based high energy reaction, it
> >> > is
> >> > human nature to reform and modify your existing thinking to
> incorporate
> >> > that reaction into those existing theories. Mills would naturally
> >> > resist
> >> > rejecting all his ideas formed over a lifetime and that are central to
> >> the
> >> > survival of his company whether they are valid or not to impartially
> >> > include a these new 

[Vo]:Does that mean we are seeing Mushingons/Tachyons or 'Charge Clusters'

[Axil Axil]

https://steemit.com/photography/@mfmp/ecco-radiographic-plate-developing-and-feature-identification

MFMP has visualized the LENR active polariton activated nano and
miroparticles that are the active agents in the LENR reaction. These
particles that are usually found in LENR reaction ash  are nano and micro
wire that have a cover of surface plasmon polaritons that are activated
into magnon soliton Bose condinsate by the Kerr effect. As MFMP has done,
it is possible using film to characterize these particles in terms of their
mass, energy content,   magnetic field character and  polarity(monopole)
and strength, as well as entanglement,

These particles could be comprised of ultra dense water (water crystals) as
in cavitation

Ultra dense hydrogen (deutrium) and lithium as in the Pd/D reaction

Silver nanowire as in the SunCell

or copper metallic nanowire as in the Proton 21 reaction.


See

http://restframe.com/mm/

for the highly advanced analysis of Keith Fredericks

RE: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Axil—

With the loss of a magneticfield the resonant conditions providing coupling 
of a nucleus  to the lattice electrons are eliminated; however, with the 
transient magnetic field short lived resonances are established that allow 
nuclear isomers or other unstable isotopes that decay or react with production 
of gammas or the 0.51 Mev EM radiation associated with the reaction of a 
electron and a positron.

Bob Cook

From: Axil Axil
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:45 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

Gamma's were also seen at reaction shutdown. What produces those gammas?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
I believe gammas are generated and then absorbed into the BEC, sliced
and diced into X rays.   That is, the vast majority of the gammas.
Some poke their heads through, especially in the initial phase where
it's an endothermic reaction starting the whole thing.   That's why
Celani saw Gammas at Rossi's demo, but only at the outset.

On 7/11/17, Axil Axil > wrote:
> Gamma rays are not generated in LENR reactions because the reaction energy
> is completely drained by the entanglement of the SPP BEC that is in place
> on the nanoparticles that produce the LENR reaction.
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> >
> wrote:
>
>> I have thought for a long time that there have been multiple LENR
>> reactions.   When you let loose a gamma inside a lattice and it hits
>> those other nickel (or palladium) atoms, it generates fission
>> reactions.   The ash analysis results have been all over the board.
>>
>> On 7/11/17, Axil Axil > wrote:
>> > I now believe that there is multiple LENR reaction types. For example,
>> > Rossi has developed a low temperature LENR reaction and has tested it
>> > in
>> > the yearlong IH test. The mechanism for this type of LENR reaction is
>> based
>> > on magnetic flux line focusing by the hexagonal based lattice of mica.
>> This
>> > reaction mechanism follows along the lines that was shown to be
>> > effective
>> > in the Golden Balls of D. Cravins where the magnetic flux lines of a
>> SmCo5
>> > magnet is focused by the hexagonal based lattice of graphite.
>> >
>> > See
>> >
>> > https://www.nature.com/articles/srep16184
>> >
>> > This article explains how magnetism can be focused into skyrmion
>> > magnetic
>> > textures involving topological, non-topological and instanton droplets
>> > driven by spin-transfer torque in materials with perpendicular magnetic
>> > anisotropy and Dzyaloshinskii–Moriya Interaction
>> >
>> > During the year long test, Rossi has stumbled on the plasma phase LENR
>> > reaction and has built the QuarkX reactor to take advantage of this
>> > reaction type. Rossi has come to believe correctly that the plasma type
>> > LENR reaction is superior to the low temperature LENR reaction type and
>> has
>> > in effect tossed the low temperature technology in the trash as
>> > noncompetitive.
>> >
>> > The QuarkX technology is very difficult because it demands very high
>> > temperature structural materials. This requires specialized expertise
>> > in
>> > material science and extensive testing to ensure the robustness of this
>> > material under extreme stress over time.
>> >
>> > The plasma based LENR reaction is centered on the production of
>> > nanoparticles produced by the condinsation of metal vapor. Polaritons
>> > naturally form on those nanoparticles that convert the spin of infrared
>> > photons into powerful magnetic fields.
>> >
>> > By the way, I believe that the SunCell is using the plasma phase LENR
>> > reaction. Like Rossi, R. Mills has stumbled on this reaction type and
>> > is
>> > attempting to bring it to market.
>> >
>> > I am saying that if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a
>> nail.
>> > If Mills encounters unexplained plasma based high energy reaction, it
>> > is
>> > human nature to reform and modify your existing thinking to incorporate
>> > that reaction into those existing theories. Mills would naturally
>> > resist
>> > rejecting all his ideas formed over a lifetime and that are central to
>> the
>> > survival of his company whether they are valid or not to impartially
>> > include a these new experimental results.
>> >
>> > On top of that, it is in the commercial interest of Mill’s company to
>> avoid
>> > any nuclear based theory that would restrict his ability to patent his
>> > experimental results or taint his work with the onus associated with
>> LENR.
>> >
>> > To top things off, sooner or later, someone will test the plasma type
>> LENR
>> > reaction for muon generation, and when the government finds out that
>> muons
>> > are being produced in massive amounts, then the government will take
>> > 

