[Vo]: Cheap hydrogen claim

2014-03-15 Thread a.ashfield

Solar Hydrogen Trends claim:

Input 500 watts produces 2,797 cu.ft. H2 per hour, equivalent to 221.5 
KWhr at a cost of $1.80


http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/


Re: [Vo]: Cheap hydrogen claim

2014-03-15 Thread Bob Higgins
If true, that is one heck of a claim - they would be claiming an over-unity
COP of 443 (44300%).

I checked the math.  2797 SCF of H2 - IS - equivalent to 221.5 kWH.

What I think is probably wrong is the 500W input - it must be a typo.  They
must mean 500kW input.  This would put their COP to be 44.3% which is still
good and is not an over-unity claim.


On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:

  Solar Hydrogen Trends claim:

 Input 500 watts produces 2,797 cu.ft. H2 per hour, equivalent to 221.5
 KWhr at a cost of $1.80

 http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/



Re: [Vo]: Cheap hydrogen claim

2014-03-15 Thread a.ashfield

Bob,
No typo.  Apparently the figures have been replicated by an independent 
company

See http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/SHT_performance%20_test.pdf

Adrian Ashfield


Re: [Vo]: Cheap hydrogen claim

2014-03-15 Thread Nigel Dyer

There is a performance report:

http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/SHT_performance%20_test.pdf

I would suggest that the current figure is likely to be right, in that 
100kA at 4V would require some interesting electrical enigineering, so 
was the voltage actually nearer 5kV rather than 5V.  Again however 5kV 
at 100A requires some interesting electrical engineering.   A picture of 
the setup would clarify


Nigel



On 15/03/2014 16:22, Bob Higgins wrote:
If true, that is one heck of a claim - they would be claiming an 
over-unity COP of 443 (44300%).


I checked the math.  2797 SCF of H2 - IS - equivalent to 221.5 kWH.

What I think is probably wrong is the 500W input - it must be a typo. 
 They must mean 500kW input.  This would put their COP to be 44.3% 
which is still good and is not an over-unity claim.



On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net 
mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:


Solar Hydrogen Trends claim:

Input 500 watts produces 2,797 cu.ft. H2 per hour, equivalent to
221.5 KWhr at a cost of $1.80

http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/






RE: [Vo]: Cheap hydrogen claim

2014-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
Guys,

 

Impressive, but suspicious..

 

Given the name of the company - could it be 500 watts electric and 100,000
watts of solar ?

 

Or is this some type of LENR ?

 

 

From: Nigel Dyer 

 

There is a performance report:

http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/SHT_performance%20_test.pdf

I would suggest that the current figure is likely to be right, in that 100kA
at 4V would require some interesting electrical enigineering, so was the
voltage actually nearer 5kV rather than 5V.  Again however 5kV at 100A
requires some interesting electrical engineering.   A picture of the setup
would clarify

Bob Higgins wrote:

If true, that is one heck of a claim - they would be claiming an over-unity
COP of 443 (44300%).   

 

I checked the math.  2797 SCF of H2 - IS - equivalent to 221.5 kWH. 

 

What I think is probably wrong is the 500W input - it must be a typo.  They
must mean 500kW input.  This would put their COP to be 44.3% which is still
good and is not an over-unity claim.

 

Adrian Ashfield wrote:

Solar Hydrogen Trends claim:

Input 500 watts produces 2,797 cu.ft. H2 per hour, equivalent to 221.5 KWhr
at a cost of $1.80

http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/