Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.
More here: http://radio.rcdc.it/wp-content/uploads/Focardi-english-version.pdf AG On 11/20/2011 10:48 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: In this TEDx event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=eGmgTo2Kw1U#t=564s Focardi says, that no neutrons where observed. Gamma radiation /not much above ambient level/ was observed. So it seems they added the lead shield only for security, but not for protection and thermalization. This conflicts with Rossis statement that gamma radiation is thermalized in the lead shield. Gamma rays not much above ambient level cannot contribute a measurable amount of thermal energy. Peter
Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.
Am 20.11.2011 15:23, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: More here: http://radio.rcdc.it/wp-content/uploads/Focardi-english-version.pdf Thank you. I have seen this before, but as an italian video with english subtitles on youtube. There is something that most coldfusion researchers say and Focardi says it too: He says, the hot fusion guys have not got /any/ results, but he has. I believe this is a false exaggeration and a physics professor should not say this. It is *untrue*. If any cold fusion reseacher could present the results of hot fusionists it would be a worldwide sensation. Of course the hot fusionists have /repeatable/ results in form of excess energy and nuclear reaction products and radiation. They get this for some millseconds at best, but/repeatable/. What they dont have, is a sustained reaction and they have not reached an energetic breakeven point. But if any CF researcher could present results as the hot fusionists already have, the reality of CF where already proven and accepted by mainstream. Peter On 11/20/2011 10:48 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: In this TEDx event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=eGmgTo2Kw1U#t=564s Focardi says, that no neutrons where observed. Gamma radiation /not much above ambient level/ was observed. So it seems they added the lead shield only for security, but not for protection and thermalization. This conflicts with Rossis statement that gamma radiation is thermalized in the lead shield. Gamma rays not much above ambient level cannot contribute a measurable amount of thermal energy. Peter
Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.
Am 20.11.2011 15:23, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: More here: http://radio.rcdc.it/wp-content/uploads/Focardi-english-version.pdf I am a little bit concerned about his mental fitness: [Female interviewer] And then how do you turn it off in hot weather? (Laughs) At some point in the past, as the device kept working on and on, I started thinking of a hammer. Let's hit it with a hammer! (Laughs). Well, what you do is you shut off ... the latest application has nickel inside it, then the hydrogen is supplied by electrolysis, so that ... because you cannot keep a hydrogen tank at home, of course, it's dangerous. [Contrary to common belief, hydrogen is not more dangerous than propangas. Both explode only when the right mixture is created. Normally hydrogen doesnt explode, but burn. Propan gas is more dangerous, because it is heavier than air. When there is a leak it can sink to the ground and can make dangerous concentrations. This doesnt happen with hydrogen. It is not toxic. It doesnt smell, this does indeed increase the danger. I got this information directly from the german hydrogen association] Instead we generated it from water by electrolysis. So, the device kept on working, and I thought to myself: I guess I'm going to have to use a hammer to stop it. Until one day Rossi told me I stopped it!. And how did you do that?. He said: I cut the power to the electrolysis, obviously. Right! All you have to do is run the electrolysis from a separate power source. You cut the power off there, and once the hydrogen is used up, the device stops by itself. Now why didnt he himself have the idea to switch the apparatus off? This is the most obvious idea to try! AG On 11/20/2011 10:48 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: In this TEDx event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=eGmgTo2Kw1U#t=564s Focardi says, that no neutrons where observed. Gamma radiation /not much above ambient level/ was observed. So it seems they added the lead shield only for security, but not for protection and thermalization. This conflicts with Rossis statement that gamma radiation is thermalized in the lead shield. Gamma rays not much above ambient level cannot contribute a measurable amount of thermal energy. Peter
Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.
You did read Focardi's comments on the radiation and the transmutations: /*So, if gamma [radiation] is emitted in one direction, the nickel goes in the opposite direction, like a cannon recoiling when it is fired. Therefore nickel releases energy into the medium. And so does gamma — I mean that gamma, when it interacts, gives off its energy. But nickel does this in its immediate surroundings, so it does not travel very far. Thus, the excess energy in the copper -- copper, I’m speaking about copper -- is distributed to the medium, and the temperature of the medium rises, and this facilitates further problems, to the point that, once the process is primed, it keeps on going in like manner, and what happens is that nickel is turned into copper. In fact, we analyzed the material after it had been working for a long time and found copper in it. We went to Padova, where they have the appropriate instrument: we found copper. Copper has two isotopes, the ratio between the two is not in the concentration found in Nature, so we are not dealing with junk copper which has been added, it was produced by us in this manner. Therefore, we produced energy, we produced copper, and got to...*/ As for repeatability, I have no problems with what Rossi and Focardi have achieved. If Rossi can get his reactor to fire up, he can teach me. I learn fast. This is almost like saying the small and hand made motors on the first Wright Flyer were not as reliable as a commercial steam engine of the same era. Of course not but what a difference when the Flyer's motors fired into life and the aircraft lifted off the ground. Never seen a steam engine do that. Then there is the scale of the development funds. Rossi claims to have spent over EUR1,000,000 of his own money on this so far. That would probably only pay for a good piss-up for the hot fusion guys and a new coat of paint. AG On 11/21/2011 1:24 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 20.11.2011 15:23, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: More here: http://radio.rcdc.it/wp-content/uploads/Focardi-english-version.pdf Thank you. I have seen this before, but as an italian video with english subtitles on youtube. There is something that most coldfusion researchers say and Focardi says it too: He says, the hot fusion guys have not got /any/ results, but he has. I believe this is a false exaggeration and a physics professor should not say this. It is *untrue*. If any cold fusion reseacher could present the results of hot fusionists it would be a worldwide sensation. Of course the hot fusionists have /repeatable/ results in form of excess energy and nuclear reaction products and radiation. They get this for some millseconds at best, but/repeatable/. What they dont have, is a sustained reaction and they have not reached an energetic breakeven point. But if any CF researcher could present results as the hot fusionists already have, the reality of CF where already proven and accepted by mainstream. Peter
Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.