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Axil Axil]

Axil Axil 
Jul 7 (9 days ago)
to vortex-l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWHPW3-hlUw

This video describes the search for bremsstrahlung radiation as seen in the
MFMP experiment as predicted to occur at the onset of HOLE
superconductivity.

The bremsstrahlung radiation  is produced when electrons are expelled at
near the speed of light from the center of the Polariton BEC by the
meissner effect when the "Hole superconductivity" first begins and again
when the Hole superconductivity is terminated at the end of the LENR
reaction, electrons move back into the positive core of the SPP BEC when
superconductivity and the meissner effect ends.

See

https://jorge.physics.ucsd.edu/hole.html

The sound is bad in the video, but the experimental search is pictured at
6:00 into the video.

IMHO, the  bremsstrahlung radiation seen in the MFMP experiment shows the
onset of HOLE SUPERCONDUCTIVITY in the Polaritons produced to generate the
LENR reaction.

Some background
Author:

  Hamilton Carter
(Texas A\ Univ)

Do superconductors emit x-rays when they quench? Do holes lead double
lives, undressing and pairing up as electrons when it gets cold? Can the
London penetration depth be explained by holes lowering their kinetic
energy and getting... well... fat? An experimental search is underway for
the x-ray radiation predicted by Hirsch's hole theory of superconductivity.
Originally proffered 25 years ago as a model for high temperature
superconductors,, the theory as it now stands applies to all
superconducting materials. The basics of the hole theory of
superconductivity will be presented, followed by a review of our
experiment's design. You'll come away feeling more comfortable with
covalent bonding, hopping amplitudes, Hamiltonians and coherent states.
You'll learn about pulsed magnetic fields and x-ray detection techniques.
You'll be the envy of your friends at parties as you describe both
superconductor theory and cutting edge experiments on the frontier of
modern physics with confidence and aplomb.

