Re: [Vo]:Recombination
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: John said that the original Papp engine produced boron as an ash product and as a consequence, demonstrated relatively poor reaction efficiency. Who observed this boron ash and where has it been corroborated?
[Vo]:Recombination
Recombination What John Rohner said in an interview the other day complicates the nuclear reactions going on in LENR. John said that the original Papp engine produced boron as an ash product and as a consequence, demonstrated relatively poor reaction efficiency. Because of his efforts to optimize the reaction in his engine, he gets far better efficiency than Papp did: more than two times better. John said that like Papp, the Helium in his noble gas mix was fusing in his engine, but an inverse fission process is clearing the boron ash back to helium so that only energy is produced. If this complicated nuclear cycle is in fact occurring, it will be very hard to characterize the nuclear processes at work in these LENR reactors. Cheers:Axil
Re: [Vo]:Recombination
Referenced interview: http://larryseyer.com/media/podcasts/tmdd/TMDD-2012-08-10.MP3 Cheers: Axil On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Recombination What John Rohner said in an interview the other day complicates the nuclear reactions going on in LENR. John said that the original Papp engine produced boron as an ash product and as a consequence, demonstrated relatively poor reaction efficiency. Because of his efforts to optimize the reaction in his engine, he gets far better efficiency than Papp did: more than two times better. John said that like Papp, the Helium in his noble gas mix was fusing in his engine, but an inverse fission process is clearing the boron ash back to helium so that only energy is produced. If this complicated nuclear cycle is in fact occurring, it will be very hard to characterize the nuclear processes at work in these LENR reactors. Cheers:Axil
Re: [Vo]:Recombination
Axil, DGT has claimed no less than 10-11 elements created that would typically be created from fission or fusion. My theory is that the collapsed matter(gremlin) is indiscriminate, it can rip protons and/or electrons from nearby atoms due to the immense local quantum gravity and evaporate them back out Again, the typical radiation energy levels normally given off by a true fission or fusion process is reduced by having to overcome the immense localized gravity of the singularity. I believe the energy particles need to be removed from the Papp engine using the coil so that the singularities do not reach thermodynamic equilibrium and reduced net power output. I believe once created, the gremlin sits within the voids and cracks in the loaded Celini and DGT lattices in thermal equilibrium until you feed them some more energy by rattling the lattice or pumping it with electrical charge. You need to keep the gremlins cold and hungry if you want to produce power (Papp) and feed them alot of nearby matter if you want to transmute elements (DGT) On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Recombination What John Rohner said in an interview the other day complicates the nuclear reactions going on in LENR. John said that the original Papp engine produced boron as an ash product and as a consequence, demonstrated relatively poor reaction efficiency. Because of his efforts to optimize the reaction in his engine, he gets far better efficiency than Papp did: more than two times better. John said that like Papp, the Helium in his noble gas mix was fusing in his engine, but an inverse fission process is clearing the boron ash back to helium so that only energy is produced. If this complicated nuclear cycle is in fact occurring, it will be very hard to characterize the nuclear processes at work in these LENR reactors. Cheers:Axil
Re: [Vo]:Recombination
Chem Eng, Axil somehow my limits are reached. Do'nt know who from the italian faction it was (Piantelli?) who found lots of transmutations bydifferential analysis (pre-after of the SAME sample), then there is LeClair/nanospire, then DGTG, who claim similar things. This is like opening a can of worms, and needs a different theory altogether, right? Letsye term it the 'gremlin-theory' ala ChemEng. Peter somehow seems to have adopted this via DGTG, who claim a three-stage LENR-process which is not easily subsumed to a single theory. I somehow sympathisze with that, because my understanding of over 600degC LENR has trespassed its limits. Now the gremlins take over as a generalized model for understanding. No wonder Papp raises from his grave, who eventually is compliant with the gremlin-theory, which I do not understand. Count me confused. See the problem? Wave WL and variants goodbye, everything is open. Or is it? I am not ready for that. This belongs into the extra-extraordinary claims department. Fleischmann nearly being rehabilitated after 20 years. Now that! Does LENR have to go back to the drawing board, or does it drown in another round of obscurity? Maybe highly respected Abd Ul could comment on that As said: Count me confused, Guenter Von: Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 21:35 Dienstag, 14.August 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Recombination Axil, DGT has claimed no less than 10-11 elements created that would typically be created from fission or fusion. My theory is that the collapsed matter(gremlin) is indiscriminate, it can rip protons and/or electrons from nearby atoms due to the immense local quantum gravity and evaporate them back out Again, the typical radiation energy levels normally given off by a true fission or fusion process is reduced by having to overcome the immense localized gravity of the singularity. I believe the energy particles need to be removed from the Papp engine using the coil so that the singularities do not reach thermodynamic equilibrium and reduced net power output. I believe once created, the gremlin sits within the voids and cracks in the loaded Celini and DGT lattices in thermal equilibrium until you feed them some more energy by rattling the lattice or pumping it with electrical charge. You need to keep the gremlins cold and hungry if you want to produce power (Papp) and feed them alot of nearby matter if you want to transmute elements (DGT) On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Recombination What John Rohner said in an interview the other day complicates the nuclear reactions going on in LENR. John said that the original Papp engine produced boron as an ash product and as a consequence, demonstrated relatively poor reaction efficiency. Because of his efforts to optimize the reaction in his engine, he gets far better efficiency than Papp did: more than two times better. John said that like Papp, the Helium in his noble gas mix was fusing in his engine, but an inverse fission process is clearing the boron ash back to helium so that only energy is produced. If this complicated nuclear cycle is in fact occurring, it will be very hard to characterize the nuclear processes at work in these LENR reactors. Cheers: Axil
