Re: [Vo]:Re: Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary
Mark I do not understand in your new spread sheet whose data are displayed in each table. In addition where did the large increase of O come from. It looks like oxidation was a big reaction based on the data in your spread sheet . This did not show up in the Russian experimental data, to my knowledge. Bob Cook - Original Message - From: Mark Jurich To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary FYI: Since I didn’t want to taint the Parkhomov Spreadsheet I made without additions, I created a new one and included Wikipedia and Oct ‘14 Lugano Analysis: http://tinyurl.com/nz4gjdh Mark Jurich From: Mark Jurich Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:51 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re: Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary FYI: Typo Fixed (30.1 – 30.9 in Natural State 65Cu Cell) From: Mark Jurich Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:28 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary FYI: Here is a link to the latest updated Elemental Isotope Analysis in Excel XLSX SpreadSheet (Sheets 1 2) Format: http://tinyurl.com/lcnudcv Mark Jurich From: Mark Jurich Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 12:02 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary As many of you know, some preliminary Elemental Analysis (SIMS?) and ICP-MS of Parkhomov Ash/Fuel were released during ICCF-19 in Padua, Italy. At the FaceBook MFMP Site, some pictures of the analysis were taken and posted: http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/04/21/mfmp-publishes-parkhomovs-fuel-analysis-video-of-parkhomov-discussion/ From the Elemental Analysis, it roughly looks like Ni is lost with a gain in Cu, but we all know how careful one has to be analyzing this. Some of the Nickel might have coated something other than the “ash.” Due to some issue, the Li Analysis is incomplete and will most likely be resolved soon. I believe Parkhomov has 2 more Fuel/Ash Analysis being undertaken at this time, also (EDX and ?). An incomplete picture of the ICP-MS Analysis roughly shows the following (amongst other things if we assume Rows 1 2 are Ash Analysis and Row 3 is the Fuel Analysis): https://www.facebook.com/MartinFleischmannMemorialProject/photos/p.959743037389729/959743037389729 6Li – 7Li 58Ni – 64Ni Obviously, it’s not as simple as this, but I wanted throw a “bone” out there for us to chew on. My guess is that Row 1 is a Best Run, Row 2 is a Pretty Good Run and Row 3 is the Starting Fuel (since Li, Ni Cu are at almost Natural Abundances). Tomorrow morning I will talk to a Russian American and try to decipher the Cyrillic, since no one at the MFMP Site has done it yet... 6Li is depleted by half, with the difference showing up as 7Li. 64Ni shows a gain of about 5 with the loss roughly showing up in 58Ni. 65Cu Values ? seem to be cut off in the picture, and hopefully we will get this data soon. What do YOU think is happening? As soon as I get a chance, I will post further links from the MFMP and E-Cat World Sites for the Internet-Challenged amongst us. Mark Jurich
Re: [Vo]:Re: Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary
FYI: Since I didn’t want to taint the Parkhomov Spreadsheet I made without additions, I created a new one and included Wikipedia and Oct ‘14 Lugano Analysis: http://tinyurl.com/nz4gjdh Mark Jurich From: Mark Jurich Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:51 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re: Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary FYI: Typo Fixed (30.1 – 30.9 in Natural State 65Cu Cell) From: Mark Jurich Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:28 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary FYI: Here is a link to the latest updated Elemental Isotope Analysis in Excel XLSX SpreadSheet (Sheets 1 2) Format: http://tinyurl.com/lcnudcv Mark Jurich From: Mark Jurich Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 12:02 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary As many of you know, some preliminary Elemental Analysis (SIMS?) and ICP-MS of Parkhomov Ash/Fuel were released during ICCF-19 in Padua, Italy. At the FaceBook MFMP Site, some pictures of the analysis were taken and posted: http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/04/21/mfmp-publishes-parkhomovs-fuel-analysis-video-of-parkhomov-discussion/ From the Elemental Analysis, it roughly looks like Ni is lost with a gain in Cu, but we all know how careful one has to be analyzing this. Some of the Nickel might have coated something other than the “ash.” Due to some issue, the Li Analysis is incomplete and will most likely be resolved soon. I believe Parkhomov has 2 more Fuel/Ash Analysis being undertaken at this time, also (EDX and ?). An incomplete picture of the ICP-MS Analysis roughly shows the following (amongst other things if we assume Rows 1 2 are Ash Analysis and Row 3 is the Fuel Analysis): https://www.facebook.com/MartinFleischmannMemorialProject/photos/p.959743037389729/959743037389729 6Li – 7Li 58Ni – 64Ni Obviously, it’s not as simple as this, but I wanted throw a “bone” out there for us to chew on. My guess is that Row 1 is a Best Run, Row 2 is a Pretty Good Run and Row 3 is the Starting Fuel (since Li, Ni Cu are at almost Natural Abundances). Tomorrow morning I will talk to a Russian American and try to decipher the Cyrillic, since no one at the MFMP Site has done it yet... 6Li is depleted by half, with the difference showing up as 7Li. 64Ni shows a gain of about 5 with the loss roughly showing up in 58Ni. 65Cu Values ? seem to be cut off in the picture, and hopefully we will get this data soon. What do YOU think is happening? As soon as I get a chance, I will post further links from the MFMP and E-Cat World Sites for the Internet-Challenged amongst us. Mark Jurich
Re: [Vo]:Re: Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary
