Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and Government Taxation
- Original Nachricht Von: Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 26.10.2011 23:07 Betreff: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and Government Taxation Greetings Vortex, IF Rossi is successful , as I expect, I wonder what will the world governments will do on taxation? Governments cannot resist. Will almost free energy be killed by taxation. I think the fuel cannot been taxed, because the amounts are so small, commonly available and impossible to control. It doesnt produce CO2, so this cannot been taxed. It does however produce waste heat and this /should/ be taxed. Already now biological damage was done to rivers when cole and nuclear power plants heated them too much. The amount of hot water and steam released into environment must be taxed. Now what will happen if anybody can produce unlimited amounts of waste heat? Any kind of antisocial egoistic capitalistic abuse will happen. Best, Peter
Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and Government Taxation
That might very well be the way big oil and other giant energy companies keep a major portion of the energy market once the energy catalyzer type products start damaging them. On the flip side, the push for climate change solutions may force the issue in the other direction. It depends upon who speaks the loudest. Dave -Original Message- From: Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:07 pm Subject: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and Government Taxation Greetings Vortex, IF Rossi is successful , as I expect, I wonder what will the world governments will do on taxation? Governments cannot resist. Will almost free energy be killed by taxation. Ron Kita, Chiralex
Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and Government Taxation
DGT speaks on this in their forum: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=359 (Google translate) The fuel tax would be feasible if there was some form of combustion in the core Hyperions. No burning does not take place for the production of heat energy. The taxation of raw materials used in the generated thermal energy (Hydrogen and Nickel) is technically impossible or too difficult due to other uses have specific information in many industrial applications or everyday use (coins, chemical industry, food industry etc. ). The Ministries of Development and Environment have yet to clarify whether it intends to recommend the imposition or not of Hyperion devices with a fixed fee or duty shall be deemed public revenue from such taxes will more than cover them than it would save the national economy from reduced greenhouse gas emissions, currently covered by the Kyoto treaty, to reduce costs for the purchase of hydrocarbons for the needs of the public, increased revenue for the nickel mining industry, the revenues generated from the export of products and expertise by our company and the benefits in competitiveness is expected to result from the gradual reduction of high energy costs to the products of domestic industry and agriculture. We believe that the intentions and taxation policies will be specified by the competent authorities immediately after the licensing of our products. Then it is possible and the public debate should take place within the statutory and public consultation, and in which we prepare to take an active part. Thank you Η φορολόγηση καυσίμου θα ήταν εφικτή αν υπήρχε κάποιας μορφής καύση στον πυρήνα των Hyperions. Καμία καύση όμως δεν λαμβάνει χώρα για την παραγωγή της παραγόμενης θερμικής ενέργειας. Η φορολόγηση των πρώτων υλών που χρησιμοποιούνται για την παραγόμενη θερμική ενέργεια (Υδρογόνο και Νικέλιο) είναι τεχνικά αδύνατη ή υπερβολικά δύσκολη λόγω και των άλλων χρήσεων που έχουν τα συγκεκριμένα στοιχεία σε πάρα πολλές βιομηχανικές εφαρμογές ή καθημερινές χρήσεις (νομίσματα, χημική βιομηχανία, βιομηχανία τροφίμων κλπ). Τα αρμόδια Υπουργεία Ανάπτυξης και Περιβάλλοντος δεν έχουν ακόμα διευκρινίσει αν προτίθεται να εισηγηθούν την φορολογήση ή όχι των συσκευών Hyperion με κάποιο πάγιο τέλος κατανάλωσης ή αν θα θεωρήθεί ότι τα δημόσια έσοδα από μια τέτοια φορολόγηση θα υπερ-καλυφτούν από όσα θα εξοικονομηθούν από την εθνική οικονομία από τις μειωμένες εκπομπές αερίων ρύπων, που σήμερα καλύπτονται από την συνθήκη του Κιότο, την μείωση των εξόδων για την αγορά υδρογοναθράκων για τις ανάγκες του δημοσίου, τα αυξημένα έσοδα για την εξορυκτική βιομηχανία Νικελίου, τα έσοδα που θα δημιουργηθούν από τις εξαγωγές προϊόντων και τεχνογνωσίας από την εταιρία μας καθώς και από τα οφέλη στην ανταγωνιστικότητα που αναμένεται να προκύψουν από την σταδιακή μεγάλη μείωση του ενεργειακού κόστους στα προϊόντα της εγχώριας βιομηχανίας και της γεωργίας. Εκτιμούμε ότι οι προθέσεις και οι πολιτικές φορολόγησης θα διευκρινιστούν από τις αρμόδιες αρχές αμέσως μετά από την αδειοδότηση των προϊόντων μας. Τότε θα ειναι εφικτός και ο δημόσος διάλογος που πρέπει να γίνει μέσα και από την θεσμοθετημένη δημόσια διαβούλευση, και στον οποίο έχουμε προετοιμαστεί για να λάβουμε ενεργό μέρος. Ευχαριστούμε
Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion and Government Taxation
Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote: Governments cannot resist. Will almost free energy be killed by taxation. I do not think the voters would allow that. As I have often pointed out, cold fusion will save the average US citizen roughly $2000 per year, $8000 for a family of four. That's just the start; later it will save even more, as goods and services everywhere become cheaper because of zero cost energy. $2000 per person is far larger than the biggest tax break in history. If special interests attempt to strangle cold fusion, or impose unreasonable taxes on it, I do not think the voters will stand by doing nothing in response. A political leader who would deny ordinary people $2000 per year would face unprecedented voter anger. That much money will sweep aside the most powerful special interests like cobwebs. The fossil fuel companies or Wall Street Titans may think they can stop this, but their opposition will not last more than a few months in the face of public anger. As long as it becomes generally known that cold fusion is real, that it is safe, and that it will save everyone huge sums of money, cold fusion will be unstoppable. I think it would be prudent to impose some taxes on cold fusion in some applications. For example, we need something to replace the gasoline tax, to pay for road construction. I think it would be prudent to charge automobile owners a tax based the odometer for total mileage per year. Another plan would be to install automatic electronic tolls on many roads. These were recently installed in Atlanta on I-85. So far they are extremely unpopular, but I believe they are the wave of the future, as I explained in my book. - Jed
