Re: [Vo]:Massive free energy - in the hood
A UFO perse, as in an IFO and/or extremely advanced sophisticated
spacecraft from other older star-systems (that harbored a earthtype planet w/ a
civilization much like ours now {you know, humanosaurs} according to original
authentic genuine first-hand eyewitness accounts of well-grounded human
beings,,, do indeed emit some type of energy-field within it's immediate
proximity
underneath, of which, various types of sophisticated activities are
carried-out, including the levitation and controll of a small baseball-sized
sphere
of light and/or lazer beams. (I believe this was one of several craft
seen, up-close, by the belgium police,,, known as the Belgium Flap in the early
90's)
Another report was conveyed by military personel on a
military base (Rendelsham) in England back in late Dec of 1980., that
described a sequence of events involving an unknown Craft that made no sound or
exhibited no sign of propulsion. An officer and a severl men had approached
this craft hovering motionless 5 or so feet above the ground, and they said
it's surface was unlike anything they'd ever seen before. The Craft had
emitted some very small intense beams of light, and some basketball sized
sphere of light/energy, that burst into several smaller spheres, of which
rather
quickly burned-out or disappated.
The video clip from The Larry King Show shows a clip of a UFO that I
would bet is ball lightning.
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Re: [Vo]:Massive free energy - in the hood
Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 4:28 Samstag, 14.April 2012
Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Massive free energy - in the hood
From:Terry Blanton
Could it be that the crests (towers) are predominantly one polarity and the
troughs are the other?
If that is true, the massive energy is flowing through
the stay cables of the bridge. Notice the lights on the stay cables.
How could they survive?
Well, this definitely is a fascinating picture.
What I notice, is, that the more intense lightnings all seem to go to the right
hand side of the the big bridge structure.
Those which go to the lower structures are markedly less intense, and it is not
clear where - and when- they are going there.
Exposure time is probably a couple of seconds, so we do not know about the
sequence of events.
Also note how lightnings evolve:
a) There seems to be sort of a pathfinder ('stepped leader' ) from top to
bottom.
b) The real high-intensity develops, when the path to a low-impedance ground
is met by a 'positive streamer' from the bottom up.
This whole scenario, filmed with a high-speed camera would be a treasure of
insight for lighnting research.
Except that it is'nt.
See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLWIBrweSU8
Put that into the peer-reviewed Journal of Rarely Reproducible Events.
;)
If I put my Engineer hat on, plus adding some spice of curiosity, I would place
a 'field-mill' on top of the bridge-posts, and continuously measure the
E-field, which is a couple of 100V/m in a normal electrically active
atmosphere.
In a situation like that, where lightnings develop, I would expect that this
jumps to high kilovolts to megavolts/m,. (20kV/cm in normal atmosphere as a
critical limit, above that: sparking occurs).
The interesting aspect here is, that the socalled 'positive streamer' going up
seems to develop its own E-field,
which is higher than the average of the-in-between atmosphere, and therefore
develops a spark UP, which means, that the ground-up E-field has to be stronger
than the intermediate one.
Why is that?
One would have to measure that..
( I once indavertedly built such a device for high altitude atmospheric
research.
Do'nt know whether any aircraft has built-in E-field detectors, but ours,
designed to fly through all kinds of strange conditions, had one. But these
devices are mainly designed to detect dangerously high E-fields, which signal
conditions where it is not supposed to fly through, despite all the smooth talk
to the passengeres, that they fly in a Faraday-cage. Which somehow is correct,
but then not. In a case like that the aircraft would be loaded with
electrons/ions, where it is unclear, whether eg the communication systems would
still be working. Some dose of hopium seems to overcome the issue.)
Any big structure, which attracts a lot of lightnings, should be equipped with
such sensors.
Those do not exist.
Anyway.
Interesting.