Am 20.11.2011 16:43, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: You did read Focardi's comments on the radiation and the transmutations: We went to Padova, where they have the appropriate instrument: we found copper. Copper has two isotopes, the ratio between the two is not in the concentration found in Nature, so we are not dealing with junk copper which has been added, it was produced by us in this manner. Again neither Rossi, nor other researchers have confirmed this. Kullander Essen found natural isotope distributions. If the brass armatures are often opened and closed, this could be explained by metal dust blowed through the tubes and hoses. Peter
Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.
Do you understand Italian? I don't and take that translation as being generally representative of what Focardi said but not what he actually said or in the context he said it. I have a lot of Italian friends and they talk more with their hands, face and gestures than their voice. Especially if they are taking the piss out on you (having fun at your expense) as I expect Focardi was doing with the hammer comment. As for the hydrogen issue, I expect selling a home / commercial space heater than contains a bottle of pressurized Hydrogen might be a hard sell. Insurance companies would have to reassess their risk. I do agree with the Hydrogen association. Maybe a middle path is to use metal hydride storage? AG On 11/21/2011 1:59 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 20.11.2011 15:23, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: More here: http://radio.rcdc.it/wp-content/uploads/Focardi-english-version.pdf I am a little bit concerned about his mental fitness: [Female interviewer] And then how do you turn it off in hot weather? (Laughs) At some point in the past, as the device kept working on and on, I started thinking of a hammer. Let’s hit it with a hammer! (Laughs). Well, what you do is you shut off ... the latest application has nickel inside it, then the hydrogen is supplied by electrolysis, so that … because you cannot keep a hydrogen tank at home, of course, it’s dangerous. [Contrary to common belief, hydrogen is not more dangerous than propangas. Both explode only when the right mixture is created. Normally hydrogen doesnt explode, but burn. Propan gas is more dangerous, because it is heavier than air. When there is a leak it can sink to the ground and can make dangerous concentrations. This doesnt happen with hydrogen. It is not toxic. It doesnt smell, this does indeed increase the danger. I got this information directly from the german hydrogen association] Instead we generated it from water by electrolysis. So, the device kept on working, and I thought to myself: I guess I’m going to have to use a hammer to stop it. Until one day Rossi told me “I stopped it!”. And how did you do that?. He said: I cut the power to the electrolysis, obviously. Right! All you have to do is run the electrolysis from a separate power source. You cut the power off there, and once the hydrogen is used up, the device stops by itself. Now why didnt he himself have the idea to switch the apparatus off? This is the most obvious idea to try!
Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.
Other papers I have read mentioned non natural Cu isotope ratios. However you suggestion may be a valid pathway, unless the H2 line is filtered against such fine metal dust. AG On 11/21/2011 2:25 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 20.11.2011 16:43, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: You did read Focardi's comments on the radiation and the transmutations: We went to Padova, where they have the appropriate instrument: we found copper. Copper has two isotopes, the ratio between the two is not in the concentration found in Nature, so we are not dealing with junk copper which has been added, it was produced by us in this manner. Again neither Rossi, nor other researchers have confirmed this. Kullander Essen found natural isotope distributions. If the brass armatures are often opened and closed, this could be explained by metal dust blowed through the tubes and hoses. Peter
Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.
Am 20.11.2011 16:56, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: As for the hydrogen issue, I expect selling a home / commercial space heater than contains a bottle of pressurized Hydrogen might be a hard sell. Insurance companies would have to reassess their risk. I do agree with the Hydrogen association. Maybe a middle path is to use metal hydride storage? Rossi has said on his forum, this doesnt work, he had considered it. I dont understand, why. Why do they have so big hydrogen bottles if they use only small amounts? I know from purified gases, as used in semiconductor industry, these can only stored for 1/2 year in a bottle. After this the required purification cannot been guaranteed. He has somewhere made claims about the purification grade. I dont remember it. If it is a purity grade as used for semiconductors, then it is very expensive. Contrary to this, a metal hydride system does always deliver very pure hydrogen. Peter
Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.
In reply to Aussie Guy E-Cat's message of Mon, 21 Nov 2011 02:13:09 +1030: Hi, [snip] You did read Focardi's comments on the radiation and the transmutations: /*So, if gamma [radiation] is emitted in one direction, the nickel goes in the opposite direction, The momentum of the gamma ray is very low, and hence the energy transferred to the Ni is trivial by comparison to that of the gamma ray. If the reaction energy is in the form of gamma rays then these should be abundantly obvious. like a cannon recoiling when it is fired. Therefore nickel releases energy into the medium. And so does gamma I mean that gamma, when it interacts, gives off its energy. But nickel does this in its immediate surroundings, so it does not travel very far. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Contrary to this, a metal hydride system does always deliver very pure hydrogen. Do you mean a palladium filter? Something like a diffusion type ultra-pure electrolytic hydrogen generator made by Milton Roy Company (BARC)? - Jed
