[Vo]:Re: Nano-thermite aka Superthermite

2008-09-09 Thread Jones Beene
A hydrino connection ?

One more thought on a hypothetical active mechanism in superthermite - and 
other reactions which can produce more energy than what should be possible in 
the chemical reaction of valence electrons. 

This has been called a supra-chemical reaction, since the normal definition 
of chemical reaction generally only goes to the valence electrons. There are 
a few exceptions in normal chemistry but none where the energy involved cannot 
be recovered from the reaction itself. The exceptions: for which there is some 
tenuous proof in the literature are found in Mills CQM and in the reports about 
superthermite (and possibly a few other ballotechnics ).

An oxygen molecule usually takes electrons rather than gives them, but it can 
provide a net enthalpy of a multiple of that of the 13.6 eV (1/2-Hartree) 
potential energy of the hydrogen atom by two alternative reactions (if not 
three). 

The bond energy of the oxygen molecule is 5.165 eV, and the first through the 
third ionization energies (IP) of an oxygen atom are 13.62 eV, 35.12 eV, and 
54.9 eV, respectively. Iron, as it so-happens has almost the identical value of 
54.8 eV enthalpy with its IP4. Arguably, iron oxide can release two oxygen 
ions, somewhat resonantly with oxygen and with this particular value, which is 
also seen in Helium - and in the process, EUV photons are released.

Since hydrogen, helium, iron and oxygen the four most abundant atoms around, 
all share the double Hartree mass-energy level somewhere, there must be 
something going one resonantly, and possibly semi-coherently which operates 
like a chain reaction in the explosiveness of superthermite.

In the Mills version of suprachemistry - oxygen as a catalysts can shrink 
[ground state hydrogen] more than one level at a time but O++ is normally rare 
since it is formed at very high temperatures or extreme conditions . However, 
with superthermite - the same positive ion O++ must be the active instrument of 
energy release, since there is no hydrogen (so far as we know). But even in 
Mills CQM when oxygen is active, if I am not mistaken, - it is the O++ catalyst 
and not the hydrino, which emits the excess energy. 

ERGO one might ask this pregnant question: 

... in the superthermite reaction, where aluminum appears to steal two oxygen 
ions from iron oxide - and the result is an apparent 2xHartree energy gain - is 
this some kind of redundant ground state but hydrino-less reaction which 
involves oxygen, not hydrogen, facilitating the exchange by appearing to have a 
reduced orbital ?

...and/or is the Dirac sea providing virtual protons as some kind of an 
intermediary to facilitate the transfer?

Most bizarre.


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- Original Message 


The pool of tears  wonderland-style:

Ok the following may be venturing way down into the rabbitt hole of Alice, so 
it is worth prefeacing these remarks as being generally unrelated to the prior 
discussion about thermite - such as used in demolition.

Question to the Cheshire Cat: What do the most lethal weapons in the US arsena 
have in common - i.e. such as cave-buster bomb which has up to 10 time the 
detonation force per pound as conventional bombs (such
as the older daisy cutter or MOAB mother of all bombs)?

Answer from a cat-like smile: Doh! from the subject line, you should be able to 
guess it.

Basic Thermite is comprised of aluminum powder and iron oxide powder and does 
not explode on its own. So far so good.

When the powders are ground to “ultra-fine grain” in a vacuum chamber and are 
less
than 100 nm in diameter, then nano-thermite is formed. When they get down to 10 
nm, quien sabe? Even 100 nm changes the situation qualitatively and 
quantitatively and the result is not just an incendiary – it is a weapons grade 
explosive. 

This nanomaterial may well be one of the so-called ballotechnics, such as the 
infamous red mercury was once thought to be. In fact there are a few who will 
say that this is, and always was, the true identity of that strange material 
... 

... if it were not fully composed of red herrings, that is ;-)

In one of Dr Steven Jones' papers he says: Researchers can greatly increase 
the power of weapons by adding
materials known as superthermites that combine nanometals such as
nanoaluminum with metal oxides such as iron oxide, according to Steven
Son, a project leader in the Explosives Science and Technology group at
Los Alamos. 

The advantage (of using nanometals) is in how fast you can
get their energy out, Son says. Son says that the chemical reactions
of superthermites are faster and therefore release greater amounts of
energy more rapidly... Son, who has been working on nanoenergetics for
more than three years, says that scientists can engineer nanoaluminum
powders with different particle sizes to vary the energy release rates.
This enables the material to be used in many applications, including
underwater explosive devices… However, 

Re: [Vo]:Re: Nano-thermite aka Superthermite

2008-09-09 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:51:39 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
But even in Mills CQM when oxygen is active, if I am not mistaken, - it is the 
O++ catalyst and not the hydrino, which emits the excess energy. 

In CQM, the O++ first absorbs 54 eV from the Hydrino, becoming O+++ in the
process. Then later, the O+++ recaptures the lost electron to become O++ again,
reemitting the 54 eV that it absorbed from the Hydrino. 
Usually it doesn't stop there, but also grabs as many other loose electrons as
it can get it's paws on, trying to become O--.
In the mean time, having relinquished 54 eV to O++, the Hydrino has become
unstable and promptly drops to a stable level dumping even more energy in the
process.


ERGO one might ask this pregnant question: 

... in the superthermite reaction, where aluminum appears to steal two 
oxygen ions from iron oxide - and the result is an apparent 2xHartree energy 
gain - is this some kind of redundant ground state but hydrino-less reaction 
which involves oxygen, not hydrogen, facilitating the exchange by appearing to 
have a reduced orbital ?

I have wondered about He iso H undergoing shrinkage, and have previously also
suggested that perhaps virtually any nucleus could steal a shrunken electron
from a Hydrino. However I doubt that there is really anything like this going on
in super thermite. From the very little that I have read, I get the impression
that it just reacts faster than normal because the particles are (much) smaller.
See your own quote:-
The advantage (of using nanometals) is in how fast you can
get their energy out, Son says. Son says that the chemical reactions
of superthermites are faster and therefore release greater amounts of
energy more rapidly... Son, who has been working on nanoenergetics for
more than three years, says that scientists can engineer nanoaluminum
powders with different particle sizes to vary the energy release rates.
This enables the material to be used in many applications, including
underwater explosive devices… However, researchers aren't permitted to
discuss what practical military applications may come from this
research. 

Dr Son has now apparently been silenced by the powers that be, and has no 
further comment.

Not surprising.
[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]