On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:17 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Axil--
>
>
>
> Regarding the observation of gammas at the beginning and end of LENR power
> output, it may be that the controlling magnetic field, B.  passes through
> intensities that allow nuclear transitions without coupling to the
> electronic orbital kinetic angular momentum energy and a change of nuclear
> potential energy to lattice kinetic energy.
>
>
>
> One would expect to see a change in the isotopic composition of the fuel
> compared to the composition resulting from LENR without gammas.
>
>
>
> In addition the gammas may heat the nano-particles of fuel sufficiently to
> quickly change resonances that allowed the reaction producing the gammas
> and favoring the coupling in the coherent nano-particle system to the
> lattice electrons.
>
>
>
> IMHO the function of transient SPP BEC’s  would not be 100% effective at
> shielding gammas routinely produced by a LENR nuclear isotopic transition.
>
>
>
>
> The production of neutral muons or other neutral subatomic particles
> without gammas may be an unrealized problem of some LENR reactions,
> however.  I consider energetic neutrons, if produced, would be readily
> observed.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
> *From: *Axil Axil 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:45 PM
> *To: *vortex-l 
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled
>
>
>
> Gamma's were also seen at reaction shutdown. What produces those gammas?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
>
> I believe gammas are generated and then absorbed into the BEC, sliced
> and diced into X rays.   That is, the vast majority of the gammas.
> Some poke their heads through, especially in the initial phase where
> it's an endothermic reaction starting the whole thing.   That's why
> Celani saw Gammas at Rossi's demo, but only at the outset.
>
>
> On 7/11/17, Axil Axil  wrote:
> > Gamma rays are not generated in LENR reactions because the reaction
> energy
> > is completely drained by the entanglement of the SPP BEC that is in place
> > on the nanoparticles that produce the LENR reaction.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have thought for a long time that there have been multiple LENR
> >> reactions.   When you let loose a gamma inside a lattice and it hits
> >> those other nickel (or palladium) atoms, it generates fission
> >> reactions.   The ash analysis results have been all over the board.
> >>
> >> On 7/11/17, Axil Axil  wrote:
> >> > I now believe that there is multiple LENR reaction types. For example,
> >> > Rossi has developed a low temperature LENR reaction and has tested it
> >> > in
> >> > the yearlong IH test. The mechanism for this type of LENR reaction is
> >> based
> >> > on magnetic flux line 

Re: [Vo]:Allais Effect

[Terry Blanton]

Is anyone on the list aware of an experiment using ring laser gyroscopes
positioned in different planes (horizontal, vertical, angled, etc) to
detect the Allais Anomaly?

One of my crackpot buddies thinks the Sagnac effect will be affected by the
dynamic gravity anomaly.  How does the magnitude of the gravity anomaly of
Allais compare to those detected recently by LIGO?  Do you think a full
eclipse over LIGO would be detectable?

RE: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Axil--

Regarding the observation of gammas at the beginning and end of LENR power 
output, it may be that the controlling magnetic field, B.  passes through 
intensities that allow nuclear transitions without coupling to the electronic 
orbital kinetic angular momentum energy and a change of nuclear potential 
energy to lattice kinetic energy.

One would expect to see a change in the isotopic composition of the fuel 
compared to the composition resulting from LENR without gammas.

In addition the gammas may heat the nano-particles of fuel sufficiently to 
quickly change resonances that allowed the reaction producing the gammas and 
favoring the coupling in the coherent nano-particle system to the lattice 
electrons.

IMHO the function of transient SPP BEC’s  would not be 100% effective at 
shielding gammas routinely produced by a LENR nuclear isotopic transition.

The production of neutral muons or other neutral subatomic particles without 
gammas may be an unrealized problem of some LENR reactions, however.  I 
consider energetic neutrons, if produced, would be readily observed.

Bob Cook
From: Axil Axil
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:45 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

Gamma's were also seen at reaction shutdown. What produces those gammas?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
I believe gammas are generated and then absorbed into the BEC, sliced
and diced into X rays.   That is, the vast majority of the gammas.
Some poke their heads through, especially in the initial phase where
it's an endothermic reaction starting the whole thing.   That's why
Celani saw Gammas at Rossi's demo, but only at the outset.

