Re: [Vo]:FYI: unusual and extremely short-lived species of hydrogen
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: > Not that I disagree, but there are other more mundane possibilities for a Hydrogen excess, such as storage in e.g. carbon nano-tubes, or Bucky-balls, etc. that may form naturally under some conditions. Other substances that act as a Hydrogen storage medium may also play a role. (Clathrates for Hydrogen?) Yes, and there are many other compounds with hydrinos. There is one liquid - Ar(H2)2 which stores 9.2 % hydrogen but requires unrealistically high pressure. It has probably been studied, since argon is a Mills catalyst. With hydrogen as a self-catalyst, that one could suddenly form hydrinos in a chain reaction... hey - is that what happened over Tunguska ?
Re: [Vo]:FYI: unusual and extremely short-lived species of hydrogen
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 9 Jun 2017 11:53:52 -0700: Hi, [snip] >http://thunder-energies.com/index.php/ct-menu-item-3 [snip] If you take away the cap and glasses from this photo, then he looks like an older version of Mills. ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:FYI: unusual and extremely short-lived species of hydrogen
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 9 Jun 2017 06:53:06 -0700: Hi, Not that I disagree, but there are other more mundane possibilities for a Hydrogen excess, such as storage in e.g. carbon nano-tubes, or Bucky-balls, etc. that may form naturally under some conditions. Other substances that act as a Hydrogen storage medium may also play a role. (Clathrates for Hydrogen?) [snip] >There is a more interesting stable candidate for a species with a mass >of 5 amu - it is molecular H5 consisting of two molecules of H2 bound to >a core of UDH (ultra dense hydrogen). This molecule could explain many >well-known astrological mysteries such as the large amount of hydrogen >on certain comets and the Jovion moons. > >Molecular H5 would consist of 5 protons in a compact spatial >tetrahedron: having been formed from two molecules of normal hydrogen >(H2) magnetically bound to one reduced orbital atom of hydrogen (aka the >UDH, DDL, pychno ro hydrino). This dense hydrogen allotrope UDH would >have a very large magnetic self-field in the range of kiloT (thousands >of Tesla) and that field provides long-lived stability, especially in a >liquid phase for an allotrope. > >If this putative molecule were stable, it would be liquid at mid-low >temperatures but much higher than expected; and it should show up in >cosmology in cold gas-giants like Jupiter. It could be a liquid at up to >200K. We might find it in the polar regions of Mars. There are some >tantalizing clues such as "lakes of liquid methane" on the Jovian moons >which seem to contain way too much hydrogen a temperature way above the >boiling point. In fact they appears to be mostly hydrogen. Comet tails >contain way too much hydrogen as well, since the comet is not cold >enough to retain LH. > >The tetrahedron is a favored platonic solid. A compact atom of HDH at >the core of 4 protons in a tetrahedron would be a candidate for >explaining anomalies involving the appearance of liquid hydrogen at >temperatures where hydrogen cannot be liquid. > > > Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:FYI: unusual and extremely short-lived species of hydrogen
One more note on the possibility of a stable molecular allotrope of hydrogen of mass-5 which can be formed from dense hydrogen plus regular hydrogen. The species has been observed, and the evidence is fairly strong Many have mixed opinions on the work of Dr Ruggero Santilli - the controversial discoverer of what he calls "magnegas" which is similar to Browns gas (made by electrolysis of water) ... who has a reputation for suing everyone who disagrees with him (including Infinite Energy magazine). Here is a reference to his work. http://www.i-b-r.org/docs/FuelsMagnecularf.pdf. Anyway, an independent lab tested the output of one of his devices, which was hooked up directly to a mass spectrometer and found that in addition to the expected products (H2 and O2) there was a very strong signal from a gas of 5 amu. This looks like good evidence. Santilli claims the gas is much more energetic than H2. His new company is Thunder Energies and has real products (mostly optics) http://thunder-energies.com/index.php/ct-menu-item-3 This press release should appeal to Widom-Larsen followers http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2017/05/30/134/0/en/Scientists-Confirm-the-Synthesis-of-Neutrons-from-a-Hydrogen-Gas-by-Thunder-Energies-Corporation.html --- There is a more interesting stable candidate for a species with a mass of 5 amu - it is molecular H5 consisting of two molecules of H2 bound to a core of UDH (ultra dense hydrogen). This molecule could explain many well-known cosmological mysteries such as the large amount of hydrogen on certain comets and the Jovion moons which are not cold enough for liquid hydrogen. Molecular H5 would consist of 5 protons in a compact spatial tetrahedron: having been formed from two molecules of normal hydrogen (H2) magnetically bound to one reduced orbital atom of hydrogen (aka the UDH, DDL, pychno ro hydrino). The dense hydrogen species would have a very large magnetic self-field in the range of kiloT (thousands of Tesla) and that field provides long-lived stability, especially in a liquid phase. If this putative molecule were stable, it would be liquid at mid-low temperatures but much higher than expected - up to 200K. We might find it in the polar regions of Mars. There are tantalizing clues such as "lakes of liquid methane" on the Jovian moons which seem to contain way too much hydrogen a temperature far above the boiling point. In fact the "lakes" appear to be mostly hydrogen. Comet tails contain way too much hydrogen as well, since the comet is not cold enough to retain LH.
Re: [Vo]:FYI: unusual and extremely short-lived species of hydrogen
MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: > > “Researchers study unusual and extremely short-lived species of hydrogen” https://phys.org/news/2017-06-unusual-extremely-short-lived-species-hydrogen.html Interesting find. To make the 5H atom, the researchers used a reaction that removed a single proton from a 6He nuclei produced by the National Superconducting Cyclotron Facility. The 6He (atomic helium-6) target loses a single proton and the remaining proton retains 4 neutrons. The result is short-lived 5H (atomic hydrogen-5). This isotope is not new and has been made from tritium before this paper. There is a more interesting stable candidate for a species with a mass of 5 amu - it is molecular H5 consisting of two molecules of H2 bound to a core of UDH (ultra dense hydrogen). This molecule could explain many well-known astrological mysteries such as the large amount of hydrogen on certain comets and the Jovion moons. Molecular H5 would consist of 5 protons in a compact spatial tetrahedron: having been formed from two molecules of normal hydrogen (H2) magnetically bound to one reduced orbital atom of hydrogen (aka the UDH, DDL, pychno ro hydrino). This dense hydrogen allotrope UDH would have a very large magnetic self-field in the range of kiloT (thousands of Tesla) and that field provides long-lived stability, especially in a liquid phase for an allotrope. If this putative molecule were stable, it would be liquid at mid-low temperatures but much higher than expected; and it should show up in cosmology in cold gas-giants like Jupiter. It could be a liquid at up to 200K. We might find it in the polar regions of Mars. There are some tantalizing clues such as "lakes of liquid methane" on the Jovian moons which seem to contain way too much hydrogen a temperature way above the boiling point. In fact they appears to be mostly hydrogen. Comet tails contain way too much hydrogen as well, since the comet is not cold enough to retain LH. The tetrahedron is a favored platonic solid. A compact atom of HDH at the core of 4 protons in a tetrahedron would be a candidate for explaining anomalies involving the appearance of liquid hydrogen at temperatures where hydrogen cannot be liquid.
[Vo]:FYI: unusual and extremely short-lived species of hydrogen
"Researchers study unusual and extremely short-lived species of hydrogen" https://phys.org/news/2017-06-unusual-extremely-short-lived-species-hydrogen .html -mark