Mark- For some reason I did not download the whole spread sheet with the Lugano data. I now have it. It would appear the generation of Li-7 from Li-6 or Li-6 from Li-7 are reversed in the Lugano and Parkhomov experiments. Am I missing something? Bob - Original Message - From: Mark Jurich To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary FYI: Since I didn’t want to taint the Parkhomov Spreadsheet I made without additions, I created a new one and included Wikipedia and Oct ‘14 Lugano Analysis: http://tinyurl.com/nz4gjdh Mark Jurich From: Mark Jurich Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:51 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re: Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary FYI: Typo Fixed (30.1 – 30.9 in Natural State 65Cu Cell) From: Mark Jurich Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:28 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary FYI: Here is a link to the latest updated Elemental Isotope Analysis in Excel XLSX SpreadSheet (Sheets 1 2) Format: http://tinyurl.com/lcnudcv Mark Jurich From: Mark Jurich Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 12:02 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary As many of you know, some preliminary Elemental Analysis (SIMS?) and ICP-MS of Parkhomov Ash/Fuel were released during ICCF-19 in Padua, Italy. At the FaceBook MFMP Site, some pictures of the analysis were taken and posted: http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/04/21/mfmp-publishes-parkhomovs-fuel-analysis-video-of-parkhomov-discussion/ From the Elemental Analysis, it roughly looks like Ni is lost with a gain in Cu, but we all know how careful one has to be analyzing this. Some of the Nickel might have coated something other than the “ash.” Due to some issue, the Li Analysis is incomplete and will most likely be resolved soon. I believe Parkhomov has 2 more Fuel/Ash Analysis being undertaken at this time, also (EDX and ?). An incomplete picture of the ICP-MS Analysis roughly shows the following (amongst other things if we assume Rows 1 2 are Ash Analysis and Row 3 is the Fuel Analysis): https://www.facebook.com/MartinFleischmannMemorialProject/photos/p.959743037389729/959743037389729 6Li – 7Li 58Ni – 64Ni Obviously, it’s not as simple as this, but I wanted throw a “bone” out there for us to chew on. My guess is that Row 1 is a Best Run, Row 2 is a Pretty Good Run and Row 3 is the Starting Fuel (since Li, Ni Cu are at almost Natural Abundances). Tomorrow morning I will talk to a Russian American and try to decipher the Cyrillic, since no one at the MFMP Site has done it yet... 6Li is depleted by half, with the difference showing up as 7Li. 64Ni shows a gain of about 5 with the loss roughly showing up in 58Ni. 65Cu Values ? seem to be cut off in the picture, and hopefully we will get this data soon. What do YOU think is happening? As soon as I get a chance, I will post further links from the MFMP and E-Cat World Sites for the Internet-Challenged amongst us. Mark Jurich
RE: [Vo]:Re: Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary
Hello Mark, If we consider that Sample1 is fuel and Sample2 is ash, then there is a clue that 64Ni could be converted to 65Cu in the Parkhomov reactor! Let me show the maths: If other Ni isotopes don't react then the quantities of Ni for each isotope stay the same except for 64Ni: 58Ni: 64.03 60Ni: 26.34 61Ni: 1.22 62Ni: 3.99 64Ni: 2.85 Total = 98.43 (1.57 is assumed to be converted into 65Cu) And in percentage, it gives then: 58Ni: 65.05 60Ni: 26.76 61Ni: 1.24 62Ni: 4.05 Those values are in the range of the sample2 data for the Ni, except a slight deviation for 60Ni . more 60Ni found in the ash than calculated. In the Lugano analysis, the 64Ni has disappeared. All converted in 65Cu? Arnaud _ From: Mark Jurich [mailto:jur...@hotmail.com] Sent: jeudi 23 avril 2015 11:51 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re: Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary FYI: Typo Fixed (30.1 - 30.9 in Natural State 65Cu Cell) From: Mark Jurich mailto:jur...@hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:28 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary FYI: Here is a link to the latest updated Elemental Isotope Analysis in Excel XLSX SpreadSheet (Sheets 1 2) Format: http://tinyurl.com/lcnudcv Mark Jurich From: Mark Jurich mailto:jur...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 12:02 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Parkhomov Ash Analysis Discussion - Preliminary As many of you know, some preliminary Elemental Analysis (SIMS?) and ICP-MS of Parkhomov Ash/Fuel were released during ICCF-19 in Padua, Italy. At the FaceBook MFMP Site, some pictures of the analysis were taken and posted: http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/04/21/mfmp-publishes-parkhomovs-fuel-analysis -video-of-parkhomov-discussion/ From the Elemental Analysis, it roughly looks like Ni is lost with a gain in Cu, but we all know how careful one has to be analyzing this. Some of the Nickel might have coated something other than the ash. Due to some issue, the Li Analysis is incomplete and will most likely be resolved soon. I believe Parkhomov has 2 more Fuel/Ash Analysis being undertaken at this time, also (EDX and ?). An incomplete picture of the ICP-MS Analysis roughly shows the following (amongst other things if we assume Rows 1 2 are Ash Analysis and Row 3 is the Fuel Analysis): https://www.facebook.com/MartinFleischmannMemorialProject/photos/p.959743037 389729/959743037389729 6Li - 7Li 58Ni - 64Ni Obviously, it's not as simple as this, but I wanted throw a bone out there for us to chew on. My guess is that Row 1 is a Best Run, Row 2 is a Pretty Good Run and Row 3 is the Starting Fuel (since Li, Ni Cu are at almost Natural Abundances). Tomorrow morning I will talk to a Russian American and try to decipher the Cyrillic, since no one at the MFMP Site has done it yet... 6Li is depleted by half, with the difference showing up as 7Li. 64Ni shows a gain of about 5 with the loss roughly showing up in 58Ni. 65Cu Values ? seem to be cut off in the picture, and hopefully we will get this data soon. What do YOU think is happening? As soon as I get a chance, I will post further links from the MFMP and E-Cat World Sites for the Internet-Challenged amongst us. Mark Jurich