On 7/11/17, Axil Axil > wrote:
> Gamma rays are not generated in LENR reactions because the reaction energy
> is completely drained by the entanglement of the SPP BEC that is in place
> on the nanoparticles that produce the LENR reaction.
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> >
> wrote:
>
>> I have thought for a long time that there have been multiple LENR
>> reactions.   When you let loose a gamma inside a lattice and it hits
>> those other nickel (or palladium) atoms, it generates fission
>> reactions.   The ash analysis results have been all over the board.
>>
>> On 7/11/17, Axil Axil > wrote:
>> > I now believe that there is multiple LENR reaction types. For example,
>> > Rossi has developed a low temperature LENR reaction and has tested it
>> > in
>> > the yearlong IH test. The mechanism for this type of LENR reaction is
>> based
>> > on magnetic flux line focusing by the hexagonal based lattice of mica.
>> This
>> > reaction mechanism follows along the lines that was shown to be
>> > effective
>> > in the Golden Balls of D. Cravins where the magnetic flux lines of a
>> SmCo5
>> > magnet is focused by the hexagonal based lattice of graphite.
>> >
>> > See
>> >
>> > https://www.nature.com/articles/srep16184
>> >
>> > This article explains how magnetism can be focused into skyrmion
>> > magnetic
>> > textures involving topological, non-topological and instanton droplets
>> > driven by spin-transfer torque in materials with perpendicular magnetic
>> > anisotropy and Dzyaloshinskii–Moriya Interaction
>> >
>> > During the year long test, Rossi has stumbled on the plasma phase LENR
>> > reaction and has built the QuarkX reactor to take advantage of this
>> > reaction type. Rossi has come to believe correctly that the plasma type
>> > LENR reaction is superior to the low temperature LENR reaction type and
>> has
>> > in effect tossed the low temperature technology in the trash as
>> > noncompetitive.
>> >
>> > The QuarkX technology is very difficult because it demands very high
>> > temperature structural materials. This requires specialized expertise
>> > in
>> > material science and extensive testing to ensure the robustness of this
>> > material under extreme stress over time.
>> >
>> > The plasma based LENR reaction is centered on the production of
>> > nanoparticles produced by the condinsation of metal vapor. Polaritons
>> > naturally form on those nanoparticles that convert the spin of infrared
>> > photons into powerful magnetic fields.
>> >
>> > By the way, I believe that the SunCell is using the plasma phase LENR
>> > reaction. Like Rossi, R. Mills has stumbled on this reaction type and
>> > is
>> > attempting to bring it to market.
>> >
>> > I am saying that if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a
>> nail.
>> > If Mills encounters unexplained plasma based high energy reaction, it
>> > is
>> > human nature to reform and modify your existing thinking to incorporate
>> > that reaction into those existing theories. Mills would naturally
>> > resist
>> > rejecting all his 

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

[Kevin O'Malley]

On 7/16/17, Alain Sepeda  wrote:

>
> multiple independent instruments are also more convincing than just two.
 ***That is why I criticized MFMP's dropping this line of inquiry due
to personal circumstances, not due to lack of promise of earlier
results.

It turns out that Matthieu had all the equipment.  Right now MFMP is
raising money for REAL ESTATE to help out Suhas/ECCO.   Just imagine
where we would be in results if MFMP had raised $182k to purchase lab
equipment to continue this gamma ray inquiry in Matthieu's absence.

Re: [Vo]:MFMP activities

[Alain Sepeda]

more generally correlation of complex signal mean uch more than just
signal, one shot corelation, of simple/regular signal corrélation.

correlating two ramp, two exponential is nearly meaningless (this is
however often published in newspapers - some correlated increase of organic
food production and autism declaration in US).

correlating oscillations is better, but it can just be loosely synchonizeed
signal and random luck.

best is output correlated to an irregular, random output.

correlation however can be real but linked to a classical phenomenon. eg
heat out from heat in may be related but just normally. so correlation
between things that should not, even through artifact, is meaningful.

He4/Heat correlation is thousands time more convincing than calorimetry
alone or mass spectrometry alone.

multiple independent instruments are also more convincing than just two.

2017-07-16 2:34 GMT+02:00 Jed Rothwell :

> Kevin O'Malley  wrote:
>
>>
>
>> There is no known chemical interaction that leads to
>> hydrogen/deuterium generating gammas when mixed with nickel/palladium.
>>   Even if there is no excess heat, it MUST be a nuclear phenomena.
>>
>
> People familiar these detectors tell me that a one-off event that does not
> repeat is probably an instrument glitch, or an extraterrestrial event. We
> can't say it MUST be a nuclear phenomenon until we see it happen often,
> with multiple instruments and things like TOF verification.
>
> - Jed
>
>