Guenter
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hello, how about ball lightnings? First of all, are they real, i.e. has anyone or does anyone know someone who has seen such thing? If they are real, can they be explained in the terms of thermodynamics and (electro-) chemistry, or is it required to have cold fusion or other more exotic type of free energy? Largest observed ball lightnings are huge, about basketball sized, and can last for minutes. That high energy output is almost impossible to imagine from chemical origins. Could this lightning anomaly (neutrons and gammas etc.) explain that ball lightnings can exist and indeed they are the positive verification of some sort of exotic interaction? Could this be the reason, why they cannot be produced in the lab, that necessary conditions for exotic interaction are not sufficient? There are some free energy inventors who claim things about ball lightnings, but these are certainly not reliable evidence. On the contrary! ―Jouni On 14 Apr 2012, at 00:41, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Massive amount of free energy delivered yesterday, a few miles away. No doubt about it. This spike was about 4 gigajoules. There were others. A few gammas detected, but not enough to account for the net energy. It did set off the rad alarms at the port of Oakland. Yet, this is not exactly LENR, at least not in an obvious way. However, there is an LENR connection (to be continued). http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/13/article-2129246-1294184D05DC-2 23_964x694.jpg winmail.dat
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The video clip from The Larry King Show shows a clip of a UFO that I would bet is ball lightning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmh2NJxc3BQ Jouni Valkonen wrote: hello, how about ball lightnings? First of all, are they real, i.e. has anyone or does anyone know someone who has seen such thing? If they are real, can they be explained in the terms of thermodynamics and (electro-) chemistry, or is it required to have cold fusion or other more exotic type of free energy? Largest observed ball lightnings are huge, about basketball sized, and can last for minutes. That high energy output is almost impossible to imagine from chemical origins. Could this lightning anomaly (neutrons and gammas etc.) explain that ball lightnings can exist and indeed they are the positive verification of some sort of exotic interaction? Could this be the reason, why they cannot be produced in the lab, that necessary conditions for exotic interaction are not sufficient? There are some free energy inventors who claim things about ball lightnings, but these are certainly not reliable evidence. On the contrary! \Jouni On 14 Apr 2012, at 00:41, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Massive amount of free energy delivered yesterday, a few miles away. No doubt about it. This spike was about 4 gigajoules. There were others. A few gammas detected, but not enough to account for the net energy. It did set off the rad alarms at the port of Oakland. Yet, this is not exactly LENR, at least not in an obvious way. However, there is an LENR connection (to be continued). http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/13/article-2129246-1294184D05DC-2 23_964x694.jpg winmail.dat
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: It did set off the rad alarms at the port of Oakland. Do we know the nature of the detector alarms? What they were sensing? T
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In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:07:25 -0400: Hi, [snip] On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: It did set off the rad alarms at the port of Oakland. Do we know the nature of the detector alarms? What they were sensing? My guess would be the gamma rays generated by the lightning bolts. (Particles accelerated fast enough by high voltage and a high current squeezed by the magnetic field into a thin filament must produce some fusion gammas /or bremsstrahlung x-rays). T Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
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-Original Message- From: Robin in reply to Terry's message: Do we know the nature of the detector alarms? What they were sensing? RvS: My guess would be the gamma rays generated by the lightning bolts (Particles accelerated fast enough by high voltage and a high current squeezed by the magnetic field into a thin filament must produce some fusion gammas /or bremsstrahlung x-rays). Yes, this is probably the major component of radiation from lightning - but neutrons could travel far enough to be detected, as well. Deuterium is present in thunderstorms so neutrons are produced. On average at least 10^15 deuterium atoms per cubic centimeter are available in natural H2O. In lightning, billions of deuterons can potentially react though either fusion or the stripping reaction (Oppenheimer-Phillips). Neutrons from fusion have 2.45 MeV of mass-energy, but can only exist a few tenths of a second in air on average. Yet - that energy is immense and converted to net propagation distance (in a 'random walk') this is sufficient for neutrons to travel a distance of a few kilometers from the strike - and the port of Oakland physically adjoins the Bay Bridge, so many neutrons would be detected in rad meters designed for that purpose. attachment: winmail.dat
