Re: [Vo]:Report From an Attendee of the Blacklight Power Demonstration

2014-01-30 Thread Nigel Dyer
Perhaps BLP had the same problem with explosions and decided that, to 
use the phrase that our marketing guys love, This is not a problem, 
this is a feature, and worked out what they need to do to make this 
happen every time, and their product morphed into what they have now 
demonstrated.   The patent is then a confused mix of the two systems, 
although the primary claims (1,9,39 and 88) concentrate on the new 
configuration


Nigel
On 30/01/2014 03:43, Terry Blanton wrote:

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:27 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:


I gather the BLP reaction, as demoed, appears to be quite explosive.

Seems that someone else said that they had several of their LENR cells
explode before they learned how to control the reaction.  Hard to
believe that there is something entirely different going on in both
cells.






RE: [Vo]:Report From an Attendee of the Blacklight Power Demonstration

2014-01-30 Thread Jones Beene
 

 

From: Nigel Dyer 

 

Perhaps BLP had the same problem with explosions and decided that, to use
the phrase that our marketing guys love, This is not a problem, this is a
feature

 

That is a good point. Rather than try to stay on edge of stability before
runaway, one could indeed try to harness successive runaways. This fraught
with risks of course.

 

And it is somewhat reminiscent of two bizarre programs which were taken all
the way to the design stages in the US nuclear program - nuclear pulse
propulsion for rockets, and exploding reactors using small nukes
sequentially exploded in a reinforced cavern for eventual steam generation.
(see: Exploding Reactors for Power, Edward F. Marwick, 1973 Google Books)


 

 

 

 



Re: [Vo]:Report From an Attendee of the Blacklight Power Demonstration

2014-01-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:


  And it is somewhat reminiscent of two bizarre programs which were taken
 all the way to the design stages in the US nuclear program - nuclear pulse
 propulsion for rockets, and exploding reactors using small nukes
 sequentially exploded in a reinforced cavern for eventual steam generation.


Certainly explains hearing loss.  :-)


[Vo]:Report From an Attendee of the Blacklight Power Demonstration

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
This link is in another thread here, Blacklight:

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/01/report-from-the-blacklight-power-demonstration/

I thought I would point this out for people not following that thread
closely. The description of the demonstration is vague. It lacks technical
details. I hope they publish a video, as they say they intend to do.

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:Report From an Attendee of the Blacklight Power Demonstration

2014-01-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Jed:

 

 This link is in another thread here, Blacklight: 

 


http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/01/report-from-the-blacklight-power-demonstra
tion/

 

 I thought I would point this out for people not following that thread
closely.

 The description of the demonstration is vague. It lacks technical details.

 I hope they publish a video, as they say they intend to do.

 

Comments that piqued my interest from the e-catworld article:

 

 I did not know most of the attendees, but there were representatives

 from chemical and engineering firms present as well as OEMs and major

 investment banks.  ... I think the presentation was geared more towards

 developing interest among potential licensees and partners rather than

 media. Media will come in time.

 

That's what I would have expected. The demo was certainly not geared for any
kind of general public consumption. What would be the point. Based on how
the continuing CF/LENR saga has been publicly treated over the past two
decades why would Randy even care about courting the general public at this
stage of the game. Most in the peanut gallery are in no position to lend any
kind of serious funding. BLP is in the precarious position where if they are
going to take the next big step they need to secure far more commitment,
both in the financial and in the RD field, than what they have been able to
collect over the past two decades. It's pretty obvious (at least to me) that
the primary purpose of Randy's demo was to sell the integrity of the
mysterious BLP reaction, singular and primitive it may be, to a carefully
selected group of investors and entrepreneurs with deep pockets. These would
be investors willing to take risks and buck the status quo in the hope of
reaping vast financial rewards.

 

 I tend to believe people who actually view the experiments and study the
results

 rather than simply post negative comments on the Internet. The validator 

 [Rowan University] unequivocally confirmed the reported results from the
newly

 developed SF-CIHT cell and stated it was a game changer. 

 

If I am to believe that Rowan University knows how to make accurate
measurements, and that is the assumption I will go with for now, then the
demo was a strategically sound move. Time to find serious investors who want
to build a contraption - and make an obscene pile of money.

 

 I thought one interesting moment was when the validator was asked whether
he

 believed in hydrinos. His answer was something to the effect that this
wasn't

 a matter of belief, but about experimental results and that he was
confident

 in the results.

 

If you can turn the contraption on and off at will, without blowing people
up in the process, that's all that matters. A nice pat theory that everyone
can agree on comes later. I hope the time has finally ripened for BLP to get
the assistance they need to construct a self-running prototype that can be
turned on, and off without killing anyone in the process. 

 

I gather the BLP reaction, as demoed, appears to be quite explosive. History
may be repeating itself. The explosive reaction reminds me of what it must
have been like trying to design the first ICE. Sure, everybody knows that
gasoline explodes... but design a contraption that runs continuously by
creating multiple explosions through the containment of a dangerously
volatile chemical reaction that must be expelled then quickly replenished
with the purpose of turning a crankshaft to make useful work. Harrumph!
Never been done, and never will be done! It's an engineering impossibility!
You're a fool to even try!

 

And so. with that said, I shall keep my optimism carefully reigned in
because this is not the first time Randy has made promises of this kind. I
remain a spectator of the peanut gallery. The floor is littered with
discarded husks.

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

svjart.OrionWorks.com

www.zazzle.com/orionworks

tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/



Re: [Vo]:Report From an Attendee of the Blacklight Power Demonstration

2014-01-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:27 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

 I gather the BLP reaction, as demoed, appears to be quite explosive.

Seems that someone else said that they had several of their LENR cells
explode before they learned how to control the reaction.  Hard to
believe that there is something entirely different going on in both
cells.