I think replicators should read carefully this section of what chuck says:
Just so know how machined the coins into electrodes; I just used a hacksaw
and made two cuts into the coin to make a tab, and then bent it up with needle
nose pliers. The tab was about 1/8 thick and stood about 1/2 tall. The end
result was a little C-shaped electrode.
I would think that cutting and bending might create numerous NAE sites. This
step may be very important.
- Original Message -
From: David Roberson lt;dlrober...@aol.comgt;
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:36:13 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck
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I read that carbon rods could be obtained at craft stores so I might take a
trip to find one if my stainless is a problem. Did someone mention that iron
might be a catalyst in Rossi's device? I guess I might get some for this
experiment by default.
Originally, I was using a second nickel for the electrode attached to the power
supply positive terminal. The problem I encountered with this choice was that
apparently copper oxide or nickel oxide forms very quickly in this arrangement
which greatly increased the resistance of the system. I had to clean off the
green mess quite often to keep the current at a modest level. Unfortunately, I
did not have any carbon around to try, so I used the best alternative which was
stainless. I have noticed that it is tarnishing now after several hours of
operation and, as you suggest, it might ruin the plating of the test nickel.
I bought some borax at the grocery for an electrolyte and today discovered that
people are using the sodium carbonate that you list below to repair rust damage
to metals. It is not clear why one would be better than the other since both
negative ions are non reactive. The original discussion about this experiment
pointed to the use of borax. I will use whichever is agreed upon.
I had a mischievous thought of heating the hydrogen loaded nickel in some
manner to see if that started a reaction. I am afraid to work with hydrogen
tanks due to fire and explosion hazard so a Rossi type device is off limits,
but nothing would prevent me from just heating the nickel in air. I am not
concerned that a major explosion is possible since I would be surprised if any
extra heat is released at all!
This set of experiments is mainly being conducted for me to learn about
electrolysis and electroplating. Any LENR activity would be welcome but not
expected with my crude setup.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Sep 23, 2012 2:08 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck
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On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I would be concerned about the cost of platinum. Stainless steel might work
since it is un reactive.
The problem of cost is an important one, since we're talking about a tabletop
experiment.
The danger of falling back upon unreactive materials such as gold, carbon and
stainless steel is that they are only relatively inert under chemical
reactions. Under proton or deuteron capture, for example, they are quite
reactive:
- 197Au + p - 194Pt + α + 8.4 MeV
- 197Au + D - 199Hg + 11 MeV
- 12C + D - 13C + p + 2.7 MeV
- 52Cr + p - 53Mn + 6.6 MeV (chromium is an ingredient in stainless steel)
I appreciate that there is no consensus on this list that proton and deuteron
capture are taking place, and beyond that, there is incredulity. But people
such as Ed Storms take the possibility seriously, and the numbers are very
suggestive when one looks at the transmutation results in the aggregate. So if
it might be the case that these processes are occurring, this dimension can be
included in a search for suitable controls as well as possibly being used for
further investigation. Not taking it into account could lead to frustrated
attempts to find a blank -- and it occurs to me that this itself is an
interesting detail.
Taking a second look at carbon, I see that it is inert under proton capture, so
graphite might actually be a good choice or hydrogen-1 after all (but not
hydrogen-2). But at the moment I'm looking at data for an experiment in which
palladium was used with hydrogen-1; along the lines I've been suggesting in
previous posts, this would be a good combination for a control run, since
proton capture is not energetically favorable in palladium. This turns out to
be too simplistic an approach, however; in the case of this experiment, the
choice of electrolyte, Na2CO3, appears to have been important, and isotope
shifts in the vicinity of sodium were observed, in addition to many others. For
similar reasons, the material of the container could be important -- teflon
(with carbon and fluorine in it), pyrex (with boron) and stainless steel, for
example, might all be susceptible to whatever processes are
