Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi appears to be busy for the foreseeable future.

2011-11-10 Thread Mary Yugo
Is this credible to anyone?  If so, why and how?

Rossi can't rely on anyone else at all to help make the wondrous
machines?   If he's afraid of reverse engineering, he'd better not sell any
at all!  How does he know what his customers will do with them?   Or maybe
he's relying on that self-destruct mechanism he once claimed?  How would
that work?  Couldn't any capable modern high tech shop get past it?
Certainly government labs could.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Sean True sean.t...@gmail.com wrote
[quoting Rossi]:


 So far we are manufacturing 1 MW plants, and our next 2 years capacity
 of production has been already saturated. For the small units we need
 at least 1-2 years for the approvals.



Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi appears to be busy for the foreseeable future.

2011-11-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is this credible to anyone?  If so, why and how?

Welcome to Vortex, MY!

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Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi appears to be busy for the foreseeable future.

2011-11-10 Thread Mary Yugo
 Welcome to Vortex, MY!



Thank you.


Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi appears to be busy for the foreseeable future.

2011-11-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:


 Rossi can't rely on anyone else at all to help make the wondrous
 machines?   If he's afraid of reverse engineering, he'd better not sell any
 at all!  How does he know what his customers will do with them?


I believe he thinks it is easy to keep track of a few large customers
rather than many small ones. Also it is true that he cannot get a license
for kilowatt scale home units for several years.



Or maybe he's relying on that self-destruct mechanism he once claimed?
 How would that work?


I doubt that mechanism exists. I do not think anyone knows how it would
work.

Any cold fusion cathode work harder will self-destruct to some extent
merely by being exposed to air, and especially to carbon. I would open the
cell in a glovebox in nitrogen. Actually, I might open it the first time by
remote control.



   Couldn't any capable modern high tech shop get past it?  Certainly
 government labs could.


If there is a mechanism, I expect it could be overcome. As I remarked here
a few days ago, if you buy a reactor with 100 cells in it, you might
trigger the self-destruct mechanism in the first two or three cells you
open, but after that it is likely you will find a way to open a cell
without damaging it. You could then reverse engineer it. Ed Storms and
others think that merely examining the powder in detail might not yield
enough information to reverse engineer it. You would still not know how to
fabricate the stuff. Perhaps that is true, but I'm sure that knowing the
exact formula and the characteristics of the powder, such as particle size,
would be a great help.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Mr. Rossi appears to be busy for the foreseeable future.

2011-11-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote:

Any cold fusion cathode work harder will self-destruct to some extent
 merely by being exposed to air . . .


That was supposed to say, any cold fusion cathode or powder will
self-destruct . . .

They all self-destruct over time from internal contamination. The powder
stops working because the particles stick together, reducing surface area,
and because the surface becomes contaminated.

- Jed