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Side Note: the pattern of lightning strikes in the image below is 'telling'.. The contact point s are non-random - they are either the top of the tower or the trough of the cable (electrically conductive). Is that meaningful? We know that lightning is not necessarily a positive (+) to ground polarity, and often has strong AC features - back and forth. instead of DC pulses. Could it be that the crests (towers) are predominantly one polarity and the troughs are the other? _ Massive amount of free energy delivered yesterday, a few miles away. No doubt about it. This spike was about 4 gigajoules. There were others. A few gammas detected, but not enough to account for the net energy. It did set off the rad alarms at the port of Oakland. Yet, this is not exactly LENR, at least not in an obvious way. However, there is an LENR connection (to be continued). http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/13/article-2129246-1294184D05DC-2 23_964x694.jpg attachment: winmail.dat
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Could it be that the crests (towers) are predominantly one polarity and the troughs are the other? If that is true, the massive energy is flowing through the stay cables of the bridge. Notice the lights on the stay cables. How could they survive? T
RE: [Vo]:Massive free energy - in the hood
From: Terry Blanton Could it be that the crests (towers) are predominantly one polarity and the troughs are the other? If that is true, the massive energy is flowing through the stay cables of the bridge. Notice the lights on the stay cables. How could they survive? Good point. Assuming the wiring for the lighting is fairly well insulated from direct shorting, which it would have to be in a salty environment - then we must ask how much cross inductance is possible? This gets back to amp-turns, no? There would be lots of amps but few turns in the current path of the lightning surge, so inductance to the lamps could be less than expected. The big support cable should heat up noticeably however. That in itself is worrisome, since this bridge is a senior citizen. It would be instructive to know if the lights experienced a strong surge in brightness. and how many, if any, failed. Most lighting of this kind in this area is sodium vapor - which can withstand massive surges, since there is no filament at all. San Francisco is one of those so-called liberal localities - where public light pollution is a real issue overriding lowest cost- and sodium lamps are favored for this - but I do not know for a fact that these are of that type (however they do look to be sodium yellow in the image) J.
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Good point. Assuming the wiring for the lighting is fairly well insulated from direct shorting, which it would have to be in a salty environment – then we must ask how much cross inductance is possible? Typically we test such insulation at 5000 V for leakage. But the potential of the strike would be much larger. IMO, all those strikes are simultaneous air to ground or vice versa with little potential between. The are indeed AC between the gound and air; but, less likely that there is a potential between the strikes. Or not. T
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: San Francisco is one of those so-called “liberal” localities - where public “light pollution” is a real issue overriding lowest cost- and sodium lamps are favored for this – but I do not know for a fact that these are of that type (however they do look to be “sodium yellow” in the image) You see different lighting used in different municipalities, of course. I recently went through San Jose for the first time during nighttime, and the lighting was very yellow and very weak (for others -- San Jose is down at the southern end of the San Francisco Bay area). It was disconcerting, and I didn't enjoy it at all. I was happy to be out of San Jose shortly afterwards. I hope this does not become the trend. Eric
RE: [Vo]:Massive free energy - in the hood
The late John Ott, author of Health and Light as well as a few later books, believed that the color of light emitted by Sodium lamps, as well as auto tail lights, reduced muscle strength by 25%, including the heart muscle. His research suggested that many night auto crashes were likely related to this little known possibility. Mark Mark Goldes Co-founder, Chava Energy CEO, Aesop Institute 301A North Main Street Sebastopol, CA 95472 www.chavaenergy.com www.aesopinstitute.org 707 861-9070 707 497-3551 fax From: Jones Beene [jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:28 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Massive free energy - in the hood From: Terry Blanton Could it be that the crests (towers) are predominantly one polarity and the troughs are the other? If that is true, the massive energy is flowing through the stay cables of the bridge. Notice the lights on the stay cables. How could they survive? Good point. Assuming the wiring for the lighting is fairly well insulated from direct shorting, which it would have to be in a salty environment – then we must ask how much cross inductance is possible? This gets back to amp-turns, no? There would be lots of amps but few turns in the “current path” of the lightning surge, so inductance to the lamps could be less than expected. The big support cable should heat up noticeably however. That in itself is worrisome, since this bridge is a senior citizen. It would be instructive to know if the lights experienced a strong surge in brightness… and how many, if any, failed. Most lighting of this kind in this area is sodium vapor – which can withstand massive surges, since there is no filament at all. San Francisco is one of those so-called “liberal” localities - where public “light pollution” is a real issue overriding lowest cost- and sodium lamps are favored for this – but I do not know for a fact that these are of that type (however they do look to be “sodium yellow” in the image) J.
