Re: [Vo]:Subject: off topic android

[Frank Znidarsic]

Steven Vincent Johnson



Steve,


 I am getting way to ahead of myself and way too off topic.

 


Once I get this simple MIDI input app working I can use a cheep MIDI controller 
for 
other purposes; like to provide hardwired inputs.  Android is good at sending
text messages, taking pictures and sending them, and sending emails.


I can bring a few terminals out from a midi controller and use them as hard 
wired inputs.
The app would read the bit on a MIDI OTG Cable input or bluetooth midi input 
and take an action.


These actions include sending a user defined email, text message, or taking a 
picture and sending it.
 These kind of actions are pretty straight forward on Android and there are 
lots of apps that do just that.
None, however, react to a hard wired input.


To keep this thread on topic, it could send the user defined text message,  
"Your cold fusion cell is in a thermal runaway".  Jed would like to get such a 
message.


Google please get your driver MidiDriver working.  


Frank Znidarsic

RE: [Vo]:Subject: off topic android

[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

Frank,

 

I wouldn't get too concerned about OT issues clogging up the Vort Collective. 
As the presidential elections draw closer, based on the previous election 
cycles, one can imagine what will happen within the continuum. It will return 
to normalcy afterwards.

 

I suspect the younger generation will be interested in your android app once 
it's more fully developed. If it can control MIDI devices, you are likely to 
have some interest there. OTOH, I suspect your app is not likely to pique the 
interest of the older generation, like me. A tablet/cell phone display window 
is just too small for 60+ year old eyes! However, there are always exceptions 
to the rule. Incidentally, my wife and I just purchased two new Samsung Android 
cell phones. Looks like we are joining the android crowd despite the fact that 
my wife uses the IPad 2 tablet. I personally use a Samsung Galaxy note 12 Inch 
tablet. We can make the letters & numbers larger on our androids.

 

I mentioned my desktop Sonar Producer software application because I enjoy 
creating full-fledged compositions using all the s/w tools I can get my hands 
on, assuming I can afford them. I need all the desktop real estate I can get my 
hands on.

 

I'm pretty comfortable using Microsoft's Visual Studio Professional edition. 
I'm using the VS package in my Kepler research efforts. I'm fluent in both VB 
and C#. I could probably handle C++ if forced to, but I'd rather not. Never 
learned JAVA. I programmed in C back in the 1980s when I was a troglodyte 
computer programmer for Space Astronomy Lab, Madison, Wisconsin. I wrote GSE 
(Ground Support Equipment) software. Programmed primarily in C and FORTH. FORTH 
is an interesting RPN (Reverse Polish Notation) programming language. Quite 
primitive, but deceptively powerful once you get a handle of it.

 

Indeed, would suspect Jed would be interested in a thread discussing a CF 
thermal runway situation. Wouldn't we all. Wait a minute... didn't that happen 
to Rossi a couple of times when he first stumbled across the mysterious "Rossi 
Effect"?

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks

RE: [Vo]:Subject: off topic android

[Robert Ellefson]

 

 

From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 
9:20 AM



FORTH is an interesting RPN (Reverse Polish Notation) programming language. 
Quite primitive, but deceptively powerful once you get a handle of it.

 

I already liked RPN from using and programming my HP 11c calculator, but when I 
started working on hardware design at Sun in the early 90’s I really fell in 
love with Forth, since their boot monitor was implemented with it.  For 
hardware debug, this was great, because I could write all kinds of hardware 
diagnostics and stimulus loops with very little effort, and I didn’t need to 
boot the OS to get a lot of lab work done.  Working on hardware without a 
decent, programmable boot monitor has never been the same for me since.

 

-Bob

 

Re: [Vo]:Subject: off topic android

[Eric Walker]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Robert Ellefson 
wrote:

I already liked RPN from using and programming my HP 11c calculator ...
>

I learned to program on an HP calculator as well.  It was great fun, and I
enjoyed the Reverse Polish Notation.  While you're in the zone, focusing on
a problem, you can do some cool stuff with it.  But in retrospect I suspect
that if you stepped away from the program for two weeks and then came back
to it, it might as well have been written in binary.

Eric

RE: [Vo]:Subject: off topic android

[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

Frank,

 

I like the fact that you added note letters at both ends of the app.  The video 
was however difficult to watch since I presume you used your cell phone to 
video it holding it in the traditional vertical position. When I watched it 
everything was sideways. I had to tilt my head. That was a pain in the neck! 

 

It looks like you are designing the app to use traditional musical score. I 
have more to say on that matter...

 

I use a sophisticated MIDI music sequencer created by Cakewalk. It's called 
Sonar X3 - Producer edition. It's on par with Pro Tools except that it's much 
cheaper to purchase. It only runs on Windows platforms - no apple or android. 
I've created a lot of computer compositions with the application going all the 
way back to the 1990s. (As you wisely pointed out, it's important to take some 
breaks from CF work.) FWIW, I never compose music on my PC using traditional 
musical score notation. I tried to use traditional musical notation at first, 
but found it to be extremely limiting since you need to be able to place some 
notes out-of-sequence in order to generate a more human touch to one's music. 
This is especially the case if one is improvising or playing jazz. I don't know 
anybody who uses traditional musical notation when composing on a PC monitor 
screen. This is especially the case if one is using MIDI. With a piano role 
configuration you can still add note letters at both ends. You can also grey 
the horizontal "black" minor keys bands. The major horizontal bands can remain 
white. This is useful to help distinguish the horizontal minor and major notes 
from each other on the monitor screen.

 

When composing I use three HD monitor screens, and yet, I still don't have enuf 
desktop space. I'm considering getting a ultra-high 4K monitor. That would be 
the equivalent of 4 HD monitors. 4K HD monitor prices are gradually coming 
down. 

 

I cannot imagine myself composing or playing music on an iPad or Android 
device. NTL, I know there are younger tykes who do just that. Guess I'm too 
much of an old fart at 63 years old. I need glasses too.

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks